EDIT: People asking how frequency/timings would scale on a CPU side, you can watch this video I made some months ago: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eJt7a7WYktWop4k.html Get your V-Color RAM Kits here: v-color.net/ And here we are again! This time testing Several RAM Frequencies with the Ryzen 7 8700G IGPU (Radeon 780M) to see how much performance we can get out of this APU :D
@meltinsr5 ай бұрын
I think new driver update have some performance drop on 7900xtx ?
@unlimitedslash5 ай бұрын
Btw, could we see how the 780M fares with Elden Ring and Monster Hunter World?
@Tripnode015 ай бұрын
if you can pump water through it i dont put it in my rig lol
@Splarkszter4 ай бұрын
I like SARfield. Good game ;D
@RobloxianX3 ай бұрын
I'm beginning to wonder how DDR5 at 8600 MT/s will preform with this iGPU, I think that's the fastest yet. But I'm not sure. There may be some 8800 MT/s models out there
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat5 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I wanted youtubers to test out. Desktop allows to achieve full speed of these APUs due to faster memories, but no one was using more than DDR5 6400 and then were disappointed that these end up slower than a budget GPU.
@Splarkszter4 ай бұрын
Yeah. The reason is that we don't get past that because of the 1:1 ratio. I agree visibility of this improvement should be done.
@moundercesar31025 ай бұрын
A quality of work that rivals Hardware Unboxed, you are proving the quality of your chanel, and it should be on par with other big youtube chanels, keep up the good work 👍
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words!
@ObakuZenCenter5 ай бұрын
Frankly I think this channel leaves the one mentioned in the dust in some respects.
@Rexolaboy5 ай бұрын
Bravo Fabio, not even Gamers Nexus or Hardware Unboxed care to dive into APU performance like you have. This video needs to be spread everywhere.
@edgartheface5 ай бұрын
24 is the year, 3 is the month! 😎
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
hehehehe
@Kavan_Mane5 ай бұрын
1 is the revision.... We meet once again my friend
@edgartheface5 ай бұрын
@@Kavan_Maneuntil it becomes a meme by itself!
@heinzletzte.63855 ай бұрын
Thank you, these are the numbers everyone is interested in but no one but you was willing to put the work in.
@theredpineapple94855 ай бұрын
Love the memes at the start of your videos. Great info as always Fabio.
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Thank you
@johnscaramis25154 ай бұрын
Just one note: 6000 CL38 might sound like the same latency as 8000 CL38, but it isn't. The CL is linked to the clock, basically the number of cycles it takes to get access. These CL values are more or less meaningless for themselves, it would be better to compare the actual latencies in nanoseconds. For some who might be confused a simple example: 4000 CL40 has the same latency in ns as 8000 CL80 The 6000 CL38 has a CAS latency of 12.67ns, whereas the 8000 CL38 has a CL of 9.5ns
@laynemccormic91022 ай бұрын
thank you bro this is so important for apus and no one else is doing it
@jannegrey5935 ай бұрын
I know you know this, but for folks who might not - DDR5 6000, 6400, 7200, 7600 and 8000 is in MegaTransfers per second (MT/s). People often use MHz here, because indeed it is directly tied to frequency, but if you go into BIOS and after applying DDR5 6000 profile you see that your RAM goes "only" to 3000 MHz - Don't Panic! That is how it's supposed to be. Real frequency of DDR is always exactly half of the number of MT/s. Because DDR means "Double Data Rate" - it means that operation (read, write, many other more complex stuff) can happen twice for every "frequency tick". It is important to know that, because timings will often be displayed in such a way (though BIOS-es have differences and they make mistakes as well) that it will be tied to number of "cycles" that are required to wait until next operation can be done. And when you count nanoseconds of latency, you need to know "frequency" not "MT/s". That might be the reason why sometimes calculations are off by 2, 8 or 16 times. You might have forgotten to divide by 2 for frequency or divide/multiply by 8 to go from bytes to bits and vice versa, or both.
