Ranking EVERY NFC Team by Tiers

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@MFBloosh
@MFBloosh Жыл бұрын
Bears are a weird one because they did have the number 1 overall offense for half the season last year, but their defense gave up the most points per game BY FAR after the Smith and Quinn trades. Now that they've gotten replacements in Edmunds and Edwards, addressed the O Line, and beefed up the defense, on top of giving JF1 more weapons like DJ Moore, the Bears are in a position to do great. The Vikings won 11 games by one score last season. The Bears lost 8 games by 1 score last season. Those statistics could've easily been switched making the Bears a wildcard team, and their offseason has been one of the best out of all the teams.. I'm extremely excited to watch them play. Week 1 against the Pack? Let's go!
@MustacheDLuffy
@MustacheDLuffy Жыл бұрын
If the Bears actually have the number 1 offense for half the year they will be hyped up a lot more. It was 4 games. A little less to pretty much 1/4 of the year
@kghostthegreat
@kghostthegreat Жыл бұрын
The packers ended 12 games within 1 possession. They were 7-5 in that stretch. Of that stretch includes the Eagles game shockingly enough, even though they lost. If the packers were to undefeated in their one score games, they would have won 13 games for the 3rd season in a row, and won the division. Had they gone winless in the one score games they would have lost 16 games, firmly slotting them the #1 pick. Thing is they were merely average, not really on either extreme and finished middle of the pack. My point? They could do exactly that again, with a weaker schedule and playing the NFC South. We may see 3 NFC North teams in the playoffs this year with my expectation of the Vikings finishing last in the division for once.
@theapologist6717
@theapologist6717 Жыл бұрын
They also had a historically brutal schedule last year.
@prodbyktee
@prodbyktee Жыл бұрын
@@kghostthegreatthe packers have no offense anymore and j love has almost zero experience they might be decent but idk about playoff worthy if they werent even playoff worthy with a top 15 QB of all time
@rainyday8921
@rainyday8921 Жыл бұрын
@@kghostthegreathaha, vikings finishing last is such a clown take
@twig-e6431
@twig-e6431 11 ай бұрын
The playoff teams I have are: - Lions - Eagles - Cowboys - Giants - 49ers - Seahawks - Saints - Bills - Jets - Dolphins - Chiefs - Bengals - Ravens - Jaguars I don't think there will be many changes than last year, unfortunately.
@HerrKluenzae
@HerrKluenzae 11 ай бұрын
Possible, but highly unlikely...
@paulmayer8654
@paulmayer8654 Жыл бұрын
Compare the Lions last 10 games to the last 10 games for the top 3 teams from each Conference, and you realize how good this team really is. Only SF had a better record against playoff teams (4-0) and a better point margin against playoff teams. SF had a point margin of +14.75/ game. Detroit was 3-1 with an average point margin of +11.75. Cincinnati was +11.67 (3-0), Dallas +11.25 (3-1), Philly +9.67 (2-1), KC +6 (3-1),and Buffalo was +0 (1-1). Detroit arguably improved its roster in the offseason more than any of those other teams as well. They belong in that top tier discussion. Objectively, Kyle is right about them being a top 5 team at the end of the season.
@unreal2005
@unreal2005 Жыл бұрын
We would of won the superbowl, if it wasn't for brock getting hurt. Im telling you, the niners haven't caught a break in 30 years
@Michael-uu7zq
@Michael-uu7zq Жыл бұрын
@@unreal2005 ya still would have lost to the eagles, it just would have been more entertaining instead of a blowout
@DetroitLionsStuff
@DetroitLionsStuff Жыл бұрын
Detroit isn't "Hovering or TBD" the Lions are Big Dogs, and that's facts. They were wondering how Lions could be a tier above the Giants... well, they beat the Giants on the road and held Barkley to 25 yards. Lions are Big Dogs only behind the Eagles. 49ers don't even know who their QB is at this point.
@MushiePuppet17
@MushiePuppet17 Жыл бұрын
I'm all aboard the Lions train! Take over the NFC North, it's your time.
@joeschmoe233
@joeschmoe233 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, but I don't think they win the division if Minnesota's defense improves. Everyone wants to take a dump on them because of Cousins, but the dude plays great in regular season so I'm not convinced.
@chappie_nottherobot
@chappie_nottherobot Жыл бұрын
Did Lenny really say Gronk? Does Gronk even play for the Bucs anymore…?
@vante474
@vante474 Жыл бұрын
😂 he's totally out of his depth smdh
@meech6848
@meech6848 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment! Replayed it like 5x too
@emptysoul2757
@emptysoul2757 Жыл бұрын
His IQ is too low for this….
@kittylarkin1236
@kittylarkin1236 Жыл бұрын
I forgot he ever played for the bucs 💀
@MystC909
@MystC909 Жыл бұрын
Lmfao dudes been out of the league for 3 years next season
@trevonlynum2785
@trevonlynum2785 Жыл бұрын
dallas be hovering every damn year! 😂😂
@johnbox271
@johnbox271 Жыл бұрын
... as they should be.
@aidenrokez8629
@aidenrokez8629 Жыл бұрын
Cowboys got a top 5 roster there just always choking in the playoffs.
@aidenrokez8629
@aidenrokez8629 Жыл бұрын
Dak Prescott, Tony Polard, Ceedee Lamb, Brandon Cooks, Micheal Gallup, Zack Martin, Demarcus Lawrence, Micah Parsons, Trevon Diggs, Stephon Gilmore, Tyron Smith, Dante Fowler Jr, Jayson Kearse.
@zaxes3784
@zaxes3784 Жыл бұрын
@@aidenrokez8629 take Dak outta that list. Man is extremely average
@gavenskyles-jones7086
@gavenskyles-jones7086 Жыл бұрын
As a Seahawks fan, to say we have a great defense is laughable. At least in the run category
@cameronzwicke5761
@cameronzwicke5761 Жыл бұрын
They had the 26th ranked defense last year that not anywhere close to being great.
