Literally BBC journalism

That’s like saying “what does meat taste like?I know! Let’s ask vegans 👍 “

Yes that is exactly what they did

I SEE YOUR RAINE PFP

What's death like? we asked some living people.

Literally my mom’s way of thinking. I’m a pretty flamboyant and feminine trans guy, so according to her me being trans was OBVIOUSLY sudden and out of nowhere

Not even that sometimes! There are way to many people who try everything to surpress the 'wrong' gender expression in their children and then later act like the child definitely wanted to present as their agab :|

It’s so funny bc that’s how my mom reacted and like. Mom. Yes I played with Barbies and loved Dora and wore skorts and my favourite colour was purple. The fact that despite all that you still called me a tomboy might mean that you recognized how masculine I was while doing those things.

You just ended my mom's whole career 😭🤘

Exactly

Literaly anytime my parents use it for any fucking thing I want to throw myself from the window bc they make pain feel like a relief Jk of course

Thing is, governments actually do that.

@@Mark73 yup

i read an stricle once about childbirth once. and the person who wrote it interviewed a man and I remember the line "She will enjoy the feeling" either about giving birth or the birthing itself.

@@manofmagic1803 That is fucking hilarious

"What do Christians think? We asked Atheists"

Exactly

ah yes, because gender expression = sexuality apparently

@@imjustgr8 Homophobes are almost always also transphobes. Because they can't distinguish between sexuality and gender and gentials.

@@John_Weiss yup, exactly

@@John_Weiss Transphobia is pretty much repackaged homophobia, since the whole "trans panic" defense is based on the assailant's fear of being seen as gay for dating a trans person.

I recently saw it compared to going to a Star Trek convention, asking people there if they like Star Trek, and using the data to determine that humans on average are overwhelmingly positively inclined to Star Trek.

It's so good seeing you here!! I recognize you from the Transatlantic Call-in Show!

@@kazikek2674 from jessie gender's video?

@@literally-no-one9587 Yup, I've basically bingewatched some Samantha Lux and Jessie videos, but only the latter's a (declared) Star Trekfan, so it must be her :D

@@FaiaHalo Seems I found the best parts of KZfaq. After Vi La Bianca inspired me to get informed on trans issues on their old show, Katy became the first creator I subscribed to in order to learn. 🦆 After I realised the importance of the fight for human rights against TERFs and their ilk, by being confronted with the TERF Wars every week and subscribing to a few other great voices, I realised I was only following trans women and enbies, and only seeing part of the issue. Stumbling over Jamie’s “beef” with Noah Finnce and this channel several months ago came at just the perfect time, and I have watched every video since. Making TERFs actually write that they want Katy in the men’s changing room, and therefore Jamie in the women’s, seems to be one of the easiest ways to show how wrong they are on just about everything. Also, the positive energy between “Hey spuds!” and “Byeeee!” usually brightens my days considerably. :)

I think it’s worse than that - like asking what neurosurgery is to a person who doesn’t believe in brains

😂😂😂

@@YBlvr Ah, so they asked Marjorie Taylor Greene

​@@YBlvrflat brainers

W parent good parent award goes to you🎉

Your entire post sounds like a virtue signalling Flex. By keeping your kids surrounded in this environment, it's no wonder that eventually the idea is going to sink into them that it's laudable to be a degenerate or one who allies with degeneracy. Mein Got! Something is definitely going wrong in your household, if your kids are that messed up at such a young age. It's always the fucking mothers that push this degenerate shit.

Now that’s how you parent

i wish u were my parent tbh

Thanks y'all. Sending Mom hugs.

My mom did something similar! I’m so sorry!

Wtf 🙄 Sorry you're going through this crap

I'm afraid to come out to my mom for this reason. I'm nonbinary and my partner is nonbinary. I decided my identity well before I knew my partner but I'm so nervous my mom is going to claim they "converted me" to being nonbinary whenever I come out

How-? She just pretends you never came out?

@@bi-lociraptor6322 I don't know, probably. All she ever goes on about is that he turned me trans because of "rapid onsent gender dysphoria" and when I say I came out before meeting him she insists that I didn't. :/ I'm also literally transfem so I don't know how he could've transed me lol. Can't imagine it'd be super comfortable for my transmasc partner to convince me to be a girl.