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Yes indeed, even in this video I state that for some seconds haha
@jannegrey5935 ай бұрын
@@AncientGameplays I mean, it's not a big thing, but if someone tries to calculate latencies this comes up the most. Though also some BIOS-es show number of MT/s as "MHz". Pretty much everyone, expert or not make this mistake - I catch myself doing it regularly and in most cases it doesn't matter. Except for people freaking out in CPU-Z 😉or as I said those that calculate latencies.
@IPowder41055 ай бұрын
I've been looking for this exact benchmark and i found it nowhere Its amazing that you make these really informative videos
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!
@MirelRC5 ай бұрын
Nice video. I hope the next APUs will feature some kind of game cache.
@RobloxianX3 ай бұрын
thank you! Ive always wanted to make a mini itx gpu-less PC. This helped alot when I bought my RAM
@Adaminkton5 ай бұрын
This shows why GPD devices with their 7500MHz ram beat other handhelds with the same APU.
@Bolo_NZ5 ай бұрын
The best benchmarks and tech reviews! The quality data, the humor, voice and accent just...chefs kiss 😍🤩
@rolandohiebert21445 ай бұрын
Very interesting, thanks for making these niche videos.
@Splarkszter4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this incredibly amazing info. Now i won't sleep searching how to overclock RAM to the max.
@AncientGameplays4 ай бұрын
Hahahaha, thank you for watching
@leoariasyt5 ай бұрын
A man of his word. Obrigado, Fabio 👍🏽
@saminavy71245 ай бұрын
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Good
@catsdofunnythings4046Ай бұрын
Exactly what I searched for that’s worth a subscribe
@ghostlyinterceptor775612 күн бұрын
the APU physical limits is at 8600-8800mhz with 2200FCLK(cant run stable at 2400 if high mem clock)
@-Noble5 ай бұрын
Very nice video, love the effort and digging in to it, especially with the tweaked timings I'd love to see a completely stock 8700g vs highest tuned memory + oc'd 8700g chip as well, to see how much further you could boost performance if they would allow this amount of tweaking in handhelds or laptops, it would be crazy
@DiegoooTech5 ай бұрын
This iGpu is monster especially with 8000mhz tweaked. Good job there.
@techwizard96995 ай бұрын
It pleases me so much to see how far iGPU's have come. Gets me really excited for the future of handhelds.
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
indeed
@andersjjensen5 ай бұрын
Probably by the end of the year we will see AMD's "Strix Halo" architecture which has a 256 bit (instead of 128 bit) memory interface. It is LP-DDR5x only, so no desktop variant, even a cut down version, is possible. So we should see about double this performance in handhelds soon enough.
@sparklingion5 ай бұрын
all those heavy gpus you have gotten recently and been messing/moving around seems to have made you more muscular 💪
@tacoterito224 ай бұрын
Excelent video Rma its the most important thing on cpu demanding games! What motherboard did you use?
@arky90025 ай бұрын
Now a maxed out oc on air on the gpu with this tweaked memory vs a 1650/super would be pretty fascinating!
@unlimitedslash5 ай бұрын
Thank you for doing the tests everyone should be doing with these iGPU's. Honestly i would like to have a few hundred euros to spare just to build a PC with a 780M just to see how far i could push it.
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
I feel you
@Atilolzz5 ай бұрын
Amazing Benchmarks!
@andersjjensen5 ай бұрын
Thanks Fabio! I just bought a laptop with a Ryzen 7840U (which has 780M) on LP-DDR5x 6400Mhz, and was wondering how much I "lost" by not choosing another (much more expensive) vendor for a similar product with 7500MHz. This video gave me the overview I has been looking for.
@c4nchi5 ай бұрын
You can't tweak memory in most of the laptops available just a few of them support memory tweak.
@andersjjensen5 ай бұрын
@@c4nchi I'm perfectly aware. But I was still kinda curious about how much I was leaving on the table by going with 6400 instead of 7500.
@kompassorpigo760013 күн бұрын
@@c4nchi I thought you can do it in all of them through smokeless.
@jggg315 ай бұрын
Be nice to see this same test using the 7800X3D CPU 🤔
@MS2xP5 ай бұрын
Belo video Fábio, quando vai sair comparativo do novo driver 24.3.1 ~ 24.2.xx ?
