So, I’m 50 and never married and never had kids. However, I know I have the same divine role and somehow the Lord will make it right. Not too long ago I noticed that Eve was called the Mother of all living BEFORE she actually had children! We are all mothers and we can either choose to love that beautiful design or hate it. I will say that those who choose to hate it or not believe it are often trying to always fill their emptiness.

"The Real Housewives of Ward Radio."

I would love to join in as a black LDS woman of over 30 years..

Thank you Tikla!! I'm a woman who longs to be a mom, without children of my own. I do grieve the loss of that opportunity every single month. Sometimes I've wondered if the nurturing I do for other people's children is somehow "less than", and today you've reminded me that it's not.

The Belief Society!!! Yes!!!

Good to hear Cardon in the background... he was there running the show for the Ladies of Ward Radio! Make sure the Patriarchy is in control! (Humor, don't fire up the reply button)

Selective memories? Everything good they had was in spite of the Church, and everything bad was because of the Church. According to whatever fits their narrative.

My sister went on TikTok and said her brothers all disowned her when she left the church I’m like .. we just had lunch together the other day… it seems she is playing to an audience to sell her energy healing biz because none of us disowned her

Latter-day Slaydies 👏🏻

As someone who is single and childless in my mid-40s, I don't believe in compensatory blessings. Nothing fills the gaps where my husband and children should be. It's all I wanted. Also, yes. That monthly reminder of not having become a mother has made me grieve. The grief was especially present in my 30s. It's not as present now.

I got married in 1989 when I was 20. I had my first baby at age 22. I decided to stop going to college for a while to focus on my family. After waiting until my 3 children were in their teen years, I finished my teaching degree. I felt so privileged to be able to stay home and raise my children, and I am forever grateful for my husband, who was so willing to work hard and sacrifice so I could. Being home also meant I could be there for other kids and families in the neighborhood and school. Having babies young was the best decision for me, because I started having health issues as I got older which might have prevented me from having children (I wanted a 4th but was unable to). I always felt empowered and supported by the church for my choices. I now wish I could retire, though I love my teaching job, because I could take care of my young grandchildren as my daughters struggle with having to work.

I am an at home wife. My mom always says that as homemaker you definitely earn that paycheck your husband brings home. I agree! I make his life possible to pursue his career goals and he makes my life possible being able to raise our children and I can pursue goals of my own. It works when you and your spouse have a vision together that work to complement each other.

I love how trad wife was just common culture until 40 years ago….

You rocked Brittany. For too many people in the church the word "submit" has become taboo. It's not a form of servitude or surrendering your ability to make choices for yourself. We are all invited to submit to the Lord. At the same time he wants us to become His equals; "joint heirs". He doesn't make this happen by making all our decisions for us or doing all the hard stuff for us. Christ had the Brother of Jared solve the issue with light in the barges. The Lord didn't just have the people of the City of Enoch deliver a boat to Lehi when they were sleeping. In the first case He pitched in only after The Brother of Jared made a decision and prepared the stones. I'm the second case He provided the raw materials and the plans. The Lord likewise wants us(men and women) to submit to Christlike leaders. While they aren't perfect they want what is best for us and strive to help us become more capable. Submission to Christ and his imperfect servants is an empowering experience. Last year I decided to more humbly submit to my boss, who is a good man. Over time he came to trust me more and he eventually imparted quite a bit of his expertise to me. It left me far more capable in my job.

“I don’t have too much left to go” 😂 She’s talking about people who are 50. They have a ton of life left. What’s wrong with her.

The online "trad wife" movement is a facade upheld by ultra-wealthy women. With the luxury of not having to work, care for children, or manage household chores, they devote their time to curating "trad wife" content for the internet. The reality is that those juggling housework and childcare aren't also filming themselves crafting homemade cereal from scratch. It's a deception. This unrealistic portrayal harms most women (and men) who encounter such content, fostering unattainable expectations.

Who really cares what anyone thinks about what we believe as individuals. I am 75 years old and I have been a stay at home wife and mother for 55 years and I have never felt threatened at all. I simply am not concerned what anyone may feel about my decision.

I just read the article. She works three jobs and she's happy? Nope. I don't believe it.

