React vs Vue in 2023 - which is Best?

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React vs Vue in 2023 ... which is the best choice for developers.
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@aissa.bouguern Жыл бұрын

Being a Vue developer means you will have a quiet and peaceful life.

@StefanMischook Жыл бұрын

lol

@JoelRemix 10 ай бұрын

This is the best comment because it’s to the point and so true. ✌️

@DrWoofOfficial 10 ай бұрын

As a hobbyist coder I'm fine with this

@daveyjonesx 8 ай бұрын

@wahidindenikurniawan7886 3 ай бұрын

True 😂

@phojie6868 11 ай бұрын

Summary: 1. If you work for yourself go for VUE (your own company/startup) 2. If you work for someone else go for REACT (someone's company)

@gagangurung5297 10 ай бұрын

ture love vue but when i see the job market i regret why didn't i go with react

@ricardomonge2769 Жыл бұрын

Vue just feels more natural. I like Svelte as well. React is just for money, but no love for it.

@wenranyan9999 11 ай бұрын

You are Evan YOu's trumpet, right?

@mr.passdope1748 9 ай бұрын

And you are Zuck's trumpet, right ? @@wenranyan9999

@audujoel1736 9 ай бұрын

So true

@neneodonkor 8 ай бұрын

@@wenranyan9999 so I guess someone who loves React is a Meta trumpet the? 🤷🏾‍♂️

@jsonkody 2 ай бұрын

@@wenranyan9999 you are fcb lizard man himself trumpet, right?

@ryanleemartin7758 11 ай бұрын

It's kind of hilarious that React still calls itself a library and not a framework.

@gagangurung5297 10 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@Cognitoman 3 ай бұрын

It’s not a framework though

@mgs_4k198 10 ай бұрын

I use both. I find Vue to be more intuitive than React. React seems like it's simple at first, but it has a lot of caveats. Sometimes React makes you jump through hoops to achieve things that you would think should be simple to do

@miguelalarcon2972 10 ай бұрын

making custom interactions and animations in react is pure pain

@user-jb4cn3jd3b 6 ай бұрын

What i like to add is other than intuitive, Vue seems to be more reactive (ironic, huh) that react itself in my honest opinion 😅

@StephenAinsworth1 Жыл бұрын

I just really struggle with React, no idea why. Vue on the other hand works well with Laravel via Inertia so that's a massive motivation for me

@jrmc732 Жыл бұрын

Maybe you need to learn JavaScript first?

@jwoods9659 11 ай бұрын

@@jrmc732NO React is for advanced developers that have been doing it for a while also I dislike how many things are done in React its old school way of doing things and that is fine. I like Svelte and and like Vue shame nearly all the jobs are in React. I would not say anyone should jump into React first unless it clicks with them. You have to be a good developer, not a good framework developer. React bro attitude its dumb

@shorthub_69 10 ай бұрын

@@jrmc732Vue really goes well with Laravel bro.

@saadhabashneh5587 9 ай бұрын

@@jwoods9659facts

@audujoel1736 9 ай бұрын

Feels like php is making vue much more complicated but it still okay

@II__zeus__II 11 ай бұрын

Been working with Vue for 3 years and I love it. Never really had a reason to learn other frameworks honestly.

@lphoogenboom 4 ай бұрын

I love how extremely casual this video is. No annoying background music, no hyped up narration, no pretending how it will change your life using either of those. Love it.

@5958637 Ай бұрын

True

@deecee2204 Жыл бұрын

i learned Vue first and painfully learning React because most job sites require react. i just feel like everything you do inreact is 3x harder/complex

@theworldismine7788 Жыл бұрын

How much time it took you to learn Vue?

@techforsolution2505 Жыл бұрын

@@theworldismine7788Knowing react already, it took me a week only. I watched KZfaq tutorials and read the legacy code which was written nicely. After a week I started maintaining the code. The advanced parts, I learned as I work on tasks. Nothing much complex.

@theworldismine7788 Жыл бұрын

@@techforsolution2505 what if you just know JavaScript and Vue is the first framework you want to learn?

@JuriBinturong Жыл бұрын

@@theworldismine7788 same for me, it took me 1 week to learn the bare minimum of Vue to build interfaces, it's simple.