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Em principio amanhã!
@RAHULACHARY5 ай бұрын
iGPUs are always bottlenecked by RAM speed
@timmyjohns2225 ай бұрын
Not really!
@LegionGamingTV5 ай бұрын
Hey brother, I just wanted to let you know, that you can manually get your FCLK and UCLK up to 2400mhz with this chip without decoupling the frequencies. I was able to get mine to 2400 FCLK for 7200mhz, and 2467 for 7400mhz. I haven't seen anyone try this on KZfaq. I was able to do this on a B650m MSI mortar wifi nothing special. I used 1.4v for ram. I use this chip with my 4070, and haven't tried the APU yet but without being decoupled it should give even more performance. If you have time it would be cool to see if there is any benefit to raising your FCLK that high. Love the channel!!!
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Both fclk and uclk were at 2200MHz 💪
@chovekb4 ай бұрын
Yes Hynix chips OCd and tuned at 7200-7400 is the optimal for 8000G APUs, not 6400, not even 8000, cause many games like the lower latency, so generally 7200 tuned is the best for these APUs :)
@makerspersona545621 күн бұрын
@@chovekbcan you post some more info on the 7200 setup? What’s your build and settings? Stable?
@ObakuZenCenter5 ай бұрын
@AncientGameplays, Fabio, I'm sure you have this already lined up but, just in case you don't yet, can you please do an episode on the new drivers - 24.3.1? In particular I'm sure many will be interested in the supposed unlock of overclocking for the memory on the 7900 GRE. I've found this to be disappointing personally, since I can only reach around 2376, about a 60 Hz increase on the memory clock. Beyond that they don't seem to be stable at all. I'm wondering if AMD will release updated drivers in the future that address this? Anyway, just a suggestion. Keep up the excellent work you're doing and thank you.
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Will get it released tomorrow 💪💪
@ObakuZenCenter5 ай бұрын
@@AncientGameplays As we say in the UK, you are a scholar and a gentleman Sir. Much appreciated. 😊 As a side note here, I help with a medium sized channel, about 27, 000 subscribers, which is done by my lovely wife and it would be great, when you have some time, if you could come on her show and chat a bit about your enjoyment of computers and technology. I think you'd be a great guest. Valeu por tudo, Fabio.
@GraveUypo5 ай бұрын
6400 to 7200 is just a 12% clock increase. i'd say a 6% uplift from just memory clocks seems fair for that amount of extra clock
@TopNotchPanch5 ай бұрын
I think this is a big reason we see less low end ~$200 cards in development because iGPUs will handle that part of the market vs a 1650-4050 now and in the near future
@UmmerFarooq-wx4yo5 ай бұрын
Still for those running older cpu and systems, they still might want that rtx 5050 or rx 7400 or rx 8400
@TopNotchPanch5 ай бұрын
@@UmmerFarooq-wx4yo at what point would these same people begin to be held back by a cpu bottleneck and have to upgrade anyway ? A “5050” would be knocking on a 2080’s door power wise so you are most likely going to bottleneck. Also we’re starting to see these new low tier cards use less and less pcie lanes so these cards would restricted with older cpu/motherboards anyway. At that point the used market is a better solution than a new low end card
@UmmerFarooq-wx4yo5 ай бұрын
@@TopNotchPanch that 3770k gave a 12400k a run for its money.
@TopNotchPanch5 ай бұрын
@@UmmerFarooq-wx4yo I seriously doubt that even if they both used pcie gen 3x16 cards
@Silent-19835 ай бұрын
Thank You! 🤩
@kaczan32 ай бұрын
Of all the Fabios I know, you look the most Fabio.
@AncientGameplays2 ай бұрын
Hahahaha
@Tantakugames5 ай бұрын
kinda crazy when you think about how much faster and more stable ddr5 is going to get before this platform is dead, we're gonna have 8700gs going BRRRRRRRRRRR
@qunlin76745 ай бұрын
This is incredible.
@hababacon5 ай бұрын
I'm looking at DDR 7200, CL34 for my Ryzen Zen 5 build. I won't use IGP, but 7200 DDR 5 gives you a nice mix between high bandwidth and latency at CL34.
