Thank you for posting this! We all need to learn from each other. I'm so glad everyone went home with a great story instead of planning a funeral! It would be great to have a "NO JUDGEMENT" assessment of this so we can all learn. It is easy to make a post-mortem from one simple angle, AND I'm not a certified instructor and a novice at best, but I see that: 1. Everyone tactically related seems correctly geared and harnessed-in. Great job. 2. The rapeller had the presence of mind to brake. Great job! 3. I was taught that command/notifications are to be barked out. I did not hear any. Q: Could vocal command/notifications have eliminated the rappeller from catching the assistant's (man in full-brim hat) foot? 4. It seems as if the assistant was there to keep the rope from slipping laterally on the edge, so they recognized the potential problem, which begs the question: should a better point-of-contact been found? Miniscule hand or foot adjustments by the assistant (if in fact that was what he was doing) were no match from the combined Newton force of a full-grown man exerted on the tiny contact patch of that rope against grainy edge. So, certainly his elimination from the edge would have eliminated his fall. 4. #2 assumes a belayer: if there was one, could he have warned them of the dangers? Again - I'm glad everyone was okay (although I bet that fall still hurt); and thanks for letting us learn from this event. I leave it to experts and the more experienced to add on more discerning comment.
@StoreyR2 ай бұрын
Its not a great setup really.. It looks like a course style setup. An instructor should've seen this coming if you go through the effort to set an abseil up like this one... It looks like an anchor made using a long static rope. The dead rope left over is made redundant to the anchor to abseil from. Another rope is added for safety. One side tied into the one abseiling, the guy in white is lowering him off him off using the safety rope whilst he is clipped into the master point of the main anchor. The dead rope used to abseil off was nicely protected with a red rope protection sleeve.. but it was clearly a useless safety feature as that rope is the main factor as to what caused this to happen! Dangerously obstructing to the rest of the instructor-student style setup tripping up the one lower on the safety line. It's looks as though the static line that the guy was abseiling off, was made redundant too far right of the anchor. It could've been placed more central in the anchor(bunny ears loops in the master point maybe). It also looks like one side of the anchor failed. It's simple to avoid this if you take a moment to think before you lower off. But just as easy to miss on hot days with big groups of people being distracted etc..
@Rksanchez871Ай бұрын
@@StoreyRexactly this is literally one of the few climbing situations that calls for judgement anybody that has rappelled even once should have foreseen this happening and I’m assuming everybody in this video either doesn’t care about safety or has no idea what they are doing
@tumekeehoa312129 күн бұрын
This story with a not inconceivable embellishment... Harry was instructing a client on a tricky abseil and all the mitigations for the pendulum risk failed sweeping him off the wall taking a small tumble... he struck his head on the rock and lost consciousness. His clients didn't know rope rescue or first aid and Harry died of asphyxiation because his airway was closed. RIP Harry I wish you'd worn a helmet.
@joewhitfield5561 Жыл бұрын
Perfectly working safety equipment. Glad you're all safe.
@TimeKiller.No1 Жыл бұрын
Both were not in a deadly state. but I guess the instructor's hip might be injured a little heavily. He didnt wear the helmet. If he drop from the head... I wish both were really safe.
@nigellax45412 күн бұрын
That kid is never going to climb again, and it is solely the instructor’s fault.
@Dfl87165Ай бұрын
“Yeah, I’m good, that was planned, part of the exercise, so to speak. Nope, nothing hurts. Why’re you asking?” 😂😂😂
@bubbyb0i6967 Жыл бұрын
Waaaaay too much slack in the instructor tether. Should’ve never allowed for a slip that far down.
@kylebessoni Жыл бұрын
Few notes. Instructor badly positioned near anchor Rappeller should have established direction of gravity sooner. Why did the rappel line move so drastically to a different position after the accident? What happened there?
@stefanomorandi7150 Жыл бұрын
yeah, that rope managed to move way too much to the side... badly positioned anchor or wrong way down
@hans-christianjentsch5808 Жыл бұрын
Wrong spot to go over the edge.
@leotheking1000Ай бұрын
Or wrong way to set up the anchor~
@MrMetz79 Жыл бұрын
Great example of the importance of all the safety one can get. At least we know the safety set up worked
@flav763410 ай бұрын
I'm no expert but I see so much wrong in every way possible, safety gear works well
@user-jq2zf3uf1eАй бұрын
Thank God everyone is safe…it’s always best to have yourself tied in to the anchor for safety especially if you’re helping someone to go down…
@Super-knot_man25 күн бұрын
Oh My God😢😢😢
@jcksncbcnzjdnskskdj20 күн бұрын
"Ow my ass"
@mauricelamain1978 Жыл бұрын
rope safed his life
@pija9505 Жыл бұрын
Those cliffs used to be white. Lol
@armandoestrada-rodriguez7418 Жыл бұрын
Kind of misleading title. This is more a failure in the set up. I was expecting someone to plummet all the way down through bad form or device management based on the phrasing of the title- glad that wasn't the case! More like a small swing hehe
@zulumonk778 ай бұрын
'oh oh oh oh. oh oh whoaaaa' how heroic. at least launch a spider web and save them jerk
@_ShaDynasty10 ай бұрын
"Nothing worth keeping"... Oh oh wo woooo
@GholladayАй бұрын
Alignment issue caused the shift to the side and the edge attendant should’ve been tight on his rope while approaching the edge. avoidable but his safety still worked.
