As a sidearm fanatic myself who lost many sidearm duels with you back in the sbmm days, thank you for moving this review up! Been eagerly awaiting it lol.

The update: you can now see what you shoot. tbh that's my main issue with sidearms, wish they did the same with all others but then we'd be in a sidearm meta all because you can now see what you're shootin' at

I’m upset you didn’t test this out with 5 other players using rat king

TV: I got this headshot. RK: Gurl look at that body.

Guides for SE 2nd and 3rd encounters coming soon?

Traveler’s judgement has always been my go-to, might try this now

This is exactly how all sidearms should recoil. They did this for Hand Canons in Witch Queen and SMGs much later. Sure, the range buff sidearms received was great; so great that bungie halved this buff; but the recoil and bounce should be addressed. I can’t use any sidearms other than rat king without only seeing my barrel above their head, resulting in me needing to aim at their waist or chest. Please bungie

TV idk how often you go back to your guerilla warfare stasis hunter but i would love to see your take on that build with the prismatic kit, i’ve been really enjoying it a lot!

I like it on close range maps on my invis hunter. But I always choose my Lonesome with RH/KC. Cooks on any map ❤ but thanks for the review homie

Glad to see your also working on Mahees, sleeper hand cannon.

I don't understand why there isn't a Lightweight Primary slot 1 kinetic sidearm with origin trait yet. I need one with a fun perk's pool.

For me if you need sidearm with hit head constistency it's be Devil's Ruin and Cryosthesia

Ive been loving my old Last Hope with ricochet / rangefinder / tzp trigger / farpoint.

Critical Anomaly review coming soon?

The rat king and the armor that gives you two dodges and the ability that says every time you dodge you reload your weapon. Does great. It helps you to invisible alittle faster..

Been running it with sniper and Omni.. I feen the cheddar

I wish they'd do this to Sunshot because it's recoil is ridiculous.

I love it! Bought the helmet too

Just watching the gameplay it looks like it has more recoil now. I never had a problem 4 tapping people but I haven’t used it this update

When did you come back to Destiny?

It’s a laser now almost zero recoil, but I can’t get j to it still somehow

It’s an adaptive sidearm at base. It was semi auto if you didn’t have the perk active until somewhat recently. People thought the RoF change was too jarring. That’s why it deals the exact same numbers as Drang and has the same exact fire rate. It was an adaptive Sidearm with built in full auto. Now with TFS, it’s got the firing animation of a Rapid Fire Frame so you can actually see what you’re shooting at when using it with other people. A consequence of this is better recoil in PvP, but likely stronger bloom.

Oh wow you claw very differently lol I claw where my pointer finger is jumping and dodging and reloading, not on the sticks. I’ll have to try your way out.

Could I encourage people to get turned on to a bumper jumper customized setup? On a standard controller you can aim fire chuck grenades jump slide sprint without ever letting go of the thumb sticks. All your other actions are a finger reach away on the face buttons. If you custom map your dpad a little bit which I've not even bothered utilizing yet you can put your pointer on movement duty while accessing several key functions with your thumb. It takes getting used to but once you do you'll hate having it mapped any other way.

I'll try it out but having to put down Forerunner is gonna hurt

I can’t get the cat to drop. Waiting on Xur

It looks like it shares the same recoil animation of cryo now.

Rat king has been my favorite sidearm for a long time, but heliocentric still exists and is still very good.

Only thing I can think of is that full auto has an accuracy cone penalty, kind of like Forerunner. Tapping the trigger keeps the cone nice and tight for rapid headshots--that's my theory anyway

I noticed a BIG difference in this sidearm in the new season, but couldn't think what? Love using this with my ratpack pvp buds, even though I'm crap 😂😂😂

rat king is one of those weapons that’s so good that it’s kind of boring to use because you just roll basically everyone you see

It came in quite useful in legendary solo campaign.

Back in year one this gun also used to be semi-auto, it never was meant for full auto unless using the pack gimmick. When travelers chosen got turned full auto I dropped it too until it was reverted. Devils ruin ironically stayed goated due to clean sights, built in zen moment, and being extremely reliable tap firing and laser.

I miss the old recoil animation. I could consistently get headshots with it but I can’t with this new one. I wish they’d put it back

i just wish Sidearms felt as comfortable to use on Mnk as they did on roller :(

I have the gun, but need the catalyst. I hope Xur sells the catalyst soon!