I love your perspectives! The trad wife trend can be both fun and cringe 😂 I'm in the thick of it with littles right now, and it's refreshing to hear faithful women stand up for our faith and show how empowering it is for women. I wish I understood it better when I was younger. Also, the pictures at the end, demonstrating how the world values women versus the church was great ❤

You really should have Kevin Dolan on to discuss pro-natalism. He was just the subject of an attack piece in Politico.

Women of Ward Radio is becoming a powerful force for good.

I'm so glad to hear women talking about this. Growing up it seemed like I only heard about the importance of motherhood from my family because so often lessons in church about motherhood were derailed by the unhappy single sister who needed every lesson to be about herself. You talked about the importance of getting married and starting a family young which also doesn't get enough attention. I didn't get married until my late 20s and have dealt with years of infertility. I don't regret my choices but I wish more people had talked about having a family at a young age because the world tells us we can get pregnant at any age and that really isn't true for women. Also, not being a mother doesn't diminish my worth in God's eyes but it does mean I have to go out of my way to fulfill my primary calling and be a good aunt and cousin to all the children in my life. Grateful for ward radio and the voice it gives to ideas that are often drowned out.

I don’t like that the new culture for the last decade is that women go back to work with tiny little kids. It has created a two tier system of women. The women who sacrifice to be at home. Making great great sacrifices and then the women who are working and get vacations, big houses, ect. I feel like all the women who are in the ward, in my family, extended family want me to watch their kids for free all the time because I am home with my kids. I also run a business at home. I try to help out, and I’m happy to serve but this is getting overwhelming and people have financially bit off more than they can chew so both parents have to work because they are not willing to make the sacrifices to stay home. It would be nice if they were at least taught, if you are going to work….childcare expenses need to be included in your budget. Some people are too comfortable using people. It is wrong to ask people to watch your kids for free while you work, (occasionally is fine or in a crisis situation or a small time for difficulties) it’s wrong to think your time is worth $45.00 an hour because you are a nurse but the stay at home mom is not worth a dime and should watch your kids for free because she’s not educated or not using her education. If you wanted to trade babysitting and help her out too, that’s a great more appropriate solution. Understand that this is your responsibility and take it seriously. Ethically it’s wrong to use and abuse people. I’m tired of watching people’s kids so they can live in a huge house, new cars, and buy four wheelers, trailers and vacations and get there hair and nails done then have them make fun of me for not having a bigger house or having all the latest stuff because I live within my means. In the 90s it seemed like all the moms in my neighborhood were at home and helped each other equally. Didn’t have the latest styles, they couponed, shopped caselot, their children were sent to mutual and not the most expensive sports or dance classes. They had more time to serve. People were more united when we didn’t have different classes in the church.

I love Family History. In my 20 years I've found tons of woman who were incredible mothers and wife's. We also had great woman who were Doctors, Lawyer's, Accountant's, Professors, and Government Officials, way before the 1940's. My mother worked most of her life, except when us kids were at home. When I was in high school. She went into a new profession, 20 years later she retired as a manager for East Bay MUD. She had professions and a family and although we didn't have the "best" stuff, we never lacked for guidance and love from our parents.

My life definitely doesn’t follow the Family Proclamation… but I love the ideal… and the inspiration of its guidance. The Lord blesses us with gifts that each of us individually need. Some need to be the breadwinners… some don’t… but the Lord loves and supports us in whatever role we end up carrying. My individual relationship with my Savior is what makes a hard life less painful. We should celebrate each other regardless of the circumstances of our lives … thank you for showing so much grace in this truth… and patience for each other. If those that blame the church for their hardship would just listen … they would find the salve that would help heal their pain. ❤

I thought the exact same thing while I was listening to her speak. I hope her kids never hear this. how awful to have your mom publicly state that she’s upset about having lots of kids. I hope they’re old enough to understand that she’s hurting and saying things she doesn’t mean because otherwise her relationship with her children is going to fall apart with the marriage. I used to work with the elderly and every single person was so excited when children or grandchildren would visit. Sorry but it’s true no one gets to the end of their life and wishes they worked more overtime and got the big promotion but they do often wish they either had more children or repaired a broken relationship.

Every male/female who works wants days off work to be with family….how rad that you choose and are able to stay home and enjoy your family.

