these review keep complaining that the books are too violent while I'm complaining that its not violent enough

“Some consider it too violent for the age bracket” why did the make me think of warriors almost immediately

People are complaining about a simple relationship but nobody bats an eye about how they arguably brought up sex one time? An egg? Wow they sure work fast in the Kingdom Of The Sea 😏 who’s the lucky father? -Glory, 2013 Also “the tribe has breeding nights once in a while” is basically a family friendly way of saying “orgy”

“They shouldn’t romanticize characters anyways.”errrr-the books take place over thousands of years. If they didn’t the tribes would simply die out.

I really like all these “mature” topics in WOF, teaches kids about the real world

you know a review is going to be a wild ride when it has emojis in a title

I think WoF does a really good job at being tactful about the horrors of war. I reread Moon Rising today and the way they touched on all the different characters being affected by the war in different ways was really interesting

Wings of fire #1 best book series

I think that the willow and sundo was a great idea!! It’s gives soooo much depth to sundo and makes the story more interesting!

5:50 “Too political for kids” they have fucking monarchies what 😭😭

Iv's dads, Sundew and Willow, Burnet and Silverspot, Anemone(to be fair, Ivy's dads are human), Cobra Lily, Jambu and Pineapple,... I think that makes 10 in total

I think I actually found it interesting to learn about lesbians through wings of fire and even though I'm Christian I have a thought process of if it doesn't bother me I don't bother it so gay people don't get on my nerves

I started reading WOF back when only the first book was out, I was around 6 years old. The violence and “politics” never bothered me 🤷‍♂️

I find almost any reviews hilarious tbh,

The first one in a nutshell "How very dare there be 6 WHOLE GAY CHARACTERS out of the HUNDREDS of characters in this book series! My child read this and now they think it's normal!! Outrageous!!!" like literally

Some of these comments are definitely overreacting. I read these books when I was eight and the Hunger Games when I was twelve and I turned out fine. Wings of Fire in the later years may have been a bit of a mess, but it's our bit of a mess

4:05 that was 100 % definitely a real thing that happened.

-.- that first one said "life CHOICES" Being gay is NOT a choice. I'm sure others did, too.

"Dear parents, may your talons never betray you in your darkest hour." (Message from Darkstalker)

Editing pages for your kids? Okay now that’s just messed up. If you think that something’s too violent just don’t let them read it until they’re older smh

5:25 that happened to me, except there were 6 pages missing

I love how half of the Poison Jungle 1 star reviews are ‘THESE DRAGONS ARE LESBIAN GRRR HOW DARE YOU POISON MY INNOCENT CHILDS MIND’ like stop-

Call me naive, but I thought that one of the things fantasy fiction was supposed to do was show ideas that haven't been done to death. The only other time I had seen lesbian dragons anywhere before the third arc was in furry fandom art. Sundew and Willow are both consenting adults with three dimensional, likable personalities. Jambu and Pineapple, even though they had a very brief appearance, were MEGA-adorable and likable. (I hope to see those guys in arc 4.)

If you're leaving a 1 star reveiw on a dragon book series because "oh no, there are gay dragons" you have larger problems than the book series. Also the violence being "too violent" is crazy, wait till your kid gets to our real world and sees how violent that is.

I want more romance and violence in the books but it’s still epic

These concerned parents are so hilarious, dragons should never eat them because they are so distasteful.

I think there actually was a non-binary dragon character as well, but they where just mentioned by Wren. She mentioned the Liberian dragon that they once met in a dragon city being like Axolotl. though, we have sadly never had a non binary dragon character on page, Axolotl is great tho

If you cover the news on the tv show, I'd be curious to ehar your thoughts on how the animates series could fix and improve many of the problems in Wings of Fire.

hey 4arcane you think you could do a video on the news about the animated series getting pick up by amazon recently?

