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@forggstans3 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I'm making this kind of video. Did you like it? Also, I know it's early to tell but who's your bias in Aespa?
@Ngangom_Uttam_Singh3 жыл бұрын
Giselle
@lourenrose19673 жыл бұрын
I think is between Karina or Giselle! but is kinda early, I want to know their personalities a bit more
@thisisme48063 жыл бұрын
Ningning and Winter! also thankyou for making this!
@orbit7873 жыл бұрын
Winter
@flajerfaisen1793 жыл бұрын
Giselle
@snowystar93153 жыл бұрын
Ningning may not be the best dancer technique wise, but I feel like she has the best expressions and stage presence in the group~ 👍
@sammiechu9493 жыл бұрын
totally!
@aera47863 жыл бұрын
I agree
@Ghost-bn7ce3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I can agree with you on that
@nicolecr8823 жыл бұрын
agree... she stood out the most in the dance practice in my opinion
@elmamende34643 жыл бұрын
Yasss
@samuel-ge9ut3 жыл бұрын
crazy how i dont understand a single thing about those terms but i still watch the entire video like im understanding everything
@sanafatima27873 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@forggstans3 жыл бұрын
lol I'm sorryyy. I admit this one was a bit too heavy in informations hahah. Any questions please ask
@sanafatima27873 жыл бұрын
@@forggstans It's okie okie It's just WE are more stupid! 😂
@oozerboozer76283 жыл бұрын
@@forggstans Um do you think Karina is kind of a weak Main Dancer?
@ayaahmedmahersayedabdelaal2423 жыл бұрын
@@forggstans I have a question. Do you think Karina would still be a main dancer if she was in a different group? I think she’s doing great, and I love her energy/presence but I feel like she isn’t the kind of dancer who would be a main dancer if she was in a group with dancers like Chaeyon, Chaeryoung, Eunbi, Lisa or Momo, yk what I mean? No hate though! I love her and I’m not a professional dancer or anything hahaha.
@somebody123773 жыл бұрын
You know what is funny? People were bringing seulgi down, saying she wasn’t a good main dancer comparing her to momo and Lisa. Now with Karina, people are using Yeji and seulgi to bring her down. Honestly, like kpop stans can’t be satisfied. Aespa seems to be a balanced group, which is rare these days.
@yianantonio39803 жыл бұрын
more like people compare her to yeji and chaeryeong, and chaeyeon
@pyreworks52103 жыл бұрын
Yep aespa is actually a well balanced group. They're not the best at dancing but their vocals make up for it. Also I see much more examples of kpop groups improving in dance (TWICE, RedVelvet, Exo, Some members of bts) than improving vocals. Idk why tho, maybe because vocals are harder to train?
@olindamendes45883 жыл бұрын
And seulgi is better than lisa tho
@snow53313 жыл бұрын
@@olindamendes4588 why u lying now?
@olindamendes45883 жыл бұрын
@@snow5331 im not lying, lisa isnt versatil
@ladyleenlapatis77213 жыл бұрын
I feel like Ningning is the same with Jennie (from Blackpink), she's more of a performer than a dancer. Her facial expressions never falter, she has musicality, and her vocals.... my gosh her vocals!
@Hi-tr1st3 жыл бұрын
And she looks like jennie she's Jennie's daughter
@mariaahmadd66883 жыл бұрын
same
@CYZMRREMOVED3 жыл бұрын
yes you're absolutely right, her expression on stage is the same as Jennie's, never shaken !!🤩
@user-hg3wq6fs8q3 жыл бұрын
Same! I actually feel like she has the most presence in the group, which makes me overlook any technical dancing weaknesses that she might have
@teume_lover63963 жыл бұрын
@@Hi-tr1st plus Ningning bias is Jennie!
@jeyd53393 жыл бұрын
I really found Karina's technique as similar to SinB. Clean, not flashy. She blends and does not really stands out in dance when looking at it as a group but when you focus, oh damn she's good.
@koy2863 жыл бұрын
Yeah both queens
@salty_42753 жыл бұрын
That’s what I love about sinb since that makes her different from other main dancers
@stvvbb3 жыл бұрын
All SM main dancers doesn't outshine their members when dancing as a group. Seulgi,Hyoyeon, Victoria all have beat awareness and matches their energy with the rest if the members. This proves that SM also have one of the best dancers.
@heriela73793 жыл бұрын
Garcia, Steven OMG YESSSS
@aideul6363 жыл бұрын
yes yes yes
@ubergamer20103 жыл бұрын
Karina's dancing is very clean and pleasant to the eye, SM tends to push these kinds of dancers because they make formations look really good (Yoona, Seulgi)
@thatgirlnamedfangirl21433 жыл бұрын
YESSSSS
@harry32973 жыл бұрын
I agree. It's really nice watching Karina and Yoona dance
@carles46783 жыл бұрын
I wish you would do a video about determining the best main dancers in each Generations and how the dancing standards in K-pop changes through time
@forggstans3 жыл бұрын
that's an interesting idea
@OGseoulite3 жыл бұрын
@@forggstans Deeeeefintely recommend reaching out to 2nd gen & 3rd gen reaction channels and youtubers for that one!👍🏽 Idk about 1st gen but they should be able to help
@claireclaire79863 жыл бұрын
@@forggstans hope u can also make a vid for god tier dancers. love ur vids!!