@user-fq1pe3vl8e23 күн бұрын
That was a pro move putting your foot under the rope
@vangmountain3 күн бұрын
Honestly don't know what the heck they were doing and they clearly had zero clue either. If they were attempting to rappel, they better go back to practicing. What the heck was the blue guy doing? Did none of these guys know how to get off the edge? You don't do it by walking it like this guy. They were very lucky! The blue guy is clearly inexperienced. His body was haunched like he was read for number 2. In this position, his body will succumb to the compressive forces acting on it due to gravity. You must understand that in this phase, you have to get the rope down to the ledge and your body below it so the rope can support your body. At this phase, physics tells ups it cannot support our body. All it can do is pull us into the rock face. By doing so, we increase the normal force acting on our feet from the rock face and thus increase friction which keeps the feet from sliding out. The gray guy should NOT have been there trying to hold on to it. Instead, let blue fully take the slack out by loading it. He she be near the edge, legs spread and almost straight so he can resist the compressive forces as he slowly leans back releasing a little bit of rope at a time which will rotate his upper about his feet. Because the anchor is at his feet, he'll have to keep going till he's leaning back about a 30 degrees of so. At this point, he can start to move his feey down a little bit at a time. Then release more rope, move feet down bit, and repeat till the rope is above him and is support him against the pull of gravity. At this point, the rope is doing all the work and friction is not important. His feet now act as a stabilizer only. What these folks were doing, I have zero clue. All I kmow is they were very very lucky. Glad you all came out safe.
@GustavoHenrique-dm7lh10 ай бұрын
Nice, the security worked
@caseypensinger7417 Жыл бұрын
Respect the edge
@WaterfallWhispering10 ай бұрын
At least 1 of them was them was wearing a helmet 🪖!!!
@MattHew-vp1vl Жыл бұрын
Strong gear loop
@VXLVIXN5 ай бұрын
Almost happenned to me but no one feol i just hit something cus i was doing it in the school and it was like a 3 story or 2 story building and i hit it i got pretty nervous but didnt scream any second
@HipShot4Ай бұрын
Clown show! 😅
@John-nj7ds Жыл бұрын
I seen something like this but it was 180 ft and not tied in
@kevinhikes3132Ай бұрын
I think something like golf might be better for you
@thetrollslayer371611 ай бұрын
Bro needs a new hip.
@SticksAandstonesBozo4 ай бұрын
Wow. So wild to see every single day how incompetent people are.
@user-ho5qg3sb5h7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@tommuhlemanjr.38719 ай бұрын
That came very very close to having a bad ending. Guessing that guys weight and the distance he fell, I’m surprised (but happy) that he didn’t break the rope or belay loop. Way to many things wrong ….
@asteriskman3 ай бұрын
ever looked up how much force it takes to break a rope or belay loop?
@dennislydon67693 ай бұрын
The Joe Biden School of Rappelling
@Ijumpandfly9 ай бұрын
1st thing comes to my mind- WHERE ARE YOUR ELBOW AND KNEE&SHIN PROTECTORS? 🤦
@blightedgrounds8 ай бұрын
There is zero reason to do this.
@chez3722 ай бұрын
Not true, sometimes the descent trail could be more exposed and dangerous than rappelling, or there could be no other way back down than rappelling.
@jaredh9463Ай бұрын
If more people knew how to repel and the equipment was provided where needed many lives would be saved. If people in the Trade Towers would have had repelling equipment on the upper floors they could have easily repelled down to the ground. This might sound sketchy to most people, but the very equipment these guys are using is used by children such as Boy Scouts on a routine basis. And if more construction workers had repel devices where needed, they could easily get out of bad situations where ladders or stairs are not readily available. I have several of my guys trained to harness up to repel equipment when they are working in areas where they can fall through, suvh as an attic into a room with a high ceiling and I exclusively wear a rock climbing harness with a desender on the front instead of a typical fall harness. Personally, I think a typical fall harnesses where you're hooked on at the back is royalty stupid. With typical construction harnesses the line is at the back of your feet which can cause you to trip, and if you do fall off the edge of a roof and get critically injured, if there's no one on the site with the equipment or training to get you down you have to wait for a fire truck. Sometimes 5 minutes is a matter of life and death. Watch this link to a KZfaq short and you'll see what I mean: kzfaq.infoh42D9LBweGg?si=-BvQnRL1x6H7xk-Y
@savas1234567 Жыл бұрын
😳
@JohnRambo-rk4qw Жыл бұрын
Wow....such amateurs..you have got to be kidding
@jagd1 Жыл бұрын
I certainly hope you don't ever try to teach. Trying to insult folks, as they go thru the learning process is asinine.
@junior.von.claire Жыл бұрын
@@jagd1The ground doesn’t insult. Facts don’t care about feelings.
@jagd1 Жыл бұрын
@@junior.von.claire you're correct in that respect, it's just people. If I insulted every student, they would certainly not be focused fully on what they're supposed to be learning. The only input that I would give on this setup would be that all folks on the lip should have had helmets and been attached with a handled ascender. A few lumps and bruises can enhance memory considerably. I personally would not have a student on that particular lip but each to their own...
@funtimes237 Жыл бұрын
@jagd1 i think we are insulting the instructors on this one.... i have been climbing and researching the technicalities of climbing for about a year, and even I (a newb) could've seen the potential for this kinda fail the pendulum possibly is not something to overlook when setting up anchors.