Just a bit more info for the sound origins, the chainsaw sound is pulled from the original doom games. The lawn mower is also ran through a synth and compressor so they can pitch it to sound effects. If I remember right the chainsaw is the heavy snyth sound on the higher pitch with the mower taking the lower pitches/ base line.

There's also Mongolian throat singing somewhere in the soundtrack, apparently.

The overtone singing is because the guy from Tenneger Cavalry was in the "Metal Choir". And I mean, what are you gonna do? Not use him?

That was 2016. In eternal he was allowed to use a guitar and he chose to only use the lowest of his 8 strings

​@Dr.Spatula that was the initial brief from id- no guitars. He worked it into Doom 2016 (hell, you see him playing along in the videos for RIP & Tear and BFG Division) after the initial resistance

We can't get Tchaikovski to leave out the canons and we don't even bother trying to get Mick Gordon to leave out the chainsaws.

THIS @@grantharriman284

more like Mick: Instruments? What instruments?

instruments of death

its actually Mic: no

Yeah the game is pretty hard but this soundtrack keeps you pushing, even helps you to concentrate, focused anger is scientifically proven to boost performance and this soundtrack is basically anger in audio form

​@@ghostass422and im HERE for it

Exactly u said it game would not be the same without this masterpiece

TRUTH

the gameplay is perfectly timed to the tempo of the music

"Against all the evils that Hell can conjure, All the wickedness that mankind can produce, We will send unto them... Only you. Rip and tear, until it is done." The Doom series is about the secret post-game boss deciding to let off some steam.

DOOM music is all boss fight music. It's just that you're the boss and the music follows you around.

That's quite an original thought. Almost like the title of the song is basically saying that.

"none of you seem to understand... I'm not locked in here with you... *You're locked in here with me!"*

In Doom, YOU are the final boss.

I listened to it every time went running last year. End of year wrapup on spotify was like "you listened to a lot of stuff from DOOM huh?" Absolutely makes me feel like I can punch through a brick wall.

Meathook makes me feel like that

Agree 100 percent when im working out and starting to feel a little worn out I put on either Doom 2016's or Eternals soundtrack and my energy level sky rockets.

Doom is my dependable, go-to gym music!

As someone once said: "DOOM soundtrack makes me feel like I could 1v1 the Sun and win"

nobody can listen to this track and not get involuntary stank face

hahaha involuntary stank face is a phenomena that should be studied

from now on, when people request music from me, im going to ask them what face they want the music to make them make, and if they make the stank face, well of course im giving them this song

@@metal_crowIt's true. It's just that fkkin raunchy.

I always appreciate a genuine stank face.

Love that the higher tones get more pronounced as you are low on health, too. Makes my anxiety raise, and makes me feel the pressure of low HP even more.

Slayer: enters room Demons: why do i hear boss music?

If you have never played it, I suggest trying out Killer Instinct 2013. It's a fighting game (one of the best imo) that has incredible music. Every character has their own stage and theme music. The music changes tone and tempo based on what's going on in the match and every track even keeps timing with every character's "ultra combo" finisher. Also helps that they were made by the same guy who did the Doom soundtrack. Well most of them.. Some of the later added characters were done by somebody else. Here are a few examples. These are the sound track release versions. The full versions that include all variations are much longer. "Spinal" They used instruments made from real human bone. - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o9ahltdi37PVhHk.html "Tusk" - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mrSooZCBmZm1lZs.html "Jago" Mick Gordon went to a monastery in Asia somewhere to learn how to throat sing just to make this track - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/otWDnZh63pezf6c.html "Fulgore" probably the most "doom like" track in the game - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jdCIotheta-clH0.html

It is very clever. The way they did it was playing several hundred individual second-long music bits, all made to run into each other so it sounds coherent even as it shifts around based on player action. I don't know anything about writing music, but it's got to be a higher difficulty level. And a crime they only paid him for the specific individual seconds of work. Create an interactive multidimensional soundscape, be paid in one dimension. . .

