Ram 2500 3L TWIN TURBO HO Hurricane Engine (540hp) | Will It Replaced the 6.4L HEMI??

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I Review the new 3L Hurricane High Output (HO) twin turbo charged inline-6 engine and discuss whether or not it should replace the longstanding 6.4L Hemi as a heavy duty mechanic. I discuss power specs, fuel economy, internal working and strengh of the engine and make an educated guess that the Hurricane 3L engine WILL NOT be put into the ram 2500 HD pick up trucks because it is not strong enough.
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I hope everyone is doing well. this was a video I thought I would not have to make but I was surprised by how many people suggested that the 3L hurricane engines were in fact going to replace the 6.4L hemi engines in the Ram 2500 HD trucks. and in my opinion there is a 0% chance that is going to happen.
two weeks ago we discuss the possibility of a Cummins gas engine going in the ram HD trucks and there this is a legit possibility but I felt like I needed to adress the Hurricane engines seeing so many folks thought they were going in the HD ram trucks.
So first of all the 3L hurricane engines have been around now for almost 4 years and there is literally no evidence ram is testing them in their HD trucks.
secondly is that the HO engine will need to use premium fuel. and I can't see ram forcing their HD truck owners who own fleets or construction company owners being happy to put premium fuel in their work trucks.
Thirdly, the 3L hurricane does not come with dip stick which in my opinion is bad idea for an HD engine meant for towing which naturally burns more oil.
lastly and this big one is that this 3L engine is not a commerical grade engine it is built and designed to be light weight, fuel efficient and produce a ton of power. not built with strength and rigidity in mind. which is completely opposite to the gas cummins engine I talked about previously. this 3L hurricane HO engine is not meant for and HD application and will most certainly have shortened life span if put into the workload and duty cycles of an HD truck.
00:00 - Intro
01:20 - WHY Hurricane Could Work.
02:27 - No Testing Spotted
03:40 - Premium Fuel NEEDED
04:54 - NO Dip Stick
05:43 - Spray on Cylinder Liners
08:08 - Not Strong Enough

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@tomprovenza7857 Ай бұрын

Same reason there is no EcoBoost in a Super Duty

@michaelpopp1783 Ай бұрын

That Godzilla motor is looking better every day

@AKS-74U Ай бұрын

It's having its fair share of issues as well. But every day I'm becoming more of a fan of big displacement gassers instead of diesel.

@mooch6666 25 күн бұрын

They are amazing motors. They are having the first gen anything issues but the next updated version are gonna be rippers

@TheAudi585 23 күн бұрын

@@AKS-74UI’m hoping the 6.7 gasser Cummins engine will be good.

@cap10newport95 Ай бұрын

I'd like to see a 4.0L straight 8 twin turbo for the HD models. Not because it would be a good idea, just because I want to see it.

@YaBoyFry Ай бұрын

Same that would be kinda sick

@baileymoyer9777 Ай бұрын

I mean to follow along your idea realistically I don’t think a higher displacement i6 is out of the realm of possibility

@GIGABACHI Ай бұрын

2 Words: Crank Flex. As is the I-6 architecture inherently has it, imagine an even longer crank.

@carboydorifutoparty3976 Ай бұрын

@@baileymoyer9777mazda currently has a 3.3L I6 being used in their new awd/rwd suvs atm.

@privateer9181 Ай бұрын

@@GIGABACHIthis was a problem back in the day like the 1950s but the block would be real short compared to then

@bradshouseful 27 күн бұрын

Just got back from a 10 state 4,300 mile trip out west over mountains, thru deserts, and across the windy plains. The 6.4 did fantastic. Terrain, ambient temperatures, or speed did not impact any of the vital temps. Yes, the hemi is thirsty pulling a 10,000lb 5th wheel but power / engine performance was never an issue.

@turnerruma5977 Ай бұрын

I would love to see a 4.5L I-8 Turbo Super Hurricane engine making around 570 Horsepower, 600+ pound-feet of torque with 2 turbos, and can shut down a turbo while highway cruising with a light load to improve MPG's.

@justinvanderzalm4093 Ай бұрын

A 5-6 Liter Inline 6 Turbo Gas engine would be awesome! Big enough to not stress it too much and not need high octane, small enough for efficiency, plenty of room in the engine bay, and most importantly and a awesome substitution for the Diesel Cummins options.

@btlandscapingmowing1778 Ай бұрын

😊😊😊😊

@SurelyYewJest 28 күн бұрын

I would tend to agree. A single-turbo gas straight-6 tuned to take 87 octane. Yes turbos eat into gas mileage, but we're comparing them to dinosaur large displacement V8s that already struggle to break 14 MPG **without a load** in mixed-cycle use. Adding a turbo to a 6-cylinder doing the same driving cycle isn't going to somehow return single-digit MPGs. At worst it will probably be fairly similar MPG.