@gavenskyles-jones7086
@gavenskyles-jones7086 Жыл бұрын
@@cameronzwicke5761 exactly lol
@vbmelchor
@vbmelchor Жыл бұрын
I mean, the secondary is phenomenal. Linebackers are decent. This season will come down to how good DreMont Jones and Cam Young are
@juandoe2994
@juandoe2994 11 ай бұрын
Dudes seeing seaghosts
@ozzie2826
@ozzie2826 11 ай бұрын
I mean kinda but not rlly we got Bobby back we drafted a very good LB we got jones and our secondary is incredible with those editions that could help the run defense sooo
@SeanH212
@SeanH212 Жыл бұрын
I really have trouble with the Vikings and Giants. Vikings because they were real frauds last season, their defense was terrible and don't forget they are the first team to win 13 games and have a negative point differential. And the Giants I still don't trust Daniel Jones I just don't Barkley is the top guy on that team without him I don't think they make the playoffs last year despite Jones playing well
@YamomzBB3
@YamomzBB3 Жыл бұрын
Shut up
@danielbailey9049
@danielbailey9049 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I think the Lions are more likely to win the North tbh but it’s still really hard to say at this point
@cosmicnomad8575
@cosmicnomad8575 Жыл бұрын
I pretty much agree as a Vikings fan. There is a lot of stuff that needs to be fixed before we are true contenders, especially on our defense. The Lions are probably the most likely to win the division next year, though I would put the Vikings as second most likely. I wouldn’t mind the Lions winning though tbh, I would prefer the Vikings to win it, but the Lions rarely get the spotlight so I’d be happy for them, it would be way better than the Packers winning
@alfiebruce8998
@alfiebruce8998 Жыл бұрын
Also the Giants were the luckiest team in the league last year. They can hang around in games with any team. But could have easily been a 6 win team last year. Thats also been proven by the metrics those football nerds use. Which you cant argue with. Could be wrong, but they look up and coming to me and need a few more additions.
@thewavyprince5691
@thewavyprince5691 Жыл бұрын
Vikings are frauds every year. They are a TBD team
@Lycan4647
@Lycan4647 Жыл бұрын
Heading into this season the top 3 teams (on paper) are the 49ers, Eagle's, and Cowboys with teams like the Seahawks and perhaps even the Lions being wildcard contenders
@tulpfiction9522
@tulpfiction9522 Жыл бұрын
So just l8ke last year
@Lycan4647
@Lycan4647 Жыл бұрын
@tulpfiction9522 Baiscally yeah 😂 except this year people know the Seahawks will be good and once the lions get guys like Jameson back they'll be looking real solid themselves
@kirschfilms
@kirschfilms Жыл бұрын
I feel like Giants can be wildcard contenders as well
@Lycan4647
@Lycan4647 Жыл бұрын
@kirschfilms Oh absolutely they can if I had to pick all 7 teams it would be the 5 I just listed plus either the Vikings or the Giants. And I have the Saint's coming out of the south
@Vegetado
@Vegetado Жыл бұрын
Right cowboys definitely big dogs tho
@TheMemerMan4205
@TheMemerMan4205 10 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed Lenny on the show I hope he comes back more and more and possibly become a regular
@brianhoward2476
@brianhoward2476 Жыл бұрын
The Giants Disrespect from Kyle Brandt and this panel
@lordvader706
@lordvader706 Жыл бұрын
Ffr how are the giants always brought up in bs.
@exf20
@exf20 Жыл бұрын
I'm definitely waiting on my Commanders to see what Howell will do. He wasn't at his best & made it look easy against The Cowboys. Now, we have Bieniemy as our coordinator! It's gonna be crazy!
@DaManAbove
@DaManAbove Жыл бұрын
Eagles fan, Respect to you guys brother, love the battles with Washington because it's NEVER easy playing you guys. Washington ALWAYS brings it, and wouldn't shock me to see them at the top soon although I HOPE that doesn't happen lol.
@davidwesterberg375
@davidwesterberg375 Жыл бұрын
And you finally have a capable ownership group. Things are looking up!
@exf20
@exf20 Жыл бұрын
@DaManAbove respect to them Eagles as well my brother. That was a helluva Super Bowl that any team could've won that.💪🏾
@exf20
@exf20 Жыл бұрын
@davidwesterberg375 much appreciated fam. I'm definitely happy about that!👏🏾
@davidwesterberg375
@davidwesterberg375 Жыл бұрын
@@exf20 A good Washington franchise is just what the NFC-East needs! This from a Cowboys fan. Good luck.
@MrHumble22
@MrHumble22 Жыл бұрын
Swap the lions to hovering & Vikings to TBD & it’s straight !
@MikeCheckVR
@MikeCheckVR Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣 cap
@roderickburrell2060
@roderickburrell2060 Жыл бұрын
The Lions should be in Hovering. They finished 8-2. They're picked to win their division, and they're better than the Vikings and Giants, easily.
@craigpridemore7566
@craigpridemore7566 Жыл бұрын
In these segments, Jamie has really grown on me. She's good in an argument!
@lazeruslaz5724
@lazeruslaz5724 Жыл бұрын
most women are
@Hi-eo6ef
@Hi-eo6ef Жыл бұрын
feel bad for lenny cus he can’t say too much abt any team bc he’s trynna get signed by them😭
@EagleSZN678
@EagleSZN678 Жыл бұрын
Giants are in "To Be Determined" bc of what the Eagles did to them but the 49ers are in "Big Dogs" when the Eagles did them just as bad???
@HerrKluenzae
@HerrKluenzae 11 ай бұрын
9ers lost their third QB of the season and couldn't throw the ball for the second half of the game... So not really comparable!
@EagleSZN678
@EagleSZN678 11 ай бұрын
@@HerrKluenzae They lost em? U say it like the QB's Google Maps app stopped working. Na, the 🦅's historic D Line took him out the game.
@HerrKluenzae
@HerrKluenzae 11 ай бұрын
@@EagleSZN678 They hit Purdy one time and it wasn't even a big hit. It was just unlucky that he got hurt... So unfortunately for all who just wanted to see a good game, it was over at that point. And if that was a historic eagles DLine, then what was the chiefs OLine? After all, they manhandled them pretty easily in the super bowl...
@EagleSZN678
@EagleSZN678 11 ай бұрын
@HerrKluenzae who hit Purdy?....Exactly! Why have a backup TE lined up on Reddick?? #bad49ersplaycalling We can go back and forth for months on what's lucky or unlucky. We just have to stick to the facts that the Eagles beat the 49ers EASILY in the playoffs last year. It's a new year so anything can happen this year but last year, it wasn't even close.