This is gold. LOVED Megan’s comment so much!!!

Let's hear it, ladies!

She’s 4 years younger than me. I only saw BYU counselors encouraging women in their academic goals in the 90s. This woman chose her own husband; she can’t blame the church for how they handled their finances.

I have a Phd and work as a top manager for a consulting company. I bought into the idea that I had to be successful, and I worked my behind off to get to where I am. This came from being taught (brainwashed) by the feminist movement as a youth about how important it was for me to have an education and a skill so if my husband was ever unemployed and I had to go to work I would have the skills to take care of my family (code for: your husband won't be reliable, so you need to be.). My husband is amazing, and I absolutely love being married to him. He has supported all my goals and aspirations for 20+ years. I absolutely love my job, but have missed out on many family things because I had obligations outside the home. We have agreed on raising our daughters to know that being a mom and being able to stay home with their kiddos and care for a family is top shelf living! If they choose to work, that's great too, but they don't have to to be valuable! The older I get, the more I wish I had felt that, and I want nothing more than for my girls to be able to stay home with their kids.

My girlfriend FINALLY loves something on ward radio😎 good work

Gordon B. Hinckley told us to get as much education as possible he didn’t exclude women from this commission.

Here's my guess about the envelope of money and the 400 dollar jeans. There were probably conversations about overspending and eventually a plan was made to manage money with envelopes.

I don't think we need to try to fit into a box of a trad wife or what a stay at home mom is like. We are not happy when we are constantly comparing ourselves to others.

When you ask someone with a career what they would want to do if they had all the money and time in the world, people tend to give answers like "manage my home, cook our own meals, spend more time with my children and family." Both men and women say these things and was once reality in pre-industrial times. When men retire they would want nothing more than to live on a ranch with their family. Ironically the etymology of the word Husband comes from "House-Bound" and terms like "animal husbandry" or the biblical phrase of being a "husbandman" is related to it. Deep down I think everyone wants to be traditional but because of changes in civilizational development, the compromise should be to at least to have women live more traditionally for the sake of the family. I'm actually thankful that working from home allows men to spend more time at home with their families. Before factories and office jobs, both farmers and craftsman were men that stayed at home and worked and lived alongside their family. We live longer and more efficient lives now, but at the cost of our happiness. Making it all about gender roles and sexism is just a distraction to keep us from focusing on why it is this way. The solution isn't the living pre-industrially but it should be a compromise through striving to live a traditional family life.

“If it weren’t for our men, we would live in a grass hut” haha. As a fix n flipper, that made me laugh out loud

Who doesn’t have a bank account in that situation, it seems like she’s lying. Also you can be a SAHM & still have control over $ etc like my Mom was. This situation was on her to figure out what was going on

The norm is: mother at home with children = good. Sometimes that's not possible, but it is ideal.

Love it! Best thing ever to listen to while making my trad family their dinner! 😉

If you don't depend on your spouse then why are you married. Relationships where both people bring the same thing to the table don't work because one of them is unnecessary.

Thank you ward radio ladies for this amazing discussion. This is a very timely discussion for me right now. I am currently at a cross roads. I have worked at an amazing job part time for many years and after the company got bought out, then through the process of outsourcing I have found my self without a job. Now do I continue working part time, do I transition to a full time job now that my youngest is in 7th grade or do I take a break from working for a little while. I am so grateful for my partnership with my husband that allows me to explore all of these options.

I distinctly remember Gordon B. Hinckley, AS PRESIDENT OF THE CHURCH, encouraging women to get an education that will allow them to have a career, even if they plan to be a homemaker, in case things don't work out. The idea that "the Church" , even if only in the last four decades, encourages women to drop out of college ... 🤣

I don't understand the mindframe of deciding you want to not work as an adult as your plan, assuming you're going to find someone to do that for you. Maybe because I grew up in a poor family where both parents worked, but I never considered I might be able to not work. Still not something I could consider.

Love these episodes! I think people are upset with the tradwife movement just like any other social media trend. Because at the end of the day, these influences are throwing in everybody’s faces a luxury that we all want but very few people can actually afford. Making the poor doom scrollers (pretty much everybody) anxious and miserable in their personal lives because everybody has been conditioned to live the sin of pride and comparison. I don’t think that it’s necessarily the tradwife part that upsets people, it’s the Mormon part that does. Everything else is just bonus material. I personally have a disdain for social media influencers all together. They say they are “creators” when really all they can do, is seek to consume everything.