@@richie9878 Gender dysphoria isn't being pushed at all. Therapists are far more likely to think someone has depression, anxiety, even stuff like bipolar and bpd than they are to think gender dysphoria. Also, mental health professionals know that acting/presenting/enjoying being gender non conforming doesn't make someone trans. They aren't pointing at every tomboy and saying they're a boy.

@@theviewer6889 Its not me saying its being pushed and over diagnosed its other physiologist. But ok why do you think there is such a dramatic increase in trans and non binary people but only in teen girls?

@@richie9878 probably because "teen girls" tend to be more accepting of trans people than teen boys, and by exposure they actually learn terms for what they feel

@@kida5004 That doesn't account for a lot of things. One, that doesn't account for the fact we are not seeing an increase in any other age group in men or women. Two, in the past as in before 2010 transgenderism was almost exclusively biological men. What some psychologists believe is that since teen girls are more likely to be depressed and have feelings of estrangement....in ths past they would be the ones to be "cutters" or have things like anorexia, but now gender dysphoria is being pushed on any teen that feels this way and thinking you figured out "your true self" can be a temporary high, but ultimately they are still depressed and when that high goes away thats when self harm happens so that also accounts for the dramatic increase of suicides among trans teens that we have seen in the last decade that coincides with the dramatic increase of teens that identity as trans and nonbinary.

@@richie9878 It isn't only in teen girls, it's in everyone. But lets just say it is and try and find a reason. More amab folk will realise they are trans at a younger age because of the dysphoria caused by having a penis. It's very obviously there, even as a small kid. However, afab folk only develop boobs and a notable hip/waist difference when they hit puberty, then the dysphoria kicks in. Baby boys have a penis, baby girls don't have breasts. But afab folk aren't even more likely to be trans, as I said it is closer to equal. As for why there is a rise in general, it is cause of an increase of acceptance and awareness. Also, to address your other comment on "before 2010 transgenderism was almost exclusively biological men" that one is simple. It was almost exclusively *studied* in amab folk, trans men were just as common but got no spotlight. Basically, who medicine focused on created a false idea as to who was and wasn't trans. It's like how autism was only studied in boys so it looked like only boys could have it, but in reality it was about equal across the genders.

Exactly. I spent my life in a small community and felt I was all alone. When I finally got a computer and came in contact with some gay men I could talk to, it gave me the confidence (not much but some) to come out. Four or five decades late but I did it. No one turned me gay. I just gained perspective and made a decision to be myself. Note the "four or five decades" part. It wasn't a phase.

exactly! idk why people cant realize this. i knew i was gay before anyone else came out but finding out i was trans? i pretty much just joked about it and never was serious about it (since the reaction i usually got was a "yeah sure" sarcastic laugh or just being dismissed if i ever brought it up) but after becoming friends with 4 other trans people, i realized my gender identity (sure it took me a couple years before actually finding out, but hey it finally happened, right?) the thing with being surrounded by so many other lgbtqia+ people, is that people just assume you all are trying to be different and are just rubbing off on each other. It's so ridiculous to think about. If being gay or trans can rub off on a person then shouldn't being cishet as well?? and god knows how many cishet people i was and still am surrounded by.

Literally me So like about a year ago l was starting to realise I found men attractive but I just thought nah I like girls I'm striaght. Then a couple of weeks later my friend was talking about how he was bisexual and I asked what it was. He said "it's where your attracted to both men and women" and then it clicked.

Exactly. If for example a guy makes some LGBT friends and now feels more comfortable being feminine or might be more comfortable seeing himself as queer, he didn't turn gay. The gay was already within.

Or helped you come out and feel okay as a trans person

lmfaoo exactly

Is this post a good post? We asked a dog that hates art

I think this would better fit as “what are women like? We asked misogynists!”

More like "we asked a mysogibist and homophobic man"

So TPUSA womens convention then.

Kinda like when they hang around drug dealers and become a drug dealer it was your fault all along for not letting them realise "their truth" 🤣

So how did you know you were a girl Jennifer? What is a girl? How do you know you aren't a hyper feminine gender non conforming man?

@@hitoshura2800 my name is Jennifer this scares me lmao

@@hitoshura2800 lmao less than 1% of trans people detransition, it's around 0.5%. Detransitioning or regret is very rare. And some of those people detransitioned because of unsupportive loved ones. The effectiveness rate of medical transition is higher than with most conventional medicines that are widely accepted as being safe. Growing rate of detransitioners my ass.

