Lol modeling consciousness. Seems epic mythological and mysterious stories like RBW (Evangelion, Star Wars, Matrix, Blade Runner etc) are always and specifically heavily alluding to exploring that mysterious "thing" we actually are beyond the vessel you see in the mirror. That thing that is generated by the signals eternally snaking through our electrified central nervous system that we so humbly generalize as consciousness. Stories, including the aforementioned Bible with its creation account and even beyond that to the origins of the monomyth structure first discovered by our ancient ancestors within themselves at the dawn of self-awareness, attempt to model how consciousness is organized, how the various discreet entities/functions interact with each other, and with it's still mysterious origin within homonids always portrayed rather fantastic, dramatic, and divine, but of course still using the current "cutting edge" knowledge of the world of the time a potential model (story) is produced. Animal spirits to the starry night to gods and monsters to sci fi and conspiracy theories. At one time communing with animal spirits was cutting edge knowledge. You bet your bottom dollar you'd be pretty boss if you were the tribal consciousness translator. We definitely hold our current translators in high regard even if we don't realize what they're actually modeling or why we sort of "gravitate" (lol the potential fifth force?) towards or even downright worship Human Works (media, buildings, organization, research methods etc) that seem to earnestly explore and coherently model consciousness. My theorycraft is that at the foundation of RBW the name Sol is specifically used over the word Sun to be a direct reference to Soul (maybe even blatantly misunderstood by the in-universe humans) which is a theological reference to an aspect of Consciousness or a reference to Consciousness in total within a being. RBW is taking a crack at modeling consciousness in a way that so far is highly entertaining as well as thought provoking, my favorite kind of model (dry textbooks be damned). You got your right brain vs left brain (Jungian Ego vs Shadow) in the form of on the nose Atheists and Mithraics and you've the archetypal mother and father (Jungian Syzygy) and also the voice of "God" or that self-awareness function coded somewhere in the core of our DNA (Earth and the Jungian Self?) that subtly influences our individual (and perhaps collective???) actions mostly beyond are typically educated attention. I'm super curious to see if RBW starts to become more explicitly meta or more overtly on the nose with consciousness symbolizing the self-awareness function of consciousness that or if it'll stay firmly within allusion. Most stories still don't try to attempt translating the self-awareness function due to how easy it is to break the immersion of the story and shit all over everything that came before it gaining the wrath of fans (the collective self-awareness function? God, is that where we forgot you? Lol Damn that would mean any stories that attempt to fully model/replicate that function face some real tower of Babel style "no your place" wrath from the audience. Creepy) but attempts have been made like 2001's ending and Neon Genesis Evangelion two ending attempts which I think were mostly successful. I have hopes for RBW. High hopes? Perhaps... Edit: Forgot the interesting thing about RBW's concept of dark photons and its possible connection to consciousness as a classic cheeky sci fi pseudoscience for consciousness mechanics. Dark light (photons) is a general metaphor for the mental light that we more explicitly perceive in dreams and eyes closed hallucinations but is also very much the the invisible hand that paints our waking perception of "reality". The brain can't actually see but it processes the information gained from the sensors littered throughout the central nervous system and uses dark photons ("dark light") to paint an objective image. If true that's a pretty neat creative allusion. Last edit: Forgot the connection between dark photons, necro eyes, and hallucinations. Maybe you can guess where I'm slithering to. If dark photons refer to the "mental immaterial" that makes up consciousness then the eyes might contain a high concentration of RBW's "materialized" depiction of this substance. And if the eyes contain a high concentration of consciousness juice then it may cause a similar experience for in-universe characters to our hallucinogenic leaning substances. Altered States of Consciousness... Man them hippies may have been naively stumbling through something. Makes one wonder what a malicious person... Or people could do with the knowledge gained from researching consciousness... Huh well that's scary. Last last note: Time travel is a common allusion to the ability of our current consciousness to imagine both unknown past and unknown future and this dichotomy also can show up as two contrasting worlds or dimensions or, for RBW, times or even two different aspects of being (pre and post conception hinted by the spermy eggy planet core shot). I think that mirrored shot of the planet core is a hint at the time travel point or on a meta level the point where the imagined future flips to the imagined past for humanity. The potential cyclical nature of this in-universe Eden cycle process could also be an allusion to the fact that the imagined past and imagined future are not linear in relation to each other within consciousness but actually share the same source, the present moment. The most intuitive symbol is the infinity symbol but the ouroboros (sp?) and circle symbols also attempt to model this function of consciousness. Also a note on snakes. Poor creatures get so much instinctually disdain from us due to deeply rooted Ancestral Trauma but I wish they could understand how much our species elevates their qualities due to being fairly effcient symbols for functions of consciousness.