@HerrKluenzae
@HerrKluenzae 11 ай бұрын
@@EagleSZN678 Again it was a normal hit, nothing special. QBs get hit far worse in almost every game they play, so it wasn't because the eagles defense was special or anything (even though they were pretty good last year)... So yes the eagles did beat the 9ers easily last season... But only because of an unlucky injury
@liftking6198
@liftking6198 Жыл бұрын
I’m a 9er and I agree with what they said I also have a lot of respect for the lions everyone thinks they’re underdogs but I know they are a good team.
@Jaxdrill
@Jaxdrill Жыл бұрын
"We can't put an entire division in Shock the World" Oh yes.. yes you can and it's definitely gotta be the NFC South at this point. Though the whole idea of to be determined is such a broad spectrum that you could easily have more teams than you do in there
@DumbAndDumberMC
@DumbAndDumberMC Жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice that they talked about the Saints, Bucs, a little about the Falcons, but just threw the Panthers in Shock the World and didn’t say a word about them? Just goes to show how little they actually care about us.
@QuilliamFancySon
@QuilliamFancySon Жыл бұрын
I think Chicago beats out the Vikings, Giants, and Rams to sneak in the playoffs with the final wildcard spot. They improved a lot, the only question is the D line but if they exceed expectations then I think they’re talented enough to make a post season appearance. Justin Fields has another milestone to add to his resume and gets the final nod as the guy in Chicago and should get everyone off his back who thinks the Bears could be looking for a QB in next years draft
@mattwilland3004
@mattwilland3004 Жыл бұрын
good for you 😂
@QuilliamFancySon
@QuilliamFancySon Жыл бұрын
@@mattwilland3004 You’re great at parties I bet lol
@primer3458
@primer3458 Жыл бұрын
They aren’t beating out the Vikes. They’ll split games if they are lucky
@QuilliamFancySon
@QuilliamFancySon Жыл бұрын
@@primer3458 Let me know how that worked out once we get to January 🤷‍♂️
@primer3458
@primer3458 Жыл бұрын
@@QuilliamFancySon Sounds good. Have fun missing the playoffs for the 4th year in a row.
@rickrussell498
@rickrussell498 Жыл бұрын
Seattle has a great offense, the defense is what held them back last year. The offense played amazing last year but the defense couldn’t stop anyone. If they can fix the defense and be a 17-12 ranked defense as long as geno plays like he did last year. The Seahawks could shock some people. Not Super Bowl ready but they could turn some heads
@Frank-ui3gh
@Frank-ui3gh Жыл бұрын
The dude thinks this is 2014, Jesus. Christ he doesn’t watch football.
@VinnyI6420
@VinnyI6420 11 ай бұрын
The NFC is wide open. The Niners need to rely on a healthy season from an injury prone RB and Bosa who's had his own injuries so far in his career. The Eagles are the Eagles for sure. The NFC North is mid af, the NFC South is mid af or worse. And the Giants do not scare me, so that leaves the Cowboys. Easily the 4 best teams in the NFC are Seattle, Niners, Boys and Eagles.
@samuelhiatt9338
@samuelhiatt9338 Жыл бұрын
Big Dogs: 49ers, Eagles Hovering: Cowboys, Giants, Seahawks, Lions, Vikings TBD: Commanders, Panthers, Saints, Falcons, Packers, Bears STW: Rams, Cardinals, Bucs
@samuelhiatt9338
@samuelhiatt9338 Жыл бұрын
For the AFC, Big Dogs: Chiefs, Bills, Bengals Hovering: Chargers, Jets, Dolphins, Jaguars, Ravens TBD: Broncos, Patriots, Texans, Titans, Steelers, Browns STW: Raiders, Colts
@Noctem_pasa
@Noctem_pasa Жыл бұрын
I think it’s less that the Bucs need to shock the world so much as BAKER needs to shock the world. I think he can, but he’s in a position where to earn his stripes he needs to punch above the weight he’s been playing at since leaving Cleveland
@twxstmusic4648
@twxstmusic4648 Жыл бұрын
Falcons are definitelyin shock the world, but for the fact everyone is sleeping on em. Brand new defense, as in 2 new DLinemen to take pressure of of Grady, Terrell n Okudah as CB's, Bates lll and Grant as safeties, so islands will be locked down. Went from having a top 3 running game, to SOLIDIFYING DOMINANCE in the run game, so gonna be top 3 AGAIN this year, and we lost 11-17 games by 1 touchdown... but everyone hates us because of Ridder. Because of this name alone, no one thinks we can be a contender... and tbh, they have better defense than the Saints, but that's just my opinion.
@djd7573
@djd7573 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t say it better
@ryanhoward6032
@ryanhoward6032 Жыл бұрын
Falcons trash
@twxstmusic4648
@twxstmusic4648 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanhoward6032 We'll see.
@Eli_Kessler
@Eli_Kessler Жыл бұрын
Fax
@Michael-uu7zq
@Michael-uu7zq Жыл бұрын
Wtf u talkin about losing 11 - 17 games by one touchdown, I only counted 7. Also, 5 outa ur 7 wins were 1 score games.
@conorreedR2C
@conorreedR2C Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's cuz I'm a Lions fan, but the Lions clocked both the Giants and Vikings by 11+ points towards the end of the year. I think it's kind of a joke those two are ahead of them. I can't feel good about that.
@joshuafischer4104
@joshuafischer4104 11 ай бұрын
Exactly
@devynparks7505
@devynparks7505 11 ай бұрын
i mean yall had a really bad start to the year its not that crazy lmao
@tysaandavid9885
@tysaandavid9885 Жыл бұрын
49ers r big dogs 😎
@3716anderson
@3716anderson Жыл бұрын
According to the hats, the Saints win the NFC South. When donkeys fly. Panthers have a better chance. Falcons have the offense. Bucs are treading water in Tampa Bay.