@colbiecolbie6979 Ай бұрын

One important word …..durability!

@colbiecolbie6979 Ай бұрын

Great video !

@user-sz4hy8ou3d Ай бұрын

Great film sir Alex it will be interesting to see how good these hurricane engines are over time

@user-dm2rd7it7n Ай бұрын

Love my 6.4, it's hard convincing people that the HP and torque #s on paper for the smaller displacement engines dont equal the same real world performance as a bigger, stronger engine.

@SurelyYewJest 28 күн бұрын

It's essentially the same argument as a Ford F450 pickup driver saying "But Ford's red 6.7 PS does 1200 lbs of torque, baby!!! That's getting close to semis!!!" Except the commercial 6.7 has a much lower output for...reliability and longevity. Yes a 6.7 could put out say, 1500 lbs of torque, but it is far more likely to explode doing real work every day for 10 hours at that output.

@colbiecolbie6979 Ай бұрын

Im digging the new Getty Adventures signage.

@LindsayPeters987 Ай бұрын

Your videos are the BEST! 👌

@JWL427 Ай бұрын

Keep up the great videos. I agree I want a dip stick 3ven in a 1500. I'm concerned about the spray on liners too.

@jameszeiger8533 Ай бұрын

Great topic and the points made are all very good! PS: you need to get that bad boy Ram detailed, get her purdy for the summer...she is a beast and a beauty!

@craigswanson7478 Ай бұрын

I’ve got a 2023 Power Wagon like you. Love it. Yeah I don’t want any plasma coated cylinders for my vehicles lol. My snowmobiles and ATVs have them but I’m not trying to get hundreds of thousands of miles out of them. Like you said they’re cheaper, lighter and dissipate heat better but I don’t think it’s what you want for long-term durability. Any dirt gets down there and you scratch through the coating you’re done.

@TheGettyAdventures Ай бұрын

Agreed, It's nothing new but it just does not seem like the durable choice.

@greggb681 Ай бұрын

Bro, I just want to say THANK YOU for creating these very educational videos!

@TheGettyAdventures Ай бұрын

I appreciate that!

@agerardomp Ай бұрын

Greetings Alex. splendid news; all the power that an authentic truck with a heritage of war and the soul of extreme situations should have. Although it compromises performance a little (mpg). The 6 cylinders with anabolics are becoming more and more intense!! 🤦 Your review is very interesting, thank you very much for sharing it! 🤠

@icare7151 Ай бұрын

Well stated!

@ScottFromScratch Ай бұрын

You should make a video of maintenance throughout the life of your power wagon and what maintenance you may need in the future based on mileage, the area you live in and your day to day activities and ventures.

@aarons307 Ай бұрын

Stellantis has already said they will continue with the BGE (big gas engine) 6.4L in the heavy duty trucks. I don't see a 3.0L TT being able to meet the duty cycles of a BGE. I do hope the 6.4 is refined for more power to compare with the GM 6.6L.

@sonsofliberty3081 Ай бұрын

The 6.4l will out pull the 6.6 every day of the week. The 6.4l has tq down low and keeps it through the cycle to shift points. What no one is telling you is that the 6.4l is fully forged and I saw a guy who had a fleet of 6.4l in 3500s pulling hotshots. 18k lbs all the time. He got 350-450k miles out of every motor. You'll never get that out of the china owned gm.

@aarons307 Ай бұрын

@@sonsofliberty3081 Well that's good info. I have a 2014 2500 with the 6.4, first year with it in the RAM trucks, 96K miles now. The 6-spd trans is the achilles heel, but it does come alive when rpms are above 3000. Grades above 4% it likes 3rd gear at 68 mph near 4000rpm with a camper trailer. I wouldn't say its a low torque monster, it likes to does like to rev but does so effortlessly.

@M_dot202 Ай бұрын

@@sonsofliberty3081 The 6.4 DOES NOT have torque available low in the rpm range. It has to be revived to produce power. Not at all like the 7.3 with 80% of it max torque available at 1600 rpm. The 7.3 is the benchmark in the gasser HD market. I've owned both the 6.4 and the 7.3.

@nickberg4379 29 күн бұрын

@@sonsofliberty3081 The 6.4 ram makes about 140 torque at 1500 rpm. The 7.3 ford gas makes 400 ft/lbs of torque at 1500 rpm which completely crushes the ram.

@panthermartin7784 Ай бұрын

So the I6 is a throw away engine, great another success story.

@robertpulliam9973 Ай бұрын

I think you’re Right On!

