Real Talk: EVO Online Cancelled & The Future of the FGC

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Maximilian Dood

Maximilian Dood

4 жыл бұрын

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@Maximilian_Dood
@Maximilian_Dood 4 жыл бұрын
My apologies if advertisements were appearing on this video near the start. Sometimes channel networks and YT ad priority is hard to stop. Hopefully it's removed now.
@CaptianChito
@CaptianChito 4 жыл бұрын
It’s okay, i will always support you max
@StriderRyu
@StriderRyu 4 жыл бұрын
It's alright Max. The important thing is that your message was sent out and we listened.
@TheParadoxCreator
@TheParadoxCreator 4 жыл бұрын
Means a lot that you would make certain of that, Max. Your educational talks about fighting games, from technical stuff to social and mental stuff, is always amazing. Keep it up Dood
@LemoNanora
@LemoNanora 4 жыл бұрын
Pin the comment
@thefriendlessgamer8552
@thefriendlessgamer8552 4 жыл бұрын
Get that ad revenue man its fine.
@jzer0246
@jzer0246 4 жыл бұрын
He looks so fed up with everything
@CaliburovX4
@CaliburovX4 4 жыл бұрын
Ain’t we all?
@Fate263
@Fate263 4 жыл бұрын
Can't say I blame him... While 2020 is specifically a crappy year, as a gamer and fan of Evo, this is kinda what you don't need to happen.
@divineace4856
@divineace4856 4 жыл бұрын
@@CaliburovX4 No.
@Jose-se9pu
@Jose-se9pu 4 жыл бұрын
He does, he look legit tired...fuck, I think we all are, 2020 is a freaking endurance match.
@swan4568
@swan4568 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jose-se9pu An endurance match on Master difficulty smh
@superbaralai
@superbaralai 4 жыл бұрын
Twitter is not designed to have informed conversations. Its a place that generally just shows the worst in people.
@QuantumFishFTW
@QuantumFishFTW 4 жыл бұрын
We need to let that site die
@disgaealikerasapOG
@disgaealikerasapOG 4 жыл бұрын
@@QuantumFishFTW it's been going rapidly downhill ever since the tumblr refugees migrated there.
@sethmulhall186
@sethmulhall186 4 жыл бұрын
If people are exposing the worst in themselves, I'm ok with that.
@QuantumFishFTW
@QuantumFishFTW 4 жыл бұрын
@Antonio Rivera one can hope
@chrisfalcon_vt
@chrisfalcon_vt 4 жыл бұрын
Social Networks were a big mistake from day one. These things are breeding grounds for all sorts of idiots. People want to show their best but without being accounted by any mistakes that happen. Twitter, Facebook, any type of social media can die on a dumpster fire and nobody's gonna miss them. Besides cancel culture has become as toxic as ever too, with lots of people using this as a tool for nepotism and self-aggrandizement.
@khandarwilliam5439
@khandarwilliam5439 4 жыл бұрын
Marvel 2 in EVO "What did it cost?" "Everything"
@jl2351
@jl2351 4 жыл бұрын
That's a really sad reference😭
@djhero0071
@djhero0071 4 жыл бұрын
*skullgirls
@iqcontent7797
@iqcontent7797 4 жыл бұрын
"What did it cost?" "Sexual abuse allegations"
@itsddashrock
@itsddashrock 4 жыл бұрын
IQcontent Well shit.
@Dracobyte
@Dracobyte 4 жыл бұрын
Sad memes.
@BakingSoda4U
@BakingSoda4U 4 жыл бұрын
"The FGC is bigger than top players" Couldn't have said it better, man.
@yarc9
@yarc9 4 жыл бұрын
You can become your own top player no need top players telling you what to do
@JayFoxer
@JayFoxer 4 жыл бұрын
what would you have said it mister baking soda?
@greyygoblinn5639
@greyygoblinn5639 4 жыл бұрын
Literally that line gave me chills. That whole last bit fucking hit my heart idk why
@Demigod_3scrub
@Demigod_3scrub 4 жыл бұрын
Its a Family
@koholint3567
@koholint3567 4 жыл бұрын
👆what I was thinking when I found out. It is sad and disappointing, but the community can stand.
@Chris-vp6rz
@Chris-vp6rz 4 жыл бұрын
2020 really is just the year to test everyone; and just like in school no one had any idea it was coming
@BlindDevilNeko
@BlindDevilNeko 4 жыл бұрын
2021 happens and "Tutorial Complete" appears in the sky
@ally3417
@ally3417 4 жыл бұрын
Oh no, a game chanpionship got canceled, what a challenge to be faced... :v
@christopherr9983
@christopherr9983 4 жыл бұрын
@@ally3417 it's important to some people
@ally3417
@ally3417 4 жыл бұрын
@@christopherr9983 Still just a game championship
@victorkenarsy3024
@victorkenarsy3024 4 жыл бұрын
Ally COVID, Police brutality, systemic prejudice / racism coming to the forefront, unemployment, looting....that’s what they are referring to
@ThomatoSauce
@ThomatoSauce 4 жыл бұрын
2020 is just “No Fun Allowed - The Year.”