@jimu71663 жыл бұрын
@@forggstans yesss plz do a video of that. And also can you do a ranking video of main dancers of 3rd and 4th gen.thank you
@J_jae3 жыл бұрын
@@claireclaire7986 i dont think they can make a vid abt that without people bashing at each other because their fav dancer isnt on there if yk what i mean
@unuboldlavien92813 жыл бұрын
Yall NingNing is only 18, imagine her in 5 years 😳😳
@jasmineelectraaliciawahono5023 жыл бұрын
a princess now, a queen later
@BOSS-nz2hw3 жыл бұрын
Imagine them in 5 years*
@juansebastiangonzalezperez86992 жыл бұрын
They are very young omggg
@Alexza5252 жыл бұрын
@@juansebastiangonzalezperez8699 You think 18 is young? Imagine when you hear that there are 13-14 year olds debuting.
@nikemaraje52 жыл бұрын
@@jasmineelectraaliciawahono502 _purr_ 👑
@cup_of_milk90133 жыл бұрын
Winter is definitely an all-rounder: visuals, vocals, and dancing. DAMN SHE HAS POTENTIAL
@sam4drita3 жыл бұрын
@@onion9486 yes all of em have potential. I am karina biased and I can tell all of the girls have amazing personality, talents and skills. I wouldn't be surprised if anyone of them r gonna be the 4th gen it girl of Korea :)
@sam4drita3 жыл бұрын
@@onion9486 Hmm, 'IT girl' kinda means like an allrounder female idol- Visuals, Vocals, Dance, Rap etc. Technically means like the more talent and skills you have, the more of an allrounder u r thus 'it girl'. I hope I explained it well >_
@stanizoneyoucowards85773 жыл бұрын
@@sam4drita I thought it girl/it boy meant someone who is adored by many and is the ideal girlfriend or boyfriend? I'm not really sure😅
@zzar92373 жыл бұрын
@@stanizoneyoucowards8577 yeah I thought so too
@kpop-tdoong69783 жыл бұрын
all are
@notmybusiness30553 жыл бұрын
Karina goes from being called stiff af by non fans to the best dancer in the group.....
@blessmeachoo36393 жыл бұрын
She's nervous, most people who called her stiff is the dance with Taemin. She's literally shaking on stage
@happiness46543 жыл бұрын
@@blessmeachoo3639 Its funny because those haters would not evem be able to do half as good as she did. People ought to stop bashing when they cant do half the sh*t idols do
@blessmeachoo36393 жыл бұрын
@@happiness4654 to add up. Karina has a life while those haters be sitting at one corner jealous of her success
@honedgenmaquiling64203 жыл бұрын
You can say that Ningning has the most energy in dancing that's why she is fun to watch and sometimes mistaken as the main dancer.
@ranjana5853 жыл бұрын
Her expressions and stage presence is also amazing
@persecell3 жыл бұрын
Karina not going as low could be to do with her height! In ballet you're taught to not go as low as others when you're taller because it can look comical in an outside perspective. Good analysis though!
@findingbrain65093 жыл бұрын
😯 someone also said that Karina might have a ballet or contemporary dance background, because the way she moves at the beginning of the song look a bit different to how a person who has a hip hop base would.
@animekpoplover20023 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes
@persecell3 жыл бұрын
@@findingbrain6509 yep i totally agree! I've taken both ballet and contemporary dance and her lines are very sharp and precise as well
@yuqiidle7223 жыл бұрын
oh don’t worry, not going as low isn’t a technical issue. It’s pretty much optional, dancers add their style to the dances, they don’t need to be executing everything in the same way as the others.
@thatgirlnamedfangirl21433 жыл бұрын
YES
@fluffypocky3 жыл бұрын
the way ningning's energy and stage presence were so good that my untrained ass thought she would be second xD
@culturedswine40033 жыл бұрын
It’s the way the dance practice was only uploaded a few hours ago and you alr have this vid edited and uploaded. We stan dedication
@juamy23133 жыл бұрын
Aespa is so far the only rookie of the big 3 that has a vocal line that can compete with 3rd gen and with such an amazing dance line, I really do think they will dominate
@ajreyes12623 жыл бұрын
Well, it's an SM group so you better expect to see all of the members sing well. And of course you'll see an Ace(Winter, Seulgi)
@Deletemyselfgirl3 жыл бұрын
honestly NingNing caught my eye the most in the dance practice and she was the most intresting so i watched like only her the whole practice xd
@imlikett52933 жыл бұрын
Same! I was complete shocked when they named her 4th
@anonymousbleh87523 жыл бұрын
same bur i think it's because she has the best stage presence in the group while karina is the best dancer
@gotm46433 жыл бұрын
She is the best idol dancer in the group and Karina is the best dancer :)
@slaystinn2 жыл бұрын
Something that I like about her dancing is that she is developing to be a dancer with precise and sharp lines. Same with Karina who can develop sharp line because of her amazing angles.
@mariahlol2488 Жыл бұрын
@@gotm4643 she isnt the best idol dancer tho
@twwuwu75273 жыл бұрын
Solo stans need to watch this, I'm just so mad that they are starting to disregard Karina as the main dancer, the position given by the company because she is that worthy.
@manikaadhikari32413 жыл бұрын
Don't worry one day karma going to hit them hard
@yynwi3 жыл бұрын
*_I love the way Karina performs, she has a beautiful height and-- AAH idk, she's just so cool._*
@marcobagao77573 жыл бұрын
IKR
@shiningyoonie3 жыл бұрын
she's 167cm but she looks so much taller than that right?
@pessimisticcatto11213 жыл бұрын
@@shiningyoonie wait that means im taller than her-- i dont even look tall
@lourenrose19673 жыл бұрын
I love watching Giselle's fancams. She makes a really cute smile idk lol I love her.
