Real Life Martha LIED! Fiona Harvey Victim Drops RECIEPTS! Netflix Also CAUGHT Lying!?

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Real Life Martha LIED! Fiona Harvey Victim Drops RECIEPTS! Netflix Also CAUGHT Lying!?
Baby Reindeer Stalker TERRORIZED ME! She's Lying & So His Netflix! Martha Victim Drops RECIEPTS! on ‪@PiersMorganUncensored‬
Laura Wray interview with Piers Morgan confirms Fiona Harvey stalked her like Martha, and that Netflix did lie about her own conviction which is both good news and bad news for Fiona, and bad news for Netflix.
BABY REIN FEARS I was terrorised by REAL Baby Reindeer ‘stalker’ Fiona Harvey & thanks to Netflix I fear she’ll do it again
AN MP’s wife targeted by Baby Reindeer ‘stalker’ Fiona Harvey told last night how she was terrified of falling victim to her again after the Netflix show dredged up her ordeal.
Barrister Laura Wray, 62 - widow of ex-Labour MP Jimmy Wray - said she was living in fear after hearing Harvey was house-hunting close to where she lives.
AN MP’s wife targeted by Baby Reindeer ‘stalker’ Fiona Harvey told last night how she was terrified of falling victim to her again after the Netflix show dredged up her ordeal.
Barrister Laura Wray, 62 - widow of ex-Labour MP Jimmy Wray - said she was living in fear after hearing Harvey was house-hunting close to where she lives.
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@kathybrascher1910 Ай бұрын

Piers is really hung up on the conviction part. Netflix may be in trouble, but the fact that Fiona is really a dangerous stalker has been proven.

@Babette-cr2zu Ай бұрын

Because if that is false she may have a case.

@NinStardust Ай бұрын

@@Babette-cr2zu A case that she was represented as someone who stalked and harassed multiple people for decades and who was justly convicted in a court of law for those crimes, when in reality the British justice system and police force failed to protect the innocent victims of her actions by neglecting to prosecute her… 🤔 Think we’re in trouble as a society if she manages to win that one.

@Babette-cr2zu Ай бұрын

@@NinStardust hopefully this whole thing will draw a spotlight on the victims of stalking who have been unprotected and then maybe the laws will change for the better.

@thevoidisshining Ай бұрын

Because that's what isn't true and she can sue over

@alzar11 Ай бұрын

Also, before this all blew up, I saw interviews with Richard clearly stating that she wasn't convicted and some parts were dramatised. He's been open about that from the start.

@peaz84 Ай бұрын

The conviction being true or not is completely irrelevant in my view

@ibelieveinyourgalaxy Ай бұрын

Of course it’s irrelevant and anyone espousing about it is doing so in bad faith.

@tasnimtrisha2 Ай бұрын

Mine too.

@lejci38 Ай бұрын

Yes.. Couldn't care less..in fact the admission of the horrible behaviour would be the only redeeming thing about her, and she should be convicted, that is for sure.

@lisascott1347 Ай бұрын

I agree .. Netflix should have said based on a true story ..

@BlackNerdist Ай бұрын

Exactly. As another lawyer said(and Laura hinted at here), Fiona being convicted does not change people's opinion on her.

@Somerandomfilmmakerguy Ай бұрын

So the idea is she’s gonna sue for not being caught for stalking? That’s the issue? ‘Yes I’m a dangerous stalker, but I’ve never done time for it.’ Good luck with that.

@lronbutters5688 Ай бұрын

Totally agree -sent from my iphoen

@scorpiorising7694 Ай бұрын

No that's not what her suit is about. Was that an attempt at humour?

@IStandWithCatherine Ай бұрын

Yes, at least in the Netflix series, she took accountability. It's more appealing for the majority of us.

@ezzb Ай бұрын

@@IStandWithCatherineThe show actually makes her more sympathetic and likeable?? Watching her interview you can see how charitable he was.

@annabahatska1433 Ай бұрын

I can't agree more. If fiona gets finacial compensation, it would be a heratbreaking signal to all the psychos out there, basically: go ahead and destroy people's lives, make them miserable for years - and get compensated if they ever call you out on that (because the laws apparently can't).

@intotheblue970 Ай бұрын

The wife of a former member of parliament. Really???? That's the best you could do! She is a barrister FFS not just a wife.

@deepestvermillion Ай бұрын

And an extremely intelligent, capable, strong and compassionate person. It is disgusting that her trauma has been moneterised by others. Richard Gadd has no imagination.

