If Toyota says it doesn't need it then whatever but if the window sticker says the truck has one then it should have it. It's included in the price. I'd make Toyota install one.

Hey Tim. I bought a 2020 tundra platinum and saw the cooler indicated on the sales sticker. Sounds like Toyota needs to recall all the 2019 and 2020 tundras and get the cooler installed. If the temps are better with the cooler then why not have it. Its added protection for the transmission. I think all of us need to call our state AG or the U.S. AG and have them investigate this under consumer protection. Toyota falsely advertised for something the truck didnt have and the dealers didnt even know. Smells like a class action lawsuit to me and I am on board!!!

The owner needs to contact Toyota and inform them that the sticker states it has a transmission cooler and they better put one in. They can correct the issue for me now or deal with my attorney and the FTC. There are problems when the vehicle doesn't match the sticker. Government problems.

The cooler a transmission runs the longer it last. That's a fact. If Toyota says u have a transmission cooler and u buy the truck and don't have it the attorneys will have a payday on a class action.

Just throwing this out there but even the ancient Nissan Frontier has an external transmission cooler. Come on Toyota!

The Temps he posted are WITHOUT towing a trailer, how can you or Toyota say they are within spec if he NEVER even gave his temps WHILE HE WAS ACTUALLY TOWING?

How can they say that the temps are “within range” if the high temp warning is going off? On a brand new truck? That was a mistake by Toyota, removing the cooler on that ancient powertrain.

I just installed one myself. My temps without the cooler where around 225-250. Now it stays around 195. I want my transmission as cool as possible to help the oil last longer and reduce wear on transmission

They are just calling it normal temperature while like all car manufacturers just hoping the transmission lasts out of warranty and then they will be happy to sell you another.

It appears to be a Monroney sticker violation. Consult an attorney that handles those types of cases.

I experienced the same issue Received this warning light HIGH TRANSMISSION TEMP FLUID after 3 hrs on the road with no load ( just me and my wife). I made complain to Toyota USA and got case number. have my vehicle checked by local dealer. Mechanic drove the vehicle for 30 mins - tested - no issue found. Keep In mind I told them the warning light illuminated after 3 hrs. What we need to do is call Toyota USA let them know you’re experienced with high temp to the transmission once they received enough complaints from consumers then hope they will look at this issue and come out with Service bulletin. Having boiling hot oil 250 - 280 degrees feeding the components without cooling system that’s just bad engineering in my book.

Great video Tim .. again that answer from Toyota is b.s .. they try and blame the warning light on a faulty sensor ... Come on .. really !? Plus the Toyota fluid is a semi synthetic . Which will degrade even quicker with high heat like this .. so long story short . Yes nothing bad will happen right now at such a low mileage ... But these increased trans temps will definitely shorten the life span of the fluid and if fluid changes are not done more frequently it will overall shorten the life of the transmission . With my 2019 I have been proactive and retrofitted my truck with a external trans cooler . Now my trans temps hold steady around 200 degrees while towing my 7000lb travel trailer . Tundra owners need to know that there is a solution to this problem . You can easily install Toyota parts to have a real trans cooler again .

Heat in trans is never good. May b within range but how bout longevity? Toyota may be saving money by removing trans cooler reliability is why toyota has the reputation they have. I think this is huge mistake on toyotas part.