@jackarnold7213
@jackarnold7213 4 жыл бұрын
RedTomi indeed
@Yokai_Yuri
@Yokai_Yuri 4 жыл бұрын
2020 is the year where human stupidity stopped...oh wait
@Janfon1
@Janfon1 4 жыл бұрын
@@Yokai_Yuri More like it reached its peak. Screw cancel culture
@Ultrue87
@Ultrue87 4 жыл бұрын
Let's say this was recession time for us especially FGC
@bendover2684
@bendover2684 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe for you American
@VAIZEN
@VAIZEN 4 жыл бұрын
"The FGC is bigger than top players" Maximilam Dood As Always been wise and cool! ❤👍🏻 God Bless you!
@hit9819
@hit9819 4 жыл бұрын
And we’re only in July 4.... it’s very tragic for those involved and just wanna let everyone know to be safe and please take care of yourselves
@lynxfresh5214
@lynxfresh5214 4 жыл бұрын
Can we just skip to 2021 already?
@soraxstacy1477
@soraxstacy1477 4 жыл бұрын
Dont worry, 2020 is ranking up everything that is bleak, depressing, and all that is hell just so that the rest of the decade will be great. 2000's had everything great and everything bad towards the end
@TheDestroyerComics
@TheDestroyerComics 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you cold hearted space mercenary
@Thollis1987
@Thollis1987 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too.
@villager9874
@villager9874 4 жыл бұрын
Can't you just time skip to 2021 just to see if this planet is still here
@JohnThems
@JohnThems 4 жыл бұрын
Max, you're like one of the few people who I know who's genuinely not cynical or pretending to be not burnt out of fighting games. Even with what is arguably the cornerstone of fighting game venues is in shambles, people will learn to move onto the next thing and still continue to love fighting games through connection with people who they're closest to. Thank you for reminding that to everyone.
@Fartucus
@Fartucus 4 жыл бұрын
no problem, thanks for the support shortbus.
@StateOfTheMind11225
@StateOfTheMind11225 4 жыл бұрын
except the fact r/kappa is right now the leading stone of the FGC right now.
@Hailstormful
@Hailstormful 4 жыл бұрын
EVO has really grown into a cultural event, like a yearly Olympics. Seeing such a celebration of love for fighting games be tarnished by this kind of thing is disheartening
@bendover2684
@bendover2684 4 жыл бұрын
Olympics... Get a grip on life
@LordDragox412
@LordDragox412 4 жыл бұрын
We need Steve to make STEVO >:D
@Heyoeveryone
@Heyoeveryone 4 жыл бұрын
@@bendover2684 nah I agree. It's become one of the big competition like events for gaming. Obviously not Olympics level, but that's the potential.
@Yajeeb
@Yajeeb 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Dover in the gaming world, it’s like the olympics. People from all over the world come to compete, with thousands upon thousands of people showing up at the event,streaming and throwing money at it
@diablorojo3887
@diablorojo3887 4 жыл бұрын
core values
@GrizbyK72
@GrizbyK72 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it's the evolution of organizations. Once they get large enough, it's almost impossible for rot not to set in somewhere. Professional sports, the Olympics, WWE, etc. Where there's power, someone is waiting to abuse it. It was just competitive gaming's turn.
@pop-tartdepression393
@pop-tartdepression393 4 жыл бұрын
Good choice to leave out the "Let's go" Intro and the usual outro.
@alexisrafaelquinonez6902
@alexisrafaelquinonez6902 4 жыл бұрын
at the time of not seeing those intros, you can imagine that his opinion about this matter would be very serious. I was expecting his speech about all these stuff.
@MissAshley42
@MissAshley42 4 жыл бұрын
He should probably also remove the merch links from the video description, too.
@mauren7773
@mauren7773 4 жыл бұрын
@@MissAshley42 but why? Do you care?
@ArpeggioPegasusMusic
@ArpeggioPegasusMusic 4 жыл бұрын
@@MissAshley42 there's a difference between a pre-made description that's automatically included in every KZfaq video he posts and an intro / outro he has to manually edit in. And honestly, considering all the crazy work he puts out and how he chooses to speak up in these trying times, I think he deserves to leave it as is. It's not a big deal.
@aspreedacore
@aspreedacore 4 жыл бұрын
you must be new to his REAL TALK's, when he puts that in the title he *means* it. It's not a clickbait.