She also was cursed by Hera to eat the children of other mothers in her grief of her own loss.

@@SevenThunderful Yeah with season 2 showing hints of other necromancers I think we'll see this happen to Mother.

I think that is where the time travel happened, perhaps it is a metaphor to hint that they are going back to the “Beginning” to seed the planet with new life.

The Mithraic symbol itself looks like a star with wiggly radiating lines... or an egg fertilised over and over and...

@@mstandenberg1421 I noticed that too. There seems to be a lot of fertilisation symbolism in this show. Could be more clues that it is all related to the origin, or birth of humanity. Sort of a weird sci-fi creation myth. We have Adam and Eve + snake, the ark, religious wars. It is all very old testament, but futuristic. My own best guess is that Sol is an ancient super A.I that has been imprisoned inside the core of Kepler-22B and that when Mom, Pop and Sid the snake passed through the core, they were sent back a million years to spawn humanity and the Mythraic religion.

@@steviemartin1977 it looks to me like it may be a repeated co-evolution bootstrap story. Two races creating their own evolutionary existence by timeloop integration.

@@mstandenberg1421 I disagree, I think that it is making the birth of humanity a paradox. Remember Father's joke to Hunter, with the punchline that was a paradox? I think that was a clue. I think that mankind was birthed on Kepler-22b millions of years ago and then transplanted back to Earth. I also think that our timeline is a result of some future effort to erase Sol's influence from mankind's development. I predict that someone will use Mother and Father's story to construct a new mythology that will reshape humanity's development. I think the mysterious cloaked figure with the tarot cards is working to reshape history to erase Sol from our history.

Wow thanks Nestor!

Agreed! Well put! 👍🏻

@@OneTakeVids I really loved this show and had a few theories myself so went hunting for more. There are a lot of speculations about religion and evo/devolution but I particularly love your idea about the cyclic nature of Keplar. You're the only one to go into that territory and it makes the most sense because that would have a direct affect on the whole planet. Any thoughts as to why there are no other signs of animal life? Do you think Mouse will play a part considering there are no other animal species on the planet?

@Nestor Aamons some of it might just be that we’ve really only seen a small slice of the planet and most of our time has been spent in a desert area where life would be scarce to begin with. Sue reminded us of this a couple eps back when she told Paul they should go out and see more of the world. So my guess is that there is potentially more life out there but we just haven’t seen it yet. If it turns out most of the planet is lifeless, then it could be the result of damage done to the planet by humans that used to live there (similar to how it seems Earth is becoming unlivable in Raised by Wolves due to the global religious war).

@@OneTakeVids I see that too, especially if the cyclical theory is correct (which you make an amazing case for!)

I know right just like they canceled Dark Matter I’m still pissed about it

Blade runner and west World also about Androids with feelings

It’s not scifi!. The science is so far from actual science that it just doesn’t count

@@squattingheads yeh right, its a modern sci fi not strar trek

@@erixlast6020 modern "sci fi" ? whatever mental gymnastics, is still not science fiction mate; is great fiction though, with some "horror", blood gore and mystical ingredients.

Two things that make me thing father was being very literal: (1) they found an actual Neanderthal skull. If they were evolving into a lower form specifies for just environmental reasons, the odds that our evolution would look identical to early form humans is essentially zero.... (2) his first thought was that the creatures they had already seen on the planet were evolving... meaning they would’ve “evolved” in a matter of a few years or even less than that, so it would seem to me he’s discussing a bizarre phenomenon rather than a natural evolutionary process you’re describing which would take thousands of years. I could of course be wrong but I think it’s a valid read.

Exactly. And if it meant actual "devolution" then the creatures and hooded figure we'd see would look a lot more like our ancestors. Devolution in this case is not to be taken literally. I believe it's like you said, they're just less like humans. Wouldn't be surprised if the "Intelligence" helped them to devolve to something reptilian-like to create "man" in its own image.