I was thinking of using sidearms in pvp and then I checked my subscribed page what the fuck

I like Rat King because of its powerful exotic perks. I think if it was a good dueler it would be way too good. Invis and health regen is a bonkers strong combo and has a lot of class and exotic armor synergy.

Awww but i liked the old recoil pattern. It was fun

just played a trials match with you, at least i hope it was the real tv

Here’s a tip you don’t need rat king to go invisible. Just play anything and there you go

Hey there TV. We have never met but I just wanted to say that I appreciate your videos, insight, and whole vibe. I wanted to push you to keep pressing on as I have been a long time fan. I also heard in one of your recent videos that you have a degree in biblical languages which I wouldn’t mind picking your brain about someday if I ever get the chance. I hope that you and your family are doing well and I pray blessings be with your channel and content. Thanks for all you do.

Fully automatic causes bloom which is why this hits less heads. If you pace your shots with trigger pulls as you mention rather than holding you can hit more heads for sure. I only have like 2k kills in crucible on mine but still I’d definitely say that’s the problem you’re referencing.

This guns stats look bad compared to travelers but I've been messing people up with the king. It's amazing

pc player here- its zero to 100 on MnK. my pc group have all decided its the very first sidearm that is perfect on MnK. i am a meager 1.0 player and i can extremely regularly hit 4 heads, and i never did that one single time on any sidearm before the rat king recoil change.

Great breakdown. I love Rat King, but maybe is the right answer on this buff.

I'll stick with my buzzard and allied demand. They just hit crits better. Plus swash makes it a 3 crit terror

Was hard to hit head shots with Rat King?

I’m coming up on 20k PvP kills with rat king. I think it’s worth using.

Alright rat king is unironically overpowered.

thanks now i know why i hate this sidearm and i love sidearms. thats sad that bungie penalize us for holding the trigger...

its new recoil bugs me. not cuz its not better just that i was much much more used to its old recoil animations.

It's crazy how much time .07 seconds is in crucible and yet people still call Destiny slow

TLDR Tap fire and use claw grip on controller

I used it after watching dfp ise it in a video but i still didnt like it

Destiny gunfights don’t happen in a vacuum. With all that Prismatic space-magic going on, Rat King is just too good to pass up for me!

Drang > Rat king

I have hated rat king since the very first time I tried it. After the buff I tried again. Still hate it. Your dead on about it being allergic to head shots.. its so painful

so you're holding the controller a little bit like a rat wound?

👑🐀

2 things need to be said here. 1. We didnt get better. Bungie allowed to triple stack enhanced targeting mods and that is the "skill" difference. You used to at MAX have 1 enhanced targeting mod and more likely you had a single normal targeting mod. 2. You can still just body spam ppl with sidearms for easy kills.

In all honesty I prefer the old shooting animation for the rat king but the new one is alright

i still need to have people do the catalyst for me. why does it require other people to use it to get it. EDIT: apparently you can just get kills with it now

I can't F'n unlock the damn catalyst because I need to use it with people who use it! damn stupid

If they make D3, here’s hoping they keep invis out of PvP

I guess this is why I saw a 3 stack using this in comp this weekend. We had a 3 stack, but one member d/c. The 3 stack annihilated the two of us with those...

Should you use it? Yeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeah 😂

Personally I like to pair Rat King with Graviton Forfeit. Match made in heaven if you ask me

I stopped playing three years ago, and the rat king was a beast then. You're late TV.

Its a small cancerous tumor in pvp and i love it

Skill issue TV

6:32 You hold the controller like a sped kid's first game. No, it's not easier to hit shots when "your pointer finger in on the THUMBSTICKS" Maybe just hold your controller firmly? How hard are you TAPPING your fuckin trigger, TAP!? You've literally not given an example of why this is better just fucked up and worse. The "best" way is pointer on R/L1, middle on R/L2, THUMBS ON THUMB STICKS (that's the important one) "Yah I play M+K w my feet, it's just way better for aiming. Gives me more leverage"

When you claw - where’s your thumb? Middle finger on trigger, and pointer on sticks? Your clawing sounds bonkers 😂

clicked off the video as soon as being a controller player was mentioned