@@Lisa_Flowers Lmfao, hey really quick just out of curiosity, what is a man and what is a woman? Without being circular please 🙏

@@hitoshura2800 there's no universal definition of what being a man is, language is a social construct humans created so that we can communicate. Being male, female and intersex are biological things which depend on sex, sex aka natal sex “refers to a set of biological attributes in humans and animals.” Sex is primarily associated with physical and physiological features including sex chromosomes, gene expression, hormone levels, and reproductive/sexual anatomy and gonads. Man and woman are part of gender and gender is primarily a social construct which is fluid and changes throughout history , it's not a static word with an absolute definition. This is why sex and gender are different, they are of course related but still nonetheless different.

Haven't told my mom yet, but a similar thing happened to me when I was 6-7+ I suddenly went from hating pants and wearing only dresses to hating everything girly, shopping only in the boys section, wanting to always wear my "boy-clothes", and telling my parents that I wanted to be a boy. What I think happened was that I liked dresses and pretty colors because of autism. Then at around 7 I started actually understanding what gender was and immediately eschewed my comfortable clothes so that I could feel like a boy. I went back into the closet in late grade school (10 years old ish?) Because mom told me that when I wore blouses, the other moms asked her if I'd lost weight. I didn't figure out that I might not be cis until I was like... 20. Because everyone has a "boy phase," right?... Right guys? Every girl says she wants to be a boy for several months or years. Right? Anyway, mom is currently very unhappy that I cut my hair short the day after Thanksgiving (a couple weeks ago) I'm pretty sure she's going to have an even bigger meltdown once I finally come out. Honestly, if she has a tantrum after finding out, it would be a good excuse to cut off my relationship with her. She's emotionally abusive anyway.

@@aldenheterodyne2833 Then just cut the relationship already. You don't need an excuse when she gave you plenty already.

@@aldenheterodyne2833 good luck mate. im also waiting for the day i can cut mine off. let's stay strong until then!

@@saggysampson9373 No, it doesn't. Not in the least.

@@saggysampson9373 I doubt they even had internet access at 7. I didn't.

How old was she?

Jadyyyyn didnt know you watch him too

This is poggers.

Let’s go Jadyn!

You just want to fit in because you didn't fit in anywhere else it's okay but don't act like this you've been trans your whole life

the only people who being trans is a "trend" for are transphobes

I had a trans friend in middle school, and then one of our other friends told me they were thinking they were trans (using they because they never actually told me if they were). After that I had a friend in Junior High who was trans. Thinking about that got me freaking out thinking "what if it's a disease and needs to be cured?" "Did I "turn trans"?" I don't think that way now but I wonder sometimes

And it is easier because yeah, we think the same and understand each other

I coined the term “gayvity” for this a few years back and I’ve been trying to make it catch on ever since. It’s like gaydar, but gravity

When I came out to my best friends from high school (this was several years after graduation, and we’re still best friends) I was nervous they wouldn’t understand or accept me (bisexual nonbinary). Turns out, one friend is Pan and has other nonbinary friends, one is heteroflexible and has experimented with kissing girls, and one has an aesthetic appreciation of other women but identifies s as straight. My pan friend was actually worried that she wouldn’t be able to come out to us and worried that she might lose us as friends. Also, a lot of people I was friends with in school turned out to be super queer too. We really do gravitate to each other without realizing it!

Much like the anorexic boom in the 90’s, it’s 100% a social contagion. And it’s GIRLS (shocker) who follow the trends the most. NATAL GIRLS now account for 70% of transitions over MTF. Why such a strong switch? Social contagion

@Ghostfem well, it's really about communication, I think. Asking the kid how they feel about it and repeatedly checking in on it. And even if it is a phase, there's really no harm done in letting them explore a bit anyways, wear different clothes and such. If they grow out of it, they grow out of it, and that's fine too. At least they felt loved enough to express themself without fear or judgement.

@@lunari64_ agreed. even if it is a phase, parents should support the phase, because phases are how we discover ourselves. besides, the the children themselves would know very well if it is a phase or not.

@@lunari64_ this was very well put

@Ghostfem Even if “being trans” is a phase, it’s not like presenting as whatever gender they feel like is going to leave a permanent scar or anything. There’s a reason why most trans people can only get their hormones and surgeries after they’ve become of age and not while still minors.