@TehAmelie his influence will be felt for years to come though. just look at those that have taken inspiration from him like Devil may cry 5

(Those are the lyrics) Rip and tear Rip and tear (repeated)

I like what you did there

Heh, isn't this the song where he used a sampled lawnmower for the lead "synth" instrument?

​@@BrandonBlumethe guitar riff in "At Dooms Gate" is blended with a chainsaw

@@peterdiven2021 Yeah, that one was the chainsaw. But this one was a lawnmower.

He was at a game developers conference I attended some years back, and I was really surprised by his energy in person. The way he passionately and quickly speaks about his work, the effortless flow of ideas and depth when he's talking to other professionals...I think you might be right: He is a genius.

@@VynxeVaingloryif you want to get mad, look at how Id and Bethesda tried to screw him over with Eternals soundtrack. Really painted him as a villain.

@@TSE_WOODY Businesses are gonna business. Shareholders are directly responsible for a large portion of the evil festering in today's world.

Actually, I think he included the satanic imagery as a joke, thinking "surely no one will find this and it won't blow up and become a big controversy"... and then exactly that happened, and a bunch of Christians started calling it satanic indoctrination propaganda. I find the way the story turned out way funnier, honestly.

@Stickarms99 he knew what he was doing and said so through multiple inverviews....the whole christians pushing congress into investigating music thing was in the 70s, 80s, and 90s when christians and politicians thought rock, rap, and metal were all satanic and they started putting warning labels and age restrictions on music, thanks to the at time first Lady Nancy reagan....you were close though, only a couple decades off...

wasn't the issue with the Production cause he did go over the deadline and din't deliver a complet job by the end?...

@@Mugthraka cause they absolutely fucked him, gave him basically no time, constantly scrapped what he was working on, didn't even pay him for a year the whole situation is so fucked honestly, it's a shock that he managed to get ANYTHING completed with the BS they pulled

@@Mugthraka You need to look into it again, as he's a great example of why many people skipped on joining the gaming industry from horror stories like his.

Cool, so torrent the game?

@@Loebane if purchasing isn't ownership, piracy isn't stealing

Funny thing, As finnish person it also sounds like "Hyökkäykseen!" which would translate as "Charge!" or "To attack!" :D

Technically KAR EN TUK but it translates the same. Gordon's use of a choir made up of heavy metal vocalists was beyond incredible. EDIT: Oh it is Rip and Tear in this one, I was thinking of Gladiator.

Yeah, I think the thing there is that it's the Sentinels copying his battle cry, so that's why it sounds weird? Idk, I'm not quite that nerdy

Kar en Tuk and Rip and Tear are the same chants in two languages. Different Doom Eternal songs have different versions of this chant.

I always thought they were saying “let me in” lol

you might also like someone called "the charismatic voice".

I'm so proud and happy for him. Next up, kublai khan

Waiting for “classical composer reacts to the most gut punching China breakdowns”

Funny how there are some things out there that a face of disgust means that it's amazing.

@@FoxSullivan my wife says she can tell when I really like a song because i'll make a face like i just smelled shit

Hey! It's the 8-bit prog guy!

Good music tech in games is always such a solid enhancement to the game.

That's what I was about to say. Listening to the full score barely reflects how it is used in game. It serves as a quiet ambiance when you're exploring around, and injects a huge dose of adrenaline into the chaos of battles. It's a marvelous piece of engineering tailored to support what happens on the screen.

I think another good example which actually predates much of Mick's work is the pursuit themes from Need for Speed: Most wanted (2005). It even has the cooldown phase music and the escaped parts of the song change based on how fast you're driving.

@@typeoddnamehere2362 Just look at Payday 2 for a similar style of music. Which can be traced back to the idea of mixing themes based on player actions which goes back to Rare and Banjoo.

which is the title of another track

RIP AND TEAR - or - KAR EN TUK

@@tantamounteduntil it is done o7

Many thanks your kind comment, happy that you enjoyed!

IT helps even more that the game it self ramps up the music as you do crazy shit. Glory kills, headshots whatever it gets me so amped more than any other shooter.