@deecee2204 Жыл бұрын

@@theworldismine7788 vue fancy stuff in 2 weeks. on react figured out why a simple onMounted/useEffect is even triggered twice on 1 week.

@sebastiancastillo3560 Жыл бұрын

I'm learning react and is very painful. For me and for enjoy development, Vue is amazing!, especially with the composition api, but it's hard to find work with vue so far. Choose Vue to build new products for your own startup!

@kingnick6260 Жыл бұрын

After coding in HTML & PHP (and at one point Macromedia Flash) for a thousand years and later transitioning to React without much thought, I'm surprised there are communities with maximalists between React / Vue / Angular / etc. For me, React just gets the job done

@StefanMischook Жыл бұрын

100%

@bhutchin1996 Жыл бұрын

ActionScript. It's amazing how much that language changed from Flash 4 to 5 when it began to become based on ECMAScript. I did support for Macromedia almost up to the point in time when Adobe acquired them, from Flash 4 to MX 2004.

@sicfxmusic 10 ай бұрын

@@bhutchin1996 Reading your comment makes me feel old. 🤣🤣

@michimo84 8 ай бұрын

And vue 3 times better :)

@samuellarico5364 Жыл бұрын

Vue has the best of angular and react

@jefferymuter4659 Жыл бұрын

Fell in love with React, but my bootcamp teaches Vue because they partner with some big insurance companies/banks that are(were) desperately looking for Vue devs. I'm happy to learn both. I'm getting to the point where I'm getting very happy working with different libraries/frameworks. Part of the reason I love Tailwind is because my JS/CSS/HTML all becomes visible in one file thanks to react&tailwind. I know Vue helps but all the css is in a different location. But, tailwind can really make some massive css files behind the hood so you've got to wonder about compile times with it. Anyways. Both are great, as you try to find jobs, either is fine imo. Any react dev could convert to vue, and vice versa, but getting your resume to shine, I think targeting tech that has a lower population of devs is generally smart.

@StefanMischook Жыл бұрын

Good comment.

@davidthewise6617 Жыл бұрын

@@StefanMischook Just reminder uncle Steph Be neomian and live in NEOM So you can have the possibility Of living for 1000 years

@kapilgidwani Жыл бұрын

@@StefanMischook Good comment.

@Adjust91 Жыл бұрын

Very true. I think that's why I'm so attracted to Svelte. It's new, it's very simple and powerful, and I think in a few more years it'll start to really shine in the market.

@dominuskelvin Жыл бұрын

Interesting, I'm creating a job board specifically for companies to get Vue developers, do you mind sharing these companies/banks perhaps via email?

@singmantkpss Жыл бұрын

As a newbie, I like this kinda content! Go through hot topics together with Stefan.

@jonasex3001 Жыл бұрын

As someone who worked professionally with both, I can tell that compared to vue, react is horse shit.

@StefanMischook Жыл бұрын

We use Vue because when looking at React at the time ... I preferred Vue. But it has been a while since I looked at React.

@MarioCheong-lu5hb Жыл бұрын

Can you compare with flutter?

@JoseGarcia-vr8mx Жыл бұрын

Great video! Thank you for making it Stefan!

@leoporto82 2 ай бұрын

Very good video. Id like to see the article comparing the two technologies. Your link to killersites is broken.

@DanAlmenar Жыл бұрын

I landed a job last year precisely because the pool of Vue devs is very small, which worked on my behalf since I had much more experience in Vue (transitioning from 2 to 3 at the moment, so I got into it at the best possible time). I've used React, Vue and Svelte and they are all good. Haven't tried Angular and maybe I wont, I don't know

@transforgoku Жыл бұрын

Unless you want to work for big corpos, learn typescript, learn rxjs and do things the angular way (rigid way, one mistake and the shit won't compile), I'd recommend *staying away from it.* I'm currently learning it and is hard because wtf is an observable and why do I have to use RxJS for everything ffs, anyway, I think learning Angular as your first FE framework is an overkill, but it's worth it in the long run since there's always demand for Angular developers and most newcomers are afraid of this mess (with good reason).