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
You'll have to decouple the UCLK which isn't really that great in terms of CPU performance only. Just get a 6400MHz kit and tweak it
@zodwraith57455 ай бұрын
It's well documented that decoupling your CPU clock and memory clock leads to _decreased_ performance, not improved performance. It may be beneficial in this niche case that's memory starved, but will hurt overall performance everywhere else. Memory speed matters, but it's also important to be in sync with the CPU's memory controller, and we still have no idea if Zen5 will come with an improved memory controller that doesn't slam into a brick wall at 6000mt/s.
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat5 ай бұрын
Please make a DDR5 8000 tweaked + 8700G vs other budget GPUs like 6500XT, 3050 6gb , A380.
@christophermullins71635 ай бұрын
It would only make sense to compare it to pcie powered GPUs only imo.
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
You can see this one: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o5d3ddJpsJixiWQ.html
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat5 ай бұрын
@@AncientGameplays true but in this video you probably didn't use tweaked memory, did you ?
@christophermullins71635 ай бұрын
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat absolutely sir. Fabio did not include what the ram configuration was(that I remember?) for that video. You could open both videos side by side and compare results on game to game and see the % difference and assume that vs the rx 580 etc and give you an idea. Report back what ram configuration you think that the "vs rx 580" video was using. It'll be a lil game for you. 😜
@DragonOfTheMortalKombat5 ай бұрын
@@christophermullins7163 before making a fool of yourself, did you go and watch the video ? In the RX 580 vs 780M ddr5 6000 cl 36 was used. I am talking about ddr5 8000 with manually tuned memory timings. I never said that he didn't mention what memory was used. Lmao, you think you I wouldn't bother verifying kid 🤪
@yusufhatake13775 ай бұрын
0:30 Linus is Proud man 😂😂💯🤝
@kerotomas15 ай бұрын
Honestly for Integrated every single FPS matters when your performance is already pretty poor. For example 48 vs 58 fps in Spider Man is a huge difference going from laggy to almost smooth gameplay. Now obviously buying hella expensive 8000mhz kits wouldn't make sense but there is a GSKill Neo 6400/CL32 which is Hynix A-die and it can be manually pushed out to 8000. (My Corsair Dominator Titanium 6400/cl32 is A-die though but more expensive than the G.Skill kit and it's also way easier to find A-die Gskill kits as the part number on the back of the ram stick ends with the chip type.) Great video though.
@DS-pk4eh5 ай бұрын
Thank you. Great video. I thought 5600 was standard DDR5 speed for AM5. I imagine uplift from that is even better, you get like 20-25% better result. I have only miniPC with 7840HS that can not be really tweaked (BIOS version shows 0.01 ?!! )
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Noone should be getting 5600MHz nowadays I believe
@DS-pk4eh5 ай бұрын
@@AncientGameplays Too late 🙈
@PineyJustice5 ай бұрын
@@DS-pk4eh no, 6000 has been the standard since launch, I don't think 5600 was ever the recommended speed.
@gapast36695 ай бұрын
good to know, thanks!
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Thank you as well for always supporting the channel!
@hoffyc.h3935 ай бұрын
I have the Ryzen 7 5700g CPU at 1.32V 4.5Ghz all cores i think :D paired with 6700XT tho. And actually its Good and very effectively with low voltage in big loads :) so the Ryzen 7 8700g must be a Beast.
@mauriciob82605 ай бұрын
You're my only channel I choose my decision when buy AMD Product , one more thing 🤔 if this is the same Radeon chip Apu that is present on the mini pc like the MINISFORUM Mini PC UM780 XTX AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS,8C/16T, DDR5 ?
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
I do believe the 7840HS has a 780M yes
@neuplop5 ай бұрын
Be careful, the "Tweaked" versions are not the same for everyone, if you buy a cheaper kit at lower frequencies you won't be able to tweak it as much. Still stands that you'll match or be better than more expensive without tweaking but something to take in mind.
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
any hynix kit can do these timings. Just saying
@AdalbertSchneider_5 ай бұрын
not even 5 minutes watched and....... ABSOLUTORIUM !!! 👍👍😎😎
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
haha, thanks!