Ok as a Tundra owner with an old 2008 TRD Supercharger (and other performance upgrades, crank/flywheel horsepower around 650bhp and 700lb ft torque, also is 4x4 Crewmax SR5 w/towing package AND external transmission cooler, I've burnt two transmissions mainly from just having too much horsepower to not hurt the unmodified transmission but when I've had issues the cooler lines had trash, debris blocking or obstructing flow to the cooler (located very front of condenser/radiator/Supercharger intercooler/and approximately 8"x14" offset to my passenger side) since having my problems I've researched and have had several guys say they've even added ANOTHER external cooler either piggybacking the factory installed unit or remove the OEM cooler for a larger cooler. Most has both still as I do IN ADDITION to having "pinned the transmission thermostat in the open position." The info to do this can easily be found on the internet. These transmissions are VERY sensitive to high temps and the temps shown here on an unloaded truck while driving normally at highway speeds is WAYYY higher than should be. My truck wouldn't see 190 to 200°F while pulling 6k pounds! Why did Toyota stop including this inexpensive but important component, this cooler only runs $125-200 for an aftermarket cooler that's much larger than the factory cooler. The cooler is the life blood of your expensive 6-speed auto and with a brand new truck I do not recommend adding a cooler but MAKE TOYOTA replace as many as possible until they recall the trucks and add coolers! One can't just add a cooler without the sending line and routed through radiator, return line back to the transmission (without an external cooler there's no "lines" to connect it to! Toyota must run those lines and honor the warranty. *I would recommend "pinning" your thermostat but remember to take 2 minutes to pull the pin before going in for service while under warranty! My 12 year old truck can tow a lot, as long as it's not overheating it'll last, I live in south Louisiana and it's brutally hot right now. I have also upgraded my radiator to an all aluminum radiator because another cheap but critical component that will start leaking at the plastic after 5 or so years. I'd save my breath with the Stealerships and get extended warranty and save the paperwork and document everything, the thing that will ultimately need to be decided is to either keep replacing a transmission or simply add a cooler and the lines to send/return fluid. I'm pretty surprised this happened, it's not a secret these transmissions have shown to be highly sensitive to overheating or heat in general. Hopefully if you've read all of this and have any questions or want further elaboration email me Safetypete1@gmail.com and I'll gladly show you what my cooling system looks like, how to pin the thermostat in 5 minutes for $0.25 or I can send you to the sites and groups who know more about this than myself. This is a headscratcher bigtime.

I bought my 2019 specifically to tow a camper. I had no idea at the time. I assumed it was the same tried and true design. Why remove it after all those years?

Toyota corporate should listen 👂 to u and us . Good luck 🍀

Class action lawsuit against toyota anyone????

Why would they remove the cooler but not lower the price of the trucks? Toyota has shit the bed once again.

He clearly said in the email that the OBD2 numbers were WITHOUT a trailer. The warning light was coming on WITH a trailer. So the Toyota guy saying “those numbers are within range...” no crap, those weren’t the numbers under load.

I was disappointed to find out in my 2019 after the fact of buying it, that it didn’t have the transmission cooler when it said it did on the sticker. Not much to do now but drive it. Great video Tim. Thanks

I'm sure that when Toyota examined the million mile trucks, they realized they needed them to break down sooner in order to make more money in the parts and service department. In the short-term, lack of a cooler is no problem, but in the long run we'll see.

Toyota should recall all 2019-2020 Tundras. The trucks were clearly not built to the standards played out by their own window sticker. Toyotas answer on that is not acceptable. Yes the 227 is within the acceptable range but that is already warm so when you add a trailer of course it will overheat.

2020 tundra owner here and I'm very concerned because with the trans. cooler it still will be cooler and it would be even better... and it's on the sticker and charged and paid for!!! They should recall all trucks and add it on!!! I would be much happier and I'm sure all owners who bought these two Year Tundras would agree!!! Come on Toyota you never let us down before and I'm sure your not going to let us down now!!!

I will give you "Toyota safety sense" cruise but will take away your transmission cooler to keep things equal.......Toyota CEO

I have an old trans fluid temperature chart from an old mechanics book. The chart states acceptable operating temps are under 190 for unloaded driving. Towing range is no higher than 240. These temperatures are too high.

Heck yes I would be concerned. First off, your contact at Toyota is pretending that the temp reading were taken while towing and the truck owner said it was taken while unloaded. If it's approaching 250 in town it certainly would be over 280 while pulling 9000 lbs up a grade. Second, full life of transmission is available when operated under 200 degrees. At 220 degrees life is cut in half. Maybe new synthetic transmission fluid will not break down until 280, but what about everything else in there? In any case, I would spend the $ to get an aftermarket transmission cooler added. I like to keep my vehicles past 150k and transmission replacement is so darn expensive.

The window sticker for my 2018 has the same exact description of the tow package

Here is the video interview we did with Toyota's chief engineer Mike Sweers about the transmission oil cooler issue and other top questions from this channel: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hLuoedt-xqi1c6s.html

Toyota is looking at these people profiting on transmission cooler kits. That might make them rethink and start installing themselves these missing parts.

I just bought my 2020 limited tundra 4x4 and I was towing 7,000 pounds and the same warning light came on I guess am stuck with it till they get something fix

I think that if the engineers at Toyota have designed a transmission to take those kind of temps, then go with it. Just because the Big 3 burns out transmissions at those temps shouldn't be a concern for Tundra owners... Toyota had REAL engineers and not just wannabees....