@signity6466
@signity6466 Жыл бұрын
Damn wtf was that shot at Lenny? Good on him laughing it off
@matthewrose8002
@matthewrose8002 Жыл бұрын
I see Chicago making a good jump up to the middle of the pack this year. With Fields at QB and lack of talent and injuries they were the 5th highest scoring offense in the NFL last year in the second half of the season. They improved that side of the balls talent and they improved a good part of their defense. Their issue will be the Dline this year as they don't have an edge that I can point to that will provide consistent pressure. They lost most of their one score games and they had quite a few of them (11 in total and 2-9). The middle of the dline is much improved from last year so they did improve their ability to stop the run. The linebackers are much improved as well as well as the secondary added depth to it. That should give them more chances to get teams to a third down but they need to prove it on the field to get there.
@VisualHighlights.
@VisualHighlights. Жыл бұрын
We had 7 games that were decided by 1 score last season, flip that around and we could have about 10 wins. We have a much better roster than last season so this upcoming season should be way better💯
@sethandrus785
@sethandrus785 Жыл бұрын
Fields is ass
@primer3458
@primer3458 Жыл бұрын
Still got a garbage O line tho 🤣
@joeschmoe233
@joeschmoe233 Жыл бұрын
They still have a few years, Fields is a one trick pony right now, he has to learn to pass first, run second.
@primer3458
@primer3458 Жыл бұрын
Chicago fans are so delusional. They think since they finally got some new weapons on offense their garbage defense will improve
@devinnutter9277
@devinnutter9277 Жыл бұрын
The AFC I think you guys got them all right. The NFC I don’t like 3-4 of the teams spots
@glimpse5038
@glimpse5038 Жыл бұрын
Packers should for sure be determined. If Jordan Love can play consistently the packers will do well. Jordan Love has shown glimpses of a top tier qb EDIT: BY TOP TIER I MEAN HE DOESN"T MAKE MANY MISTAKES AND CAN MAKE SOME PLAYS WHEN HE NEEDS TO. NOT MVP OR ANYTHING
@justinwenborn654
@justinwenborn654 Жыл бұрын
A bit disrespectful, same defence being earmarked for top 5 last year is back
@matthewrose8002
@matthewrose8002 Жыл бұрын
I haven't seen him show glimpses. The best showing he had was against a prevent look from the Eagles. The DBs were 5 yards off on all of the passes. He did make the throws to complete the passes and the WR did help him out by having a break away for a TD. I just don't see where the QB was all that great. I see him at best being a Jimmy G level talent QB. Good enough to get you to 10 wins or so but a liability on a team trying to win a super bowl.
@glimpse5038
@glimpse5038 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewrose8002 he's very up and down, and when he's doing well he's doing good. Thats what I mean by consistent.
@matthewrose8002
@matthewrose8002 Жыл бұрын
@@glimpse5038 Not replying on the consistency part. Replying to where you state he showed glimpses of being a top tier talent. I don't think Jimmy G has showed glimpses of being a top tier talent and that is what I see as the closest comparison to Jordan Love.
@kghostthegreat
@kghostthegreat Жыл бұрын
@@matthewrose8002Jimmy G wasn’t a liability in the 9ers last Super bowl run. The offense stopped playing aggressively and the defense crapped the bed.
@youhateev
@youhateev Жыл бұрын
Talking about Dallas ending the Bucs year off rip with Lenny right there is crazy😭
@Jayvon8
@Jayvon8 Жыл бұрын
Commanders so underrated Alot of people think there bad. Why is that? They were 8-8-1 last season thats one game off playoffs. They also didnt lose anyone good. They had a top 5 defense last season thats adding Emmanuel Forbes, Quan Martin and a Healthy Chase Young. They also got Chase Young, Montez Sweat, Kam Curl and Kendall Fuller all fighting for a contract. So I wouldn't be surprised if they had the #1 defense. Then on offense they just got the Chiefs OC Eric Bienemy. They already had very good weapons like Terry McLaurin, Jahan Dotson, Brian Robinson and Curtis Samuel and Antonio Gibson who will both be fighting for a contract as well. They also fixed up the oline getting multiple new starters. Sam Howell is a huge improvement over Carson wentz and Taylor Heinicke. Howell was great in college and only fell to the 5th after having a down year his final year after losing alot of his starting offense at UNC. He looked good in preseason and his only career start was a 20 point win over the cowboys where he had 200 yards, 2 tds and a pick. He showed off his big arm and his running ability. His ceiling is very high and with EB as his oc and a improved oline with very good weapons Howell is in a good situation. Sam howell doesn't even need to be very good if he can just be top 20 theres no way they dont make playoffs. They are also getting a new owner so if Ron Rivera and the rest of the coaches want to keep there jobs they gonna HAVE TO make the playoffs because if they don't with a new owner he's gonna make a lot of changes and Ron Rivera will more then likely get fired if they don't atleast make playoffs. I just see no way they miss playoffs with all that. They winning 9 games minimum
@DaManAbove
@DaManAbove Жыл бұрын
AS EAGLES FAN I AGREE, Washington actually has one helluva football team over there, and ended our win streak. I'm that Eagles fan that respects EVERY team in our division and understand clearly each year is different and any team can rise or fall, It's a tough group to compete against. Respect to them all, this is what makes the NFL EXCITING, someone in the top spot WILL fall and some team or teams in the shock the world will do just that.
@dylanpeck6816
@dylanpeck6816 Жыл бұрын
You have to go outside or some
@Jayvon8
@Jayvon8 Жыл бұрын
@@DaManAbove w Eagles fan. That's all facts.
@arabianprinceflyeaglesfly1700
@arabianprinceflyeaglesfly1700 Жыл бұрын
No way you wrote a thesis about the Washington Commanders
@savagelouie4498
@savagelouie4498 Жыл бұрын
Commanders are pretty fun team to watch
@venskus2009
@venskus2009 Жыл бұрын
The commandoes hate is unreal. We beat the eagles and the cowboys and we had almost the same record as the lions. We had the hardest schedule in the league last year. Again. And it looks like we might this year too.
@Bballin8103
@Bballin8103 Жыл бұрын
I love how much they all care about getting this exercise right. Jamie is literally dying inside over if the Vikings or giants belong in hovering or TBD. Lol
@come.n.get.yo.girl.