@cassie88443 жыл бұрын
Yess like a hamster
@tifzu_3 жыл бұрын
Fr she’s so cute🥰🥰🥰
@zack71223 жыл бұрын
i noticed that too! ♡
@88Manel883 жыл бұрын
Nothing better than seeing someone enjoy what they do, that's why I love watching Giselle and Wendy
@lourenrose19673 жыл бұрын
@@88Manel88 True! And both are my biases
@missjung3103 жыл бұрын
karina is obviously the best dancer (and i am a dancer myself) plus she is the group's main dancer so it's given. at least acknowledge her skills for once. i'm kind of tired seeing comments that refuse to acknowledge her. she's the BEST DANCER in their group and no opinion can change that. PERIODT. at least give the girl the recognition that she deserves. yall think sm would play around and give her the main dancer position without her being good enough?
@VoAmy3 жыл бұрын
I agree with this!!! No one ever talks about Karina’s dancing even though she’s the main dancer! Like at least acknowledge her please? So many people are discrediting her skills! :’(
@thatgirlnamedfangirl21433 жыл бұрын
AGREED. They all discredit her just to lift up their bias 🐣
@no-gl8nj3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I'm so tired of it. I feel like everyone is trying to deny Karina's presence in the group. But she really stands out!
@minttchocs3 жыл бұрын
Her dance really stands out, my eyes cant stop looking for her. :)
@missjung3103 жыл бұрын
@@no-gl8nj true. everyone wants to ignore her presence just because she's the center and that's called jealousy.
@nee29923 жыл бұрын
all the members are really talented one by one, they have no joke. But I just want to add a little info about Giselle: she has the shortest trainee time among the members, having trained only for 10 months. And she’s already the main rapper and the third one in dancing and I think she’s dancing is really good. She has a big potential
@diorteez84053 жыл бұрын
although she was signed in sm for only ten months prior to debut, before that she trained independently! idk how long tho but yeah she's really talented
@talkingtoawall51233 жыл бұрын
She was in a choir for like 10 years (feel free to correct me if im wrong) so her vocals won't be bad too
@shrishti_27103 жыл бұрын
@Mary everyone's opinion is different but i respect your opinion too
@moonlightespt38182 жыл бұрын
She's 4th in dancing but yeah is still insane how she only trained for 10 months and managed to be this good.
@zookey77013 жыл бұрын
Winter is the ace y'all, we stan
@kaeyastoe31253 жыл бұрын
Idk I still have to get to like her she's my least fav right now but I love her! Edit: She's my bias wrecker now 💕
@owiajsjannaa3 жыл бұрын
Nah i think NingNing is more of an ace tbh
@yerinhwaj32503 жыл бұрын
karina too i mean, vocalist, rapper and dancer!!
@nat21353 жыл бұрын
all of them are aces
@lizyu36713 жыл бұрын
@Red Rose An ace is like an all rounder, they can dance, sing, rap, and they’re a visual as well. :) Basically, the full package.
@alysiusgabrielmosquito67793 жыл бұрын
eventhough ningning's last i still love her expressions whenever she dance
@ilychu22033 жыл бұрын
Even though giselle and ningning are last i like their stage presence more. They have the best stage presence in the group in my opinion
@si_multifandom_ch_50993 жыл бұрын
My prediction: Aespa going to be one of 4th gen group that full with powerhouse dancer, powerful singer and probably powerhouse rapper too in the future.
@User639093 жыл бұрын
I agree with vocals and maybe rappers but about dancing they are average for a rookie group. Anyway is understandable because they are more a vocal group and damn their vocals are on fire
@itsmepotatogrande93353 жыл бұрын
I agree with the singers because you know sm vocalists are strong
@itsdomd0misticn00b73 жыл бұрын
I agree in vocals, but not in rap, idk about the dance but im sure they are above average in terms of dancing, or probably enter in the top 3 best dance group too
@chringchring74513 жыл бұрын
Their dancing is average and tbh SM's girlgroups are never strong in dancing (they have very good invidual but not so much as a whole group). As far as I know, Ningning vocal isn't as good as Wendy or Taeyeon, maybe as the same level as Lia from ITZY but let's see more in the future
@itsmepotatogrande93353 жыл бұрын
@@chringchring7451 for a 4th gen group ningning's voice is strong but they just debuted they are still improving
@mariannebec98713 жыл бұрын
Karina edges are so beautiful that I'm about to cry tbh
@fa38643 жыл бұрын
Karina is the best dancer by far.
@mess69693 жыл бұрын
Ofcourse she's the main dancer'
@maddi87993 жыл бұрын
I agree. Her dancing is also very attractive.
@langgasheke3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Giselle has amazing stage presence imo. Her expressions and also Ningnings are very attractive, Giselle smiles when she dances which I think is a +
@kokolio44533 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention they're really GOOD PERFORMERS i live for their facial expressions especially Winter
@leticiawithu45243 жыл бұрын
Hey, I wanted kindly ask if you could do this style of video with the japanese JYP girlgroup 'NiziU', I know is kinda weird ask this, I mean, it is jpop, but I think the girls have great dance potential and I wanted to see what you think about them if isn't ask too much
@ashray53263 жыл бұрын
True I want to know as well
@jo_valentinot3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see Mako and Rio being Top 2 🥰
@Mi-tb5tl3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you but i just wanted to point out that Giselle has been a trainee for less than a year!! So i *know* she is going to improve and i'm really looking forward to it!