Dang right that is too hot.

Almost traded my 15 on a 20 until I found out about this!

Thanks for the high reading clarification on the 2019/20 Tundras.. Keep up the ongoing analysis work.

Obviously the temps were higher when he was towing... I can attest to the fact that it will be well into the 250 range or above and stay there towing something that big... That being said, a 29’ 9k lb trailer is WAY too much trailer for this truck, period! Toyota has YET to tell us what their “acceptable range” is, and the fact that they set out to delete something that can do NOTHING BUT HELP LONGEVITY speaks for itself! Also, EVERY other half ton with a tow pack has one! Lol. C’mon Toyota, you’re hurting your reputation with one of the most loyal consumer bases in the world!

Well on the bright side, at least you didn't get a 2020 Dodge Ram. Lol

He said that wasn’t pulling the trailer for those temps...he needs to let us know what it comes up to when the light kicks on.

Those are not normal, I have LC200 and it has a huge cooler and my readings are around 140F to 180F !!

My 2019 Tundra 4.6L DOES NOT MEET SAE J2807 STANDARDS towing my 3000 lbs trailer.

No transmission cooler? WTF!!!

So if tundra shopping look for an 18 ?

I've been a fan of Toyota's for decades. I've owned three Camry's and currently own 2008 Lexus is350 and a 2018 Tundra Limited TRD Pro 4x4. Big mistake getting rid of the Transmission Cooler on the New Tundra's.

Funny how Toyotas excuse as always - when you get as big as gm you are going to have these problems !

I have a 2021 Tundra Nightshade and pull my ASV RT 40 track loader with no issues

Toyota dropped over 30 things from my 2007 and 2012 tundra sr5s compared to the 2017 sr5 I currently own. I am looking elsewhere for my next truck, I only hope the next one can match the only reason I have been sticking with Toyota, the unquestioned reliability. Toyota is ruining this vehicle.

2016 has the exact same description but we have the trans cooler on it! Toyota should make this right, and fix the sticker!

Lucky my 2017 Sequoia has the thermostatically controlled cooler. I just towed my 6300lb trailer 6 hours straight with the ambient temp being 35°C. Temp gauge for the trans and engine never moved and I was giving it hell up the hills with the A/C blasting too. Still impressed with it every time I tow. My wife primarily drives it because I have a company car and she absolutely loves it too.

If the Monroney label says it has one Toyota needs to install one. Simple as that.

I have a 2019 Tundra Platinum and pull a 25’ Airstream. Was recently in hilly Chattanooga and had the Trans Fluid high temp caution message pop up. It was a quick message and then gone, twice. My concern is why have a warning if it’s not a concern?

I have a 2019 Tundra 4.6L, my trailer is half the rated 6500lbs capacity. I monitor the temps with a ScanGauge2 and thought it also ran really hot. I’ll probably end up with the new Ford Diesel F150.

I have a 2019 and my Sticker shows it has the transmission cooler but it does not!!! My 2019 transmission is overheating when NOT towing. When climbing a mountaintop with only tools in the truck, the overheat light comes on every time I climb this same mountain that is only 3759 feet tall. Toyota needs to put the cooler on the 2019 & 2020 Tundras. The sticker shows it has a transmission cooler. If it is the sensor, ALL sensors should be replaced under a recall.

This video was informative and helpful. Thanks

Woo Hoo 2019 and 2020 Tundra owners with tow package are going to get trans oil coolers. Sticker also indicates an engine oil cooler. Do they actually have one of those? F-150 has a dedicated trans temp gauge and you can also display in the center screen between the tach and speedometer.

Just lost my transmission on my 2008 at 155k. It was serviced at 120k as recommended by toyota. I do pull a 7k trailer and ran bigger off road tires on 2 inch lift. I need to get this odb2 app.. i was thinking of getting a new one but now just going to drive this after rebuilt.