Maybe they just had their environment changed to the extent that deevolution is like cellular entropy (?)

@@OneTakeVids really excellent points. I'm now a bit more open to the idea of "devolution." I think the neanderthal skull was a historical fossil, not "devolution" in action. Perhaps there were never humans on Kepler 22-b, but very advanced neanderthals. Once the advanced neanderthals ruined Kepler, neanderthal embryos were sent to earth, where they evolved into humans... not sure if this fits with father's statement that they evolved independently on both planets as I don't remember the words perfectly. Great reviews by the way!

Why do you guys think species don't devolve? There isn't any natural law forbidden it. Species will change in response to natural pressures. If a simpler body fits better in an environment then the species will adapt to survive that way.

In old religion, necromancy was a more generic term for dark magic, specifically communing with dead and dark spirits. I doubt it has any real symbolism other than being borderline dark magic.

As a Greek (The word _necromancer_ is Greek e.g. _Νεκρομάντης_ ) I can assure you're wrong. The actual meaning of the word in Greek is the oracle who learns the future from the souls of the dead. Make what you want out of it.

@USA ALLDAY EVERYDAY If you don't care why are you typing words? Get your nonesense somewhere else.

@USA ALLDAY EVERYDAY You are a fool.

@USA ALLDAY EVERYDAY are you serious, man?

Yes. As show by the cave paintings there could be some weird time loop going on already. Especially with ep10 being named The Beginning and having themes of Adam and Eve in paradise with a snake. My guess is that the theme is humans create AI that grows so powerful it turns into a god that starts becoming hateful to humans and tries to breed other life forms. So humans have to escape and start over - yet end up creating AI again

Wow thanks for the kind words Highwon!

Agreed. Most other videos are incoherent rambling in comparison.

We should also take care to specify that "de-evolution" isnt a thing. It's as you said; just a life form adapting to a different set of enviromental factors that will inevitably push it towards a evolutionary path that would bring out those features. Not trying to nitpick, I just keep running into quite a few people confused about what Father and Mother meant by "de-evolved" or w/e.

Any adverse environmental factor could cause "devolution." The notion that it can only go in one direction is obviously ludicrous.

@@jonothandoeser That is Particularly wrong. Human Beings live in the harshest desert, on the Ocean itself, atop mountains, and in the Arctic. We even live in Space. All without "devolving".

@@uncletiggermclaren7592 You don't understand the science and how LONG Evolution/Devolution takes. It doesn't happen in a thousand years or even even thousand years.

@@jonothandoeser In fact I understand it far better than YOU do. To "devolve" back to ape-men such as Australopithecus, which is implied in the show, there would need to be a long series of events, where evolution selected for those traits. It wouldn't be "devolving" it would simply be more EVOLUTION. There simply is not a possible pathway for this, as I PROVED, because humans no longer allow the environment to genetically select their off-spring. We live in deserts and cities and snow-fields and have done for thousands of years, and EVERYWHERE in those places the people are genetically homogeneous, one species,. So clearly we do not "devolve" from environmental pressure any more. And THIS is because of our tools, we alter the environment instead of being altered by it. If our tools were forcibly taken from us, if we were, with an intervention, altered so tools and thought and speech were removed from our makeup, this IS NOT DEVOLUTION, it is engineering, and the subjects, from the moment of the intervention, WOULD NOT BE HUMANS, they would be some sort of construct. Humans think, speak and use tools. And If it was done with genetic engineering, THAT WOULD NOT BE DEVOLUTION, it would be engineering, and the beings wouldn't have ever been human. You do gene-engineering on zygotes, on genes, and that IS NOT changing a being, just using the genetic material in an engineering project. You are an idiot, so you suspect other people are also. I am infinitely* more intelligent than you, just don't waste your time trying to lecture me, go do your chores instead. *for a finite value of "infinite"

Thanks for the kind words, really appreciate it!

I finally feel at one with this show.

Ha, that makes perfect sense 👌

Andy Andeeee I musta had a synap cuz it was my birthday lol

Big brain time I see

So the Catholics were right and Galileo was wrong? Sol is the center, not orbiting the planet :/

A planet is just a baby sun.

The creature was most Likely an android( same white "blood" and "muscle" composition) just like mother used to breed the serpents/snake like creatures. The mouth piece was probably to ensure the serpent to be born out of the mouth of the android like in mother.