@come.n.get.yo.girl. Жыл бұрын
Big Dogs: 9ers, Eagles Hovering: Cowboys, Seahawks, Vikings TBD: Lions, Giants, Saints Other teams: Shock the world
@Michael-uu7zq
@Michael-uu7zq Жыл бұрын
Saints and bears should change spots
@Re_boot_ing
@Re_boot_ing Жыл бұрын
Bears could be in the “To Be Determined” category
@thebostons
@thebostons Жыл бұрын
I agree. They lost 7 games last season by less than a touchdown and they have greatly improved in the offseason.
@griffinpetty9344
@griffinpetty9344 Жыл бұрын
Panthers whooped the Lions near the end of the season
@89dhand
@89dhand Жыл бұрын
Sure did
@cheat_code2292
@cheat_code2292 Жыл бұрын
They just ignore that for Wtv reason 😭😭😭
@richardwize4460
@richardwize4460 Жыл бұрын
Rams should be in the Shock the World category, no doubt
@ungartothemax20166
@ungartothemax20166 Жыл бұрын
I think the Seattle Seahawks belong in the BIG DOGS category with the San Francisco 49ers and Philadelphia Eagles. Seattle’s 9-8 record last season was not a fluke in my opinion. Moreover, I think they’re going to build on that this season and get at least 10 wins. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Seahawks win the NFC West over the 49ers.
@cameronzwicke5761
@cameronzwicke5761 Жыл бұрын
Yet with only the 26th ranked defense, that they didn't try to make better and you think they belong in the big dogs category. Not until they can actually stop their opponents from scoring 30 points a game. They look great on offense, but horrible on defense. They won't win in the playoffs without a solid defense, look at the vikings and how they couldn't even stop the lowly giants offense from scoring 30+.
@santoshnandivada4059
@santoshnandivada4059 Жыл бұрын
@@cameronzwicke5761how exactly did they not try to make it better i don’t think you followed them very closely this off-season
@sinizter7821
@sinizter7821 Жыл бұрын
Maybe next season but not this one
@unreal2005
@unreal2005 Жыл бұрын
Lol, we got javon now, the niners are gonna stomp on them 2 times again this season.
@Michael-uu7zq
@Michael-uu7zq Жыл бұрын
⁠@@unreal2005old man gonna get gassed from running down the field after Geno throws another 30 dart on your team
@tomom2011
@tomom2011 Жыл бұрын
Falcons in shock the world? You guys aren't paying attention. We have an awesome offense, have improved on defence, and have the easiest games? Catch up!
@Rizzyscrub
@Rizzyscrub 11 ай бұрын
Exited this video as soon as they brought up the cowboys
@dominushydra
@dominushydra Жыл бұрын
North: Detroit South: Atlanta East: New York West: San Francisco Wild cards: Philadelphia and Seattle
@Michael-uu7zq
@Michael-uu7zq Жыл бұрын
Does dak get hurt again?? I would have expected the cowboys instead of the giants
@joshuafischer4104
@joshuafischer4104 11 ай бұрын
Woah why the giants??
@dominushydra
@dominushydra 11 ай бұрын
@@joshuafischer4104 Year 2 in Daniel Jones actually being coached right and Barkley out to prove something. D will show up. Whenever Philly gets crazy hype they fold under the pressure. Always happens.
@joshuafischer4104
@joshuafischer4104 11 ай бұрын
@@dominushydra but what about the cowboys?
@dominushydra
@dominushydra 11 ай бұрын
@@joshuafischer4104 Dak gets injured too often for me to take them seriously as contenders. Washington is going through a crisis of identity right now, they have a lot of good young talent though. Watch out for them next season. North 1. Lions 2. Vikings 3. Packers 4. Bears South: 1. Falcons 2. Saints 3. Panthers 4. Buccaneers East: 1. Giants 2. Eagles 3. Commanders 4. Cowboys West: 1. 49ers 2. Seahawks 3. Rams 4. Cardinals
@isaiahmembers2999
@isaiahmembers2999 Жыл бұрын
Watching this was painful because I disagree with most of the takes they made. Honestly, I would say 3 teams deserve to be in the hovering tier and 2 of them are actually in there. You might even argue 4 with me by moving one down from the Top Dogs (the 49ers and I'm a 9ers fan) and I'd be fine with it. The Falcons should be in TBD and most of the teams in Hovering should be moved down to TBD. Giants and Vikes are TBD because the Giants still have way too many question marks and the Vikings arguably got worse (arguments could easily shift to why they got better though). Lions have proven enough I feel comfortable talking about them the same way as the Cowboys and the Hawks in Hovering. A lot of the Shock the World teams could easily flip to TBD. But thats all just my opinion ig
@tylerhancock0215
@tylerhancock0215 Жыл бұрын
Giants should be higher, he got his little feelings hurt
@BigWillieStyle89
@BigWillieStyle89 Жыл бұрын
Tampa gonna be fighting for a top 5 pick, y’all crazy lol
@jokerj641
@jokerj641 Жыл бұрын
Lions should be at hovering. They were a top 5 team the 2nd half of the season. They went 5-1 in their division. Only lost was to the vikings which they should have won. They went to the Giants an spanked them 31-18 on the road. Lions had the 4th ranked offense last year an should be even better this year. They invested in their defense an i think they will be a top 12 defense this year. Another thing is Lions still have more money now than they did at the start of free agency. They have around 23 million i believe. I think they will add another really good player to this team before the season starts.
@ajflory21
@ajflory21 Жыл бұрын
Amen these people are crazy and I hope the lions show em
@89dhand
@89dhand Жыл бұрын
Panthers absolutely spanked them boys tho.
@jarednrnbrg54
@jarednrnbrg54 Жыл бұрын
@@89dhandyeah congrats on the highlight of your season. A good day for the Panthers and an off day for the Lions but this season it’s in Detroit and even you are lying to yourself if you think that’s happening again.
@89dhand
@89dhand Жыл бұрын
@@jarednrnbrg54 may be a lil closer... maybe lol. Yall better learn to stop the run cause we're pounding that rock even harder this year
@89dhand
@89dhand Жыл бұрын
@@jarednrnbrg54 and btw you're kidding yourself if you think beating the lions is the highlight of anyone's season yet. Yall ain't earned that at all
@kostajada3142
@kostajada3142 Жыл бұрын
Niners on top
@VinnyI6420
@VinnyI6420 11 ай бұрын
Based off what? Not knowing who their QB will be next season?