Exactly, it's almost like it causes a time dilation effect (duh, because adrenaline). The way the game plays, it might actually be *harder* without music like this.

@@gniawd Metal:Hell Singer does this but the combat is a lot less smooth compared to Eternal. Audiosurf FPS lol

I have to shut the door when I play Doom... the wife doesn't like the things I say while playing lol

@@jaredjabouri7935 I've headphones on (obvs) but play in the living room/lounge, wife says she should have filmed me as I am 'worrying'.. it certainly gets my heart going tho, which can't be bad!

Awesome that you play doom at 63!!! Keep on gaming!

@@julien2231 Haven't stopped since Asteroids at the arcade at 19. It does keep your reflexes sharp (or sharper as the case may be) Yep, PC gamer for life

@@jaquestraw1 I am a smidge younger but i have been gaming since i was a tot. On slight side note my mum heading into her 80s had an array of animal crossing gear and blew out at least one disc. haha. No excuse not to game

@@Areyousayingidontknowmyname good for her!

Take heart. I'm literally half your age, and there is no way in hell I could do DOOM without the soundtrack either.

it's really the epitome of "i'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me!"

I had never played a Doom game until Doom Eternal, because of the soundtrack! I loved every second of the game

As someone that has played Doom games since the 90's... I think this is the most accurate way to describe the music. Hell (no pun intended), even Doom II from back in the 90's has bangers here and there. Mick just revved it up to a maximum.

if you can, do yourself a favor. the doom series is one of my absolute favorites, i have played every single game. (i beat doom 2 on ds lmao)

@@n0t_the_plague_doctor343 now try it on a Pregnancy test

This is why sometimes limitations by corporate can actually be good things for creativity.

He tried to do it without guitar, realized that made no sense and got the ok to use guitar.

...This didn't happen at all. There are no chainsaws used lol.

@@fish1234567890 I literally just googled "did mick Gordon use a chainsaw to make the doom soundtrack" and it came up instantly. Try again

He used some kind of AI tool to blend 9-string guitar with the chainsaw sound sample from the original DOOM game

when people start talking about keys, time signatures etc I'm just "I like your funny words, magic man"

Its almost like in sherlock holmes when time slows down around benedict cumberpatch hints are printed all over the place when he deducts...

I'm really good at music, but I couldn't hear the key. That is very difficult to learn, but a talent some people have, called absolute hearing. Ofcourse if you are very, very experienced you might make a lucky guess, he could also have cheated with having something on the screen to help him. But mostly when people quickly hear the key they have an absolute hearing. Very impressive indeed and not very common.

@@GameCyborgCh It's simple really, it's just a straight 4/4 at roughly 90 bpm, but with lots of syncopation in the guitar riffs. Melodically it seems to be a mixture between double harmonic major with Phrygian or perhaps harmonic minor flavouring here and there, with lots of chromatic runs, with the lead notes being the major 7th and minor 2nd/flat 2nd around the tonic. Harmonically it just sits around the root with occasional dips to the minor VII chord a whole tone down, until that section in the middle-eight...🤪 Yup music has lots of funny words. Taken me years to figure out even a bit, and now I've realised that after ~30 years of trying to learn it: I know jack sh*t about music. 😅

Facts

well, a good video game

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I mean why not? Isn't is patron requests?

You mean last thing on mars?

@@Axter6nah earth. It’s a song from eternal and that takes place on earth, or whats left of it.

I was looking to see if someone mentioned this. The music in DOOM is reactive to the players actions. It matches whatever actions the player makes.

And that is why it is 4/4, so he can switch between the parts.

Well you couldn't work out the segments longer than they are, because the longer they go on the harder they are to cut, and the more of an evolving narrative they embody, the greater the likelihood it clashes with the actual scene development.

​@@HoboGamingyou get low on health and surrounded it speeds up, you go in close it's more aggressive, you clear everything and are walking to the next area it will play the ""softer and calmer"" segments.