So that snout was just a helmet, mother took it off and the thing inside was an android, but with human looking features. I think the Scripture with the encrypted blueprint for necromancers was sent to a lot of planets, and I'm assuming knowledge of keppler 22-b is a part of the encrypted data. I think that creature is another Necromancer style android which was brought to the planet by the intelligence, specifically for the purpose of breeding a serpent.

@@Someone-to5cd Definitely an android, when mother took off the helmet you can see the synthetic skull

@@hhd2415 I ment the head of one of the robed aliens had what looked like a long snout. I agree they probably seeded multiple worlds.

Thanks Matt! Pretty much fully agree with your thoughts and hopes for the show, and really appreciate the kind words as always!

I like your thinking. Further, perhaps Campion and Paul serve as analogues to Abel and Cain.

@@ParsonsPR215 Or romulus and remus, and maybe it's Paul who will, despite acting morally dubious in the episodes to come, will eventually found the new human civilisation because he has that rational edge being able to pass the tests like in the story.

Romulus and Remus.

@@mstandenberg1421 Thanks batman

@@ParsonsPR215 exactly what I was thinking

in all honesty...i hope not. i don't like time travel used to over complicate a story that is already quite dense.

Then why will campion made her and why did campion kissed her?

@The MacSo you tried so hard to sound smart that you forgot to think about what you were actually saying. Go ahead and reread your own comment and tell me how that makes sense to you

@The MacSo "no deduction makes time traveling not plausible" you tried a little too hard there buddy. So hard that you said the exact thing you were trying to disprove. Also, wormholes do have the potential for time travel. They're a connection point through space-time. Try learning about special relativity and maybe you'll get it lol

@@godlevelthreatgarou2418 I’m guessing he’s never heard of CERN, or any of the tests they’ve done to prove time travel is possible on different levels. They’ve proven it’s possible the only thing issue they’ve shown is you wouldn’t be able to control what point in time you go to. You can only go backwards and then you’re stuck there.

I wish they dont touch the time travel thing, time travel is very complicated and can lead to many plot holes and mindf**ks if not understood by writers enough. This was a masterpiece so far and I woudnt want this show to dilute into something forced

@@oddyseysensai ummm you can technically go forward In time by traveling fast enough according to relativity

yes nailed it!

Thanks floetic!

If it's her own future skull, it has a mask on which may be to hide her eyes. If that necromancer is her future fate and has her eyes still she may retrieve them or be given them back by Kaleb to fight snakes.... Mind boggling show regardless lol

Thanks Matty!

Thank you sir! Really appreciate the kind words!

The new dark photon serpent could very well be Sol incarnate now

Thanks J. Nolen! Really appreciate it!

This bugs me so much. We just have to assume for now the newly birthed serpent we saw was in an infant stage where it functions as a parasite, and goes through a change as it matures to adulthood where the sucker mouth forms into a jaw.

No it looks like the trap that Paul made which i believe he made from under jaws off the giant snake type skeletons...maybe🤔🤔

I'm almost certain it's related to Mother's scream and it will be able to use it too.

It's that "alien" movie thing, the host affects the dna of the alien being born. So it changes as the host changes too.

I assumed it was evolving itself through timeloops with its partner species, man. Of course versions of both ‘species’ will be different each time.

My mind definitely did not go there when I watched the ep... but after that interview, gotta admit it’s a possibility haha

I don't think they went through time but they were in inside the core for a very long time enough for the child actors to be adults now.

My god

Past or future ?

@Jo Key what about wormholes? Holes literally created by giant worms that allows faster passage. Is kepler where this term originally came from? Next season will tell...

Definitely. I think Sol is obsessed with destroying humanity or at the very least turning them into docile creatures. The new dark photon serpent will be his ultimate weapon and the rest of the show will be a battle of wills to survive

I think the core of Kepler22b is Sol and the "Intelligence" is the serpent/satan. They have been coexisting; warring, feeding off each other, since Adam and Eve where cast out of "the garden" and sent to Earth. Mother and Father, passing through the core, landing in the tropical zone, and releasing the serpent - a sort of baptismal rebirth - is obviously symbolic of Adam and Eve in the garden; or maybe returning. So, I wonder if Mother using the simulation pod (which we are repeatedly told she is not meant to use) is representative of Eve's being tempted by the serpent. Which I suspect is meant to repeat this never ending cycle.