@Ghostfem There’s always the few but loud extremists who stand out and make the rest of their community look bad. Most trans people would understand if you change your mind since it’s about exploring and understanding your identity, especially at a young age. A lot of trans people even support people who end up choosing to detransition. Admittedly, though, I can’t say what a conservative would think.

beat me to it.

Lmao

I've played too much metal gear solid, I skimmed the comment and panicked because I thought you said "gene therapy" I'm an idiot

@@thecrabmaestro564 SNAAAAAAAAAKE

Or maybe the kids

Yeah that's honestly such a good explanation of it

That’s what I have been saying to so many people in the comments

you seem like an extremely respectful person :) you are completely right though, most people whom are lgbtq inspire and help others

That's a very good way to phrase it, I like it

yeah id say that's accurate. ive seen this in my friend groups too. i love the seed analogy, good job putting that into words. also based cishet dude is based

Pretty much. Like the only seeds that were planted were middle school bullies calling me gay, and then i was like "damn, do i like guys tho?" And then my friends that came out just helped me realize why i felt these certain things and it made sense.

@@tiffanymcneish4099 yeah honestly now that I think about it there was a trans girl that graduated in my sophomore year and I think she really showed me "hey, don't give a fuck about people, just be you" and tbh I've been so much happier and able to talk to people more, instead of sitting in class just to be there.

It's really weird to think that people still believe this stuff in our day

Sounds like some of the weird bullshit my mom pulls. Like, it's not religious mumbo-jumbo, but it's similarly nonsensical.

That can be a sign of schizophrenia. If she also has other weirds believes, she should go to a Psyquiatrist.

The lengths ppl go to when their worldview gets changed...

What the hell, that's crazy

Too late, they beat you to that one

I am going to study the the effects of quarantine and long periods of time staying at home by asking millionares on their mega mansions yachts and jet planes how they are handling it

@@dicklover4203 see there is no mental strain. you asked the millionares and they say there were fine so it must be fine for everyone.right

@@Screact yeah.. right

@@chazer0075 true

that’s literally my friend group! one is a trans man, two of us are nb and then **the cis friends**

what

U shouldn't be self diagnosing yourself and saying you're apart of that community of people if you haven't been assessed by an actual medical professional...

@@grantmegan91 Actually how it works is that a person will be like "oh hey I have all this stuff, doc it feels to me that I either have a, b, or c" and the doctor will then analyse your symptoms and the things that you think they are, and they will come to their professional opinion! If I had to go to the doctor and explain all the things that are bothering me with me not actually having an idea of what was wrong with me I wouldn't have been diagnosed with a sleeping disorder, ADHD, ocd, fibromyalgia, adenomyosis, endometriosis, cluster headaches...the list is long and boring. But doctor's would prefer you had an idea of what was wrong with you, it's just that you shouldn't self diagnose without also trying to get an official diagnosis. At that though, sometimes doctor's tell you that you're wrong, you get a second opinion, and you're right! Self diagnosing is a very important step to any illness

@@CheekieCharlie oh yeah, I got my adhd diagnosis through learning that my brother has adhd, and I have all of the symptoms. It took an entire year to finally get evaluated (and another six months for medication), but by then I already knew for sure that I had to have it. I didn't go around saying I had adhd for sure until the diagnosis, but it was pretty obvious. If it weren't for self-diagnosis, I'd never have gotten accomandations for my struggles.

@@CheekieCharlie then that's speculation, not a diagnosis. speculation and research is good and necessary, saying you have a disorder and are part of a community when you haven't actually been diagnosed isn't. not saying you're doing any of those things, I don't know your life, but it's part of the discussion.

hugs

@@bromleykatly cheers :] hugs to you too

Transphobes: "most people who comes out are white privilege kids!!" Me, living in a judgmental asian society where anyone other than cishet is views as an abomination of creation and should die horribly: jeez, i wonder why?

@@slimetank394 this is too relatable lol

Oh there's probably a part of that. Not in you of course, but there is probably some cases of people doing that for le diversity points

First reply to the king?? ILY OT!! (In a platonic way of course)

I would just like to say I read all these transphobic comments in your voices.

Why are you do low in the comments? I had to scroll down so far

It's the same fallacy people used when their kids came out as Gay.. and btw.. since I'm old enough to remember when parents of kids who were dating outside their race, would blame all their Black friends, or listening to Black Music... This shit isn't new, but they somehow get away with it. You cannot make a scientific theory based on the biases of a Parent's "observations" of their kids. Especially when those parents have expressed clear bigotry towards groups of people.