Some of these are hilarious--

6:03 Are you serious... I read the series at 7. I was no where traumatised, okay- I wasn't even 10 or above-

There's like , one nonbinery character and its just a scavenger. Its not a big deal.

this is going to be good.

The first one "not appropriate for my fith grader" i did my 3 grade book report on the first book. WHY

Angry WOF reviews?!? Imposible!!!

one thing i wondered about for a while now is why is there such a huge push for representation? i always said that it's up to the writer if they want to have that in their books... that goes for any representation ( culture, beliefs ext... )

Everyone remembers how Netflix cancelled the show Amazon picked it up

Very well done on this video. You reflect good insight and well thought out responses to these reviews. I sensed a trend in some of these reviews that leaned to certain political leanings that are more forced on children than anything in these books have done. For context, i am an almost 50yr mother to a 23yr daughter that got me into the series. This is a great way for children to learn not to judge other relationships, not only those of same sex but also different race, and to be more accepting. Anyone who has to state their "accepting" but shows otherwise like these reviews need to consult a mirror about who they really are. Again, great job on the video!

Holy crud Parents should not review books they haven't read themselves

to speak directly to the two gay relationships I know of that canonically got off the ground Sundew and Willow are fine I didn't even really care at all I just considered to be sundew openly pursuing something that made her happy as for Jambu and Pineapple this pair through me for a loop however in the short segment shown in flame of hope it is clear both of them care deeply and are happy together, which should be the end of it, these show are for kids so how they pleasure themselves isn't a factor towards the plot and is inapproite to even state as a reason, teaching kids that if someone makes you happy persueing them in a kind respectful manner (looking at you Kinkajo and Turtle) is healthy regardless of gender, honestly I don't have an issue with it hell my favourite non-canon ship is Quiter for crying out loud as they seem to just link together very well and that relationship would NEVER get boring Qibli wouldn't allow it.

i love the books

The wings of fire book series is one of the things that made me get into books. It was a really good starter for me, enough violence and tension and good characters, I read this book when I was the recommended age. I don’t think 8-9 year olds should read this book series, because the violence can be a bit much for those kids. The LBTGQ theming was the least of my concern in the book. Dark stalker legends was a bit more gruesome, and should be rated 13+ for having to imagine the scene of arctics death, or seeing depictions of it online. But yes the book series is amazing, I would definitely recommend it to anyone who wants a book that is interesting, but also a bit violent. Also, I would like to note. I am a Christian, but I already knew about the LBTGQ. I didn’t really care about the relationships or whatever was going on with them. I just cared about what was happening next

Wow, just wow, sometimes i wonder what is in the minds of these people. Also do you have a discord server?

I've read the whole series and its really good. The parents think wings of fire is violent? Try warrior cats. 😂

When i was younger i would have LOVED to read the wof graphic novels. Yet everyone is complaining abt children reading it-

"i will burn this book" best thumbnail ever

As someone who read wings of fire at a very young age, it definitely IS too violent for kids and I’m surprised people are saying it’s fine. Same with warrior cats, not for kids. It’s definitely more of a series for teens

Honestly, the fact that these books have gay characters made me curious! I don't know ANYTHING about Wings of Fire, so that already gives me an interest.

The books are good I like reading them

It was Wings of Fire that made me realize how exactly poison jungle can feel for lesbians. It was that book that made me realize how they might feel. I am grateful to Tui💜

I started reading wings of fire when i was 8 lol

6:00 "i was reading it with my nine year old" i fell like by halfway into book one you would see its not for kids under like 11 except for a select few (me) who had some kinda trauma or are fine with that kinda stuff

oHnO, nOT ThE gAYs

I have a water hose.

Jambu x Pineapple 4 lyfe

Amazon should make it so you can reply to reviews-

I started reading the series a month after i turned 9 and i turned out fine just one problem ITS NOT VIOLENT ENOUGH DURING THE WAR!

WAIT WHO’S THE NONBINARY CHARACTER!?!?