@Cheffamily3 жыл бұрын
This is the comment I've been looking for!
@lovemimities74703 жыл бұрын
Karina is such a great dancer!
@elishasweetgirl3 жыл бұрын
ikr
@lucas-kf2xt3 жыл бұрын
also this is more impactfull when you realize that aespa is more like a vocal group than a dance group like all the 4th gen groups but all of them are dance material, so aespa 4th gen ace
@calling.moon.twelve3 жыл бұрын
Ningning reminds me a lot of Joy bc she's not the best dancer in the group but she has some of the best stage presence in my opinion. I watched fancams of all the members several times and there's something about Ningning's facial expressions and confidence that stands out. I find her fancams the most interesting to watch. Also an odd thing I've noticed about that drop move in the chorus that's like the Itzy move, here in the dance practice everyone moves their head with it. They all do like a hair flip as they move but in performances Karina and Winter don't really do it. I wonder if that's a purposeful change and if so what the reason is for it. I think the move looks cooler with a hair flip.
@VV-gk7dd3 жыл бұрын
Agree on red velvet joy she was always on point when it comes to executing the songs thats why she always still standout.Charisma.
@dailyms213 жыл бұрын
Yeah for the hair flip I also was surprised that they don’t do it in performances, but I read some comments saying that maybe because of the hairstyle?? Idk but I wish they would do it more often
@kpoprmec3653 жыл бұрын
Its because of the hair style that is why you can't see them doing that hair flip. But if you watch their dance practice you can see that Karina and Winter is doing that because their hair is tied up.
@ajreyes12623 жыл бұрын
Oh Joy doesn't have a great stage presence.
@calling.moon.twelve3 жыл бұрын
@@ajreyes1262 I'm not sure if you're a troll or maybe just a Joy anti but she actually has excellent stage presence! She's very expressive and charismatic. She's able to change her expressions to fit many different styles from cute to sexy to elegant. It makes her a very engaging performer. Go check out some of her fancams if you'd like!
@doserina3 жыл бұрын
One thing that I would want to point since I watched their fancams etc. They all are good dancer. But, what's making Karina centre/main dancer is the details in her dancing. She never miss a simple head moves, like other members tend to miss it, probably bcoz it's such a small gesture. It's same thing with Kai. Love shot dance especially. Kai did all moves without miss. It's the details in dancing. I really love that from main dancer.
@samsricatjaidee4053 жыл бұрын
If Karina trains so hard like Seulgi unnie does, she will be a top level dancer in Gen 4. She has a good body shape and really beautiful dancing in her pocket now.
@michaellaandrei3 жыл бұрын
ningning and giselle could be a lead dancer in other groups. their first choreography (black mamba) is difficult. you should really be flexible and more controls to your body. aespa will be one of the 4th gen groups who will dominate this generation. aespa, fighting!
@hridita16093 жыл бұрын
Forggstans: *uploads* me: *drops everything and clicks on the video* also me: *cries when she realized she got noticed by forggstans*
@nouraa.99583 жыл бұрын
i read that as frogstans
@lavenderblum68983 жыл бұрын
@@nouraa.9958 If I didn't see your comment I would probably read all of them as frogstan
@DP-mv7ph3 жыл бұрын
Ningning is not a really good dancer but her stage presence really makes up for it! Her facial expressions are so good 😫
@ilychu22033 жыл бұрын
She is a good dancer. She even said it in the video. But i agree her presence is amazing
@lalisa78653 жыл бұрын
She’s a good dancer and had so much potential imagine shes only 18.
@alanbalcarcel58503 жыл бұрын
Lmao she is a really good dancer
@themecore13 жыл бұрын
I joined the Aespa fandom one week ago. I really thought that Ningning was the MAIN dancer, for her dancing skills, stage presence and also facial expressions. But then, I found out that it was actually Karina. But, Ningning is my bias :)
@yahirlegopez3 жыл бұрын
honestly I’m so done with all these new groups that are dancing focused, it’s nice how aespa seems to have a balance between vocals, rap and dancing. It does feel like the song is the main focus and the dancing enhances it, not the other way around
@russelljuderodriguez30863 жыл бұрын
Omg so true
@user-vw6ge2bo3u3 жыл бұрын
i would've personally ranked ning ning above giselle, because for me energy matters, but i'm not as experienced as you are so uhh yeah have a nice day
@anna-mooncrutzen34273 жыл бұрын
I can definitely see what you mean! But in the end, you can only cover up so much with energy. Practicing your basics and making sure your fundamentals are really good is going to make a difference in the end! :)
@yougotnojams75393 жыл бұрын
@@anna-mooncrutzen3427 ning ning have powerful energy but giselle is more flexible the way she wave her body is what a dancer needs to have but ning ning did a great job its just that giselle is more dancer than her (ps [skl] im a dancer since 5 yrs old that's why I know these things HAHAHA)
@yougotnojams75393 жыл бұрын
@Ale Alfini what do you mean?
@panner113 жыл бұрын
Yeah I tend to agree, though I think Giselle did much better here than in the existing stages. Like the op said, they are such different dancers. Overall, I prefer ningning, but if we're just going off this dance practice, I think choosing Giselle 3rd is very reasonable. There is still rather limited footage to work still right now, so I don't think anyone can make surefire claims.