@TheGettyAdventures Ай бұрын

Yes sir! I should of been more clear I mean the big girl ISX cummins

@edkruzel Ай бұрын

I completely agree, smaller and lighter with more power and hotter is how you build a one use rocket. The lead developer in an interview said they designed the engine for turbo boost to address durability, however that is the same individual that commented that wheel liners are optional to save cost and smaller fuel tanks are provided because most buyers don't want the expense of filling a larger tank. When those in upper management of these companies spout that kind of nonsense, it tells me they are only interested in making a quick profit and not about longevity. I was the guy buying new every two to three years just to have the latest, and while I'm very fortunate to be able to afford these current ridiculous prices, I refuse to buy garbage. I'll keep my current truck until the wheels fall off, and I'm currently in the market for a pre-2010 diesel that I can rebuild/restore from the ground up.

@chownzi2461 Ай бұрын

A turbo hd truck would be cool though like you said the 6.7 cummins gas with a turbo would be sick

@MattD3406 Ай бұрын

I agree, while the power/torque is good, just don’t think the duty cycle that a 3/4 - 1 ton truck demands is a good match

@ericj810 Ай бұрын

Agreed. 😊

@sniper60605 7 күн бұрын

You know as well as I do that the gas 6.7L Cummins is on the way! Ka-Blam!!! I think that thing will put out over 650LBFT! From a gas engine, that’s right. Hopefully that’s what’s coming!

@blackcoffee730 Ай бұрын

Does the 6.4 hemi have cylinder deactivation issues? Does it have that?

@DJ2226 Ай бұрын

A lot of the reasoning behind why they didn't upgrade and refine the Hemi is because the Hurricane platform kills multiple birds with one stone. It's cheaper to make an I6 than V8 in general since they are * typically * less complex and can be made on the same assembly platform as an existing I4. That is the case with the Hurricane as it's roughly based on the 2.0L, and it was already compliant with emissions as a 4 cylinder. Use forged internals and turbocharge it to get big power, and now you have an engine that can push past the 392 in sedans power wise but sip gas like the Pentastar on a dyno for the EPA's testing. On top of all of that you had more Hemi options between the Hellcat, 345, and 392, but now it's just the SO and HO versions of the I6 with a lot of the power differences coming from the differences in boost. No emissions to worry about that would require modernization of existing engines, no more gas guzzling/CAFE fines from the EPA (bonus points since they are going to do EVs and hybrids), and cheaper to manufacture. Ultimately they took this route to save money, and while it's true that it's a low chance of the Hurricane coming to the HD trucks it's definitely not 0%. I can almost guarantee you that Stellantis is probably looking at ways to stuff it into the 2500 and 3500 without compromising too much of it's longevity. If not the Hurricane, they'll probably look into doing something with VM Motori over Cummins since they actually own VM through Fiat. It almost feels like they are itching to drop the Hemi with the quickness at Stellantis.

@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Ай бұрын

I don't get why this guy is so "certain". It seems he's scared and now screams loudly "no this will never happen" when RAM and Dodge killed the Hemi just like that when daddy Stellantis said so. That company has proven to not care about heritage in the slightest. Also why does make the 6.4 Hemi seem like a truck engine? It's the same engine that was in the Scat Packs, just detuned for regular gas. RAM will take the HO 3.0 Hurricane and give it an 87 octane tune and that will be it. As you said, they made these engines to save money everywhere they can, why on earth would they make a brand new engine for this application? The Americanness is over.

@warriordude9 Ай бұрын

Oh baby gotta love this heavy duty ram!!! Excellent review as usual 👍

@glennhoch9106 Ай бұрын

I've seen the new 2500 with hemi engine but no hemi badge on the side. curious as to why this might be. Are they getting us used to the idea of no hemi.

@coachvonyo Ай бұрын

I guess we should monitor the battery/alternator voltage with an under hood clip on reader vs. a voltage gauge in cab? Maybe we should have a mercury thermometer under the hood to read water temps vs an in cab gauge? How about oil pressure monitored only by looking at an engine block screw in reader versus and in cab gauge? I can go on and on. The ability to easily check your oil level anytime without popping the hood from the comfort of the cab deviates from the norm, but if you stop and think about it, what's one more electrical system in a sea of them? I like it.

@ericj810 Ай бұрын

I have the chevy 2.7 HO silverado. It does fine for what I use it for. Pulled 8000lbs like butter in the smoky mountains. I have to wait and see how these new dodge hurricane engines go for a couple years b4 i look into it. If i ever buy a dodge truck that is.

@jasoncheeseman8154 Ай бұрын

I agree 100% with everything you said but… hear me out 1 people dropping 85-100k for a 3/4 ton don’t care about fuel prices 2 how many people have a 3/4 ton to tow the camper twice a year . I live in pei and I would say less than 15 % of 3/4 ton’s tow anything.. I just think it would be a nice option .. Great video 👍

@romankozerski3097 Ай бұрын

Hi to all Do you think it’s worth it to install on HEMI 6.4 propane installation?

@robertbass974 Ай бұрын

I saw a video where there is a plasic water line that runs behind the engine on the new engine that,if it leaks, the cab has to pulled off of the truck to repair it!?