They did the same with the Manhunt OST. The music is mostly ambient sounds and instruments but when you get "in a situation" it switches over to lurid, 70s slasher movie themes and it's all done on the fly.

Yeah there's tons of guitar. In his own mind, Mick is a guitarist pretty much before all else it seems to me.

Yup yup very modern djent guitar tone, I can see how anyone new to mick Gordon wouldn’t have a clue though lol

Yeahhh, probably doesn't help that the mix is squished to hell so they pump really intensely against the drums - that definitely adds to the samples-on-a-grid vibe

@@AlkanetEXE Yeah, it's such a shame. The track still goes hard but it's definitely mangled by that.

​@@MusicByDamienA yeah, the notes being played are more commonly associated with a bass guitar, but the tonal quality doesn't really happen with the thick strings of a bass. Though there is definitely a bass track in there, it's just hard to notice because it's playing probably exactly the same notes.

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I blast both DOOM 2016 and DOOM Eternal’s Soundtrack in the stockroom at work. It really is the “Get Stuff Done” Playlist

Very recognizable! I have ADHD too and I love chaotic music to keep me focused, which sounds counter intuitive.

SAME DAWG

>:)

The DS3 OST is also amazing, Twin Princess and Sister Friede have a special place in my Heart.

Ludwig, The Accursed & Holy Blade, is amazing. It also follows a common trope in classical opera, a hero that falls from grace and becomes cursed.

100% agree it'd be a fun one for the channel

Maybe Tenebre Rosso Sangue from Ultrakill as well?

YES, would be perfect for him to react to!

He's a great composer but he's difficult to work with by his own admission having a habit of not communicating with studios and lying, that lack of professionalism is what caused the problems ultimately. Not that they didn't do him dirty but he's not exactly squeaky clean in the bethesda situation.

@@SahRuvaak What are you talking about "own admission of not communicating with studios and lying"? Go read his full post about the situation and you'll find that he bent over backwards trying to communicate with Bethesda and he got the runaround from them

@@citizenducktv9169 For example with KI he would make a track that they wouldn't have accepted and run them out of time to get it through, sure they're good tracks and they put up with it as such but it's still not a great idea. It's a he said she said and Mick Gordon has shown his colors in that regard before.

If what he says is true in his version of the story, no way does he have ANY blame beyond working without a signed contract. They announced "soundtrack by Mick Gordon" before they told him. He got backed into it. If I'm taking the word of Bethesda over someone else, the pod people have gotten me.

@@zburnham I'm pretty sure they both screwed eachother I don't know why you would take a megacorporation or an established liar's word as gospel. And as per usual the consumer got fucked in the end.

If you take it to the gym, you might just *become* a beast like the protagonist of the game. I did my reps at the church of iron last night and dropped by my dojo to say hi on the way back home. The 250lb 3 stripe black belt mma fighter just looked at me and laughed. I said I'd see the guys on Sunday for open mat. Good thing I'm actually a super gentle sparring partner. Hehehe

Damn dude, THAT'S SO COOL!! 😎

I 1000% Need to see Doug react to this above all else. Nobody reacts to it but it's soooo good

@@Morfalath ...Except that's not actually true. It was true for, like, two tracks in 2016 and Mick himself was like "yeah they let me use guitars after that"

@@colbyboucher6391 and then you have the gigachad casey edwards who just went for the dirtiest bass he could find instead of a guitar

​​@colbyboucher6391 im pretty sure he uses the "chainsaw" synth mixed with the 8 or 9 string to thicken it up

For me the Doom Soundtrack is the cover version of the 90s songs by Andrew Hulshult

This. I found (find!) it helps me to establish a rhythm for the mayhem. I'm old now with the reflexes of a three-toed sloth, and usually a preference for slower-paced 'stealth' games; I simply couldn't do a fast-paced fps without Mick Gordon's assistance.

After a while I find that there's not even any concentration, you stop thinking, you play, you run, you jump, you shoot, you smash everything, you don't stop, it becomes instinctive, as if you were entering a state of flow. And when the fight's over, it's all downhill again, you release the adrenaline you've built up over 5 minutes of fighting, but you didn't realise it. That's why Doom is so good.