@Tallcat_TV
@Tallcat_TV 4 жыл бұрын
I spoke to you at EVO2018 and let you know that you're the most wholesome guy in this community. It was true then and it's true now. Please don't lose faith in what you enjoy doing.
@bendover2684
@bendover2684 4 жыл бұрын
Change your pfp and get a character
@marcushamner5994
@marcushamner5994 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always wanted to meet Max. He’s a great guy and has a big heart. This is another tragedy in a list of tragedies😢
@matabishippuden6965
@matabishippuden6965 4 жыл бұрын
also SMUG. ive never seen the dude get legitimately angry
@gerarc21XD
@gerarc21XD 4 жыл бұрын
@@bendover2684 what about you?
@Reiko425
@Reiko425 4 жыл бұрын
Ben Dover Gabe itch
@alittlebirdi
@alittlebirdi 4 жыл бұрын
The universe REFUSES to let Skull Girls have it's day!
@lonegamer1685
@lonegamer1685 4 жыл бұрын
Ik I would love to get into the game if it came on Xbox
@memperkasaya2078
@memperkasaya2078 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s because the game is edgy and bad
@Arz2003
@Arz2003 4 жыл бұрын
That game sucks anyways and douche creator
@sullivans2004
@sullivans2004 4 жыл бұрын
Arz2003 The creator might be a douche but the game isn’t bad, I’d take it over Mortal SJW Kombat 11 any fucking day.
@Gwrightproductions1
@Gwrightproductions1 4 жыл бұрын
We need a 3rd one
@almuhaaajir
@almuhaaajir 4 жыл бұрын
I hate when an assole make decent people feel like they have to explain themselves. You've always been a genuine person, Max. And it really bothers me that you have to go through this because of your association with Evo.
@HumanoidCableDreads
@HumanoidCableDreads 4 жыл бұрын
I hate twitter so much. That was a heart felt message and people on that stupid site go out of their way to find the worst interpretation of what anyone says.
@SilverWarrior95
@SilverWarrior95 4 жыл бұрын
You should see Reddit and 4chan....
@DougJK
@DougJK 4 жыл бұрын
KeyboardWarrior I feel like Twitter is worse at this point
@tarunjohal9215
@tarunjohal9215 4 жыл бұрын
This is why I quit Twitter about 6 years ago
@Dirtyboots3strikes
@Dirtyboots3strikes 4 жыл бұрын
Wanted to register on Twitter just to for the sake of freelancing early this year... So fucking glad I dodged the bullet there.
@soapbiter36577
@soapbiter36577 4 жыл бұрын
Best advice is to get out of that hellish site. It's terrible for your mental state
@censor9999
@censor9999 4 жыл бұрын
He’s right change typically doesn’t occur until consequences from the actions happen
@NocturnalIntuition
@NocturnalIntuition 4 жыл бұрын
True but the guy was 18 when he did these things. He’s had 2 decades of no consequences and no allegations of anything in those years in between .
@Kingdom_Heart
@Kingdom_Heart 4 жыл бұрын
Rico S and now the consequences of not changing are occurring
@SpaceOmega-zz6vs
@SpaceOmega-zz6vs 4 жыл бұрын
Some people can change without suffering from man-made consequences and if it's true that a last offense was say 20 years ago, and the person went through remorse alone, then that might be evidence. In fact some countries has gotten rid of retribution and yet some criminals change anyway...
@censor9999
@censor9999 4 жыл бұрын
SpaceOmega5000 there will always be exceptions and anomaly’s, I feel mr wizard isn’t one and I basis that on his behavior
@shadowboxin420
@shadowboxin420 4 жыл бұрын
Problem is when it comes to the underage stuff there really is no reform or change from that. Maybe in short spurts, but statistically speaking a child predator will always end up re-offending. They're sick in the head. There's also no statute of limitations when it comes to children. So I hope any of the kiddie diddlers have to become registered offenders. If you abuse a child in that way you don't deserve any sort of redemption. Destroying innocence is one of the most disgusting things that you can do to someone and it leads to life long mental issues. So no matter what it should not be excused. These are the people who need to be thrown out. Not people who shit talk or make some jokes that get people all upset. Jokes are jokes, sexual abuse towards minors especially is a whole different ball game.
@drenkrod9811
@drenkrod9811 4 жыл бұрын
NO community should be defined by its weakest link.
@davehan241
@davehan241 4 жыл бұрын
A community should be defined by how it TREATS its weakest, which is the flipside of the coin to how it treats its "weakest links"...meaning shit-hole predators. If you protect the predators and don't protect the victims, then that is THE PERFECT DATA to judge a community. Don't fall into some childish notion that there is some perfect community that exists free of a predators.