@MARINE1FORCE6425 Ай бұрын

Does ram plan to put the 7.0 hemi in the HD truck?

@LMGConnoisseur Ай бұрын

I wish they had replaced the 3.6L v6 with the 3L I6. I love the hemis so much

@justinbourgeois4685 Ай бұрын

There's still tons of them on the road! You can always buy one

@GIGABACHI Ай бұрын

While not impossible (ask Volvo and Suzuki)it's harder and has some particular drawbacks when you try to install an I-6 on a FWD application.

@moparjr89 Ай бұрын

@@GIGABACHI trucks are not fwd

@Cloud30000 Ай бұрын

If not for the CAFE fines, they would have kept all 3 engines like Ford did. Only reason they dropped the Hemi was regulations, and dropping the Pentastar would just make that situation worse.

@SurelyYewJest 28 күн бұрын

OK, LOL when pointing at that Ram 1500 across the lot that looks like it crashed into a Jeep.

@davidholcomb9961 Ай бұрын

Yup, right again. Now, because Ram already uses a Cummins engine my feelings tell me Ram will get the Cummins gas engine in the HD lineup, possibly replacing the 392. But, i believe Ram needs to keep the 392 because of the the popularity and horsepower that a certain group of HD drivers enjoy. I believe the Cummins gas engine will be rated to out tow the 392 because of the huge torque difference placing it as just under the Cummins diesel. When people can actually drive the Cummins gas engine and realize that it's a nice alternative to a diesel it may become the base engine in the 2500 and 3500 models. Right now i think the 392 needs to stay or Ram may lose buyers in my opinion. And who knows; Cummins could tune the gas engine to make more horsepower to win over the rest of the gas crowd and then the 392 then could be axed. For right now, keep building a stockpile of 392 engines to keep buyers happy for a couple of years.

@bobman717 Ай бұрын

6.4 with no AFM is too desirable Also spray on cylinder liners are a non issue as they are way better, and they increase displacement vs cast iron etc.

@davidlotspeich5547 Ай бұрын

I think you hit the nail on the head. The hurricane engine, at its core, is a light duty engine not suitable for heavy-duty use. And for me, not having a dipstick is a deal breaker.

@Rockrewls Ай бұрын

You're right good analysis.

@rickclarke6608 Ай бұрын

Question.. 2021 Tradesman 3500 Hemi 6.4 I've heard a drivers side engine tic starting at 2500 miles. The dealer wants me to leave it with them or the won't write it up so it's on record. I have 17,800 miles on it now. Do I have anything to be concerned about? 2 more years on warranty

@moparjr89 Ай бұрын

Either broken exhaust manifold bolt or failed lifter both covered under warranty

@arch417powersports Ай бұрын

Mine had the tick from 7k to 20k miles (when I sold it.) There are lots of posts on the Ram forums about it. Doesn't seem to be a concern.

@cactuscanuck6802 29 күн бұрын

Get it looked at when you still have warranty. Case in point: i just took my truck in for an engine oil change, and almost ignored my rear diff cover "sweating" ever so slightly. Truck is 4 yrs old and still under warranty. But I mentioned it... when they popped the cover to re-seal it, they found metal filings in the diff oil. I didn't even know about the problem, diff wasn't howling, but I got a complete diff rebuild under warranty because I didn't ignore it. Good luck brother

@rickclarke6608 29 күн бұрын

Thanks, I'll get it looked at.. I still have 2 more years on factory's warranty.

@timmaw9559 Ай бұрын

I think you hit the nail on the head. Just look at Ford, you don't see them putting their 3.5 eco Boost into the heavy duty line up. For I believe all the same reasons you have mentioned.

@TheGettyAdventures Ай бұрын

It's a very nice comparison because the HO Ecoboost is putting down more power then the 7.3L godzilla, yet we don't see the ecoboost in the superduty trucks.

@timmaw9559 Ай бұрын

@TheGettyAdventures I had a 2017 3.5 eco boost. Loved it. Towed my 10000lb rv with it sometimes. Worked great. Now I have a superDuty with the godzilla motor. And tow an even bigger rv 12000lb. The ecoboost has the power to tow it, just not the staying power and robustness of the big naturally aspirated engines.

@DH-hp7nv Ай бұрын

I still believe in no replacement for displacement. Hate to see manufacturers canning all the v8 engines. I am confident that i will never be in the market for a “hurricane” engine. Too ironic for me down here in south louisiana. Thanks for the video Alex. I will stick with my 6.7 PS.

@rocket9152 Ай бұрын

Great video once more. So the question remains: what engine will replace the 6.4 Hemi in the Ram 2500? Unless, surprisingly, they keep it for the foreseeable future?

@ALMX5DP Ай бұрын

I can see it sticking around for a while longer. There obviously might be changes like GPFs added for emissions but I bet the basic mill will remain.