@caterpilar 11 ай бұрын

@@transforgoku it is the essense of overkill, yes! But typescript is the thing you should really learn no matter what, it just saves time in any middle size + project

@transforgoku 11 ай бұрын

@@caterpilar Oh yeah, I leave everything as type ANY in TS, it's very convenient :)

@BelleMorue 8 ай бұрын

Although I initially began learning Angular, I found that vue.js was much easier to grasp. In my opinion, rather than solely focusing on frameworks, it is more crucial to hone one's core skills, such as CSS, HTML, and JavaScript. Additionally, having an understanding of browser engine rendering is a more valuable use of time than striving to master every framework out there.

@nordeenrassul9321 Жыл бұрын

vue js more organized then react. with react I feel overwhelmed. vue js as seperet between js and html/css code. Just Love it

@baileyburnsed4352 Жыл бұрын

The Jobs Count Vs Dev Count is a good argument. My Hoby is game development with the Godot engine. Godot is gowing in adoption in building commercial games and AR/VR apps. There are more Unity Game/App development jobs but far for unity developers. Unity development basicly is a low pay job at this point but every time I consulted some company on Godot I made $150/h. But there are almost no Godot Jobs, I just build my AR/VR apps and mobile games with godot.

@eddielacrosse2 Жыл бұрын

As an Angular guy, I support this lol

@TayambaMwanza Жыл бұрын

Cathartic

@kiambojyms2196 Жыл бұрын

I use Vue, React or Angular according to the situation and sometimes the Clients consideration.

@waffle8364 11 ай бұрын

I've always felt friction with React but Vue was so much easier to understand.

@greendsnow 11 ай бұрын

Friction? No that's sand paper

@LoneLeagle Жыл бұрын

React Native might be the main reason I have to choose React over Vue because my social media apps will require mobile versions that I will frequently update. I'd love to hear your take on Neo4j and property graph databases in general. I think graph databases could become the new standard relational database after companies create systems to easily convert SQL databases to graph databases.

@mmadictos5356 Жыл бұрын

flutter

@LoneLeagle Жыл бұрын

@@mmadictos5356 I dismissed flutter because I kept seeing bad video reviews, and it would require me to learn another programming language. I have to master UI UX design, react, expressjs, databases, business, marketing, analysis & far more before I can start my tech company, so I'm trying to limit programming languages to full stack javascript.

@aavlasti 10 ай бұрын

Soon there will be no mobile applications. PWA is the future.

@JuriBinturong 9 ай бұрын

but vue has quasar

@saadhabashneh5587 9 ай бұрын

@@JuriBinturongquasar is gay

@realdaly 11 ай бұрын

Never tried Vue before and I'm working with NextJs which comes with perfect docs.

@ohwow2074 Жыл бұрын

Uncle Steff please tell us your thoughts about 911 GT3 RS 992. I'd even like to see you test driving one of those cars.

@drugoviic 9 ай бұрын

ive learnt both react and vue and i would recommend it, if you have a lot of free time

@jamiebrs1 Жыл бұрын

Vue allows for JSX as well, but not by default you have to add it in when youre doing your setup. I prefer Vue because I come from a background of "separation of concerns" and HATE seeing HTML inside my Javascript so I HATE JSX.

@njokunneoma9728 8 ай бұрын

Finally someone has said exactly what i have been thinking

@joecater894 Жыл бұрын

I think type script is a good one to grab.

@wcdeich4 10 ай бұрын

Why does Vue produce dist/js/152.js and dist/js/187.js files? Even when I turn off chunk splitting, I can't stop it from producing 2 extra files, dist/js/152.js and dist/js/187.js.

@Ivan-qp8yd 11 ай бұрын

React really cool Using vue3 is more interesting for me like new experience but I was confused using ref and composable function because I lose many times reactivity take time to learn more about vue3 it is not vue2 at all I would recommend learn both frameworks they are super cool

@olgu6877 Жыл бұрын

I was checking your videos comparing Vue and react just a couple of hours u published this video is this coincidence 😂 iam shocked

@tomashromnik108 Жыл бұрын

I quit a job. I was looking for a job in Europe: 85% of jobs was React, 10% Angular, 4% Vue, 1% pure JavaScript or Svelte. Salary in React 3000 - 8000€/month according to experience and location. Salary in Angular similar than React, but even more than 8k€/month sometimes. Salary in Vue 3000 - 7000€/month.