@margogo1057 Ай бұрын

Really shouldn't matter whose wife she was/is or that she herself is a barrister. Fiona sounds dreadful and worse for the common folk that don't have money or power to fall back on once their life is upended by this woman. Fiona falsely claiming they abused their child is horrible and shows how dangerous she is though, for sure.

@anneforster1863 Ай бұрын

I would say Fiona is more wrong than Netflix.

@twiceshy9773 Ай бұрын

And the "Darrien" guy...the British Diddy

@Bless-Your-Heart- Ай бұрын

It is disturbing that Fiona now has a support group that is going after Laura Wray. I understand protecting the rights of the mentally ill, but why re-violate her (alleged) previous victim?

@dizzielizzie5230 Ай бұрын

@@theresemcnamara- Its an interim interdict. Interim meaning temporary. Only legally binding for 366 days. Fortunately, for Laura, Fiona, obviously, was not aware of this & ceased her stalking for years thereafter.

@Smartychase Ай бұрын

Sickos?

@deepestvermillion Ай бұрын

Absolutely appalling, Gadd’s trans girlfriend!!! What freaks

@BlackNerdist Ай бұрын

To be fair, they thought Laura was the real life Teri

@rwaneuin6259 Ай бұрын

@@dizzielizzie5230 Of course FH was aware of it, which was why she stopped stalking the lady.

@wb6266 Ай бұрын

We literally watched a man get torn to shreds mentally, emotionally, spiritually, and physically....BUT SOMEHOW, Pierce and Fiona think the most damaging part of the show was Martha not getting convicted in real life. lollllllll wtf. To be honest, by the end of the show, I didn't really care about Martha.

@Dr_Agon3 Ай бұрын

It’s because pierce is an actual narcissist and doesn’t understand the victims side at all

@NerdInMotion23 Ай бұрын

One thing that has stuck in my mind and I hope that Fiona takes notice of this. Laura said if Fiona wins money from Netflix she'll be suing suing her. Im pretty sure Laura will win and as she is a lawyer she can just make Fiona poor again. If anyone deserves money it's Laura.

@ztxngen5356 Ай бұрын

That would pass in court? Is it cause Fiona tormented her?

@PaulDonnam-xs4kg Ай бұрын

Fiona is dangerous she should be tagged at least😮.

@astrothecat01 Ай бұрын

Hands up if you think Fiona will once again go public denouncing Laura's claims as 'lies' 🙄

@PeoplesPadre Ай бұрын

Harpooned?

@cavalierheaven Ай бұрын

Scotland has different laws to the rest of the UK. Laura said during the interview that she reported Fiona to the Scottish Police who took no action, which is why she went down the civil route. Stalking laws certainly need to be reviewed and updated, as it seems action isn’t taken often until it is too late and serious harm is caused to the victim.

@logic7753 Ай бұрын

Tagged?

@MsPixi66 Ай бұрын

@@cavalierheaven 💯

@sarai1519rios Ай бұрын

Well really? So Fiona was lying as we all thought. Wow

@emzyr3442 Ай бұрын

Piers better be careful, Fiona may start stalking him😫

@deepestvermillion Ай бұрын

He would monetise it

@MargaretRose15 Ай бұрын

@@deepestvermillionthen she would sue him

@jowo8034 Ай бұрын

Netflix does not say this is a true story. The character, Donnie Dunn, types “this is a true story” at the beginning of the first episode. It sets up the recounting of his story. We later find out that this is the report that he is submitting to the police detective. Piers Morgan is, for some reason, obsessed with that opening scene. Maybe he just doesn’t grasp that it is a technique of storytelling just like each season of Fargo opens with the on screen text that it is a true story.

@anitathomas6777 Ай бұрын

Piers just wants to stir the pot.. actually someone should sue Piers for supporting and encouraging a crazy stalker like Fiona

@sallywillis1448 Ай бұрын

It's sneaky, manipulative and misleading to have done this at all in this way, and at the beginning of the show.

@judithmorganjudyteen Ай бұрын

Andy doesn't see it

@ezzb Ай бұрын

Pierce is dishonest. That's why. He's milking this for views. "Netflix lies" "Netflix gets sued" are great headlines

@peterl9119 Ай бұрын

After watching this interview, I think the only person who should be suing should be Laura Wray and not Fiona Harvey. The real-life Martha turned out to be way more scary and dangerous than I thought. She should not be rewarded for bad behavior.