@ryandoyle4344 Ай бұрын

Not sure, regulations effect commercial vehicles yet. Sustainability = Trash

@Bruhwhatthehellbruh Ай бұрын

The spray on liner is what caused fords 5.0 to burn oil with the gen 3 from 2018-2020. They went back to a traditional liner with the gen 4 in 2021 and now they don’t have the problem anymore.

@ALMX5DP Ай бұрын

Gen 4 didn’t come out until this year with the new 2024 MY vehicles. I believe the Gen 4 still employ plasma arc spay in liners as well as their displacement is identical to the Gen 3.

@Bruhwhatthehellbruh Ай бұрын

@@ALMX5DP gen 4 is 2021 to present 5.0 coyote. The 2024 f150’s got a refresh but the engines themselves have no changes so it’s still the same gen. Gen 3 was from 2018-2020, the problematic years.

@ALMX5DP Ай бұрын

@@Bruhwhatthehellbruh well that’s not what Ford Authority, Ford Performance, Wikipedia and others say. They refer to only ‘24 MY vehicles has having the Gen 4, which still uses the spray on liner.

@JROC734 Ай бұрын

WTF are you talking about? All GEN3 and GEN4 Coyotes come factory with the spray-in plasma lining. Blaming spray-in linears being the issue, is like blaming guns for shooting people. Do R35 GTR's have oil burnoff issues? (Nissan bought the technology from Ford to use in the R35 GTR, before Ford ever used it) Do 13/14 GT500's have oil burnoff issues? Do 18+ Mustang GT's have oil burnoff issues? All these vehicles use spray in linears, as do 21+ F150 5L trucks. Spay-in linears are the bomb when executed properly. Why do you think GEN3/GEN4 Coyotes weigh 15+ lbs less than GEN1/GEN2 Coyote? Why do you think GEN3/GEN4 Coyote is 307 ci as opposed to 302 ci, with a .03" larger bore diameter than GEN1/GEN2? Why do you think GEN3/GEN4 Coyote heads flow better than GEN1/GEN2 heads, and use bigger valves? The answer is because spray-in linears allow for these things. The issue for the 18-20 trucks experiencing oil burnoff is because Ford sent some of the blocks out with too rough a texture in the linears. Blame Ford, blame a shift manager not wanting to scrap a bunch of blocks that were finished on his shift, blame whoever, but when done correctly sprayin linears are awesome. I mean how many 2K-2,500K WHP racecars are using GEN3 blocks? The technology isn't weak, just some of the blocks from those years had the wrong finish in the linears which gave oil a place to collect to bypass the rings. Many times this issue is fixed with more miles as the rings wear into the linears more. Some have even fixed it with 1 or 2 oil changes using a oil Moly treatment. BTW my 18 5L experiences 0 noticeable oil burnoff.

@Bruhwhatthehellbruh Ай бұрын

@@ALMX5DP you’re looking at the Mustang engines bro. I just looked up articles you are referring to. Yes mustang 5.0’s have changed for 2024 but the f150 version has been the same since 2021

@lauderdalechad Ай бұрын

Let's not forget that small displacement engine have almost zero engine breaking abilities

@cstgx Ай бұрын

Yes, my 3.0 duramax had a hell of a time slowing my camper down on any downhill grade. My 7.3 gas super duty does a far better job. The 3.0 had an exhaust brake too.

@Weak_juan Ай бұрын

Dont forget, 4th gen ram HD came standard with the smaller 5.7 hemi. No ecoboobs in Superdutys probably means no hurricane in HD.

@ronlind1757 Ай бұрын

Cummins 6.7 gas i6 will be going in the hd Rams. Either an option or replacing the 6.4...

@jabroni6199 Ай бұрын

Same reason you won’t see Ford put a 3.5EB in the Super Duty. It may pull harder than their 7.3 but it does not have the duty cycle.

@gerardgraham9959 Ай бұрын

A single turbo worries me...dual turbos scare the shit out of me when talking long term durability.

@thim8009 Ай бұрын

The Flt quotes that the ho hurricane has a lower tow rating than the standard output.

@TXCherokee Ай бұрын

Is this a gas version of 3.0 L EcoDiesel?

@dylanbailey2812 Ай бұрын

10:53 Roaring applause! Paper doesn't mean a thing in the real world

@hahaadventures4838 Ай бұрын

Just redesign the 6.4 up to a 7.0 and make it so it properly lubricates the cam/lifters!!!!

@jameyharviston2452 Ай бұрын

You can put this video right next to your Christmas list for Santa.