Yeah... If I remember correctly, my mom tried to suggest that I was just imitating symptoms of autism from the internet and that both my councilor and doctor were trying to convince me to be disabled... I _did_ become severely disabled that year, so I suppose it's understandable why she thought that. It's actually the other way around though. I went to my Uni's clinic to get mental health help because I was afraid I was going to unalive myself. I couldn't keep up with everything anymore because I was in autistic burnout. The fact that I pushed through, consequences be damned for the next 1.5 years in order to graduate made it so that I was nearly incapable of getting out of bed and doing basic hygiene and meat-puppet maintenance for the next couple years. So from her pov I started getting disabled after my autism diagnosis.

Yeah, I'm autistic and trans and agree

@@aldenheterodyne2833 Yeah, so many people don't seem to realize that stress and internalizing stuff can worsen things that are already there. I can hide my autism perfectly well most of the time until I'm under pressure, then my speech impediment is more noticeable, sensory overload acts up more often, I'll even go semi-verbal during a breakdown - even with an early diagnosis and a supportive mother I didn't really _realize_ I was autistic until I was an adult and facing the "oh god high school is over I never thought I'd get this far" crisis and became paralyzed with it. Same with being trans, I'm lucky enough to not really have dysphoria but I'll get surges of it during darker moments, and one of the things that helped me realize I was trans was when I was deep in depression and the only thing that genuinely made me excited in _years_ was the thought of replacing my wardrobe, cutting my hair, and letting myself present masc. I couldn't picture anything else in my future, but I was hyped about that lol. So often we hide what makes us different until we physically can't anymore, and then when we hit that breaking point people wonder why there's shattered glass on the ground when they didn't even realize what they were looking at was just a mirror we put up.

Maybe it's cos of that damn phone. 👀👀👀

Agreed.

The person who did that study knew exactly what they were getting into, they wanted a specific type of person to confirm things so that they have an excuse to call today

A lot of it is probably them being sheltered, less acceptance and information

Same. I actually had a phase when I was transphobic towards every other trans person except myself, mostly because of my dad's girlfriend and that she and my dad watched FOX News every single day. Don't think that way anymore, but I agree that stuff like this does wreck our mental health

I'm kinda struggling with this too right now. Since last year, I'm exploring my gender and I wonder if I'm not non-binary (I feel more at ease with this term). But since I always thought of myself as a woman before (since an event that triggered the thought that it might not be all I was) and that people are talking more and more about transgender people, I don't feel legitimate (like I'm trying to force things to follow a trend). Thankfully I have supportive friends and familly, otherwise it could be really harsh

I’m so sorry you have rapid onset gender dysphoria Angel. You are the example that the parents talked about. Just horrible what this social wave is doing to this generation

someone seems to care a bit too much whilst having the username "i dont care" 🤔

Me too. My parents tend to tell me this all the time, and I moved to a new school and didn't have many trans friends for a while. The feeling never changed.

yep, then i realised that it’s mainly because when i was introduced to the concept of transgender and gender identities on the internet i felt that i related a LOT and i started identifying as trans and it wasn’t because of an influence from the internet :)

Marginalized? Trans people are celebrated, with literal parades, have a whole month of recognition, are presented to kids as a cool counter culture of love with colorful logos, are plaster as top women models, get special privileges and awards, get hired in top positions they do not qualify for simply because they are trans. Your definition of marginalized is very strange

@@wanderingsoullustfulandwho1975 they actually are celebrated around the world and in the countries that don’t you can also get killed for being a heterosexual Christian because they have sharia law. But go ahead tell me how trans people are marginalized in a country like Canada. I could easily argue that heterosexual Christian conservatives are more marginalized in places like Canada than trans people

@@wanderingsoullustfulandwho1975 um what I wrote was pretty simple lol. Pride is celebrated all around the world and in the few countries that don’t it’s because of sharia law. But explain how trans people are marginalized in a country like Canada

@@richie9878”we have pride parades so the anti trans legislation, extremists like Matt Walsh sparking violence, and constant transphobia doesn’t count as marginalization” You sound insane

​@@richie9878Oh yeah, forgot that trans women have one of the highest rates of violence commited against them. The true mark if any privileged group.

I mean, when has objective reality ever stopped transphobes?