@derekharp2805
@derekharp2805 Жыл бұрын
Detroit vs Everybody
@Beardownsports
@Beardownsports 11 ай бұрын
Contenders: Eagles, 49ers, Vikings, Saints, Bears, Giants, Rams Pretenders: Lions, Seahawks, Cowboys Rebuilding: Cardinals, Packers, Buccaneers, Falcons, Panthers, Commanders Best Record: Eagles 13-4 Worst Record: Cardinals & Panthers 4-13
@cooper5451
@cooper5451 11 ай бұрын
To have the rams, lions, and saints above the Seahawks is just plain stupid cause they beat all three of them (rams beat twice.) Lions also made the playoffs too.
@ErlingEra
@ErlingEra 10 ай бұрын
Seahawks “pretenders”😂
@Beardownsports
@Beardownsports 10 ай бұрын
@@ErlingEra Until the Seahawks get a QB, they will be pretenders. Geno Smith had the 2nd most interceptable balls last year, trailing only Jared Goff for the most in the league. That's not sustainable.
@ErlingEra
@ErlingEra 10 ай бұрын
@@Beardownsports what kinda stat is that😂 he was a top 10 qb last season, that’s all that matters. Keep sleeping while we have an even better season than we did last year.
@ErlingEra
@ErlingEra 10 ай бұрын
@@cooper5451 this guys ball knowledge is horrendous lmao
@TJ-jx9hy
@TJ-jx9hy Жыл бұрын
Constant over rating of the bucs is crazy
@tjsumigray22
@tjsumigray22 Жыл бұрын
Jordan Love and the Packers are the definition of TBD!
@Tactical_Nuke0
@Tactical_Nuke0 Жыл бұрын
nice
@pyrovania
@pyrovania Жыл бұрын
Imagine getting paid really well to play games like this on video.
@kokoken1
@kokoken1 Жыл бұрын
I loved the back-and-forth of this discussion. If you concede the Lions are To Be Determined-plus, then I like Leonard's argument that the Bucs are Shock the World-plus, because the only real question mark is at QB, and Leonard believes Baker Mayfield will raise his game to meet the quality of the offensive people around him. But is there a clear-cut favorite (Bucs/Saints) to win the NFC South? I don't think so.
@icanmakeeverythingilovedie9861
@icanmakeeverythingilovedie9861 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I think it's the Saints. If I recall, Vegas would agree. I think the Saints have a few more question marks, but if those question marks turn into positives, I think there's a real argument that the Saints could be playing in the NFCCG. We're going to see what Carr truly is this season, imo. He's got a lot of talent with a lot of stability around him. A healthy Thomas/Olave/Shaheed could be a very dynamic group with a QB that can make the short and deep passes. Thomas is a question mark obviously, but Olave and Shaheed performed strongly with a carousel of quarterbacks. How much Kamara's suspension hurts is another question. I also think the OLine is also quite thin. There's decent depth, but they're an injury or two away from being a disaster. All healthy, I think the Saints secondary is top 3 three in the NFL. Defensive line and LB are super thin, but talented at the top - more for LB. There's another big question mark in coaching, but no more or less than Tampa's own situation, imo. Whereas the Bucs have less question marks, but their ceiling feels a lot lower mostly due to the lack of a clearly competent QB while the floor is likely a good bit higher. Evans (even if he rarely performs well against Lattimore.), Godwin, and Gage is a scary trio if Baker (or less likely, Trask.) manages to perform well at all. Not too sure what Tampa looks like at TE with Gronk (and Brate, no?) gone. OLine is still strong. Probably right there with the Saints. The front seven for Tampa is going to be what wins them games this season, imo. I think the secondary is good, but they can be had. They struggled even against an inept Saints offense last season. I don't think they're clear-cut, but I think they're clearer than any other team in the South is. At least for this season.
@seanblake7554
@seanblake7554 11 ай бұрын
I think 5 tiers would help this
@KylerGalore
@KylerGalore Жыл бұрын
The diss on the falcons is unnecessary. They had an amazing offseason and they are just looking at their head coach and qb, also I’m a Hawks fan.
@trentwise3762
@trentwise3762 Жыл бұрын
I know he is probably super nervous. But Lenny was kinda terrible with his takes. It felt like when you’re in class and someone is presenting a slide show and instead of talking about it, it mostly just read off what’s written on the board or just kinda gives a couple worded answer about each slide lol.
@exactly_4568
@exactly_4568 Жыл бұрын
Yes everybody!!! Sleep on the Giants. I like that watch this season if we stay healthy
@primer3458
@primer3458 Жыл бұрын
That Divisional game against Philly tells me everything I need to know about them.
@megalucario2282
@megalucario2282 Жыл бұрын
Vikings lost so many players in the offseason that It's not right to put them above TBD
@primer3458
@primer3458 Жыл бұрын
Who tf did they lose that’s gonna hurt them? Thielen, Kendrick’s and Pat Peterson were all garbo last year and Cooks is injured half the year every season.
@joaquimpayne1774
@joaquimpayne1774 Жыл бұрын
Let’s go nfl
@nikeboy1315
@nikeboy1315 Жыл бұрын
Go Niners
@brandonwoodward9515
@brandonwoodward9515 Жыл бұрын
I think they got the Lions right, but got the Giants, Vikings and maybe even the Seahawks wrong. The Vikings are not really seen as definitely better than the Lions. So they belong in the same tier. We are also not sure about who the Vikings are. Thats TBD. Same thing can be said about the Giants. The Lions also beat both these teams the last they met. Seahawks were declining towards the end of the season needing a FG in OT to beat the Rams, a team no one believed in at that point. However, division games are always tough and the Seahawks had a pretty good draft (though we will see if that translates). So I can see an argument for moving them down or staying at hovering.
@VinnyI6420
@VinnyI6420 11 ай бұрын
Seahawks also led the Niners at half in the playoffs. They also went from a great offense to an elite offense this offseason. They added to an already good secondary with signing Love and drafting the best CB in the draft, to pair with the best CB of last draft, Diggs and hopefully Adams, and others. Wagner is still one of the best run stopping LBs, Bush is looking more confident in his knee and having a good camp. Getting Reed back, and getting Jones are key picks ups, while drafting an athletic beast in Hall. Every part of the Seahawks has either improved, or stayed the same.