Bruh to all the parents why don't they look to see the blub and check the book before they give it to the kids

man just wait until these parents find out about harry potter

Parents: I can excuse murder/genocide/abuse in the books my children read, but I draw the line at 2 same-sex characters having a loving, consensual, romantic relationship Me: I think I just lost half of my braincells wHat-

I laughed my ass off when I first started the series on audible and saw the reviews from angry parents. The homophobic and bigotry kinda breaks my heart though. Especially when it's a review written by the young reader. I grew up in the closet and was surrounded by homophobia. I use to be super disappointed when a media I liked had gay characters cause I was scared my parents would forbid it and they usually did if they noticed. It was a bad time. I really feel for the kids of the parents who left these hateful reviews.

kinda obsessed with the reviews saying that the books got "too political" with the inclusion of Sundew and Willow when the series was originally about succession drama and war

People should keep their bad reveiws to themselves if its just going to be their own hate. Homophobia, Transphobia etc should be kept to yourself-

Here's my review 3/10 Books are way too short, each one needs to be about twice the original length. Sutherland is really good at describing random acts of violence, but (as of the three arcs, if a 4th arc is confirmed) pretty bad at wrapping up those nice subplots. (Remember Sora and Umbra, book six anyone?). Stuck with the plot? Do one of these: murder a random character barely introduced, imprison the main character and/or their companion(s) or divert the reader's attention to a subplot we'll never mention again and that really doesn't affect the story. Hell, the third arc, aside from Blue and Cricket, was pretty 'meh' overall. (Sundew, your relationship with Willow is adorable, but screw you for A: not trying to save SwordTail, B: yelling at Blue for saving Swordtail, and C: for straightup murdering the Leafwing I won't name for spoilers. No hesitation there eh?)

As a nine-year-old that reads wings of fire, I’ve only read seven books, and I’m actually completely okay with it, I don’t mind LGBT because I respect it :) (Also, I love violence, my mom knows that I’m obsessed with reading blood, so.. that’s okay.)

Maybe read about the books instead of just buying the book instantly and complaining about it lol

3 minutes ago omg

throw the books in a fire? nah throw the parents- (this is a joke)

Although I like WoF, personally, I think some of these reveiws have good points, considering the age group the series is targeted towards. (I would bump it up to 13+)

I didn't even know that there was gay dragons

I just started watching wof and I'm 10 😂😂😂

It is very difficult to know which one’s A female and which One is a male so maybe that’s why they think it’s gay.

Actually read this book once it was the boys who challenge Hitler that’s probably going to be a very controversial book i’m just saying there’s many other book I have the same problem

5th grader…… year 6? that age is perfectly fine to read wof and warrior cats , depending on how mature the child is. ik ppl who read warrior cats in yr 3 & wof in yr4 and they were fine lol

All these reviews where funny. The homophobic ones in a bad way, but it is funny how the parents freak out over a few characters being lgbtqia+, most of them are minor even other then Sundew, that are actually in the books. All the other main characters (minus Sunny, and hopefully she stays that way) ARE in a relationship, or at least implied to be in one, none of the reviewers care unless its Sunlow

In the 2024 every one talking about transgender.But back in my granddad days TV was more about the political stuff. talking about how the war was going

At 1:18, you said that there was 1 non-binary character. Who are they?

Mate if it to violent not read it but why is there gay dragon

My parents are kinda homophobic but they can't speak English, good for me i can read the books in original languagew without my parents noticing gay couples

My god some of this reviews are stupid most of these books are made for audiences of **all** ages so some of the more mature books are for to keep teens(like myself) and adults interested and it annoys me since I'm a very big wof fun Also sry for ranting in this coment

2:34 I do want to learn about a lesbian's dragon relationship, thank you very much homophobic parent. The fact there are 323 people who found that helpful is concerning, for my own sake im going to say they are bots