@@ameliasellers6396 same lol. when i first heard the term i was like omg my dysphoria has rapidly gotten worse recently, this must be a term for it! then i found out what it actually meant

My mom quoted one well known doctor in Germany who spreads a mindset like this. „I have all those young ladies coming to me for gender alignment treatments and more than often they are from one friend group.“ 🙄🙄🙄

Because if you aren’t familiar with actual trans perspectives, the language TERFs use and the way they twist the truth can actually sound reasonable. My sister supports trans people in general, but started asking me about these common TERF talking points and I had to explain to her what Jamie said in the video. There are some well meaning people who fall for this simply because they do not have the full truth.

The whole idea of changing gender is also discredited and was invented by a pedophile psychologist. So who cares.

When I first saw I binder I though it was a crop top. Boy was I wrong.

​@@joesphrobinette8878 look up Joseph Lobdell. He is one of the first recorded trans men and he was from the 19th century

My friend's parents deny that they have ADHD even though they had a test done when they were younger, and one a few months ago.

@@gothic_fox3398 like, parents are extremely biased... especially when it comes to stuff that has stigma surrounding it... I don't think that it's malicious, not most of the time at least, but it's obviously really damaging...

I have the same experience. I have literally written pages and pages about how my experience maps onto every diagnostic criteria for depression I have found from reputable websites and the literal DSM, and how yes i'm not diagnosed (because she won't let me get a diagnosis) but there is clearly something wrong because I struggle to function on a regular basis and have struggled with s*icidal thoughts for 5 years. She is a literal medical doctor who worked in a psych ward and she still completely ignores my depression because she doesn't want me to be 'like those crazy people' she worked with. She also believes my depression can't be real or serious if I'm not completely incapacitated or act like the most extreme cases she saw in the psych ward (as in, soiling myself, constantly weeping, etc). Parents believe what they want to believe about their kids and will ignore whatever they think is wrong, upsetting, or inconvenient. She has admitted she doesn't trust or believe in therapy or psychologists, and that she isn't comfortable with me talking about the familial issues that have contributed to my depression (a.k.a she doesn't want me to make her or our family look bad). I 100% believe that if you asked a parent who hangs around transphobic websites and hates the idea of their kid being trans whether they were always that way, they would deny it in the same way my medical doctor of a mother denies my painfully clear mental health issues. And all of it boils down to biases against a group of people their kid is suddenly a part of, and a c0nsp1ratorial belief that medical system is evil because it doesn't tell them what they want to hear.

@@Lisa_Flowers 100% true also, I think there are ways you can seek help without your parents knowing keep fighting and stay safe❤️

Ah what is normal anyway. I don't think anyone is normal.

lol

Yep, I apparently "suddenly" came out as asexual after meeting gay people. As if I hadn't been saying I wasn't interested in dating since I was like 10, aka when I was asked if I had a boyfriend.

@@waffles3629 no 10 year old should have a boyfriend or girlfriend???

@@monotromatic2951 yep. That didn't stop all the adults who wanted to pry into my (non-existent) dating life. And many of them would keep pushing like "Oh, come-on, I know there's someone you have your eye on". The "best" way most of these encounters ended was being told I'm just a late bloomer, and not to worry, because I'll want it one day. How I was supposed to be worrying about not having something I didn't want I will never understand. Also I'm still being called a late bloomer...in my late 20s.

I'm still afraid to transition while being near my homophobic family. Luckily my husband is very supportive of me. 😊 Hopefully one day when I feel comfortable I can transition.

@@crossroads670 oh great, so transphobic and misogynistic. These "researchers" sure love to just check em off one by one huh? Seems like they'll do anything to target us transfolx. Its good to know though they were at least smart enough to find it doesn't exist in at least one side of the spectrum. I swear, where do they find these nut job people to run research?!

@@crossroads670 huh very interesting! I had no idea! Its still disturbing af that a research genuinely came to the conclusion that we're all just faking it and/or picking it up from others. I sure hope they got sued for such a finding.

@@crossroads670 sorry, i believe i meant more along the lines of how they handled the investigation into it. there's nothing wrong with wondering what causes someone to be transgender, I mean its a perfectly normal question, but in doing so, they shouldn't have been questioning known transphobes to find an answer.

Because cishets are awkward

lol. If you solve this mystery, would you be interested in solving the case of why people who scream about lgbtq+ people "forcing fake gender stuff" on everyone hypocritally continue to force their gender norms on everyone?