@TheGettyAdventures Ай бұрын

lol Santa is probably being me a load of coal

@JT-ko3rv Ай бұрын

Ford and Gm arent dropping their V8s anytime soon if Ram does say goodbye forever. They really just need a 450 hp 7.0l 426 Hemi that would be the shi.....😊

@user-cb1fv5hf1z Ай бұрын

They should put the SST low output in the Jeep Gladiator, but they won't, it makes too much sense, Stelantis doesn't care, they say you can have Fake Exhaust sound and Frame Shakers in your car but no V8. I have the 23 Gladiator Rubicon with the 3.6 and I think the oil temps & water temps are allowed to go too high.

@derekcaylor8449 Ай бұрын

B series Cummins 6.7L/5.9L have never used cylinder liners like HD diesel engines.

@Bill-sp8kb Ай бұрын

They are equipped with dry liners.

@privateer9181 Ай бұрын

Il defend the hurricane here….it has 7.5 quarts of oil..with an oil cooler it will be cool….its turbos r liquid cooled also if i recall….i dont see the 6.4 going away..if anything i see the 7.0 liter hemi being resurrected…..there was a recent TFL comparison of the hurricane and the 5.7 hemi..the hemi got better milage towing..but the hurricane was way cooler ..the hemi was literally burning up at 283 degress oil in the 1500 vs the hurricane at 230 ..now im sure the hd 6.4 has a much much better cooling system…but the hurricane seems COOL. And an HD hurricane would be hooked to that better cooling too. id hook it right up to the cummins oil cooler radiator and tranny cooler…it would be cool….i dont think for a second we will ever see this engine in the HD….again i see a 7.0 liter or cummins gas option.. as far as the plasma linings..they r so hard that it will always be the piston that wears…the question i guess is what temp damages the lining..if i had to guess it’s ridiculous high.

@joatmon1857 Ай бұрын

The HO Hurricane engine it is Recommended for 91 octane but not required as stated! Obviously if you want the full 540hp you must use 91 octane as stated by TFL talking the the designer himself!!!

@dannysmith713 Ай бұрын

Needs to be a 3.5 L or 4.0 L Hurricane in the 2500 HD 550 HP 550 FTLBS

@prevost8686 17 күн бұрын

At least they named it correctly. It’s bound to blow….

@codyfarmer1 Ай бұрын

Just go grab the Chevy 2500 l8t. The thing runs like a dream and pulls whatever u want with 87 octane. And u dont have to pay 1 dollar more per gallon for diesel.

@moparjr89 Ай бұрын

I've never paid a dollar extra for diesel hell I'm paying 50cents less for diesel then low grade

@codyfarmer1 Ай бұрын

@moparjr89 lucky you. Here in Pennsylvania. Diesel is over 1.00 more then 87

@rockymountainjazzfan1822 7 күн бұрын

@@moparjr89 Where I live in the Great Plains states, diesel fuel costs 17%-25% more than 87 octane unleaded gasoline. The gap can get even wider in the winter when the diesel price goes up due to heating oil demand in other parts of the country. When one looks at the acquisition and maintenance cost premium for diesel pickups (that cost premium almost 100% due to all of the insane emission control regs on diesel engines), owning a diesel pickup only makes economic sense for people who tow or haul big loads and/or drive lots of miles. When I no longer needed my HD diesel pickup for heavy loads or towing, I traded it for an F-150 4WD with the 5.0 Coyote V8.

@UTBanjo Ай бұрын

Going to the hurricane is a great way to completely kill the gas HD lineup. Would be better to just use the upcoming Cummins in gas form.

@qhiggie Ай бұрын

Stannis should produce a 5 or 6L in-line six that puts about 750 hp out for these HD trucks. Call it the tornado. 😂

@user-fk2mp5xh4s Ай бұрын

The Dipstick is located behind the steering wheel.

@cactuscanuck6802 29 күн бұрын

The 6.4 Hemi will stay put; for all the reasons you mention, plus it's in a 2500. There's currently no CAFE requirements in the 2500 truck segment, so Ram/Ford/GM have no reason to change out those V8 engines.

@M_dot202 Ай бұрын

How about a gas 5.9L (throwback) inline 6 low pressure turbo with 450hp and 550lbft of torque...on 87 octane.🤯

@TheGettyAdventures Ай бұрын

Sounds like an absolute winner in my books.

@moparjr89 Ай бұрын

Rumor is Cummins is making a gas version of the 6.7

@1hasbeen531 Ай бұрын

My old 2015 2500 with 6.4 went across the scales at 23,500 lbs with the toy hauler. That whizz-bang Hurricane would not cut the mustard.

@TheGettyAdventures Ай бұрын

The Whizz-bang lmao. But you arent kidding that’s a big load at 23,500 wow

@1hasbeen531 Ай бұрын

@@TheGettyAdventures Averaged 7.5-8.5 MPG at 65 MPH.

@M_dot202 Ай бұрын

Not a chance..else you would have already seen a 3.5 Ecoboost in a Super Duty.

@TheGettyAdventures Ай бұрын

Agreed!