Holy cow, that’s a drastic change in temperature. The hottest I’ve ran my transmission on my 2015 in the hot Texas summer is 212 degrees, that is after running a tune that increases your RPM to 6000, I was racing it that time. Normal temperature is anywhere between 190-200

Tim I bet your friend with the trail boss is really glad he didn't go tundra after seeing this video! He would probably have had the same problem if he is planning on getting a trailer

Toyota needs to tell us the number. While snow plowing, I've always kept the trans temp gauge showing on my GM trucks. I was always told that you should start watching it at 200, slow it down at 225 and shut it down (idle) well before anything close to 300. I realize they're different manufacturers and I have a lot more faith in Toyota's products, and they claim to be using a hi-temp fluid, but a 500 degree trans temperature redline? No way! This issue is keeping me from buying a Tundra. I wish they would resolve it. It is, however, good to learn from this video that there is at least a trans temp sensor and a warning screen!

So the temps he posted while empty are acceptable? Yes of course, it's the temps while towing that were the issue wasn't it?

They can't just delete that wording . If it was sold with that on the sticker they will have to install them on the truck . Your sticker is on a trd pro he has a sr5 big option difference. How bout a sticker from a sr5?

I agree with the guy. Toyota needs to do a service bulletin to install a cooler free of charge fo anyone who asks. That truck should be able to haul the heaviest trailer it’s rated for on the hottest day of the year up a mountain at highway speed without overheating the transmission or engine, if not then Toyota has a responsibility to fix it or reduce the rating of their vehicles.

Haha! Great opening. As a 2019 Tundra owner, I'll be keeping up with your excellent vids. Paul - Deep in the heart of Texas!

Good thing I got a 2015

Hey Tim , does this mean any tundra made before the real tow package went away is gold and any 2018 is the the wanted one ? Thanks

If you’re towing 9k pounds, you never should have bought a Tundra. Should have bought an F-250

Another reason I'm going to keep my 16 Tundra with 47K miles. Have cooler. Do not have all that safety stuff....After driving for 55 years I don't need a computer to tell me whether its ok to pass. Just sayin...

The fact they don’t want to give a specific number as to what’s considered a high temperature is suspicious

Lies...ALL of the Toyota guys tell us Big 3 guys that the Tundra can run dry on oil for a month and still drive like new!🤔🤣🤣. Seriously though, trans temps running higher than the engine coolant temp is never ever good. Even if Toyota says it is within "normal range", that does not bode well for longevity at all for the internals of the transmission.

I look forward to some interesting responses to this video Tim. Transmission cooler delete aside, their is no factory gauge to give transmission temperature in the Tundra EVIC? Are Toyota owners not privileged to this information? My Ram Hemi EVIC shows 180 wide open passing full temp.

And easy way to really find out about transmission temps...have some one buy a OBD monitor and drive a older tundra...and type in the specs on this video and compare

My 2020 toyota tundra trd pro sticker says the same. We got jacked. 💨. I dont tow so ill just get in line if they ever send notifications to get it installed if they offer it and actually dropped the ball by omitting it. A jet ski here and there is all I tow. Good content and thanks for sharing the information

Here is my thought. I have a 2021 Tundra and I'm about to start pulling a 32' RV. Not often but a pull is a pull. This week I've ordered all of the items to install a transmission cooler to be safe. However, the thermostat on the new part (after the pin is pulled) is rated at 250 degrees (I'm told). So if the thermostat doesn't open until 250 degree then what is the use of the transmission cooler if it will hardly ever open up to cool? In my case I'm pulling the max combined at nearly 16k lbs between the truck weight and the rv weight. I'm sure my transmission is going to get pretty darn hot and need that cooler. If I wasn't pulling this big rv then well I probably just ordered a fancy part that would likely stay closed most of the time. I've also been told to not pull the thermostat pin and let the fluid flow all the time. Being in South Texas that is probably what I'm going to do unless someone give me good logical reason to use the 250 degree thermostat.

I have a 2020 SR5 with tow package and it shows Eng/Trans Fluid Coolers on the sticker just like the Pro

My Toyota dealership overfilled my engine oil and when I pointed it out, instead of agreeing to drain the excess, they immediately went to the idea that the dipstick was bad!? 🤣🤣🤣 Told them, just drain the fucking oil. Problem solved. Dealerships SUCK.

I have just downloaded the toyota product information sheets for 2019. The tow package is std on all models but crewman. Tow package includes trans temp gauge and oil and trans oil coolers. Marketing arm didn't read their own product sheets.

Come on Toyota 227° unloaded on a 80° day is too warm.

I believe each manufacturer has their temp ratings, but I will say my 2014 Ford F-150 ran around 240°. Our 2004 Chevy Avalanche runs around 200° and our 2015 Chevy Colorado runs around 150°. So it's really hard to say....