@oxilon98725 ай бұрын
I bought this APU Ryzen 7 8700G and I'll use just the iGPU Radeon 780M + 32GB of RAM 2x16GB at 7200Mhz because of, the motherboard Asrock A620I Lightning WIFI support (7200mhz maximum frequency) the case is a InWin Chopin MAX :)
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Nice
@ThatDeadGuy5 ай бұрын
10:35 I'd never thought to play League on my fridge.
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
😂😂🤌
@branislavcupurdija597128 күн бұрын
Hello , excellent video , the reason I went with 8700G and 6000mhz , 30CL Expo from Kingston.I set up only Expo profile , I am satisfied with results but I would like to optimize the timings as you did.I am a bit of noob for this but I cannot find how to set/optimize DRAM timings and all other configuration? Is there a separate video for this?Thanks in advance :)
@ricardo_Abonado5 ай бұрын
Great job
@pranze34845 ай бұрын
So 32GB 7200 C34 for 140€ was pretty good value by the looks of it. Haven't tried to OC it.
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Indeed it was
@towinrei5 ай бұрын
It's so funny to me how Fabio makes videos on FSR 3.1 and the new iGPUs and AMD is just like "oh yeah let's drop a new driver update" LOL
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
I know right? Let me sleep haha
@towinrei5 ай бұрын
@@AncientGameplays Exactly haha
@nicoyt94815 ай бұрын
Why did you do that ? Why choose unrealistic timings ? Nobody runs 6000@cl38. Why not start with conventional timings, 5600cl36 / 6000cl30 / 6400cl36 ?
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
I explained that in the beginning, but when you skip parts you come to the comment section clueless...
@DeepteshLovesTECH5 ай бұрын
780m is great, but not great enough. It doesn't even have L3 cache like an RX6400 and only has 2MB L2 cache. I don't think the best iGPU will beat the lowest dGPU of same generation.
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
true, I do believe though that in some scenarios the 780M equals the 6400
@andersjjensen5 ай бұрын
Obviously. The problem with iGPUs always is, and always will be, that they share memory bandwidth with the CPU. On a 128bit bus. The 780M is RDNA3 and roughly on par with an RX 470 at default LP-DDR5x 6400 spec. The lowest RNDA3 dGPU is the RX 7600 which is about 2.6x faster.
@cloud36975 ай бұрын
I expected some new info about how to tweak the memory but if it's the same method from previous video then my latency will stay around 60( Well anyway great video❤
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Yeah, tweaking is basically the same, but higher frequency or more agressive timings
@patrickjames33215 ай бұрын
Do you have a video to tweak the ram? I have 6000 MHz CL30 and I wouldn’t mind tweaking a bit, I play at 1440p and not all games would benefit but it is fun to try and get some more fps in some games, I have a 7950x and 7900 xtx, I use no upscaling, all native
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
It is shown in this video :D
@JohnBraman41314 күн бұрын
you have a video showing how to tweak the timing?
@AncientGameplays14 күн бұрын
I do
@Alexruja32275 ай бұрын
Is it possible to see such an uplift, or at least close to it, with a Ryzen 7600 or not? I have 32 gb DDR5 6400mhz. Thank you!
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Nah, this is only iGPU sided, watch this one though: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eJt7a7WYktWop4k.html
@Alexruja32275 ай бұрын
@@AncientGameplays I have already seen it but thank you very much!
@ygsm13374 ай бұрын
Hi, just a thought. What if you ran the same exact test, but add in a dedicated GPU. Would the higher freq tweaked memory scale the same? At 1080p of course to test the CPU limit. Sounds like a good test to do since this CPU is seen as "buy this system now and save for a dGPU later" kind of system. Hope you see this, great video nonetheless 👌
@kompassorpigo760013 күн бұрын
Can the "tweaking" be done on 7840 laptops?
@AncientGameplays13 күн бұрын
if the bios lets you change timings yes
@fracturedlife13935 ай бұрын
Fighting the urge to get one of these just for memOC shenanigans
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
haha, these are indeed great
@heinzletzte.63855 ай бұрын
The 7500f has been around for some time, should be the same die.