@nested9301 11 ай бұрын

100% JQUEERY

@sandeepkoli1112 3 ай бұрын

Thank you Stefan for awesome video.

@StefanMischook 3 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@shariar13877 Жыл бұрын

Angular is getting bright future with breaking changes

@kuoyulu6714 11 ай бұрын

How to manage one's mind is really interesting

@federicobau8651 7 ай бұрын

Worth saying that for most part this video focus from point of view of developers (actually more future developer) that are looking what to pick up to study and get a job. Saying this cuz this cuz this comparison could be searched for other purposes, could be one senior software engineer looking for migration from old legacy code or some start ups. Despite information given here are still valuable in all.cases is focused on one specific case

@araputrevor5103 Жыл бұрын

I LOVE VUEJS SOOOOO MUCH. It just feels more organized than reactJS. And I believe react may actually be easier to learn than vueJS.

@hamzaessaadi7569 10 ай бұрын

no react is harder than vue

@saadhabashneh5587 9 ай бұрын

React is harder

@Dipj01 9 ай бұрын

React is much harder, especially with the libraries that you'll need with React to make anything remotely useful

@ilahazs 8 ай бұрын

react is harder daddy

@garyhost612 Жыл бұрын

Vue! 💚 with Nuxt!

@Septumsempra8818 Жыл бұрын

Recently react is up in the air. Router changed then Next changed. Now there are no good tutorials that completely cover a project.

@ainbrisk545 11 ай бұрын

thank you for the insight

@StefanMischook 11 ай бұрын

Welcome!

@JuanAcosta-fm2xr 6 ай бұрын

My opinion between react and vue. Vue seems more natural and more straightforward for me specially after they released vue 3 with the composition API. I feel that the learning curve of react is way higher but is a little more flexible . I think vue is amazing specially if you use another framework with it like quasar or nuxt.

@KolyaKovt 4 ай бұрын

I love Vue. I learned react first though. But on my first job, the team didn't work with React, they only worked with Vue. First I was disapointed, but two days later I didn't wanna go back. Peace✌.

@Adjust91 Жыл бұрын

It's very hard for me to appreciate React, when I already know Svelte and Vue.

@SitodaGu 9 ай бұрын

I had some experience with React but Vue 3 with typescript just tingles my dingles much more

@elian6019 Жыл бұрын

Lol! I also live in MTL, got an Audi quattro wagon AWD for Quebec winters and a 911 (1985) for summer and road trips. 😉And yes, our roads are the worst.

@caterpilar 11 ай бұрын

Yeah just chose based on job market situation, they're not that different The only thing is - avoid Angular, if you don't have prior dev experience

@jasonwelsh417 10 ай бұрын

I make good money with React so React is best (for me). If for some reason I need to use Vue to make good money then Vue will be best. The best is what pays the bills.

@Skylla54 Жыл бұрын

The never ending story : D I feel more connected to Vue, so i do Vue. I guess the no big cooperation nature is the thing. I know, when i watch stefs first version of react vs vue. Meen, i already had a GameDev Background but this WebDev Thing is mindblowing. But overall I reccomend, just keep going. Its a lot, but managable. The classical Path looks like: Figma (UI/UX) HMTL, CSS, JS. Then build your own framework (ask gpt to guide you). Then you understand the problem what they try to solve. Then jump into a Framework. (State, ClientRouting, Hooks) Then make a Website in a day. If you are too slow, because of CSS or something, do it again. Then learn Node and create an API Then learn a Database (NoSql or Sql) Then make an API in a day, keep it stupid simple. If you are too slow, do it again. Then create a UI, Code the UI, rip the Data out, Push it into a DB, Make an API, Connect DB and API, Connect API and Code, Fill the created Holes again. If you are too slow, do it again. Then learn a Metaframework. Then create a UI, Code the UI, rip the Data out, Push it into a DB, Make an API, Fill the the created Holes. If you are too slow, do it again. 🥳🥳🥳YOU DID IT🥳🥳🥳 Now make 5 Websites for 5 Friends in 5 Days.

@saadhabashneh5587 9 ай бұрын

You mean gamedev is easier?

