Forged 4.6L 2V Engine Build Price Breakdown

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3 ай бұрын

The #1 asked question I receive is how much did we spend to build a forged long block for the Turbo'd New Edge Mustang? In today's video, I break it down part by part and go over how much we spent and.... it was A LOT OF MONEY! Most of the parts we purchased were through Cody Queensberry, owner of StraightLineSolutions.
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@MustangFord 3 ай бұрын

10K build is expensive but this car can take on modern cars that cost much more than 10K, and its paid off.... to me , that's a win on top of a win. Awesome build for sure

@RatchetWrenches 3 ай бұрын

Exactly! Always been a fan of older cars that are faster then new ones

@Booty482 Ай бұрын

Yea my build is about the same cost but that’s parts and labor included

@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts Ай бұрын

Lots of v8 builds with a good forged setup end up being close to 10k

@midnight347 25 күн бұрын

It can make as much or more than any of the newer coyotes and its in a much lighter car and it is still alot less all in than buying a newer coyote and then doing a big power build on that. Everyone always says oh you gotta do more mods on the old cars yea but they coat way less money so you have less into it when it's all said and done and have equal or better results and many people prefer the older cars me included.

@midnight347 25 күн бұрын

@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts a forged ls would be every bit as much even tho everyone says they're so "cheap" which is a bunch of nonsense lol.

@mrmoss149 3 ай бұрын

I know the price point was difficult, but, as you yourself stated, if you want to play.... But that build is awesome. I know the wait was torture but can't wait to see what you do from here on. Thank you for posting

@RatchetWrenches 3 ай бұрын

Thank you! Yeah it's all top of the line brand new parts and I couldn't be happier how it turned out. Can't wait to turn it up!

@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts Ай бұрын

Its crazy how modular motors were a big force to contend with in the 2000s and now people have amnesia or are too young to remember lol. Thats exactly why i went boosted mod motor instead of coyote/ls everything

@RatchetWrenches Ай бұрын

Yeah seriously times have changed drastically! I still love the 2v and 4v engines and would much rather build one instead of doing the overdone coyote builds like you said. They just sound better too IMO

@midnight347 25 күн бұрын

They're too young to remember many times and they just repeat what others say with no first hand knowledge.

@midnight347 25 күн бұрын

Boosted mod motors can put in work ecsp for the money spent. Most newer coyote cars plus mods cost way more than one of these properly built with forced induction and everything needed to make big reliable power. What I think is funny is how many ppl think ol 4.6 can't do more than 400 wheel like no matter what. Ppl don't even understand what a built short block is anymor

@RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts 24 күн бұрын

@midnight347 short blocks are getting harder and harder to find for these cars. Lots of them are on backorder, likely due to a shortage of suitable cores. If mine ever leaves the chat, I'll have to go coyote route :(

@jeffreyabbey9592 20 күн бұрын

Great build. Great breakdown

@Jsta2v_racing 3 ай бұрын

Bring it down to Texas some time. Can show u my turbo 2v. These motors can make power and really isn’t crazy to do. People just don’t give them a chance. 1000+ here. Keep it up

@RatchetWrenches 3 ай бұрын

I've seen videos of yours and it's nasty! Would love to come down to Texas. They really don't but they have the potential for it! 🤘🏽

@Jsta2v_racing 3 ай бұрын

@@RatchetWrenches come down for when they do the LMR cruise in

@GrubbingRust 2 ай бұрын

Are you on stock bottom end or did you go forged? I’m just asking because I’m buying a 2v soon and wondering how hard I can push it before it explodes

@Jsta2v_racing 2 ай бұрын

@@GrubbingRust it’s a built motor. Good rods and pistons. Cobra crank. ARP hardware. These motors can make 1000+. U have to do alittle work to them but it isn’t some voodoo magic either

@centraltexasfoxbodies 2 ай бұрын

I plan to build an engine for my 2v fox... un decided on which forced induction I'm going with. I'm really considering a kenne bell on top of trick flow heads... It all adds up, I'm like 15k into my 4.6 swap fox but that's with a holley terminator x and holley digital dash, lots of aftermarket suspension, built rear axle and so on. And that's just parts, I'll done all the labor myself in my driveway. It made the 600 mile round trip to lmr cruise in for 2023 and got 21 mpg running 75-80 on i35 with 3.73 gears she's humming at 2400 rpm

@TheTyyohe 7 күн бұрын

I wanted to build a 347, and i figured I'd have at least 6k in just the engine. That was a sobering moment and made me re-evaluate what engine to run in my fox.