@atirta7775 ай бұрын
@@heinzletzte.6385 Memory OC is significantly different despite both being Zen 4.
@heinzletzte.63855 ай бұрын
@@atirta777 whats the difference? binning?
@atirta7775 ай бұрын
@@heinzletzte.6385 Even if the architecture is Zen 4 on both, the whole die design is different. Ryzen 7000 is chiplet, while 8000 is monolithic which means the mem controller and infinity fabric also work very differently. 8000 series design is also meant to support faster lpddr5 for low power devices so that could also help stability at higher frequencies. People are pushing these new chips up to 10000MT/s, while Ryzen 7000 is still stuck at 8000MT/s
@martinkabina3 ай бұрын
Hello, what settings was used for 8000MHz tweaked? Hardware used was AM4/DDR4 or AM5/DDR5? Thanks
@grtitann74255 ай бұрын
Fabio is back from the dark side and he brought cats😎
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
😂😂
@ad3hpt636Ай бұрын
I’m looking at the ram kit you said to get and there are a lot of reviews of people saying that are unstable
@AncientGameplaysАй бұрын
Nah, that was in the very early days and from people that know absolutely nothing about what they're doing. Happens a lot sadly
@Meyus_5 ай бұрын
10:34 did you say "my fridge was able to run.."? Or what did you say there?
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Exactly what I said haha
@Meyus_5 ай бұрын
@@AncientGameplays Wait so are you playing this on a smart fridge with a Ryzen 7 8700G, why would a smart fridge have that? Or was that a joke I didn't get hehe
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Of course that was a joke haha@@Meyus_
@BoraHorzaGobuchul2 ай бұрын
Problem is, I suspect that having a dgpu is still more value for money since high high speed ddr5 is gotta be pretty expensive. And getting amd to work with high-speed ram is not an easy task, closer to rocket science with a bit of lottery depending on which chips are in your ram.
@michaellingard578927 күн бұрын
Do you have a guide for tweaking timing on RAM by chance?
@AJ-po6up5 ай бұрын
Can you link me the video for tweaking the RAM please? 😅
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r6qZrJVhyLqVfWw.html
@AJ-po6up5 ай бұрын
@@AncientGameplays Awesome! Thank you!
@2losersinbasement5 ай бұрын
I won one of these from Linus Tech Tips! To bad I don't need integrated graphics and I'm on AM4 lol. Going to sell it and upgrade my graphics card
@sharky90565 ай бұрын
can you show how to get 8000mhz and how stable it is on your computer?
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Basically i just enable xmp and raised ram voltage. Done. 100% stable
@sharky90565 ай бұрын
100% stable is an extremly huge claim with just enabling xmp when most of the time 8000hz needs tweaks, good voltage, fans on ram, cpu lottery and high end motherboard. What is your testing methodology for stable ram? My bet is that you would get errors in 1 minute in karhu ram testing. Running high speed unstable ram just for benchmarks is not genuine since instabilities might ruin some peoples PCs..
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
@@sharky9056 my testing is these games tested, TM5 running for 5 hours without a single error and running these games smoothly. Ram voltage 1.4v, soc at 1.3v. Done
@sharky90565 ай бұрын
Games are not a good test for ram and TM5 ram test is laughable even on the hardest custom presets... only pi and karhu are good test for exposing errors. Reddit post in ram community incoming with your claims.