@Skylla54 9 ай бұрын

@@saadhabashneh5587 nah, hard as well. It's wild everywhere, I wanna say 😅

@tyaho83 10 ай бұрын

Vue sans hésiter ! Pour son organisation de code, sa facilité d'apprentissage et ses performances ! :)

@lucasblanc1295 8 ай бұрын

Bah, d'accord! In French it just hits differently to read the word Vue 😂. It's like in English React is an actual word.

@LaminarRainbow 4 ай бұрын

Thank you!!

@ncubica Жыл бұрын

The discussion about svelte vs vue vs react is futile to useless at best, it just doesn't matter. If you think one pattern feels better than the other one is just because you want to go with your less resistant path, not because is better. Spoiler alert the three will do the job great.

@audujoel1736 9 ай бұрын

Talking about terrible roads, have you seen the roads in Nigeria... They will ruin your car. Nice video. I find it hard to get a remote vue jobs, what do I do?

@StefanMischook 9 ай бұрын

I've done videos on this. Check my KZfaq channel.

@ejazalam6512 9 ай бұрын

the action in 6:21 is just amazing

@StefanMischook 9 ай бұрын

Lol😂 years of practice.

@shaunweinberg2463 Жыл бұрын

No Blazor? Thats disappointing, since Blazor United might be a game changer switching between server and wasm

@jadedrepublic 10 ай бұрын

I'll always love Vue, but the React native aspect always draws me into it. I've been using capacitor which Is great, but I've always kicked myself for not going down the react native route. Vue desperately needs an alternative.

@JuriBinturong 9 ай бұрын

we use quasar for vue, quasar is built for vue 3 and nuxt, our architecture is on microservices using laravel, and rails in the backend with some python for our apis.

@kalakalan772 5 ай бұрын

Do you appreciate: Vue3.js+Django+Django Rest API???

@RA-xx4mz Жыл бұрын

Vue is top notch. So simple. I have to use React at work, though 😢

@fun2rideadventure Жыл бұрын

Svelte is the best from the two :) !!!

@hanes2 Жыл бұрын

Last year may had been React vs Vue, but this year is all about Next vs Nuxt. :P

@nsumbageofrey3095 Жыл бұрын

Guuys thanks for the Comments, as a junior dev, React will be priority then Vue next.

@tikohost Жыл бұрын

Any places where I can learn Vue for free.?

@StefanMischook Жыл бұрын

Go to the view site. Just be sure you know your fundamentals of web development.

@eman5331 Жыл бұрын

good comparison

@Vatz90 Жыл бұрын

You have to hear this sound at 6:18 at 1.75x. 😁 (Great video though)

@ddmozz Жыл бұрын

I have a used Fiat 147 from 1989 :(

@milancakic232 Жыл бұрын

Angular

@marvinfok65 Ай бұрын

I am had been in React for a few years, but been hearing good things about Vue. Think, i will try Vue.

@michimo84 8 ай бұрын

React is a good choice only if you are serching for job or if you need new deleopers faster.....at the moment at least...

@gtbaba123 4 ай бұрын

Vue is beginner friendly but 95% of companies use angular or react which is complicated if you are new to JS. cz from React to Vue its easy for person to which while vice versa is really hard. So choose according to you convenience. I would say if you are backend engineer and trying to go for full stack go for Vue. Else React

@Zaph_Kiel Жыл бұрын

you spelled sveltekit wrong

@___Kevin 7 ай бұрын

Vue made more sense to me while React felt like it's more artificial

@karolis5358 Жыл бұрын

I love vue, but the biggest advantage of react is react native. It would be awesome if we would get robust vue native in vue ecosystem.. But as far as I know there's no such plans for that.

@ojvribeiro Жыл бұрын

NativeScript Vue

@tyaho83 10 ай бұрын

@@ojvribeiro still maintained?

@ojvribeiro 10 ай бұрын

@@tyaho83 Yep.There's a beta version now supporting Vue 3.

@JuriBinturong 9 ай бұрын

Quasar for Vue exists. I'm using it right now.

@fancyAlex1993 Жыл бұрын

I remember learning Vue 2 , i was surprised how intuitive it was, especially the option API and I was introduced to the concept of Spa. Then Vue 3 came out , the composition api looks like it took away the simplicity that vue 2 came with. Then i learned React JS i just felt more connected to it and I am using react Js ever since.