@user-vw6ge2bo3u3 жыл бұрын
@@panner11 completly agree, like i preffered ning ning in the stages, but based on this dance practice, ye, giselle is on the 3rd place
@pahal42753 жыл бұрын
Karina really deserve main dancer position..i love her dance alot😍who say that she doesnt deserve the main dancer position..please meet me
@jeongzz38173 жыл бұрын
Also, I think Karina has really long limbs which is a nightmare for every dancers
@ilychu22033 жыл бұрын
Actually giselle has longer limbs than karina. But karina's are also long
@malikmalone55563 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I feel like I have to put more energy and power when I dance otherwise it'll look stiff or like I'm underdancing.
@aishalindsey13843 жыл бұрын
I think sm is gonna pay a lot of attention to Karina and Winter. Being the aces of the group a lot of companies do that. Like jyp is with yeji and nayeon or yg with Jennie and Lisa.
@imasaiko_2 жыл бұрын
Now they both are in the project Girls On Top / Got The Beat haha
@aerinax8683 жыл бұрын
I guess because Ningning seems a bit more powerful(?) on stage than Giselle I originally thought she was the better dancer between the two.
@nyaya94133 жыл бұрын
Same
@panner113 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think as rookies, there is still a lot of variation in their performance. And so far, we only have 3 stages total they have done which isn't a lot of footage to work with. I think we'll have better evaluations once we see them a lot more.
@caterpillar5903 жыл бұрын
but Giselle have a better control than Ningning i think
@Ss-pb7bc2 жыл бұрын
I saw other channels rank Ningning 3rd in the same practice video
@KoroSensei_3 жыл бұрын
Winter’s technique and the way she dances remind me of Yoona.
@hliana65533 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with their footwork in the "I'm addicted" part? It seems like it's how the move is supposed to be performed...
@forggstans3 жыл бұрын
they aren't controlled properly. You can see Karina is the best one, but there are still times she loses control. The best way to dance is to put your entire balance in the point of your feet, just like the blonde backup dancer in the right
@hliana65533 жыл бұрын
@@forggstans Yeah I can see the difference. And I understand why it's not what it was meant to be after seeing the back-up dancers. But idk...I wouldn't call Karina's footwork bad....maybe mediocre.
@Haobinn3 жыл бұрын
@So What but then again they are rookies. She was obv given the title bcs she’s ultimately the best in the group. Ofc improvements can be made OVER TIME, y’all have don’t have to point the minimalist things. Bet if u didn’t watch dis video u wouldn’t have even noticed small things like that. But then again ur opinions ig
@shiningyoonie3 жыл бұрын
@@forggstans that part always looked awkward to me but I didn't know why hahaa. Now that you pointed it out and explained it, I know how it's supposed to look like. And is it kinda weird that all the girls did it wrong yet no one corrected them?
@TwBelgi783 жыл бұрын
@@Haobinn But what type of dance analysis would this be if they didn't tell us whats wrong with the moves even if its small?
@neoct31013 жыл бұрын
When I saw Ningning ranked as the 4th one I was thinking that how powerful Aespa's dance generally is cause Ningning with such amazing dance moves is 4th in this choreo. It shows that generally Aespa is an amazing group at dancing and there's no bad/weak dancer in this group.
@hey....24833 жыл бұрын
Karina every moves were on point... as a dancer she is very good.. she has powerfull moves and she suits dance too.... her every move was detailed carefully.... she did really fast and her move was on point too.... her control for her legs and arms are the best..... it looked detailed.... its true that she didn't lower her body than winter cause her height doesn't allow that much.... it would look bad. Her control is amaizing.... its pretty clear that she is main dancer...... She deserve that too..
@jamiami87203 жыл бұрын
In my Opinion. 1. Karina 2. Ningning and Winter 3. Giselle
@tanin18623 жыл бұрын
Agree
@MrLontro3 жыл бұрын
Ningning is my Bias, in my opinion she has the best facial expressions and stage presence. Her voice is just INCREDIBLE! She can still improve a lot! All the girls are SUPER talented! Remember they are still Rookies! Don't compare then with more experienced idols.
@jimmycroni3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know the positions in Aespa but from the dance practice, I knew Karina was the best and a stand out. She gives me a cool Yeji vibe and I like it.
@lillacescore51183 жыл бұрын
For me my list was: 1. Karina 2. Ning Ning 3. Winter 4. Giselle
@azirynn3 жыл бұрын
🙂
@raihanahfarihan11763 жыл бұрын
Same😅
@Marimo9743 жыл бұрын
Saaame! We were fooled by Ningning 😂😂😂
@imlikett52933 жыл бұрын
MINE TOO✨✨✨✨✨✨✨! thank you so much I thought I was the only one
@lalisa78653 жыл бұрын
Yesss🔥🔥
@seulgientertainment57523 жыл бұрын
If we will talk about being the ACE member, it's definitely Karina. She's #1 in Dancing She's #2 in Rapping She's #3 in Singing She got all the skills plus her visuals which is undoubtedly SO GREAT. Plus, her stage presence is so overwhelming like she really deserves the center title because her charisma is flowing. She knows how to project in camera. Future IT Girl of 4th gen af. Some of y'all just hate her from the beginning that's why you can't accept it.
@crispyro69783 жыл бұрын
I trust SM putting Winter as lead vocalist after Ningning, they know what they're doing and not us but I prefer to wait to hear Karina singing first (she barely sang on black mamba)
@seulgientertainment57523 жыл бұрын
@@crispyro6978 Same! Knowing that her vocals are also great based on predebut.