@anitathomas6777 Ай бұрын

But Piers is making sure that Fiona gets rewarded for her behavior…

@cilajoao1 Ай бұрын

This just shows Fiona should have served time and the justice system failed miserably.

@emilyparkison9523 Ай бұрын

Can Netflix be cleared because of the disclaimer at the end of the episodes? Fiona has shown that she's friggin scary!

@Somerandomfilmmakerguy Ай бұрын

Short answer, yes. It’s a given that though it says ‘true story’. It’s not a documentary and any reasonable person should know it’s not all ‘real’. If not, the fact their names are changed is a ‘lie’.

@missymani Ай бұрын

It should. It's funny that everyone covering this subject are IGNORING this disclaimer. It's a true story that was changed and fictionalized. Just like any other "based on a true story" movie.

@Tiamat951 Ай бұрын

They also keep trying to spin it that Gadd and Netflix only started saying it was fictionalised after Fiona began her lawsuit, which itself is a lie, the disclaimer was there from the beginning. Could Netflix have done a better job making sure it was in a place where everyone would see it? Yes... But, that doesn't change the fact that it is there.

@fabdragon2071 Ай бұрын

I mean Netflix has lawyers on retainer and can financially outlast an individual person in court. Netflix won't loose but they may settle if they see it as financially viable.

@mrhumble2937 Ай бұрын

@missymani yea I guess for YT views. There would never be another based on true story drama again if you can't fabricate.

@NerdInMotion23 Ай бұрын

I think Gadd has done something epic this has raised the seriousness of stalking and it's also going to pretty much going to destroy Fiona.

@IStandWithCatherine Ай бұрын

For a stalker, this situation is like a child in a candy shop. Coming forward, giving interviews, suing Netflix, scaring again her victims, making again their life miserable. Maybe Fiona is loving it, who knows...

@NinStardust Ай бұрын

@@IStandWithCatherine But the flip side of that is that Fiona will *NEVER* be able to pull the same stunts on anyone else ever again. She’s been publicly exposed. EVERYONE knows now who she is and what she is capable of. Nobody will ever give her the time of day ever again. And if someone is fool enough to fall for it then when they come to their senses they’ll be able to get her convicted at the drop of a hat. More good than evil will come of this in the long term. Gadd knows it & that’s why he did this. (IMHO/conspiracy theory/whatever)

@pasjasmine Ай бұрын

If you watched the show ….. maybe he wanted her reaction all along did he think she’d sit quietly after releasing an entire show about her one in which was written in such a way people could determine who she is …. He still hasn’t figured her out and all the recordings have been listened too he’s just as crazy as she is this story is captivating

@NerdInMotion23 Ай бұрын

@@pasjasmine I have watched the entire series. He clearly wasn't doing well at that time but I think the difference is she is the abuser where he was the abused.

@NerdInMotion23 Ай бұрын

@@IStandWithCatherine She probably is but it won't last that's the issue. People will see her for what she is and she'll be done.

@Johnnyiswhere Ай бұрын

Fiona would be CRAZY to go forward with a lawsuit. Is she really prepared for all of this to come out in a trial? If anything she’d be counter sued by all of her victims.

@judithmorganjudyteen Ай бұрын

Laura said she will

@christine8394 Ай бұрын

Fiona IS crazy

@jasonhallowsworth6889 Ай бұрын

This lady about to be paid. They shouldn't have said that this is a true story when some of it is defamatory lies.

@user-wz2zw8wq2p Ай бұрын

@@jasonhallowsworth6889 the show had a disclaimer at the end of each episode! Dear God. If this crazy woman gets anything then the creative art world is doomed. Whatever happened to using one’s imagination ?? Harvey is extremely dangerous & not a lawyer. She studied law as a student decades ago. Shame on those grifting lawyers looking to cash in, they could become her next victims.

@lamorphise Ай бұрын

Nah she’s got a point they said it’s a true story not based on a true story

@DNice_Santi Ай бұрын

Oh boy. This keeps getting scarier and scarier

@Smartychase Ай бұрын

I would say juicier and juicer

@PaulaRoberts-kv8xw Ай бұрын

So Fiona will get a big pay out and these poor victims will get nothing for the damage she caused them.

@MeanEileen916 Ай бұрын

I think LW made it clear that when/if she gets anything, she herself will get sued since now she will be worth suing.

@judithmorganjudyteen Ай бұрын

@@MeanEileen916hope she does

@Meme-jn3gy Ай бұрын

It's a drama, not a documentary. It's the writer's POV.

@billthecat666 Ай бұрын

And creative license is used all the time.