Way to go ladies. You sound great in your views , It's good to see. In my day we talked like this doing crafts at Relief Society or on girls camps. I'm 64., It was enjoying. Thank you,

This is so refreshing and encouraging! Thank you for standing up for marriage and family with your powerful words and examples. And there was no hint of malice towards men. These Ladder Day Ladies episodes are excellent!

I love the Sisters of Ward Radio!

I think the big difference is that Latter-day Saint wives generally don't do their alms before mankind.

Great job standing up for Trad Wives ladies. It's so refreshing to hear from a group of women who actually know their place in the world! Great episode. Two thumbs up 👍 👍

Love this, Ladies! Thanks for being bold and preaching the truth.

Just throwing this out there, but it’d be cool as hell to see the WR Ladies discussing this on the Whatever Podcast

"Submit to your husband AS HE SUBMITS TO GOD" is the answer to a question I've been praying about since 2018. God bless every single one of you. You're doing the Lord's work here, even if it's just for me 😜🫶🏽🥹❤️‍🔥

Love you guys !!! Man I'm glad I live in Iowa.

LDS women your number 1 goal is nurturing your children homeschooling them and getting them to BYU and or a trade for their future family. Relieve me! ❤

You guys always have such great insights and articulate things so well!

I think it’s useful to ask the question, Why did the Lord assign the primary responsibility for providing to men and why nurturing to women? Was it just a random, arbitrary assignment or was it because each of those roles is designed to best create the celestial changes that are needed in each gender and in the children to bring to pass the eternal life of God’s children. Yes, I think that each gender has gifts as a generality that give them a natural predisposition for the tasks assigned to them. But more than that I think that it is likely that those assigned responsibilities are calculated to best bring to pass the eternal growth needed in each gender.

Thanks ladies! I’m uplifted!❤️

I think the comments made in the Daily Mail article make some valid points. Especially a "man is not a plan". Women need to make education and gaining skills as an important priority. I was a working mum and feel our LDS marriage was richer because of the education and work place skills and experience I brought to our family. Additionally, just because the experience of the women in the article is different from yours that doesn't make her experience invalid.

This was a great discussion thank you ladies. President Hinckley counseled us (women in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) in a BYU devotional I believe in the early 2000’s to get as much education as possible. As a result I went to graduate school got my masters degree and am Family Nurse Practitioner. I could probably make more money than my husband but I choose to only work one day a week because I would rather be home with my five young boys. My husband prefers going to work selling Harley Davidson’s for his families business. I grew up in a single parent home and it was hard for my mom to support four kids on her own after my Dad’s death. I always wished I had my Dad to preside provide and protect like other kids at church. It really is a luxury if you are one of those families that have a mom at home and a dad who provides for the family and they have a loving marriage. The Church provides the best way to this to be possible. There are lots of different families with all kinds of situations in the church. In the church we have prayer, scriptures and following the Holy Ghost to help us navigate life. How sad it is in the world where only money, social status etc are important when at the end of the day those things are empty. “lay not up for yourselves treasures on earth where moth and rust doth corrupt and thieves break through and steal but lay up for yourselves treasure in Heaven…for where your treasure is there will your heart be also. “

Great conversation!

This is amazing. And young women and moms are lucky to hear your voices. From an old mom that does. 😉

Way to go ladies! We love to hear from you!

I LOVE the women of ward radio. Thank you for this!

I was a stay at home mom for 12 years and my ex was cheating on me for 11 years getting divorced really does suck for stay at home moms without education and work experience. Getting Divorced was the scariest thing that ever happened to me but God totally carried me through. I am still miraculously a stay at home mom and my husband is a Godly man who honors his priesthood so faithfully. I should have followed the counsel of my dad and priesthood leaders and finished my education but I’m now in a place where I don’t even believe most people need a college education from a university I studied art and if I could do it again I should have gotten an apprenticeship or something but even if I would have finished my degree I don’t think it actually would have helped me financially because I don’t have an entrepreneurial personality

Another great discussion! Y'all are great!

at the forst part of this discussion it was brought out that to see real "trad wife" to talk to the older generation and i think that is a great way to gain perspective. but it should also be said that those women would specialize and serve each other. one would know weaving and another would know lace-making of one form or another, one would understand finer cheeses or so many subjects that women today don't have to learn. we forget that reliance upon other women that was necessary to survive and an intricate part of life for women for the existence of man.... and now if you can't do it yourself then you hire or buy it and that comradery and perspective is missing.