@crispyro69783 жыл бұрын
@aespavelvet You should watch Karina predebut fame singing video. Girl can sing
@seulgientertainment57523 жыл бұрын
@aespavelvet Yes. Based on their melOn profiles and that korean site which I forgot, they even updated it and listed Karina as lead vocalist. Being in a choir doesn't necessarily mean you're really a good singer and I think that's the main reason why Giselle became the main rapper.
@crispyro69783 жыл бұрын
@@seulgientertainment5752 what did melon profile say? Karina as vocalist and that's it? I thought karina official position was sub-vocalist? Certainly SM is treating her as sub-vocalist on BM at least
@katiemadison98813 жыл бұрын
4th gen girlgroups from the Big 3 are really something 😮 And I also noticed that: • Itzy - more focused on dancing, but that doesn't mean they're bad singers • Aespa - more focused on vocals, but that doesn't mean they're bad dancers STAN THESE GG FOR CLEAR SKIN!! AETZY FOR THE WIN!
@doserina3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!
@Dalys_nya3 жыл бұрын
Itzy not Bad vocal Is better vocal and stables Not shy práctica stage Vocales stables(sorry my english My spanish)
@pessimisticcatto11213 жыл бұрын
idk i might be biased (but i really think im not) but when it comes to dancing, itzy is better but not that far ahead but when it come to singing, itzy cant stand close to aespa
@liamdollete16453 жыл бұрын
@@pessimisticcatto1121 yep. technically, only Lia in itzy can support vocals.
@blackpinkbestgroup80602 жыл бұрын
@@pessimisticcatto1121 nah, itzy dance line is way more better than aespa's dance. technically, the dance ranking will be- 1) chaeryeong 2) yeji 3) ryujin 4) Yuna 5) Karina 6) winter 7) ningning 8) Lia 9) Giselle in vocals the ranking will be- 1) ningning 2) winter 3) Karina 4) Lia 5) Giselle 6) yeji 7) chaeryeong 8) Yuna 9) ryujin in rap the ranking will be - 1) Giselle 2) ryujin 3) Karina 4) Yuna 5) the rest stage presence- 1) yeji, ryujin, Yuna 2) the rest lol
@artyp11273 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your videos! As a professional dancer myself it's nice seeing other dancer's opinion on this. Often fans don't have actual experience with dancing and just go with popularity so most videos on youtube are often very biased. Keep up the good work :D
@michaellaandrei3 жыл бұрын
i really love giselle's dance move in the 'ayayayayayaya' part.
@malikmalone55563 жыл бұрын
same
@gisellesmiddlefinger88453 жыл бұрын
She's the best in that part.
@MM-kj8os3 жыл бұрын
Aespa is crazy good, like I knew they were gonna have incredible vocals, but they shocked me by being talented dancer. They really have it all.
@jasmeen57123 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video because frankly, I didn't see why Karina was main dancer above Winter now I understand. I am just waiting to see more from them.
@sammiechu9493 жыл бұрын
personally, i like them more as vocal group than dancers
@victoriagiddins76653 жыл бұрын
This may sound biased but I honestly like the way Giselle dances. The energy in her dance moves may not be as big as Karina or NingNing but I like the vibe of it. I also like how as explained in the video that she doesn’t exactly try to hide what she has trouble on. It’s very authentic and it keeps me looking forward to her fancams because I can see constant improvement. Personally my second favorite dancer in Aespa next to Karina.
@caterpillar5903 жыл бұрын
omg same! and when i see your pp, then i understand, because baekhyun is my ult bias too. i have this kind of feeling when watching Baek fancam in 2012 and Giselle when she debuted.
@moonlightespt38182 жыл бұрын
Ningning is definitely better than Giselle
@renatalimaa.333 жыл бұрын
KARINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@leticiawithu45243 жыл бұрын
I love it this kind of video, I think is really interesting the idea of see the group improvemente and start following the dance skills since rookies
@chuu98592 жыл бұрын
After a year, I can see that Ningning is definitely not last in dancing. We've seen them dance Black Mamba, Next Level, Savage and Dreams Come True. I'd say Karina is number 1, her footwork is her strength but she can be stiff at times. Winter is definitely 2nd, Ningning is surprisingly good and has a great amount of energy when dancing so she's 3rd. For Giselle, I understand that she trained the shortest so it's understandable that she's lacking in dance. She always move slower than the others, it's noticeable since they're only four and it seems like she's doing some part of the choreo different the the others. Right now, I can't say aespa is synchronize when they dance together. They need to work on that but overall aespa have decent dancers. They're not bad like some people says.
@krystalangels78603 жыл бұрын
For me, the most important thing is that they have a good rap line and vocal line coz at the end of the day I'm just gonna be listening to their music
@pessimisticcatto11213 жыл бұрын
ikr. like once a toxic midzy said that if theyre just good singers then they shouldve just became a soloist like IU and i was like(????) gurl they literally make off money with their voices. u cant buy their choreos dafq
@imasaiko_2 жыл бұрын
Ikr people buys albums not dance practices
@lilies1843 жыл бұрын
karina makes me think of a ballroom dancer in her overall execution and tempo that’s really original for a kpop idol
@misfitnicss3 жыл бұрын
i think some problems come from their long limbs since it’s harder to control (giselle and karina) and i think karina’s foundation in dancing is ballet (like how she moves her arms and legs and point her feet) i could be wrong but it looks like it since hiphop definitely is not her strength
@thatgirlnamedfangirl21433 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Karina’s mistaken for being “stiff” I think its because of her body proportion and like what u said, ling limbs since she’s so tall esp side by side the other members who are short in comparison
@misfitnicss3 жыл бұрын
@@thatgirlnamedfangirl2143 right usually dancers with a ballet background tend to look stiff when dancing to other styles since ballet is a different discipline
@liamdollete16453 жыл бұрын
yes, I agree. I'm a dancer but not hiphop based however I can too. Winter is more of a hiphop based, However, Karina's moves and technique are greater and cleaner because ballet teaches discipline in dancing - that is pointed feet, good posture, and even the inclusion of head if necessary. That's why Karina has that extended limbs look.