LOL IM 8😭😭😭😭

Hey I just wanted to say something, and before I do, I am NOT homophobic or transphobic in any way, and I do not condone ANY of this behavior whatsoever. You made several comments in the video warning that some of these reviews are homophobic and transphobic, however, can’t people just have their opinions? Not everyone supports LGBTQ+, and that’s okay as long as they are not discriminatory or hateful towards people in that category. Parents make decisions based on what they think is best (which is not always right, may I point out) for their children, and I don’t think that should be shunned upon. Now, I took into consideration your comment about sheep and how it is dangerous for someone to mindlessly follow others, in which I totally agree, however, once a child is out from under the roof of their parent’s protection, they make decisions for themselves. By then they will have matured enough to have seen a bit of life and know what to do in situations like these. Parents offer incredible guidance, however, they are not always right, so making decisions firsthand once one reaches adulthood is definitely something that is inevitable. This world has just reached over 8 billion people, and none of them have the same exact worldview. Anywho, just wanted to make that (small 😂) comment:) Again, I do NOT condone hate or bigotry acts in any way whatsoever I just want to present the other side of the argument ❤❤

Wait which characters are trans????

No but like - why do people care about the homosexual relationships in the book instead of the ACTUAL storyline?? The book isn't called "WILLOW AND SUNDEW - A LESBIAN DRAGON RELATIONSHIP" People should focus on the other part of the story, ESPECIALLY because the relationship is not explored very much in ANY of the books. Don't get me wrong, I loved the little tidbits of the relationship, it's probably my favorite ship, but that wasn't the ONLY THING I PAYED ATTENTION TO when reading the whole book. Why do people care so much smh

No comment.

LGBTQ+ POWER!!!!!!!!

The closest we've got so far to a transgender character in the series is Hailstorm/Pyrite. And while I'd love to see that, I doubt it'll be made canon as it would look a lot like "Oh, you're trans because of a traumatic experience" which is kind of a big no-no in terms of minority representation. There is also the non-binary scavenger in book 15, that Wren has to explain to Sky.

I just hate wof bc it just sucks

💀 it wouldn’t make sense to have trans dragons like bruh there’s gay penguins (it’s true) so it would make sense to have at least some gay dragons but trans dragons… (I respect trans) that’s just too far 😒

I used to be a huge wof fan I hate the series now though

I know that they are many good people of religion who will to do good thing under their beliefs but if your going overboard about evils immorality inc political activity, massacre or violent and wars a book series the bible is far nastier than any books made today but your don't sheild your kids from

as a kid i had to stop reading wings of fire because of of all the gay contents. I live in a christian family and still live up to those values and i respect everyone. Doesnt mean i respect the content of some of their beliefs though. i would ask you to be a little more respectful towards the families who said those "homophobic" things. I do personally agree that the plot line was much to focused on the relationship of willow and honeydew. If you ask many people theyll actually say the quality of the books has dropped from book thirteen and beyond. such the book series is definitely not at the hight of its fame. If you have any questions please be respectful and i will answer. thanks for reading ❤

Look, I do think the first one was overreacting a bit, but I don’t think you should be hating on a person for their opinion. You said SPECIFICALLY that people should respect each other’s lifestyles, and yet you are dissing this person for their opinion. I personally didn’t like the fact that there were gay characters in this series when I read this as a kid, NOT because I was being sheltered from it by my parents, but because I just didn’t like the sudden burst of gay characters in the third arc. I don’t agree with that lifestyle, but I do respect those who live that way. And also, as a Christian, I still very much enjoy this series even though it’s has a few things that I don’t agree with, so I usually skip or ignore those parts. So PLEASE don’t call me ‘homophobic’.

in my opinion wings of fire is an awful trainwreck of a series, but claiming that it’s not age appropriate because of wars and violence is so dumb😭😭I read warriors when I was like 8 years old and it was arguably more gruesome haven’t watched the video fully yet but I assume there’s also gonna be homophobic reviews too🫢🫢