@@MDR-zf8th because they only reapeat our demands

*YOU HAVE A PAN* (me) *WITH A PLAN BACKING YOU UP*

Do you need a secret gaygent?

I'd also recommend the video by PsychoSocialism debunking the ROGD study. He works as a clinical psychiatrist.

@@FrozEnbyWolf150 I ended up checking out PsychoSocialism’s video because I found your comment, and I gotta thank you for that. Very informative and insightful, yet humorous at the same time, I’ll have to check out more of his videos for sure

This seems kind of ironic because the whole liberal gender ideology is based on men saying they are women because they feel like on and vise versa. So it’s like saying what does a man feel like inside we asked a woman lol.

Stop trying to determine gender by what’s in someone’s pants

So, no reason for Jamie to change appearance and physicality to look like the opposite sex then...right?

@@dlg78 No, he does that so that people like you will respect his gender. He doesn’t *have* to but it’s what society asks of him to pass as a guy.

@@tright6 right, so society, and Jamie thinks a cis man is actually what a man is. And no, that's not what society asks of Jamie. Society doesn't think you're a man because you have some surgery and grow a beard. ...and nor does Jamie.. Because I'm sure if Jamie could click her fingers and turn herself completely into a male, she would.

@@dlg78 No, society thinks that a man needs to have a specific appearance to pass as a man. Even men that like to wear less traditionally masculine clothes get marked as “lesser” by society. Jamie is a man. If you saw him on the street you would see him as a man. Only because he makes trans content is why you know his gender identity. You’re going out of your way to call him a woman and use female pronouns on him to be hateful. That’s what transphobia is. You’re transphobic.

That wasn't very helpful.

@@zemorph42 ??????

@@AlexDeLarge1 I looked it up and it wasn't very helpful. I agree with the conclusion, but I don't understand why well enough to explain it and that reference didn't help.

Thanks for sharing your story, I wanna say that you are completely valid! Not everyone who thinks their trans are trans. Everyone has their unique journey. But saying that, just because it isn't you, doesn't mean it isn't the thing for anyone else. Again, thank you!

It's just been a phase for 3 years! And it'll still be a phase 30 years from now! *Boomer voice ends here.* *Sarcasm ends here.*

Sorry to hear that, Ivy. There’s nothing wrong with your gender identity. Stay strong.

That feels like a huge breach in ethics. I don’t know what laws or rules would govern that, but I’d think a therapist would get in trouble for diagnosing a patient they’d never even met…

@@oceanmariep256 It should be, but there is in fact, a MASSIVE problem in the US and a lack of standardization of Mental Health from state to state there are all sorts of different laws.. and that all anyone can really do is try to find someone in there state that follows evidence based medicine, and see them.. because almost anyone can call themselves a Therapist.. and begin treating people with no medical training or education at all.. Camp Counselors, Youth Group Leaders, Pastors etc.. etc.. are quite often allowed to call themselves Therapists, and can even attach themselves to Hospitals.. Of course, their Diagnoses wouldn't be recognized by any Therapist licensed in evidence based medicine.. There is no ROGD diagnosis in the DSM, you might as well have a diagnosis for imaginariosis.. I would try to report the Therapist if they are attached to a hospital. For making up diagnoses that are not recognized by the DSM, as well as the Ethical breeches.

Wtf. Disown your family the second you're old enough to get out of there, and never speak to them again. They don't deserve you.

Listen to your mom, anyone with common sense can easily see you are being influenced by pop culture. You and many teens are literally speaking of being trans like it’s like being goth. Here is a quick one question litmus test to see if you been indoctrinated. Can you define what a woman is? There is a very simple scientifically observed and defined answer, and if you can not answer this accurately without feeling like you are violating your ideology you might want to ask yourself why.

I hope you're getting help now, and this is all the more reason I would like to see people not just debunking ROGD, but providing resources so that people caught in these positions can seek proper help. Reporting so-called "Trans Clinics" who diagnose anyone with ROGD..

How tf is ROGD even a legitimate diagnosis? That shouldn't be allowed by clinical professionals. Wtf

@@Vynjira-chan We have one clinic in the entire country which is horrifying and they are very backwards. They refuse to help non-binary people. turn away 85-90% of people who apply, swears by ROGD and are very poorly educated on trans people and gender dysphoria in general.