My wife spent the first 14 years of our marriage focusing on her career and she was miserable the whole time. Her biggest regret today at 37 is not having more kids and not starting younger. We were hoping for a family of 4-6 and right now we have only been able to have 1. We may not even get to 2. If you want a family, make it your priority. Love every minute you get with those precious gifts Heavenly Father sends you because you never get that time back. It's hard but it's worth it.

Love these ladies!

Yall are rockstars.

Just out of curiosity, can we get the Women of Ward Radio to weigh in on the "man vs bear in a forest" question?

WELL. SAID. THANK YOU.

29:02 the temple USED to say it this way. It doesn’t anymore, newer temple covenant makers may not see it this way because they haven’t made the covenant like we used to. My personal feeling is this may cause confusion and disagreement when the older generations explain the covenant vs the newer. ( sorry gals for calling you the older generation but that’s who you are now with the ongoing temple changes).

Love every episode of Women of Ward Radio. You’re smart, faithful, family-oriented, Christ-centered, naturally beautiful, and I could go on with the positive adjectives. This is the real “product” of the gospel.

TradWives > BossBs

That quote from 1989 is amazing!

We humans are meant to be in a community. The ideal model is centered around the nuclear family, but then expands to neighborhood, church, township... The stability and security that everyone is desperately seeking comes from that. Face it, life is hard. People suffer illness and injury, Homes can burn down, floods or earthquakes, can destroy entire cities. When your own family can't fix the problem you are facing, then you reach out to the larger community. Layered security. Do you suppose the haters are people who have experienced a breakdown in this, and are trying to find, or create a new community? The exaggerations appeal to human fear, which is a poor foundation for a community. But it does give that quick, temporary validation they are seeking (empty, ultimately...).

Being a trad wife is based, and the women who criticize it are jealous and unhappy.

Cardon looks different somehow... I can't quite put my finger on it. It's an improvement either way, though.

We need to talk more about toxic femininity please

Would you say, you say you feel complete,fulfilled, or happy as a tradwife, because you have good husbands who empower you as a tradwife??

John dehlin has a new antimormon podcast called understanding Mormonism

The mmen in church treated me better then my husband did, that's why I got divorced!

alyssa grenfell

Brad is in the latest book of mormon video

The glow of these women is so delightful. The men in their life seem great. Give those men some lovin tonight.

Attention ! All men and women ! You fallow the Prophet of - 👑Jesus Christ ,because you need to focus on your daily chores and not world of darkness (most of you can’t handle the truth ) ! Trust in the 👑Lord🤞🏻🙏🏻

I totally dig the word "Trad Wife." My wife is a highly educated, beautiful, exotic trad wife and she is amazing.

WIFE QUESTION: I see Joseph Smith prophesied in D$C 132 on the essential nature of plural marriage in order to be exalted, but where is the prophesy written from god that stopped plural marriage? If god started plural marriage, isn't he the only one that can stop it by an equal prophesy? So where is "thus saith the lord" written like in DC132, to stop plural marriage?

Where is any pushback or a woman who is not on board with the Mormon view and who can add some perspective? Just an echo chamber

At the ~22:00 time mark, Brittany asks about data or supporting evidence for some of the claims...yep, plenty of data exists. Let's start with some of the data: 70-80% of divorces are filed by women. 80-90% of alimony or child support payments are unidirectional from men to women. ~80% of domestic violence is mutual with both men and women as perpetrators/victims. The divorce rate for same-sex (lesbian) marriages is ~75% which is substantially elevated when compared to other same-sex (gay men) marriages.

You talk a lot ! What you and everybody is missing is “deeper research “! The problem is you all are too prideful to admit it and the fact you don’t know (esp how the adversary works) and this is why most people (not LDS ) allow mistakes in their relationships .