@kwazingidi9002 Ай бұрын

@@billthecat666people are acting like this is something new. Did James Cameron lie in his rendition of the Titanic? I mean people need to think.

@judyjudy158 Ай бұрын

@@billthecat666 Agree. Also, they made the other stalking victim a man when Laura is a woman. I don't hear her complaining about that. 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

@lamorphise Ай бұрын

They said it was a true story. On based on a true story and that is the problem here because they used creative license

@anonymouse6703 Ай бұрын

@@lamorphise Although I think the This is a true story text at the beginning is what could get Netflix in trouble, their legal team will argue that the opening credits are in red. The black screen with white letters are the characters typing, so when it says This is a true story, that is Donnie Dunn the character saying it. The end credits say "Based on a screenplay by Richard Gadd" and then goes on with the disclaimer that it's based on true events but many things have been fictionalized for dramatic purposes.

@lanapapas Ай бұрын

Not having a conviction only shows the lack of laws to protect those impacted by dangerous stalkers

@pmaday236 16 күн бұрын

Absolutely True!!

@MeanEileen916 Ай бұрын

I’m glad this is getting the attention it deserves. Exposing STALKERS is a good deterrent because STALKING IS A CRIME!

@sallywillis1448 Ай бұрын

And it often leads to Murder.

@astrothecat01 Ай бұрын

Just finished watching Piers' interview. Sending love to Laura ❤ It's just awful that this has dredged up her past trauma at the hands of an extremely sick individual 😔

@anitathomas6777 Ай бұрын

The only person to blame here is Piers Morgan… he is the one supporting and encouraging Fiona

@julest5767 Ай бұрын

Piers is so weird in his fixation on suing Netflix. Who cares about a small detail and like Laura said, Fiona's reputation is trash anyway

@larinho80 Ай бұрын

also, when did Netflix claim it was a documentary?

@risajoe Ай бұрын

I wonder if he was turned down by Netflix. It's like he is against them for some reason

@charlottedey3725 Ай бұрын

Probably because Megan is on there lol

@brendao185 Ай бұрын

I love in that interview is that she said is Fiona get compensated by Netflix she will sue her for defaming her. Love that 👏👏👏👏

@lejci38 Ай бұрын

This lady not just didn't harm Fiona in any way, she was kind and she tried to give her a chance, many, chances, she helped her.. And she was repayed with 5 years of relentless stalking , damage,... I mean seriously.

@lulunz6809 Ай бұрын

And then crimes were committed against more people. Especially Richard.

@TheCostaChic Ай бұрын

There’s definitely a pattern: be nice to Fiona and she will turn on you and stalk you for years after 🙈

@lejci38 Ай бұрын

@@TheCostaChic yes, the best thing to do is to pass by...

@randofromiowa Ай бұрын

If she hasnt actually been convicted, my question is how?!

@Babette-cr2zu Ай бұрын

The laws for stalking suck

@zonazona888 Ай бұрын

It’s terrifying that the victims are not protected by the law or supported by the police

@gaildrake5940 Ай бұрын

They don’t take stalking seriously

@sandrasutherland1013 Ай бұрын

Sounds like Scottish laws need a major upgrade

@mistrock322 Ай бұрын

What's causing damages to Fiona is Fiona.

@mouselander Ай бұрын

At the begining of the first episode, the character Donnie types “This is a true story” it does not flash, the character can do anything! - it appears nowhere else in the series and every episode ends with a disclaimer. - the aftermath is total spin and abuse of a poor ill woman by Piers Morgan, Fiona has no case and Morgan is egging her on.

@anitathomas6777 Ай бұрын

Piers just wants to stir the pot..

@judithmorganjudyteen Ай бұрын

Yes, this is what the case will rest on I think

@anonymouse6703 Ай бұрын

How funny I said almost the exact same in a reply. Yes all the black screen with white letters are the characters typing and Netflix did their legal thing with the disclaimers at the end. But even if she does have a case, it's so ironic that the stalker is complaining about feeling harassed.

@mouselander Ай бұрын

@@anonymouse6703 It is actually characteristic as are alot of other things in her behavior that people have says identifies her as Martha - she is actually quite generic - her outing herself then crying victim is typical and is juet another way she can abuse her victims, who ever they might be.