@kaeyastoe31253 жыл бұрын
Karina my all rounder the IT girl
@Yoyoyoyoyoyo7183 жыл бұрын
This is kinda long, so bear with me :) I think in terms of dancing, they're the perfect example of an SM group, but 4th gen-ized? The standards of 4th gen groups in dance is rising and rising, but this dancing is what I would expect from an SM group; clean, concise, perfect example of a lead dancer, and a main dancer who has their own flavors in movements. If a JYP group danced like this, tbh I would expect more, but since its SM (whose main specialty isnt dance) they're perfect. 1) Ningning - ngl she really blew me away with her charisma and torso control like you said. If I compare her to Wendy (also a main vocal), I feel like they're at the same level, but she performs to 4th gen standards. If I compare her to other gg main vocalists of her generation: Izone, Itzy - I think she performs slightly better then Lia and is at par or slightly above Yuri. She's a great idol dancer. 2) Giselle - I was kind of disappointed by Giselle's dancing at first - since she's not the worst dancer, I expected her to have an extra oomph like ningning, but I love what you pointed out - she's a completely open dancer who under dances occasionally and doesn't hide it. Again, she performs better than Joy and Yeri (the 4th gen effect), but isn't really at par with Yuna. So I really hope to see more improvement, especially in facials. 3) Winter - Winter was a great surprise! Her technique is quite easy on the eyes and I enjoyed watching her dance. She's exactly what I expected from a SM 4th gen lead dancer - SM style movements, clean, crisp, and her facials are nice too. She seems at par with Irene, and with Ryujin as well. I'd love to see more of her flavour in dancing. But she is a little short when compared to Yena and Chaewon. 4) Karina! - Karina is such a great dancer and always extends every movement wonderfully. Again, she's a great example of an SM Main dancer, but I feel like the 4th gen effect was least in her, and I also feel like this choreo limited her in some ways. I'd like to see her do more solo dances where she can just unleash. I'm sure she will be equal with Chaeryeong and Yeji as time goes on, and Eunbi too. If you read this, thank you so much!!! Please comment something wacky in response to this comment. Stay safe!
@malikmalone55563 жыл бұрын
"...comment something wacky..." Well, if you say so, Gobble gobble gobble 🦃🦃🦃
@shersurewin3 жыл бұрын
And the fact that Aespa is more of a vocal-based group but seeing their dancing like this, is really impressive
@devakibhagwat61463 жыл бұрын
tbh the 'since its SM' thing only applies to groups like Suju, EXO and RV Their main/lead dancers are excellent but not every member is a dancer, but all their other groups are vocals+dance based (especially SHINee, F(x), NCT, SNSD)
@ajreyes12623 жыл бұрын
Irene is not at Ryujin's level, she's stiffer and doesn't put out as much energy
@lioneltd.77823 жыл бұрын
@@ajreyes1262 In this ranking Irene got rated 8.1 and Ryujin got 7.4 lol so I don’t know bout that
@PureHoneyBoo3 жыл бұрын
I thought NingNing was a better dancer than Giselle but your explanations were fair enough. I’m happy with their overall dancing skills, there is no weak member. Even if NingNing is the worst of the group she is an average idol dancer and definitely has so much potential to improve. Winter is a good lead dancer! And Karina isn’t the best main dancer but definitely has room to improve.
@cinema43163 жыл бұрын
Just saw Karina's dance in Knowing Bros. I was shocked to see how fluid, precise and sharp she is. Now i'm uncertain whether she was just given a bad choreography before (her dance teaser) or she has actually improved!
@mystericgadget59613 жыл бұрын
imo Karina isnt just the main dancer but she's also the best performer among them. In my opinion she's the true ace and deserves to be face of the group
@Acsv1223 жыл бұрын
I see that i don't understand anything about dancing when i genuinely thought Ningning was the 2nd best dancer, and she's last lol... Idk why but watching Ningning's and winter's fancams Ningning just seemed better for me
@leemia75173 жыл бұрын
I feel like the requirements to debut in KPOP has become increasingly more and more difficult, I feel like people forget in the beginning as rookies you don't have to be perfect at everything, they will learn as time goes on. As of now, I love the dance and song, can't wait to see more of them.
@ChloeTrankille3 жыл бұрын
I don't see what you talk about when discussing the move that look like Itzy
@tangerine64733 жыл бұрын
I don't either 🤔
@Faeriiexx3 жыл бұрын
The move where they go down in the chorus. Itzy often does that move in their choreos
@itsmepotatogrande93353 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i56YZLyJu668lJc.html 6:23 in this video you can see that chaeryeong's foot was tilted at an angle and was not stepped flat on the ground just like karina in black mamba's chorus whereas yeji and the other members kept their foot flat on the ground instread of the inner side of their foot. I hope this makes sense.
@julianna98823 жыл бұрын
the foot is supposed to be laying on it's side to make a diagonal line from hip to toe, but everyone (except karina and chaeryeong) does it wrong. they keep their right foot flat on their ground to balance better, but the weight is supposed to be completely on the other. it's not that noticeable but it's not as clean looking
@tangerine64733 жыл бұрын
@@itsmepotatogrande9335 ahhh thank you so much I get it now
@xinruzip3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did this ranking for aespa! Of course being a rookie group, they still have a lot to prove and to go , but your analysis is on point and is insteresting.