Was it a 9 string? I thought it was an 8. Either way, it's well down into registers normally associated with bass, and doing the classic metal bass trick of following the guitar an octave lower doesn't really work cause that drops you off the bottom of the audible range.

@@reaganharder1480 It's a downtuned 8 string, which is standard for the Doom 2016/Eternal soundtracks. Usually in E standard (not regular E standard, it's an octave lower, which as standard tuning for an 8 string is F# makes it the 8 string version of D standard tuning)) but The Only Thing They Fear Is You is tuned to D, which is almost a 9 string pitch. However there are a couple songs that either use a different tuning or use a 9 string (I believe Super Gore Nest is in F standard, while the Nekreval theme is at 9 string pitches, though I'm not sure if Mick Gordon used a 9 string specifically. From Doom 2016, BFG Division is in 8 string E standard, but a decent number of the other songs (including I believe At Doom's Gate) use a 9 string.

Finally someone is backing up what they say instead of going "iT's tOtAlLy aLL lAwNmOwErs n ChAiNsAwS s0 k3WL"

​@@mf_ratIt's repeated a lot because it's true. "The only thing they fear is you" does have a heavily modified sample of a lawnmower going through Mick Gordon's extensive signal mix. One of the tracks from 2016 had the same, but with a chainsaw. It's not the only thing, nor is it the defining trait of either track, but it's there.

@@DemonstormlordYeah but people exaggerate it to hell (pun not intended). He was told not to use guitars initially, so he did experiment with different synth types and samples of lawnmowers and chainsaws, but they eventually added the guitars back in once the basis of the tracks were formed.

The original to awesome, too, if just for the "they managed to do that with MIDI!"

Agreed

I vote for insaneintherainmusic's cover of it 😂

Yeah I loved the AC version so much

Why not the argent metal (doom style) version of One Winged Angel?

yo

I actually saw the documentary on that. It's freaking genius that the game actually looks at the situation and literally stitches the different parts of the song together seamlessly to create a seemingly non repeating flow that keeps you in the moment with no hard cuts in tempo or intensity.

Also, people like to mention how Mick used a lot of "non instruments" to get the sounds, like drills and whatnot. But I think it leaves a lot of important context out. When he was called to make the soundtrack for Doom 2016, Mick Gordon was explicitly told not to use guitars, at all. So he fiddled with his modular synth until he finally found the combinations that have now became famous as defining traits of "argent metal". Only afterwards he was able to convince the studio to let him play the guitar. I think if you want to understand Doom's soundtrack without playing the game, the best you can do is check something from the 2016 OST, as those were mastered by Mick Gordon himself. And in the videos you can see what he uses the guitar for, and very visual explanations of why sometimes it feels like you can't place what mode he is playing in - it is easier to understand as what is playable on the guitar and what he can bend, instead of regular modes and keys. You know the time immemorial discussion of "what key is hey joe in" ? The chords are C - D - G - A - E (sort of, depends how you tune your guitar) You can read and write it as being in the key of G, A, Em, E.... however you like, but what I'd say is that it is in the key "Guitar" - the chord progression isn't a 4 -5 -1 from a certain key, but a 3 - 2 -1 of what you can play open on all strings of the guitar. So I'd argue that how "out of tune" Mick's however many string guitar is, and what notes the guitar is able to bend without becoming too unstable are the notes that "ask" to be played. So the half steps and progression of the root notes are explained by the embodied instrument, more so than from classical music theory.

Exactly.

Yeah, the game music has some unique requirements, one of the is "not being too much good all of sudden".

Final fantasy is different than Doom. Both gameplay and music-wise. In ff you wanna listen to boss mechanics, call-outs, abilities sound effects. Doom Eternal is more like a rhytm game, the more aggressive you are playing the dynamic sound mixing will adjust the music to the action, sound ques are not as important, but the music helps the adrenaline flow.

@@0ne0fmany 100% agreed