@RatchetWrenches 6 күн бұрын

Yeah this hobby / sport isn't cheap! Definitely gotta pay to play if you want something built right and to handle high HP

@TheTyyohe 5 күн бұрын

@@RatchetWrenches yea, definitely.

@matthewvanderfin3361 Ай бұрын

10k is about what I expected, been looking and thinking about what I want to do with my own 2v.

@RatchetWrenches Ай бұрын

Yep I've heard some feedback that $10k isn't bad but obviously you can do it cheaper. I'm just excited now I don't have to worry about the bottom end anymore

@alexarellano9591 2 ай бұрын

Recently just got a 4.6 gt just like yours and trying to figure out what to buy and where to start. The parts and specific pricing along with your other videos really help out a lot. Thank you 🙏!

@RatchetWrenches 2 ай бұрын

That's awesome! Auto or manual? And it really depends on your goals and budget but it's a great platform to learn on and have fun with! Glad to help out!

@terryhodges5850 18 күн бұрын

Had a terminator A few years ago drove it for five years regularly put about 30,000 miles on it and sold it $6000 more than I paid for it 💥 those mustangs hold value

@RatchetWrenches 18 күн бұрын

That's insane. Yeah the terminators hold value very very well and about a year or 2 ago was the absolute best time to sell one they were going for so much money. They've come down a bit in value now I believe

@MrLightning54 7 сағат бұрын

Awesome build! You'll be safe on nearly anything you can throw at it now! That broken top edge of the piston you went through probably had a lot more to do with tight OEM piston ring end gap than non-forged bottom end components. Either way, I hope she holds up making tons of power for a really long time now! You may already know of him, but Andrew Lavender comes to mind for really getting alot from these 2V set-ups if you haven't watched his videos, check them out.

@RatchetWrenches 3 сағат бұрын

Thank you! And absolutely the bottom end is STOUT finally! Yeah the ring gaps aren't meant for mid 400 HP and TQ hahaha. But absolutely I know him I used to watch him all the time. He was one of the best when it came to 2v content on YT

@MrLightning54 3 сағат бұрын

@@RatchetWrenches I've been considering a 96-04 manual Mustang GT project myself, as your build is proving to be very, very cool. I'd like to have similar stuff, but possibly tune it myself using a Holley XFI deal, and incorporating a flex fuel sensor system if possible. Always dreaming, lol. Also, since you already know of Andrew Lavender, Richard Holdener is another one who has alot of experience with these older engines / power adders etc. In case you haven't checked him out. The best of luck moving forward on your car!

@KenMileyJr 3 ай бұрын

nothing wrong with a Terminator crank. Actually, it's the same crank from 96 to 04 Cobras, all forged kellogg cranks that can easily handle 4 digit power. Usually can be had in good shape for around 500 bucks.

@KenMileyJr 3 ай бұрын

Oh, and the 03/04 Mach 1's with manual trans had the forged cranks as well.

@RatchetWrenches 3 ай бұрын

No doubt! I just wanted to play it totally safe but I definitely could've gotten away with using the Kellogg!

@ichigonubetube 3 ай бұрын

Honestly most of the stock cranks can run 600-700 hp. Termi crank especially. Alot of people over build these days. I wanna build my 3v, a 9 thread 4v head swap, cams, forged pistons (still deciding the brand, looking to go budget), gonna do boss rods, stock crank, twin turbo. All ARP hardware.

@Jsta2v_racing 3 ай бұрын

The cobra crank would have been fine. They are capable of making 1000+. I am prove of that. Mine 1000+ with a turbo 2v

@Sleeper_Solutions 3 ай бұрын

It’s true the Kellogg is great. I recommended him to get a Manley because after 20 years it’s hard to find a Kellogg that doesn’t need a bunch of extra work. I know this because I had trouble sourcing one for just myself

@CX2003GT 3 ай бұрын

missed yall man!