@chickennoodlesoup41552 жыл бұрын
As of 2022 I would say ningning now takes the number 3 spot she's honestly become a good dancer since debut
@serenamarks14023 жыл бұрын
Another important thing to take into account is that they are dancing as a group. SM seems to focus on having the dancers blend in with others instead of standing out and showing off their skill. So to see what they can do I think we will need to wait until we get individual dance videos
@chunghashubby28083 жыл бұрын
WHO'S YOUR BIAS IN AESPA? MINE IS WINTER AND KARINA
@DB-yi9os3 жыл бұрын
Same!!
@malikmalone55563 жыл бұрын
Same for me too! Karina (bias) Winter (bias wrecker)
This is how i would rank them too. The first time I saw them perform, I already noticed Ningning as one of the least skilled dancer in the group and Karina being the main dancer (note that i didnt have an idea about their positions). Ningning has good stage presence (every member does) but her shortcomings are more noticeable to me than Giselle. Giselle either has a way of blending in with the rest despite her flaws, or it's her strengths that covered up her flaws. But yeah, they're rookies so they have more room to grow
@icedmocha52643 жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching Winter's dancing the most. However, Giselle and Ning ning have a lot of potential to improve too. Ning ning especially
@user-di5uj5ft6m3 жыл бұрын
I personally feel like Giselle is a bit stiffer than NingNing lol. Just as you said, they have different dance styles, but I feel like Ning Ning compensates it with power. I also think Ning Ning is more flexible. But they are both really good and I love them sm
@hazelo21843 жыл бұрын
ningning really be doing the most tbh with her facial expressions and even the energy. it really counts as a dancer, cause in the end even a dancer with supposedly good technique with no energy is boring to watch. that's why people's eyes are drawn to ningning in a dance practice. i don't agree with the ranking
@OdeToAphrodite3 жыл бұрын
This is my exact ranking, and I'm glad an actual dancer agrees with it since I'm not one and just go with what I see and whatever little knowledge I posses about dancing. Great video as always!!!
@tasharay30713 жыл бұрын
Well in dance practices , i like to watch Ningning dance more than the other members😆😆Other members is also good but Ningning stood out
@Marimo9743 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm way too biased 😂 I was pretty sure that Ningning was 2nd or 3rd (even though, in this dance practice, she's 1rst in my heart ❤ haha ) but we all know that Karina's the best!
@Christina-uo3xn3 жыл бұрын
I also thought Ningning is at least 2nd. Because she was the one who stood out the most for me, she could cought my eyes. She is definitely the best performer and the best in facial expressions.
@tifzu_3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Also it amazes me how none of the members don’t lack when performing/dancing. Like in other groups you can see who isn’t a dancer or just isn’t as good at dancing as other members (I don’t mean it in a mean way) but with AESPA Karina looks like the main dancer (which she is), Winter looks like the lead dancer (which she is), and Giselle and Ningning give you lead dancer vibes which I think is great. They’ll definitely get better in no time.
@eila30033 жыл бұрын
I really liked the video! I'm a dancer as well and I agree with your analysis and I hope you'll make more videos like this
@neyir_1863 жыл бұрын
My opinion 1 KARİNA 2 WİNTER 3 GİSELLE AND NİNGNİNG
@kimchinariran22573 жыл бұрын
I think that it will be like: 1. Karina 2. Winter 3. NingNing 4. Giselle
@yukdipick90863 жыл бұрын
yea, i thinks ningning be higherr! bcs she dance so powerfull
@Yan_Nay053 жыл бұрын
I didn't see that coming,i didn't know that will do this video so early,but I love it
@haneoy63583 жыл бұрын
Karina she main dance
@cabbagejuice3 жыл бұрын
As you said karina has good fluidity, how to you feel about tons of ppl complaining that shes stiff? I didnt see you mention that so i wanna hear your take on it. Imo im not a dancer but that was rly overkill... every time karina was talked about her "stiff" dancing was mentioned in a harsh way and ppl excused it by saying she needs to improve but literally everyone and their mother was talking about it. Like it aint that serious, you dont need the whole community to tell someone theyre a bad dancer bc of 1 thing
@shiningyoonie3 жыл бұрын
I think that she was a bit stiff during her dancing with Kai and Taemin and also in the teaser video, but obviously she seems like she has improved so now she's better and not stiff anymore ^^
@thatgirlnamedfangirl21433 жыл бұрын
I didn’t think she was stiff in her dance with Kai tho
@janna78433 жыл бұрын
i kinda want to see Karina dance to songs like Chungha's Gotta Go or Snapping idk why i kinda think it will fit her more...imo
@vita123abc3 жыл бұрын
I've learned a lot by reading your comments. I went straight to your other videos especially the ITZY ones. For your future project might I suggest analysing Secret Number's Got That Boom routine? They just released their dance practice video a couple of days ago and there are plenty of fancams from music show performances. Secret Number's fans devour everything and I'm sure they will really appreciate a professional's opinion on the choreo. I'd love to see the individual dancer rankings also like you did with ITZY and BP. Thanks for reading 🙏🏼
@ShawolB2uty213 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a question for you since you’re a dancer : do you think Karina has had some sort of formal technical dance training like ballet? I’ve seen this theory float around, but I’m not a dancer, so I don’t know.