@stevenhanna6973 Ай бұрын

Smaller displacement engine hates weight

@skunkroad1 29 күн бұрын

These are light duty engines. The only way one might have a chance is to detune it so it wouldn’t burn up. Cummins 6.7 in a pickup has way more power than in a freightliner chassis. Ford power stroke again way more power in a pickup than a f-750. And the 6.6 duramax in the pickups again way more power that the heavier chassis from international and gm. They just couldn’t be worked hard in commercial duty.

@rapTorfx4 Ай бұрын

Wait. They don't even have an oil dipstick?

@tyler87kelley Ай бұрын

Hell with ram 2500 having a 10,000 GVWR a little 6 cylinder is probably good enough......the piss poor payload has got me selling mine for a 3500.

@TheGettyAdventures Ай бұрын

If I was to buy a Ram diesel I would be looking at a 3500 as well.

@fordman2288 Ай бұрын

No replacement for displacement in HD. simple= reliable

@BadoreksDailys Ай бұрын

I doubt it... ON PAPER it "makes sense" just based on power numbers, but why doesn't Ford use the EB in the HD's instead of the 7.3? We all know why....

@tomdrew5818 Ай бұрын

Love my 7.3 gasser!

@justinbourgeois4685 Ай бұрын

Why dont HD gas trucks use turbos?

@TheGettyAdventures Ай бұрын

Honestly I would not be surprised if we started seeing HD gas engine with them. The Cummins Gas engine uses a turbo and I think it’s going to be a solid unit

@GIGABACHI Ай бұрын

Costs, reliability concerns and overcomplication.

@josipdolic6391 Ай бұрын

No replacement for displacement is the way to go in HD world,but also in 1500 sector

@TheGettyAdventures Ай бұрын

displacement has a lot of natural benefits

@josipdolic6391 Ай бұрын

@@TheGettyAdventures learned that thanks to honest people like yourself Alex Thanks again and God bless you

@rodjones812 Ай бұрын

That Hurricane has problems too…

@theworldaccordingtochris4370 Ай бұрын

North America, DON'T make the mistake Europe made on going smaller with little turbocharged engines. They aren't more efficient, they aren't economical, keep the big old reliable lumps.

@ryandoyle4344 Ай бұрын

All part of their plan

@patriot5526 Ай бұрын

There’s an old saying that you have to dance with the girl that brought you to the prom. The 6.4 Hemi has given Ram a great reputation for capable and reliable heavy duty trucks. It took a long time to gain that reputation, and it would silly, in my opinion, to stop producing it. Why kill the Golden Goose?

@TheGettyAdventures Ай бұрын

I don't think Fiat felt like it was worth re-investing into the Hemi platform most likely forced by government regulations as well. nothing wrong with the 6.4L hemi, it has its issues but overall a nice engine.

@kcp7042 Ай бұрын

The hurricane’s max towing numbers are lower than the outgoing hemi I believe. Would make the HD trucks towing anemic.

@TheGettyAdventures Ай бұрын

That is correct sir! a little backwards in my mind

@youtubecarspottersguide1 Ай бұрын

maybe a new big block I-6 ?

@haroldbirge6881 Ай бұрын

🏆👀

@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Ай бұрын

The 6.4 Hemi is a car engine just like the 3.0 Hurricane is a car engine. I say it will happen because RAM doesn't seem to care about the ideal engine and just does what daddy Stellantis tells them, just like Jeep and Dodge. They will put a truck tune on it with 87 octane and be done with it. It just needs to be more powerful than the 6.4, which is easy. The points in this video are naive. Set yourself up for dissapointment.

@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevel Ай бұрын

During the towing tests the engine oil temperature was much cooler in the 3.0 I6 standard output vs the 5.7 hemi. There are huge advantages to the 3.0 I6 gas. Just wait till the next version comes out. The new TRX is gonna be a whole other level

@moparjr89 Ай бұрын

Don't know what you were looking at but the fast lane just did a test an oil temp on the hurricane hit 285 while the hemi was alot less

@Jbennyho Ай бұрын

Great analysis. I think you are spot on. 540 hp is asking a lot of a 3 liter engine. Reliability and longevity will surely suffer over the long term in a HD especially and perhaps in a hard working half ton too. A Charger or Challenger, or some sports type cars would be great applications for that engine.

@user-sz4hy8ou3d Ай бұрын

I completely agree with you my sir. I'm already hearing some not so great things about these hurricane engines

@sonsofliberty3081 Ай бұрын

If anything, the cummins will replace it. You can't have under 300ci for a work truck like this pulling 18k lbs. All day. They need a fully forged motor.

@hunteranderson7007 Ай бұрын

Had to stop at 5 minutes because I about lost my mind when I found out the inlines six’s don’t have a dipstick?!?? Are you kidding me???