@@darkwickgames7175 I've actually heard of this situation before and seen Trans people defend it because they are the one person who made it thru... Of course then you have a huge problem of actually making any positive changes.

@@Vynjira-chan I understand making sure that this isn't something you'll regret and that you comprehend that it is a permanent, irreversible decision. But gatekeeping on the basis of hostile psudo-science and willfull ignorance is crappy and extremely damaging. Oh, I didn't even tell you the worst part. People who take the private rout for treatment (surgery, hormones ext) will be refused any kind of help from the clinic in the future. Say you spend your own money on top surgery at a private clinic, but nobody in the country preforms bottom surgery except the official clinic, they will refuse to do it because...reasons?

Oh wow, sorta same. It took me until high school when I realized not everyone had girl and guy crushes. 🤷‍♂️

It took talking to a friend (recently out as lesbian) about cute girls before she gently pointed out to me that "you know straight girls don't want to date other girls, right?" It just felt _so obvious_ to me that it was literally impossible to rule out half the world simply based on gender, that's ridiculous, who would even be able to do that, so I considered myself "a straight girl, but I'd date other girls" ...I was _sixteen._ I had a lot of queer friends, even one or two family members. I knew what bisexuality was! I'd just never realised that it applied to _me,_ because all the queer rep in media and around me was of people who struggled to come to terms with their attraction, and I'd never had that experience Still wasn't my friend "turning me bi" though. Just pointing something out and letting me figure it out

Yup. I compare it to wearing the wrong shoe size for your whole life. The moment you realise you can take the shoes off you become really aware how much your feet hurt.

Same with me!

Please try therapy. Dont do anything to your body. Its a scam.

@@evashimaj3304 You're a scam

@@Sly-Moose i am not selling you anything. Be careful of people who promise you impossible things. And it is impossible to change sex so what is the point in mutilating yourself

@@evashimaj3304 It"S iMpOsSiBlE fOr SoMeOnE wItH cRoOkEd TeEtH tO cHaNgE tHeIr GeNeTiCs So WhY sHoUlD tHeY bOtHeR gEtTiNg BrAcEs? Gtfo with yo "unwilling to adapt to change" self.

So the dentist's fiance has a current wife? Neat.

God caught the gay, you heard it here folks!

If you were born on a desert island alone and grew up, you'd have no concept of gender. So all of this is influenced.

i really only ever had about three non-cis friends and i came out before they came out or even had knowledge that they weren't, so

Same here.

So your saying you and your brother are not indoctrinated with modern gender religion… yeah ok 🙄 Here is a quick litmus test… What is a woman? You will see that this madd up gender religion will not let you answer this simple scientific question because it goes against the dogma of gender religion

​@@richie9878 you sound like a flat earther, are you even reading what you're saying or just repeating what other people have told you 😂

@@Radohemd I haven’t said anything remotely close to making a claim that the earth is flat lol. So Go ahead if you are for science answer this simple scientific question… what is a woman? Watch how your ideology will not allow you to answer that in a scientific way, just like a flat earther has to deny scientific truth so will you because you are indoctrinated

@Ivelios Xilosient ​​⁠ ​​⁠ ​⁠​⁠ you say I’m anti science than turn around and say you can’t define something that is scientifically defined. The reason that you don’t want to define what is a woman is, is because of the same reasons people started to believe the earth is flat, it makes them part of a community so they Will ignore simple scientific truths. A woman is scientifically, observed as a human female past adolescent.

We accept each other even though we think our friends are weird because we're really fucking weird ourselves?

Are you sure you didn't "catch the cis" from all the people around you growing up though? Yeah, that's sarcasm. But it makes as much sense as someone believing you can "catch transgender" or a sexual orientation.

Yeah it's different because the kids were always trans, they just didn't know, whereas ROGD is "turning kids who would otherwise be cis trans". It's kind of funny when one person in the friend group comes out and starts a sort of chain reaction tho. Also (this is so random) but im aroace too! I noticed the flag in your pfp lol.

Do you live in Russia?

@@vidyasreeram2587 yuuup😅

@@Mirrima There is a Canadian organization called the Rainbow Railroad that works to get LGBT-folk out of countries where they are in danger simply for existing. Even if you're not a candidate for their help, you can always head westward. The Scandinavian countries are fairly tolerant. Even Germany isn't that bad for us in the major cities.