@johnsonstudiofilms
@johnsonstudiofilms Жыл бұрын
Hate to say it but Cowboys might be big dogs. They’re head and shoulders above the rest of hovering.
@Michael-uu7zq
@Michael-uu7zq Жыл бұрын
On paper yes but they play in the hardest division in football. U got the defending NFC champs eagles, a giants team that made it to the 2 round of the postseason and a really underrated commies team. The would have been big dogs if they played in the north or south.
@johnsonstudiofilms
@johnsonstudiofilms Жыл бұрын
@@Michael-uu7zq they’re also the cowboys and they find ways to screw it up either in the regular season or the playoffs haha
@joshuafischer4104
@joshuafischer4104 11 ай бұрын
@@johnsonstudiofilmsexactly
@VinnyI6420
@VinnyI6420 11 ай бұрын
These tiers are very weird honestly. Big dogs is fine, hovering is ok, but there needs to be another tier in between shock the world and TBD.
@rickymoreno3706
@rickymoreno3706 Жыл бұрын
I am the only one that heard Lenny mention Gronk as one of the Bucs weapons? Who's going to tell him? 😅
@Michael-uu7zq
@Michael-uu7zq Жыл бұрын
Don’t worry, in two years, he’ll start freaking out about Brady’s retirement.
@nicholaswoods4055
@nicholaswoods4055 Жыл бұрын
Tier 1: Eagles 49ers Tier 2: Lions Tier 3: Cowboys Vikings Panthers Tier 4: Everyone else
@SuperSolshy
@SuperSolshy Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@skylersellers8786
@skylersellers8786 Жыл бұрын
My team Atlanta falcons rise up ATL
@OttawaRocks
@OttawaRocks Жыл бұрын
Top Dogs: 49ers, Eagles. Hovering: Dallas.
@kevinmcdonald1917
@kevinmcdonald1917 11 ай бұрын
The Vikings are always “hovering”, just good enough to compete and not good enough to win it all. All of that means we keep drafting at #25 which gets us no one in the draft that can push us to the top.
@LuxiaTV
@LuxiaTV Жыл бұрын
Eagles 🦅
@datelineyesterday5395
@datelineyesterday5395 Жыл бұрын
Hawks are looking great
@cameronzwicke5761
@cameronzwicke5761 Жыл бұрын
Only o n offense, they did nothing to make their 26th ranked defense better.
@einundsiebenziger5488
@einundsiebenziger5488 Жыл бұрын
@@cameronzwicke5761 So drafting defense players at 5th (!) and 37th overall, not to mention mostly signing defense players in free agency is doing "nothing"?
@cameronzwicke5761
@cameronzwicke5761 Жыл бұрын
Rookies are a gamble, 1st round picks have only a 14% average of being starting quality players. It goes down for each round after that. Also signing 30+ year old FA will not make that defense better. So no I don't consider that making their defense better.
@codyryan9166
@codyryan9166 Жыл бұрын
Not surprised by good morning football hating the giants they always do but I don't care because I think there going to be good.
@MetaFourAerial
@MetaFourAerial Жыл бұрын
Commanders in shock the world? Crazy. Def at least TBD. Team has great talent. And EB.
@giuliani3570
@giuliani3570 Жыл бұрын
That guy holding Shock The World is horrible. Why do they have that guy on the show?
@stackzzz22
@stackzzz22 Жыл бұрын
Saints should not be “to be determined” in a lop sided division and i swear we will prove ourselves this season !
@NOLA_C3
@NOLA_C3 Жыл бұрын
That’s what I’m saying
@cameronzwicke5761
@cameronzwicke5761 Жыл бұрын
Not without Kamara they won't.
@NOLA_C3
@NOLA_C3 Жыл бұрын
@@cameronzwicke5761 we have the next Kamara behind him so even without Kamara for however long Jamall Williams and Kendra miller can do the same thing
@samuelhiatt9338
@samuelhiatt9338 Жыл бұрын
Lmao national media so biased towards the Saints. Theyre literally the third best team in the division. But we gonna put them a whole tier above Carolina and Atlanta? Also, the whole NFC South is extremely underrated. The Panthers, Saints, and Falcons have all made significant improvements. Imo all 3 of those teams belong in TBD with the only team in STW being the Bucs. But the media has to keep up this stupid narrative that the division is just historically bad when in reality it isnt. There could be 3 positive teams in this division. All 3 of those teams could get 9 or 10 wins.
@DeeSimsLP
@DeeSimsLP 11 ай бұрын
"Goff and Carr are the same player"? 😂
@TheTumultuousTor
@TheTumultuousTor Жыл бұрын
They really disrespecting the Falcons “very bottom of shock the world”
@ai.da.n
@ai.da.n Жыл бұрын
Commanders will prove everyone wrong
@Swedishthunder3
@Swedishthunder3 Жыл бұрын
Finallky
@matriculatethefootball
@matriculatethefootball Жыл бұрын
Regarding Baker Mayfield "I feel like he has it. If they coach him right, he can pull it off." "Ask the Rams" Ah yes, the Rams were so impressed with Mayfield's 1-3 performance that they let him go to the Bucs in the offseason.
@JLA203
@JLA203 Жыл бұрын
Hey, he was 2-3. Don’t disrespect my man Baker like that.
@matriculatethefootball
@matriculatethefootball Жыл бұрын
@@JLA203 He didn't start week 13 so he doesn't get the W according to stats. PFR says he was 1-3 with the Rams
@JLA203
@JLA203 Жыл бұрын
@@matriculatethefootball nah man that’s his signature game gotta give the credit
@Michael-uu7zq
@Michael-uu7zq Жыл бұрын
Do y’all remember that crazy love triangle between Baker, Seahawks and Panthers? Crazy times.