@PeoplesPadre Ай бұрын

Lawyers will go after Netflix because they themselves will get their 30% but in reality it appears this woman is a dangerous menace. Morally, it would be wrong for her to get a penny, but will she prevail based upon the fact that in the series she appeared incarcerated? One could argue that the incarceration and caught appearances were added, not just for dramatization, but also to suggest that it was not Fiona. Netflix, after all did have the disclaimer at the end and never personally identified her. She seems to be an absolutely dreadful woman, but even awful people have legal recourse. Thanks for the great reporting.

@michelleponzio Ай бұрын

They could spin it that way. They would have to state because there's a conviction in the show, there's no way they were referring to Fiona. That may prevent defamation. At least, that's how I would spin it.

@privatename4786 Ай бұрын

Netflix were not responsible for defaming her character, Fiona did that all by her actions.

@scorpiorising7694 Ай бұрын

@@michelleponzio If they were to bizarrely claim it wasn't about Fiona how would you spin the fact they promoted the show by stating 'real tweets were used that were sent by the stalker' that allowed her to be identified? Or how would you spin the fact that netflix claimed in parliament under oath that this was 'a true story' and that it involved a 'convicted stalker'? Would anything be fair game to you that she was depicted of doing and write it off through a disclaimer in the end credits? Would it be ok if they branded her a paedophile for example?

@HappyNana05 Ай бұрын

Thanks to Netflix everyone now knows how dangerous Fiona is, the beginning of the series is a character typing this is a true story NOT Richard or Netflix saying it, it is coming from a character, Netflix has been good at bringing the stalking situation out for people to realise just how dangerous they can get

@NerdInMotion23 Ай бұрын

You were right and I'm glad you stuck to your guns Andy. She is clearly horrible and pretty evil.

@blackmamba4422 Ай бұрын

I thought the convictions in the story line was more beneficial to Fiona. It was the part that made her seem accountable and remorseful. If that never happened, my empathy for her is totally removed . I'm so glad this credible lady came on the show

@jessl6239 Ай бұрын

Great point!

@Redfoxybrown Ай бұрын

Didn’t Netflix and Richard say that parts were dramatized for entertainment purposes and that Richard was not sober during this time shouldn’t be taken to a T

@shazdave8886 Ай бұрын

Based on a true story. Every normal person knows it is always loosely based as they need to dramatize it to make it more interesting.

@ayersndrea Ай бұрын

agreed... I think this lawsuit is ultimately going to come down to the implied duty around the verbiage "BASED on a true story" vs. "this is a true story"... if it even makes it that far. (I think they're probably going to do their best to capitalize on her instability by pushing her really hard in depositions)

@lauraxx3399 Ай бұрын

So I think what’s more damaging her image is that she didn’t do her time & got away with all these crimes and harassment… 😰 If she was smart she could say nothing & say now she’s a better person 😅

@idylledoll Ай бұрын

That’s if she was of sound mind but she’s clearly not well.

@leonzheng4530 Ай бұрын

The show and the scene where Martha pleads guilty actually made Fiona look better than the real version of her. At least on the show she was portrayed to be remorseful.

@TheMaltebella Ай бұрын

Fiona is serving Misery vibes. Also... it wasn't a documentary it was a movie... not everything is going to be true.

@ElsaLoui Ай бұрын

This women is clearly a dangerous stalker. For anyone to act like she isn't makes them look foolish

@marisolsalazar8132 Ай бұрын

Fiona gave me the creeps straight away. I adore Scotland and the Scottish accent but there is something in her voice that makes me very nervous

@athomasbond Ай бұрын

"How old are you?" "58 one year younger than you Piers" Piers morgan made a mistake giving her a free glass of water.

@kathleen4083 Ай бұрын

Listened 😮 she can be witness for Netflix. Her harassment was horrendous 🤬

@kathleenfoley2399 Ай бұрын

I don’t understand the dragging of Netflix - it was based on a true story, it wasn’t billed as a documentary.

@NinStardust Ай бұрын

The whole issue is that Netflix said “This is a true story”. They didn’t say “based on” or that it had been dramatised until the closing credits of later episodes. Those two little words would have saved them one heck of a lot of trouble

@beautifulsoulgirl8683 Ай бұрын

@@NinStardust at the end it says it was fictionalized. watch the show and see at the end of the episodes.

@anitathomas6777 Ай бұрын

The issue is Piers Morgan… he is the one supporting and encouraging Fiona… he doesn’t care about her victims..

@beverleyrankin3482 Ай бұрын

⁠@@NinStardustYes, but I watched a drama series called Fargo (brilliant, by the way) and at the beginning of every episode it said this is a true story, which of course it wasn’t. I don’t know why writers are allowed to say that. Misleading and pointless.