@RatchetWrenches 3 ай бұрын

Aye I'm back! Especially once this weather gets nicer

@bullitt813 2 ай бұрын

Nice build! What fuel components do you have or are you going with? I'm assuming return style?

@RatchetWrenches 2 ай бұрын

Thanks! And yeah I'm running Fore's L4 Dual Pump Return Style system it's really good quality and can't wait to see how it performs when pushing the car to its limits

@67cudaksa34 3 ай бұрын

nice build. if you think that was expensive. yake a look at an egine with less hp for a nhra stock elimination car. heads can be 5k on the cheap end

@RatchetWrenches 3 ай бұрын

Thanks and oh I could only imagine for that type of competition racing how expensive the builds are for even less HP haha.

@jojogun1957 Ай бұрын

I was wondering how the Modmax short block builds are. They have a short block rated for 1,200hp and even withe upgrades on the pistons,crank and hardware it comes in around 5500.

@RatchetWrenches Ай бұрын

I honestly haven't heard much about Modmax. If you have Facebook I'd search it or ask about it in specific groups. There are some groups strictly designated to discuss 2v/3v/4v engines and there are some smart people in there.

@teelazysocold412 3 ай бұрын

Whats the plan with your high compression issue? 🤔 Id be hurt driving that thing around knowing I can't hit boost without hurting the fresh motor I just built. 🤷🏾‍♂️

@RatchetWrenches 3 ай бұрын

Haha you're relentless man

@teelazysocold412 3 ай бұрын

@@RatchetWrenches lol 😂 but na all bs aside.. Honestly how much boost are you currently running with 93 octane? 🤔

@midnight347 25 күн бұрын

I would just run better fuel and make way more power safely. At the very minimum 93/boostane which is 100 octane.

@crAzyy307 2 ай бұрын

Don’t do fender exit exhaust unless you’re planning on making it a full time drag car. If you plan on still driving it on the street regularly just do a straight pipe or put some Borla Atak mufflers on it.

@RatchetWrenches 2 ай бұрын

Why are you against fender / bumper exit? From my research straight pipe is too raspy and somewhat similar to fender / bumper exit. Borla ATAK would be awesome but I'd rather not spend $1200 on a catback that has slightly different mufflers / resonators then what I have now

@midnight347 25 күн бұрын

@RatchetWrenches straight pipe sounds badass with turbo setup the turbo itself acts as a muffler. I'd at least run it back and dump it under the axle. Bumper exist is good because it's less weight better response so it's all in what you want I suppose. .

@PAFORM350 3 ай бұрын

How many miles were on the block when it broke?

@RatchetWrenches 3 ай бұрын

I think 112,000

@calvinmauney5669 Ай бұрын

Similar price built on my 2v for 1000hp just cant decid if im going twins or single turbo

@RatchetWrenches Ай бұрын

I feel like I've heard and read that twin turbo set ups are better for hitting that 1000HP mark but obviously a big enough single can do it too

@midnight347 25 күн бұрын

I'd do twins if it's a street car better response. If it isn't a straight race car don't mod it like one always take into account response and overall power curve this is very important on street cars imo.

@midnight347 25 күн бұрын

@RatchetWrenches a big single can make more power but the reaponse won't be as good as twins which can easily make that and more with better response and less lag.

@bengordon7635 19 күн бұрын

seen an awesome 2011 mustang gt on face book market place with a rebuilt title .. runs perfectly for $4800 and all kinds between 7 and 8k hmmm the swap is not worth it anymore

@RatchetWrenches 18 күн бұрын

Everyone's got their own opinion. I personally like the sound of a 2v way more than the 5.0's. And with a built bottom end I'm capable of making 1000whp if I wanted to with the right supporting mods. And my title isn't rebuilt haha

@fordtechlife 2 ай бұрын

Money well spent Fords aren't Cheap 🔧🚗🐎🔥👊💪🇺🇸

@RatchetWrenches 2 ай бұрын

Hell yea! And no they aren't!