@@AaronAlso this exactly. Kepler is the garden. In the Bible the serpent is cast "down* to walk below the earth (something like that, I haven't read the Bible in a while). These serpents tunnel in the earth. The serpent in the Bible also temped Eve with the knowledge of good and evil. I haven't connected that metaphor to the show yet. But it's there I'm sure. I think that in the show Earth isnt inhabited by humans yet, and eventually the garden will fall and humans will be cast out of Kepler (or forced to leave) to earth and have to restart civilization there. I just got done with the show, so Im still taking it all in.

@@thehenryperrin aye remember how fake Marcus was nudged in to the pit by what's supposed to be a devolved human. It was only after that he started seeing things. Then after that it repeatedly whispered to him to not kill mother and when he didn't seem to comply it made Marcus see a projection of himself which attached him, resulting in Marcus stabbing himself with the scalpel.

@@jackwayne8809 that’s because the devolved humans are probably controlled by the ai, that’s why they’re seen eating and walking in the hole.

Nice. With the Actual serpents I didn't catch the metaphor that mother's dialogues in the simulation was an analogy for Eve being tempted by Satan

Definitely saw your comment and really appreciate the kind words! Had a pretty crazy stressful day yesterday but seeing this comment was a big bright spot in that day, so thank you!

@@OneTakeVids WOW thank you! This made my day.

SickAndTired he clearly says ‘were’, not we

Thanks Albino Rhino!

Say what!????😱😱😱😳😳😳

Very cool too how many "serpent gods" you can find in ancient drawings.

Utter bullshite. It is a cycle that will continue with the instructions being digitally given out by however the voice is communicating.

@@EMPERORSPROTECTION-TERRA4LIFE wait… what?

@@OFFmyCHEST the voice is a communication from the digitalised beings/being that is controlling the cycle. Either to re produce itself or lif that it can actually live in and control. Basically a highly evolved form of life that went digital.

@@EMPERORSPROTECTION-TERRA4LIFE Sounds far-fetched. I predict a simpler story with an actual twist to it.

@@OFFmyCHEST how is there not room for twists in what I said? The tume travel theory is to easy and obvious. No real twist involved.

Same here. As how the Sandworms were seen as divine by the Fremen with the spice melange being this super drug that made almost everything possible. Perhaps there are still some factions of semi intelligent or fully intelligent humans on Kepler 22b that like the Fremen are zealots and still worship these things/Sol.

@@DarkLadyAthena1 I hope! I can’t wait to see how the story unfolds, especially since Guzirkowski said he had 5-6 seasons worth of story!

Thanks Fabdanc! Really appreciate the kind words!

Yea, great voice :)

The electromagnetic zone probably messed up with the telemetry units that are used to land the ark, hence not allowing them to land successfully

Wow! Thank you for your kind words Mihhnea!

You’ve already cracked the whole series i’m impressed!! I also had similar thoughts but didn’t have the words to so perfectly tie everything together like you did!!

Thanks for the kind words Peter!

He was hearing voices before even arriving on keppler 22b, and those voices stopped once the ark crashed. Maybe his voices came from elsewhere.

@@coquijams1 True. That's why it is a bit inconsistent to the physical contact leads to communication theory. But his goal is similar to the voice's goal which is to get someone pregnant which makes it interesting. Who is whispering to him?

@@carlossantiago8420 Was The Whisperer intelligence ON the Ark? Have the humans taken something with them, perhaps back to its original home of Keplar22, that is what gave them these mysterious plans for the Necromancers ?

@@mossadon there was teeth relic

@@coquijams1 since they discovered their tech and most important the dark photon in the scriptures, maybe the dark photon IS the entity in some sort of sentient energy, soul like form, it instructed the ancestors to write the scriptures in case he was destroyed so he could be brought back, the temples may be for it to come back in a more powerful form, and if does not work then he lets mother and father go back in time through the core, maybe thats why mother can interface with the metal cards so maybe its all a Skynet like loop

Good points as well.

I think ‘sol’ needs his companion species mankind, but prefers his tools, the androids, to be on his side as they’re the units that allow his serpent evolution. It may be that each timeloop cycle works best when mankind believes through faith that their slavery to sol is part of their own prophesy thus making them utterly suggestible with their own belief that it’s in their best interest to be obedient.