@sallywillis1448 Ай бұрын

@@beverleyrankin3482 Money and views

@Rihansu743 Ай бұрын

Netflix and the show have not damaged Fiona's "image" Fiona has damaged her own image lol this is all ridiculous sent from my Iphoen

@chelloandra Ай бұрын

Something very very deranged about Harvey

@Violett_Ginn Ай бұрын

Fiona wants money. Her words... " I wrote this story in my sleep" Also, if reindeer is getting symoathy/attention it's taking away narcissist supply from Fiona. Narcs hate not being the center of everyone's lives

@MargaretRose15 Ай бұрын

Very scary

@andrealee8561 Ай бұрын

Imagine what her lawyers are dealing with because If they don't win or if she's not happy Will she continue to bother or harass her lawyers

@larinho80 Ай бұрын

Why would Netflix be in trouble? it's not like they said it was a documentary

@NinStardust Ай бұрын

If this whole fiasco ends up in Fiona being prosecuted and serving time for stalking, will it ultimately clear Netflix, as it would become a true story after all? Just curious as I can see it going that way! 😅

@zonazona888 Ай бұрын

The most worrying aspect is the police do fck all. It’s terrifying for the victims 😢

@dw1f769 Ай бұрын

I feel very sorry for her. I hope she sues Fiona and Netflix if that's possible.

@anitathomas6777 Ай бұрын

Why Netflix?…. She should sue Piers Morgan for supporting and encouraging Fiona…

@logic7753 Ай бұрын

Based on a true story is used a lot and doesn't mean they can't take liberties. Think Amityville or the Bell witch.

@kwazingidi9002 Ай бұрын

Or Titanic..I mean really

@erinhogan1760 Ай бұрын

These victims shouldn't be silenced because it might ruin her reputation. She is a horrible person. They could have made a decent documentary from this.

@joecowles5177 Ай бұрын

All that will happen is what happens all the time, it will be settled out of court. She'll sign an NDA and we'll never hear about it again.

@angelanova9732 Ай бұрын

Richard’s VERSION of Fiona AKA: Martha was convicted before stalking DONNY.

@mellie5858 Ай бұрын

Could it be that Fiona is such a high level disturbed person that she instilled too much fear into her victims that she was never prosecuted plus Scotland still does not recognise stalking as a chargeable crime..

@midnightnavigator Ай бұрын

Why is everyone treating this show like it were a documentary?

@Lisa-is1qs Ай бұрын

If anything we should be mad about her not doing time. She deserves nothing but to do time. Netflix is not accountable for anything, they said based on true story

@nolaparker9574 Ай бұрын

It was a brilliant interview with Piers.

@missymani Ай бұрын

It literally says it's changed and fictionalized. Why is nobody mentionig this disclaimer? I never said that its a documentary 🤡🤡🤡 also the public is not stupid we know its dramatized. A True story that is adapted.

@scorpiorising7694 Ай бұрын

That's completely irrelevant in terms of a defamation claim 😂

@crowevil4658 Ай бұрын

It’s not.

@scorpiorising7694 Ай бұрын

@crowevil4658 oh do humour me, in what way does a disclaimer at the end of a TV show preclude a defamation claim when the allegations about the claimant have been made under oath in uk parliament?

@NinStardust Ай бұрын

People also seem to be neglecting the word “story”. Stories are fictitious. It’s not like it says “This is true life” or “true to life” or “These are real events”. The guy who talked to Parliament may have spoken out of turn. Though that could easily be rectified with an apology as you do not have to speak in absolute facts under oath but *tell the truth as you understand it* . If he believed he was speaking factually, but had been misinformed or was mistaken then there’s really not much that prosecutors could do about it as long as he issues a retraction. That is, if it can’t proven to be true which has yet to be determined…

@MeanEileen916 Ай бұрын

Piers knows to deflect the attention to Netflix so that he isn’t responsible in FH’s eyes.

@Reinvention2-qo2tw Ай бұрын

Her criminal record could have been sealed.

@saratripp3625 Ай бұрын

If anything, admitting guilt and serving time would have actually redeemed her in many people's eyes, in my opinion. (EDIT - I typed this before I heard you say basically the same thing.)

@katjaxxx7353 Ай бұрын

is it only me who still has her ''mmmmmmmmmh'' in mind?

@cavalierheaven Ай бұрын

No, me too….

@jowo8034 Ай бұрын

mmmmmmmmm, yeah, I saay wut ye mane.