@user-sz4hy8ou3d Ай бұрын

Nope they are not kidding you. It's a joke of a motor in my opinion

@stephenwest798 Ай бұрын

Where fools rush in comes to mind when I think of Hurricane six in anything, Hemi please.

@markv78 Ай бұрын

Wonders what the engineering decision was with deleting an oil dip stick other than we can save 0.50 on every truck . vehicle. It's not good for the owners if anything they should have both an electronic level indicator sensor plus dipstick to double check . Ridiculous why Ram? Chevy and Ford still give us the stick with all due respect 😄

@chasebeatty9539 Ай бұрын

Cummins is developing a 6.7 I6 gas engine for school buses and other heavy duty vehicles. I bet they will replace the 6.4 Hemi with that engine.

@benjaminwayneb Ай бұрын

1000 lbs. too heavy.

@moparjr89 Ай бұрын

@benjaminwayneb the 6.7 Cummins only weighs 1000 pounds as a diesel moron😂 a gas version will be lighter the 6.4 is 580 pounds

@JHuffPhoto 28 күн бұрын

@@benjaminwaynebprobably no heavier than the 6.7 diesel engine. Heck I say make it 8 liters and tune it for low end power. Keep it simple and it will sell like hotcakes. If I were looking at an HD gasser I would seriously consider the 7.3 Godzilla right now

@robertburgess6100 Ай бұрын

They are going to have the same problem as the Ford Ecobost pos.

@Jon651 Ай бұрын

Sure the Hurricane engine has some good numbers on paper, but nobody ever tells us AT WHAT RPM they are producing those numbers. I couldn't find any RPMs listed for the HP and torque numbers that Ram provides. I have a sneaking suspicion that you have to rev the devil out of that motor to achieve those figures, and that's NOT what I want to do in a HD truck. There is no replacement for displacement.

@TheGettyAdventures Ай бұрын

I actually think I read it makes like 90% of torque by 2,300 RPM but I agree with what you are saying, on paper numbers don't always translate to real power underload.

@cactuscanuck6802 29 күн бұрын

As the owner of a 2.7L ecoboost I can tell you in my case the paper #s and real performance match up. 400 lb-ft at 2700 rpm, and it holds that across to 4000 rpm. I don't have to rev it up to get it to grunt. I'm certain the Hurricane will do similarly. But, they should stay with the 6.4 in the HD truck - better suited to the application

@BurchellAtTheWharf Ай бұрын

I think with all these factors, # 5 & # 6 are gonna have some over heating issues and new windows 😅

@adamg3911 Ай бұрын

Why doesn’t Ram use CGI cylinder blocks like ford did with their gas 2.7?

@ALMX5DP Ай бұрын

Probably didn’t see a need for it. The 2.7 uses a split block type design with separate girdle so that may have necessitated the CGI construction.

@adamg3911 Ай бұрын

@@ALMX5DP Understood. From my perspective, CGI seems like a better choice. Most marine engines, big diesel engines and even nascar blocks are made of it. Not sure why fleet vehicles are so far behind.

@ALMX5DP Ай бұрын

@@adamg3911 for a heavy duty or commercial product definitely. This hurricane is going to be for their cars and light trucks/suvs. I’m sure there is a longevity case to be made even for those to use CGI but they also have to consider weight and cost type aspects and maybe even emissions stuff too for that vehicle category.

@adamg3911 Ай бұрын

@@ALMX5DP Understood. My argument is with the “light truck” term. The RHO is currently being delivered to dealers in 6200 pound trucks and is in my opinion closer to HD truck weight territory. If this engine was placed in a 4000 pound truck then I would agree with your statement, but in reality these RHO trucks will likely be hualing around extra weight on top of their heavy curb weights and will likely not last as long as the 6.4 would. A over engineered cgi engine would be nice to have as an option to people that want it, that’s all I am trying to say.

@ALMX5DP Ай бұрын

@@adamg3911 ah I get what you're saying there for sure. Yeah with as heavy as pickups are getting, even half tons are carrying considerable weight and are rated to tow to the moon it seems. I too would like to see something more robust, I just feel like many OEMs know that half tons are generally used pretty gingerly as daily drivers and weekend warrior type uses. I always wanted to see a 6.4 Ram 1500 just to know it would be a stout performer for years and years. Hopefully someday in the future we'll see the trend reverse for this segment to provide owners with more robust powertrains.

@Steven91992 Ай бұрын

I wouldn't say 0% this company has done a lot of stupid things 😂

@avioncamper Ай бұрын

Spray on liner? I see longevity issues already. 500hp out of a 3L engine, heat and more heat. Where is the dipstick, Ram? Sounds like a engine for the 1500 only. Alex right again.

@ALMX5DP Ай бұрын

Yeah it’s definitely a light duty engine designed for half tons and the upcoming Charger type coupes and sedans. No different really to how other automakers stage their engine lineups.