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
My friend Karhu sucks (sorry). Used it for several months and had a ram instability in the past due to trusting that same software, the minute I started TM5 with the 1usmus profile I had an issue in the first seconds. Everything I testing with TM5 in the last years, all my systems, are rock stable, so don't come to me telling me that Karhu is better than TM5 and that "games don't stress anything" on the RAM side. I've been there on the same boat as you and I know for a fact that's not true@@sharky9056
@Botta9285 ай бұрын
hi Fabio, I know it's off-topic, but I have a RX7800XT paired with a R5 5600X, as I am playing at FHD I noticed I am CPU bottlenecked, especcialy in some games like helldivers 2, do you reccomend me to go for the R7 5800X3D, or should I wait until the Ryzen 9000 series? Side note: I found a nice kit of ddr5 2x16gb at 7800mhz cl36, would it be a great pair with the am5 platform? or should I stick with 6000mhz and tight timings? (the difference in price is 10 euros)
@torradasuprema3955 ай бұрын
You should get a 1440p monitor
@Botta9285 ай бұрын
@@torradasuprema395 i don't wanna play 2k 100fps, i prefer fhd 150fps
@FelipeThePIlot5 ай бұрын
Can you film a video about micro stuttering? High fps but not smooth etc.? For AMD
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
I talk about that a bit in my 20 tips video
@Cake_johnso5 ай бұрын
6:53 i love sarfield 👍funny typo sounds like garfield
@woIfmann5 ай бұрын
Upgrading from a rx 6600 should i get a rx 7900 gre or a rtx 4070 super? what do you recommend please!
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Same price?
@woIfmann5 ай бұрын
@@AncientGameplays 100€ price gap
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
@@woIfmann 4070s more expensive? What about models?
@woIfmann5 ай бұрын
@@AncientGameplays yes! 4070 super is more expensive; the model is Msi rtx 4070 super gaming x, as for the Rx 7900 gre its the xfx rx 7900 gre qick 319 bulk edition
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
I would get nothing more than the GRE Pulse/Pure or Nitro+ if I were you, or that Gaming X then@@woIfmann
@R3TR0J4N5 ай бұрын
crazy numbers
@eugenjeannine5 ай бұрын
Love from Germany
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@iikatinggangsengii247118 күн бұрын
quite damn though going default 6000mhz to 8000 + optimizing, more than 50% increase, abt same as gtx1650 probably, which is awesome, w less power than 1650 system
@dra6o0n5 ай бұрын
Dragon Dogma 2 in 4 hours, so people are going to be really testing that game out to see what exactly really messes up the CPU usage... But I think their game engine is the issue, basically can't handle the heavy workload they ambitiously put on it.
@jinmail32945 ай бұрын
V-COLOR - I've never heard of the name, so researched about it. It's a Taiwanese company! Yay, not from China^^ I know some people want to avoid political theme, but since China is escalating aggression against Japan and Taiwan since over 10 years and I'm from Japan.
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
V color has its base in taipei yes
@jinmail32945 ай бұрын
@@AncientGameplays While washing my face yesterday morning I thought to myself, "What if 8700G is paired with faster RAM? WTF! Fabio uploaded a video right now!!?" Sometimes I think you have telepathic abilities^^ You are all the time my most favourite KZfaqr along with Marques Brownlee!
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, maybe I do and I just don't know about it haha@@jinmail3294
@Sheerwinter4 ай бұрын
:| i have a 10100f+gt1030+8gb ddr4 2999... So i ll probably wait for the upcoming apu, which to have strix point igpu. 😅 I am not a laptop guy so, I'm not talking about the 8850hs. I'm talking about the 9700g (speculation) :| i know it's going to take around 2 years for the 9700g to hit the market. Pray for the upcoming glory 😑🙏🐣 (780m is not so good) Also: rdna 3.5 is actually a refresh of rdna 3. We may be able to see a refreshed processors like 8750g (😑🙏 praying for it to come out asap.) 😑🙏 Praying for the upcoming strix halo as well (which has 40cu igpu) Please be cheaper (and be a desktop gpu... Not the laptop) 😑🙏 guys pray.
@ranjangupta87965 ай бұрын
When are you going to test new drivers 24.3.1 ?
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Today will release the video
@claytonroyston48465 ай бұрын
It still doesn't justify the price to performance ratio get zen 3 5700 x with rx 6600 and price to performance beat it
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
vy that order you can get the 8600G that isn't that much slower for €220
@BigMan7o05 ай бұрын
I know this is an apu so its a little different, but i recently had someone argue with me that ryzen doesnt care about ram above like 6000 on ddr5 or 3200 on ddr4, and they even said timings didnt really matter. I wish i couldve pointed them at this video, it felt like trying to teach a brick wall to be a gymnast 😂
@andersjjensen5 ай бұрын
For purely CPU related tasks the sentence has some merit.... for X3D CPUs. Vanilla Zen 4 does benefit a decent amount from tighter timings and higher frequencies. Hardware Unboxed has documented this to hell and back again by now.