@ublu3631 Ай бұрын

But doesn’t „based on a true story“ already imply that it is just BASED ON true events and not depicting them 100% as they happened, as a documentary would? I don’t get why Netflix would be in trouble about this 🤔 If they claimed it was an reenactment of true events, yes, then creative liberties would be problematic, but it’s not an reenactment

@Babette-cr2zu Ай бұрын

My understanding is that, and I finally watched the series, that the beginning states " this is a true story". And that's where she has possible actionable case. It didn't state based on which gives a lot of leeway.

@LorienWitch Ай бұрын

Dramatizations don't have to be 100% factual, there is artistic licence. Names changes, scenes added, all for dramatic effect. No real names were mentioned, and he didn't claim Fiona was convicted - Martha was.

@rinawaller1830 Ай бұрын

If the stalker wins the case the greedy lawyers are accountable for future stalkers to roam free

@AngelEyes-xm7el Ай бұрын

I just split ftom a hud housing unit. I had a stalker and threatened me with a firearm. They said they could not guarantee my safety. Why it was an apartment complex. Now i am living in a truck. I was in fear for my life. This person was stalking me for 3 months. It makes you very fearful .

@Babette-cr2zu Ай бұрын

Please stay safe.

@AngelEyes-xm7el Ай бұрын

@@Babette-cr2zu i am living in a truck now. Disabled it really is hatd but i am away from there. That person is now stalking another. They are fearful and trying to leave there and 7 others kids came and took them home to there houses to be safe. God only knows why mine do not want me

@theConquerersMama Ай бұрын

The character Donny typed it is a true story. After the scene with the police to explain. It's a dramatic, storytelling tool. This is not a documentary. Netflix is covered by their disclaimers at the end and copyrights. Ask the folks who weren't thrilled with their depiction in the Dahmer project. He won the Olivier award for his one man show. It was in development. This isn't Netflix first rodeo with dramatizing "true" stories. Morally, it would have been nice to make Martha and Fiona farther apart? Not used dramatic license? Perhaps, but it's not show friends. It's show business. She is lucky that Jessica portrayed her in such a layered, nuanced, and ultimately sympathetic way. Because that is not how she presents in real life.

@harryhill8543 Ай бұрын

Any court case has to call her as a witness, and get the TV cameras in!

@arthurlimbk Ай бұрын

The Netflix legal rep said clearly and specifically that the series was a true story of Gadd’s abuse, he didn’t say the rest was true.

@kittymax2616 Ай бұрын

I completely believe this woman’s account Harvey is a dangerous stalker capable of anything

@maureenshaw8633 Ай бұрын

8:32 what a crazy world we live in today. Total madness. This woman is insane to do this to a number of people. I feel sorry for the victims. 😊

@erineddy7999 Ай бұрын

Who TF is running Netflix? This doesn’t even look like corruption, it’s just plain carelessness. Netflix: quit trying to get back the money you wasted on H and wife. Run a proper business for once. IMO

@DrOz-007 Ай бұрын

Right. Netflix look like amateurs at times. Can't even write a disclaimer properly. And that Netflix UK executive talking under oath sounded like a stiff breeze would blow him over.

@sistersister8830 Ай бұрын

All true stories made into shows or movies change things for dramatic effect. I thought everyone knew that. Perception changes based on the person, my true story will rarely 100% match another persons. That is why perception is bs and you have to be open to understanding why other people have the take they have.

@micheletotton9342 Ай бұрын

If she wasn't convicted she should of been ... please, all her victims band together and bring this insufferable woman to justice

@casandrar5266 Ай бұрын

but the Netflix show doesn’t major feature her. The story is from Richard’s point of view. Others seem to just jumping in. Peirs goes on about Netflix didn’t hide the character, yet peirs shows of these people for viewing. All balls

@astrothecat01 Ай бұрын

The point is that Laura herself was also outed by the press, & she is now receiving alot of hateful comments from Fiona supporters.

@MeanEileen916 Ай бұрын

LW is saying that if FH gets any money, then she will make herself worth suing.

@TubularBelles Ай бұрын

Netflix states in the closing credits that names, locations, dialogues etc are fictionalised for dramatic purposes.

@vonsocks4330 Ай бұрын

No conviction is only because the stalking laws and conviction rates of them are laughable.

@heathersalvatore9886 Ай бұрын

Poor Woman!

@patty2049 Ай бұрын

When I watched it I didn’t think every detail was true.

@marlabrown8022 Ай бұрын

Yeah, that woman is definitely disturbed.