Just bought a 2017 tundra thinking I was going to put a trans. cooler and the thermostat in it! i took the grill off, i can see a full size cooler on it! 🙏thank you all I need to do is a trans.service!

This is why I still with my 2018. Love it

147,000 miles on my 2019 tundra, tow a 8,500lbs trailer cross country 3 times a year. Transmission still feels like the day I bought it.

Towing a 23' trailer at 6k lbs my Ram 1500 with the 8 speed has never gone over 192 degrees while towing.

Just trust Toyota ;) It only took them 3 years to figure out they pinned the turn signal bulbs incorrectly. I'm sure that REMOVING the cooling system from the transmission and trying to use the EXISTING warmer as a heat exchanger had all of our best interests at heart, they just forgot to update the window sticker (and left it in the towing section of the window sticker when we weren't getting a cooling upgrade over the base models), and forgot to lower the prices too. Seriously, they need to do another recall and put an actual cooling system back on the truck (at a minimum on the ones with towing packages). People should feel ripped off by Toyota on this one, so much for looking out for the customer. Toyota's core values state "We are a company driven by imagination, experimentation, humility, respect and innovation. And we believe it is people, our people, who will go the extra mile to deliver to our customers all that Toyota promises to be, today and into the future. It's about integrity." So how about you do the right thing and fix this mess!!!!

I have a 2016 tundra with a tow package! I put a pin in the trans valve to keep the cooler open all the time It runs around 200°F normal driving!

While you are at it. Ask Toyota why so many 5.7s sounds like a diesel while idling.

I agree , it’s probably a sensor. What did his dealer say? Or did he jump to conclusion? Please let us know what the fix was. I highly doubt you have a transmission problem .

I thought Toyota would be a nice trade up from Dodge so I bought a Toyota tundra sr5 . I have had it in the shop for routine maintenance 3 times but they have yet to fix any recalls. Thinking I should buy a Titan and see if Nissan is as rude as Dodge and Toyota

That window sticker means free trans coolers if somebody decide to go the legal way.

It actually does have a trans "heater/cooler" lol ...that engine coolant transfer block (right after the spacer that used to be a trans cooler does "cool" after its done heating. Hard to explain but you still did a pretty good job. I added a cooler using OEM parts (thermostat and hard lines) then I went bigger on the flow through style cooler and added an electric fan with a sensor..if it dies it dies at least I tried. I worked hard and really have no use for the dealer even though I am under warranty.

You just proved that Toyota is wrong, it's written on the delivery sticker that it's has a oil cooler. Toyota should install an trans cooler like the sticker shows. Thats like buying a V8 motor and when you lift the hook and it's a 6cly, and Toyota saying its ok, the sticker was wrong..

I have a 2019 Colorado with the V6 and "tow package" but my transmission temperature on the 8-speed automatic runs about 127 - 134 on hot days while NOT towing. I haven't had a chance to tow anything heavy so I can't comment on towing temperatures but 225 + seems pretty high to me.

If Toyota don’t clarify or correct this issue, Toyota will be heading the same directions as the domestic Big 3 truck manufacturers......that is bad reliability , dependability, & quality

But why removed it if have been for years on the truck and it help the trans run cooler?

In my opinion the cooler the trans fluid the better, I owned a 98 Dodge Ram 1500 with two coolers, the one in the radiator and a second external one, while I didn't get to tow anything I did load the bed with almost a ton of stuff when I moved to Texas and no problems. The truck had over 160K on the clock and it would move up a not too steep incline at idle, but that's just my case

Why would my 2020 Tacoma TRD PRO have a trans cooler then? 🤔

I had a 2016 tundra and would tow a 6500 trailer if going up a hill it would down shift but would not up shift once on level ground took along time to up shift took to dealer 2 times nothing wrong .traded truck in

I have a 2020 platinum and it also reads that it has a cooler

Toyota is over rated.

I'm glad I got the 2018 TUNDRA.

I thought I got hate for going with the F-150....lot of people hate the Tundra... I had some pithy comments to make but honestly we need more information and it’s easier to talk about religion and politics than it is to talk about trucks. Course now I’m wondering what the temp should be in my 2020 F-150...lol.

If you want to tow a lot of weight I know of three American companies that has had this figured out for quite a while

I have a 2019 and loathe it. Toyota bunch of scumbags