@pejko89 Жыл бұрын

But you can still use options api in vue 3

@bukunmikuti Жыл бұрын

The composition API needs some getting used to, but it generally gets intuitive as you continue to use it. I transitioned from vue 2 to 3 and experienced same difficulty. I now prefer the composition API.

@ojvribeiro Жыл бұрын

Options API is not deprecated. You can still use it.

@lucabaxter4002 Жыл бұрын

Now if you know well react, vue with composition api is the same, actually i prefer the fact that you can have global state just exporting the reactive variable from a file, something you cannot do in React, and then Pinia man is amazing.

@gagangurung5297 10 ай бұрын

@@ojvribeiro but it feel akward to use in vue 3

@joecater894 Жыл бұрын

In the UK vast amount of webdev / software jobs are PHP, wordpress and the core web techs. To be honest, something I'm trying to avoid. React fairly rare on the job sites. Angular prob much more common I'm seeing in the UK. I do like react though; Wanted to learn NextJS & react , but whenever I see react jobs its always an after thought in the job specs normally. But changed my mind and decided to focus on angular.

@boshhh123 Жыл бұрын

hows it going? I'm a full stack dev with React and Flutter on frontend, Node on the backend. Thinking of learning Next as seeing quite a few companies are looking for React devs with Next experience

@Daaboo 3 ай бұрын

well, we all know that every employer now days expect us to be ultra neo full stack developer and manage to carry as much experience as a whole IT department so learning both is not just good its expected!!!! tssssssssssssss if i only could restart my life i would just do gardening or something instead.....

@nadjinmalade8738 9 ай бұрын

I use Booth but Vue for me is really simpler. Vue is fater (Perfomance) Easy to learn Not too many Hooks like in react And feel more natural. Reat is just good because of reactive native.

@27sosite73 7 ай бұрын

thank you

@StefanMischook 7 ай бұрын

You're welcome

@ivangechev4243 Жыл бұрын

I learned React first and now I am working with VueJS and I don't like VueJS as much as React I don't know if that will change in the future, but for now that's how it is.

@Gaijin101 9 ай бұрын

1) Nuxt 2) Next 3) Vue 4) React Im so done after having to upgrade 20+ react repos at work.

@bilalnaseer6242 Жыл бұрын

React community + tutorials are easily available

@mentalmarvin Жыл бұрын

Ruby usage goes up, PHP usage (and salaries) plummets, and Vue is still miles ahead from React unlike what you predicted. I don't like it either, I've moved on to Rust, but your predictions over the years are just predictions.

@JuriBinturong Жыл бұрын

In our shop we are using Vue 3 + Rails going forward now.

@GeneraluStelaru Жыл бұрын

Svelte.

@SaintAriyel Жыл бұрын

I started using Vue at my new (and first) dev job with no training, only learned the basics for a few days. I was impressed by how simple it was and easy to figure out. Barely used any documentation because the code is so easy to understand. Plus I really enjoy using HTML and JS.

@haliszekeriyaozkok4851 Жыл бұрын

I think front-end frameworks doesn't matter much except if tey aren't used with their server-side rendering frameworks. I personally learned jquery later than react and i prefer it, it satisfies all of my needs with vanilla js. I think that rules they force you to obey makes that frameworks cost too much if there is no ssr frameworks involved.

@1Malak16 Жыл бұрын

On real projects, that involes dosens of pages and hundreds of components You would appreciate something like React much more. Can't imagine that such things are written with jquery. It's possible in theory but working on such project would be agonizing

@haliszekeriyaozkok4851 Жыл бұрын

@@1Malak16 on a recent time i worked about a real estate website that involves bunch of sliders, advanced search forms(with tons of districts and cities) and all the hard work done in 1 month and that website has 40-50 page and 50-60 components on total. I made that website with firebase-express-jquery-vanilla js stack. Making sliders and advanced search forms with react would be very slow and terrible because of that re-rendering and virtual dom things and massive bundle size. Yes, if they're basic and usually all are use the same components react could be very practical but that was not my case, i don't use most of the components more than 1 or 2 pages.