@AtypicalPaul Ай бұрын

Netflix put it in fine print that it's not all real. So i dont see why she would have a case.

@scorpiorising7694 Ай бұрын

After the show had aired Netflix stated under oath in parliament that it was a true story and that she was a convicted stalker, doesn't really matter what they have in their end credits as a disclaimer

@jewelssunsun9450 Ай бұрын

@scorpiorising7694 she had an injunction taken out on her so in effect is convicted.

@scorpiorising7694 Ай бұрын

@jewelssunsun9450 with all due respect you're talking nonsense. An interim interdict (not an injunction) isn't in any way close to being a conviction, it's a civil process. As confirmed by Laura Wray herself she hasn't been convicted of any criminal offence, that's the bottom line.

@jewelssunsun9450 Ай бұрын

@scorpiorising7694 That's why I said 'in effect'. Laura said she wasn't convicted against her, she doesn't know if she has been convicted by anyone else. An interdict is the Scottish equivalent to the English injunction. Court action can be taken if not followed.

@scorpiorising7694 Ай бұрын

@@jewelssunsun9450 and that's why I said you were talking nonsense. She hasn't been convicted 'in effect' or any other way you want to dress it up. An interim interdict isn't a conviction by any definition. It also isn't an injunction like you claimed either.

@My_2pac_Remixes_Og_Vibes_Edits Ай бұрын

how a conviction is going to happen when nobody is taking you serious when you go to the police ... when the police is not doing anything about it .... and the stalker is proudly saying " i wasn't convicted with anything" ...does that makes her innocent ? or the system and police guilty ?

@clairemckinstray5175 Ай бұрын

Scottish Law is different from England’s Law, the black belt barrister is based in England, although I believe Fiona has lived in or around the London area for a long time, I’m assuming she will be using England’s Laws when she sues, it will be interesting to hear what The black belt barrister has to say on this

@Andy01833 Ай бұрын

I think Netflix has an ace in the hole! And are waiting to play it..

@lizroberts1569 29 күн бұрын

There was an interim interdict in Scotland to stop her stalking, she left the country. She may have convictions that aren’t apparent.

@lronbutters5688 Ай бұрын

I don’t understand why this is bad for Netflix? Sent from my iphoen

@MargaretRose15 Ай бұрын

Fiona can sue for damages. Laura can also sue for damages

@anitathomas6777 Ай бұрын

@@MargaretRose15but the show doesn’t feature her story except for a news clip… plus the story is said from Richard Gadd’s point view… if anything Piers is the one who revealed everyone’s identity

@kirstenwright3755 Ай бұрын

Piers has done nothing wrong Fiona came forward. And Netflix are at fault cause they r liars .

@SydMountaineer Ай бұрын

Thanks for this, Andy - I agree with you.

@niceplayground Ай бұрын

I dont understand why netflix added the conviction part to the story in the first place, I think the story would've been better without the conviction part since as a viewer that would freak me out even more

@renatajd7758 Ай бұрын

Aww, you need to experience this to understand it.

@tinab3627 Ай бұрын

To think that Fiona could beat Netflix is laughable. Not happening

@MeanEileen916 Ай бұрын

Where is the compassion for the victims? Loved ones of the direct victims are also victims of the abuse that stalkers perpetrate.

@kirstenwright3755 Ай бұрын

Laws have to change here. It’s ridiculous

@all_that_glitters13131 Ай бұрын

Netflix lied about details to hide who she was..... Fiona came forward to say she was Martha

@naieraamini9393 Ай бұрын

Thank you for finally pointing out that Piers seems to be completely stuck on something that isn’t the whole point of the show. I don’t know why he does that. This poor lady explained it best. Fiona has to prove her reputation was damaged due to the show but it seems she didn’t have a good reputation to begin with, so what’s the point of suing Netflix? I don’t understand these lawyers who are encouraging her to sue Netflix.

@richardoffen2946 Ай бұрын

This has got Prequel written all over this Netflix need to jump on this

@srolfe40 Ай бұрын

Or Netflix is getting enough evidence to beyond clear their name, is how I see them reaching out to her. To show it’s a pattern and make their case stronger, I’d reach out to her as well or anyone that’s had to deal with her.

@clairehawkes1112 Ай бұрын

They only contacted her a week ago because the information would mostly be public anyway in the UK. I’m not sure how much trouble Netflix are in here anyway in the UK. Our laws are so weak. As his lady says more than once you have to have a reputation to tarnish in the first place and she doesn’t