@divergxnt364 2 ай бұрын

Damn that is expensive lol. How much boost are you putting down tho? 💯

@RatchetWrenches 2 ай бұрын

It definitely was! And once I get the E-85 tune most likely will make 500 hp with ease on around 6-8lbs if I were to guess

@divergxnt364 2 ай бұрын

Fr! That's not counting the turbo & miscellaneous parts to make everything work lol. 😂 But E is definitely the way to go! How much boost are you currently running on pump gas? 🤔

@RatchetWrenches 2 ай бұрын

@divergxnt364 oh yeah its well into the 10's of thousands when you count that and the turbo kit. But I'm not sure how much currently probably just a couple lbs. I just cruise it until I'm ready for E-85 tune

@teelazysocold412 2 ай бұрын

@@RatchetWrenches what's the closest place with e85 from your location? Or It might be better to order a 55 gallon drum of e85 Idk. 🤔💯

@teelazysocold412 2 ай бұрын

@@RatchetWrenches or you can try the snow performance methanol injection kit as well. That would be a good video for content as well 🤷🏾‍♂️

@Rhills 2 ай бұрын

What happened to the s3 content?

@RatchetWrenches 2 ай бұрын

Austin left the channel and his car has been in the shop for weeks

@ztwntyn8 3 ай бұрын

How much was it? I lost focus. Need a total at the end. Cool build. Not taking anything from it. 👊🏻

@RatchetWrenches 3 ай бұрын

There's a total at the end

@Jsmith9619 3 ай бұрын

What a dumb comment and question. Can take the time to write a comment but can't actually watch the video to see the damn total? This is what is wrong with people anymore. No attention span, ignorant, rather have someone tell them than actually find out anything. Goes deeper than this video obviously

@MrAlternation Ай бұрын

11:37

@Jsmith9619 3 ай бұрын

Dude your shoes all over your bumper.

@RatchetWrenches 3 ай бұрын

Not really, maybe the front $60 lip a little bit

@barryhallsack8852 2 ай бұрын

10k is normal for a street engine. Go look at a proline 481x 😂.

@RatchetWrenches 2 ай бұрын

Dang yeah okay $10k is cheap hahah

@commonmockery1074 3 ай бұрын

I could’ve spent less getting a stroker kit for my Grand Marquis. Now I wish I did that.

@brucefozman3082 Ай бұрын

Race car!!!

@RatchetWrenches Ай бұрын

Hell yeah!

@RealLyfeTV365 15 күн бұрын

Better than buying a Lamborghini

@RatchetWrenches 14 күн бұрын

Idk about better but definitely cheaper 😂 depends what you're into!

@TheManic.5-OH 3 ай бұрын

With an opening like that? Screw this channel 🤣

@RatchetWrenches 3 ай бұрын

The video would be 5 seconds long if I structured it like how you want it

@garrittpwl 3 ай бұрын

Sorry your attention span is trash from youtube shorts and tiktok

@glenclifton4563 Ай бұрын

Look at blueprint motors. For a 436 hp sbc its about $7000. Dressed. Thars with core. Youve put the best in yours and the blueprint is not all the best. You did good!!

@RatchetWrenches Ай бұрын

Very true then thank you! Yeah I definitely didn't wanna cheap out on parts and the build this go around so I went all out besides head work but I didn't need to break the bank on that. Should be a fun season

@Johnnybratton802 3 ай бұрын

Great engine build. Impressive Big engine Heavy car Mini brakes Not a balanced car

@RatchetWrenches 3 ай бұрын

Mini brakes? They are not

@skyradloff 3 ай бұрын

he got big ol brembos on that unit brother these cars arent very heavy either

@NewEdgeDesigns 3 ай бұрын

Mini brain!!😂😂

@Sleeper_Solutions 3 ай бұрын

Hold up dawg 284ci is a big engine? 3200lbs is heavy for a street car? 4 piston brembos up front with 13” rotor is small brakes? What crack you smoking

@maciasd303837 3 ай бұрын

@kidgavilan700 has probably never built shit in his life lol