Yaa but if the baby is snake then why is it growing so slow as compared to that of the snake from the mother?

@@naveenyadav9696 Mother is advanced android, tempest is normal human.

Thanks!!

Again this is even mentioned in the show..... do people even listen these days or just stare wide eyed waiting for the next explosion?

@@AngryAndy_ Andrew if you can’t answer politely, don’t bother.

Sol was Campion in the sim speaking to mother.

@@AsILayDyingBFMV that was the snake

@@AsILayDyingBFMV edit: so I think. I could be totally wrong of course.

@@oatlord What snake? The snake was created during the mating process witnessed within the simluation. Whatever Campion is, is the main antagonist of everything that has happened in the show it appears to be. Either 'Sol' (The Kepler 22bs Humans "god" which earth humans inherited (along with dark photon technology to create necromancers) Which as the video hints to, is most probably a extremely advanced and sentient AI(created by the humans of Kepler 22b. [I.E SkyNet]. The video shows evidence to this due to the "entity" being able to communicate whilst within a digital matrix with much ease as compared to whispering broken sentences into the ears of organics.

@@AsILayDyingBFMV the Campion who knocked up mother was not sol or the original creator, imo. It was the snake alien faction. They drove all the events of the season to get to a birthing spot that had its supporters near (4 legged creatures) and the all the food it needed couldn't get it away. It spoke to Paul to get him to strand them, then kill the doctor who could be a threat. It also showed him the cave paintings that I don't think were really there. The snakes have been shown to have telepathic like abilities. Snake got this info from mother while in womb. I think the core of the planet is theirs (hell symbolism) and the tunnels were their travel system. I think otho and Marcus got the twitcher virus and they're behavior is a red herring. Could be wrong there totally. I don't think we saw, heard, or witnessed the real sol at all this season. I think it was all to manipulate mother to get pregnant. How did they know she was there and could do that? The initial ship they arrived on fell into the hole. They were able to get current info from its databases as well as when the girl fell in. They were able to use her image to try to influence people. That also explains why 4 legged creatures tried to push Marcus into hole. So he could be absorbed and used. The black cloaked figures are anti snake faction, which explains their trying to give the cards for warning and trying to kill mother before she could give birth. The snake speaking to Paul to destroy the cards was to prevent mother from seeing whatever warning was in them.

Wow, thank you so much for the kind words!!

@@OneTakeVids you Deserve it!!

Cos those creatures seeking food in holes, and holes are actually tunnels filled with dark energy beams from core. Those creatures was altered by beams long ago, they were actually ancient keplerians, but was altered and now just servant of Sol. They threw Markus at hole cos Sol ordered them to do so, and Sol was in need of a new human "agent", cos Ottho from Ark was enjailed. And Ottho stopped to hear Sol voice after crash, just at same time as Sol found new puppet Markus. This Sol is playing his own game using humans who was in hole, creatures, etc, everything that getting affected by dark beams altered forever. And if you died inside hole, well, your mind is part of core now. And your soul.

@@pavelpopov9904 Interesting.

Thank you!

His name is "champion" minus the H, so possibly a 'bowl of foreshadowing'

Campion was born dead, but revived then by tears from Mothers eyes. Adn mother eyes was necromancer ones, meaning they built with dark photons. So, Campion body is actually was altered by that strange force, in unknown way. At least he got radiation immunity, and who knows what else...

Thanks for checking it out Paul!

In one draft of my script, I theorized it would be an older Campion haha. I feel like when you put a character under a mask, you’re totally setting up a “ohh that’s what it was the whole time??” twist... now you add time travel... we’ll see! haha

I think it’s Paul as it knows how to set traps

The androids have similar white blood and the thing from mother’s vision definitely gave space jockey vibes. On top of that, the intelligence definitely seems to be experimenting in very David-esque ways. On the other hand, if you check out any of the recent Ridley Scott or Guzikowski interviews, they claim the similarities are just due to this show and those movies having similar themes + they just liked the aesthetic so visually, there are similarities. They claim there is no true “connection” and Raised by Wolves is its own continuity. Though who knows... they could be misleading us or they could even change their minds later!

That would be one hell of an insane, and devious plot twist. lol