@matriculatethefootball
@matriculatethefootball Жыл бұрын
@@Michael-uu7zq I don't remember that at all. But I do think that Baker Mayfield would have the best season of his career if he played for Pete Carroll
@fredcalder2869
@fredcalder2869 Жыл бұрын
Realistically I don’t see how you can put the saints in to be determined and put the panthers in shock the world. When healthy, the panthers defense is scary. Add in the offensive additions and the fact that they just drafted this years highest touted qb prospect coupled with a star studded coaching staff, and I don’t see how you can say they don’t have the best chance to win this division. And yes, the saints defense is also scary good, but don’t expect a team that has an average qb, can’t keep their star running back out of legal trouble, can’t get their star receiver off the injured list for the past 4 years, and who’s coaching staff couldn’t pull an offense out of their rears with a tow truck, to beat out a promising Carolina team who already went on a hell of a run to end last season
@HerrKluenzae
@HerrKluenzae 11 ай бұрын
Its though to focus on the "offensive additions" if you lost your best offensive player...
@juandoe2994
@juandoe2994 11 ай бұрын
I like how they named the trash teams as "shock the world"
@ducduong87vlogs
@ducduong87vlogs Жыл бұрын
Jamie was really better than me
@notsoperfectdrummer
@notsoperfectdrummer 10 ай бұрын
Eagles went through Giants and a team without a QB to get to the SB, they’re not getting there this year 😂
@DPK210
@DPK210 Жыл бұрын
Keep sleeping on the G-Men 😉
@LuhJBroke
@LuhJBroke Жыл бұрын
Falcons,Panthers TBD, Saints Shock Tha World
@andrewgimble5265
@andrewgimble5265 Жыл бұрын
You got that backwards. The saints are definitely the best team in that division. Derrick carr is miles better than all the other qbs. The saints defense is maybe top 10 and they have weapons on offense
@2Falconny
@2Falconny Жыл бұрын
FAX GMF IS MAKING ME HATE THEM I SWEAR..
@89dhand
@89dhand Жыл бұрын
​@andrewgimble5265 the panthers literally swept them last year. Derek isn't that huge of an upgrade either.
@LuhJBroke
@LuhJBroke Жыл бұрын
@@89dhand man stfu with that, carr is way better than jamies, more accurate and all but it’s just josh had carr looking bed, carr more healthier as well we gonna see, listen week 17 yall one by 3 points and a fumble from olave, we had no MT,Latti,Ak,3OlineMen, and andy at qb just Watch buddy we definitely winning it
@LuhJBroke
@LuhJBroke Жыл бұрын
@@2Falconny i fw ridder I just don’t know about week 1-3 once it hit 4 he might click in and bryce gonna need time also, i think saints gonna win it all
@antoniofeaster7300
@antoniofeaster7300 Жыл бұрын
My niners should go against the bills in the Super Bowl it would be a good game
@bannhammer45
@bannhammer45 Жыл бұрын
Low-key if this was to happen, I would want both of em wearing their home jerseys for the fun of it being a game of red vs blue.
@PhoenixRiseup577
@PhoenixRiseup577 Жыл бұрын
And who your QB
@antoniofeaster7300
@antoniofeaster7300 Жыл бұрын
@@PhoenixRiseup577 purdy
@cameronzwicke5761
@cameronzwicke5761 Жыл бұрын
Buffalo won't make it to the Superbowl. Allen can't protect the ball and until they have a reliable running game they won't get past the divisional round.
@nikkoj5356
@nikkoj5356 11 ай бұрын
The idea that the Rams could be TBD and not shock the world makes zero sense.
@VinnyI6420
@VinnyI6420 11 ай бұрын
Meh, their main players were injured last season. Kupp is still a beast, and if Stafford is healthy, they are a good duo, and Akers came on towards the end of last season.
@arendrollo
@arendrollo Жыл бұрын
LETS GO FAITHFUL ❤️💛❤️ Lance or Purdy (idc I like both), best tackle, best RB, top TE, great WR duo, best pass rusher, best LB, top 10 secondary, and top 5 HC I’m ready for another great season of football in the bay!
@GuhanG
@GuhanG Жыл бұрын
Go niners
@ShadowBox112
@ShadowBox112 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@49erEmpire
@49erEmpire Жыл бұрын
Bang❗️ Bang ‼️ Niner Gang!! 🎉
@Michael-uu7zq
@Michael-uu7zq Жыл бұрын
Best LB? B Wags plays for Seahawks not the Niners
@coreymunroe8073
@coreymunroe8073 Жыл бұрын
@@Michael-uu7zq And he's not nearly as good as Fred or Dre. Wagner ain't that guy.
@steelerskid14
@steelerskid14 Жыл бұрын
Gronk?
@jimblackbird5678
@jimblackbird5678 10 ай бұрын
The excitement is back in Seattle. Be afraid…
@damielleon1020
@damielleon1020 Жыл бұрын
😂😂the cardinals
@Football_is_lit
@Football_is_lit Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the Seahawks will be better than the Niners for 2023
@joshuafischer4104
@joshuafischer4104 11 ай бұрын
Woah… How come? Just wondering
@byronsmith3152
@byronsmith3152 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but the Giants had one decent year. They need to prove that was not a fluke, period. They are not Hovering around anything IMO. Minny can at least say they have been to the playoffs a few times recently.
@YnlChriss2Coldd
@YnlChriss2Coldd Жыл бұрын
No they had 2 bad years giants have been a good teams js fell off a lil #bengalsfan
@austinlittle8398
@austinlittle8398 Жыл бұрын
So yall are gonna give the saints tbd because of the defense but not the bucs? Shaq barrett, lavonte david, Joe Tryon, cancey, vita vea, Antione Winfield Jr, Jamal dean?
@austinlittle8398
@austinlittle8398 Жыл бұрын
And yeah the qb situation is not great, but its still one of the best o lines, plus Mike Evans, plus Chris Godwin. If yall are putting them in shock the world yall are gonna be shocked
@ParsonsProdz13
@ParsonsProdz13 Жыл бұрын
Cmon cowboys
@brisonford4109
@brisonford4109 Жыл бұрын
Go hawks!!! 12
@momentumisback5195
@momentumisback5195 Жыл бұрын
The disrespect on my panthers name.
@Michael-uu7zq
@Michael-uu7zq Жыл бұрын
Then earn respect
@VinnyI6420
@VinnyI6420 11 ай бұрын
Yall have a rookie QB, its hard to judge that.
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