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
I have another ddr5 for cpu side with the 7700x
@olekristianrannekleiv7625 ай бұрын
Does higer ram speed increase the APU's temperature?
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Not really, not unless the FPS difference is so big that the CPU needs to work way more and temps would raise, but generally no difference
@UmmerFarooq-wx4yo5 ай бұрын
Is that ps5 xbox level of performance with 8000mhz?
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Nah, not even close
@srknbyz5 ай бұрын
still waiting for strix point halo (codename sarlak) apu. dunno if it's mobile only or not but 40cu apu sounds crazy af. i hope it comes to desktop too
@zodwraith57455 ай бұрын
I'm interested in this as well as Lunar Lake. It will be interesting to see how they overcome memory bandwidth issues on such powerful iGPUs. I'd assume they almost HAVE to park some GDDR6 right next to it to fully utilize that many CUs. AFAIK these are only intended for laptops so they have a little more leeway in dictating the motherboard setup. Putting these into a desktop socket would absolutely bottleneck the iGPU _hard_ on memory bandwidth.
@TrueThanny5 ай бұрын
You're using MHz incorrectly. DDR5-6000 has a clock speed of 3000MHz.
@arx1174 ай бұрын
You making a mistake Dual channel RAM make it speed 3000Mhz. If it single channel, it will be 6000mhz
@TrueThanny4 ай бұрын
@@arx117 That is not at all how it works, in any way whatsoever.
@johnscaramis25154 ай бұрын
@@arx117 What does dual channel have to do with RAM speed? Exactly, nothing. DDR5-6000 has 6000 MT/s @3000MHz, due to double data rate (as the name suggests) Dual channel simply means that you have two independent RAM channels.
@yissnakklives88665 ай бұрын
This makes me jealous...my Ryzen 6800HX and 7940HS can't use such a fast memory kit (even if they had it in SODIMM) :(
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Tweak the timings if possible
@yissnakklives88665 ай бұрын
@@AncientGameplays this is why you should get one of these mini pc's 😃- so you can light the path forward! (the bios n these are odd and limited. i was able to convince my 690s to run the memory at 5200MTeven though they (and AMD) say its only rated for 4800mt - the memory is that crucial variable speed memory 😁
@karlos10605 ай бұрын
I bought for a friend a Ryzen 5 8500g or 8600g with a cheap 620 mobo, 32gb of ddr5 1tb ssd and a new corsair case. Works good. But there is one big glitch. When it fals into hibernation the only way to get out of sleep state is to press the powerbutton. Latest bios version is on. Keyboard and mouse don't react. And since he placed his pc in a cabinet it is very irritating to have this. I hope a future bios update or driver update will solve this issue. It works besides that good and fast. But why something like this again? I really don't get it. AMD and drivers...
@BlaineST5 ай бұрын
You have to update the chipset driver. That should solve the problem. It is a known issue with the previous chipset drivers.
@karlos10605 ай бұрын
@@BlaineST At the time of using it there was no other chipset driver then the one aviable for this new one. I will tell him that. But it is like this always with AMD. Releasing not finished products...nothing new...but thanks for the reply. That helps!
@SirRoundPotato5 ай бұрын
I'm waiting for 8800xt. And the benchmarks better feature Warhammer 3! 👿🔪
@robertthompson72425 ай бұрын
Linus the Poltergeist !!
@ghostlyinterceptor77562 ай бұрын
check the 7900xtx taichi u will love it has overbuild VRM's
@ElvinJames-qv6qi5 ай бұрын
You can play CS2 144HZ with a IGPU(6400MHz).This is insane
@AncientGameplays5 ай бұрын
Indeed
@ZeusEternal41125 ай бұрын
Curious if it's cheaper to build a 8600g build or 7500f with maybe a 5700 xt?
@nguyenthuan839319 күн бұрын
PSU problem and 5700xt is old
@blosberg5 ай бұрын
Could u not jsut buy the really expensive one and tweek it so it gets really good? like 8000 and bether timings?