@Denter86
@Denter86 4 жыл бұрын
Perfectly put, thanks to you both.
@StateOfTheMind11225
@StateOfTheMind11225 4 жыл бұрын
Dave Han Lain except look at r/kappa, the FGC and everyone outside of the smash community, te smash community is now constantly bombarded with pedophile jokes and memes and there’s no way people are letting that shit go especially the whole smashers don’t shower meme held on for so long. This doesn’t hold back there’s no way to recover. It’s too late. The endgame is here.
@davehan241
@davehan241 4 жыл бұрын
​@@StateOfTheMind11225 So please be clear: You are saying that the damage to the Smash community is SOOOO irreversible and damaging, that this will DESTROY the entire Smash community...it's the "endgame"...like *SNAP* Now the whole universe is FLOOOOODED with smash memes and that's ALL that everyone can know and think about? Please re-visit how childish you sound in this moment in....1 or 5 years (depending on how physically/mentally mature you are now). You don't even have the guts to stand by your words with your name. Put your money where you mouth is. I'll bet you money that you'll eventually look back at this comment and be embarrassed at how stupid you sound DEFENDING the harm in exposing predators. And if you don't change your thinking in the future, well I guess you're one of those people that are OK with the Mr. Wizard of world waving their rapey wands around.
@GetCareless
@GetCareless 4 жыл бұрын
@@StateOfTheMind11225 yo for real, you sound very very stupid. I'm just like ????????
@WaqaHbk
@WaqaHbk 4 жыл бұрын
Live in Middle East, couldn't visit u in EVO, but been audience of the channel since 2010. You got me in to fighting games. Thank u
@mypal1990
@mypal1990 4 жыл бұрын
This hurts a lot. EVO is one of the biggest gaming events every year. To see it's reputation go out like that breaks my heart. All that years of work just destroyed in one fell swoop.
@Blackhawk211
@Blackhawk211 4 жыл бұрын
It was destroyed before it even began. The offender did the actions 20 years ago
@decksteroussnail
@decksteroussnail 4 жыл бұрын
Other events will just have to step up.
@Fishman465
@Fishman465 4 жыл бұрын
There's a chance that it can recover, but the new head will have their work cut out for them.
@xelasneko
@xelasneko 4 жыл бұрын
@@Blackhawk211 how does it retroactively destroy EVO for you? I don't even know Mr Wizard that much until this year.
@HotaruMitsuki101
@HotaruMitsuki101 4 жыл бұрын
It's so deep that I don't think it can ever recover from this. I think EVO is done after this.
@kezreck_
@kezreck_ 4 жыл бұрын
When you said that your "stupid brain" made those connections, I felt that. I know what it's like to spiral yourself down into self-doubt and depression for things you can't control. But that kind of empathy and self-questioning is what makes you a good person.
@pavleradosavljevic968
@pavleradosavljevic968 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. The fact you can always improve yourself as a person is a rare trait and you should cherish it. I feel that
@gishathosaurus6828
@gishathosaurus6828 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better myself, this kind of situations really shows up what is someone actually made of
@JOfJaZ
@JOfJaZ 4 жыл бұрын
It’s times like this where I have this constant fear of the crazy idea of “what if I said or did something that would have caused something like this? What if it was something I didn’t do or knew about?” And I have somewhat of a persecution complex, so these kind of things make it go haywire.
@1MCElias
@1MCElias 4 жыл бұрын
Can relate u.u
@CarbonRollerCaco
@CarbonRollerCaco 4 жыл бұрын
Sanobearon It's unavoidable. Evil is just far too entrenched in everything nowadays. All you can really do, at least as a commoner, is minimize your own culpability.
@-Ryu
@-Ryu 4 жыл бұрын
2020: the year that sounds like a game Angry Video Game Nerd would play....and Hate.
@jarmelatodyssechutminds126
@jarmelatodyssechutminds126 4 жыл бұрын
Is that because it is. It's like I'm playing some crappy game. Which I'm literally playing a crappy game that is gamer simulator 2020. It's like Angry Video Game Nerd mixed with I want to be the guy with all the gameplay style and genre were putting through the filters of Kaizo Mario Maker series and Sonic Advance 1 to 3 and Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure. It's hard. it's fast. it's cheap. It's so easy to die this many times.
@Naleb514
@Naleb514 4 жыл бұрын
2020 was produced by LJN
@chancemitchell4147
@chancemitchell4147 4 жыл бұрын
To quote my mans: “WHAT WERE THEY THINKING”
@YuushaBR
@YuushaBR 4 жыл бұрын
AAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS...
@duck7496
@duck7496 4 жыл бұрын
Fred Fucks has come back with the Laughin Jokin Numb-nuts
@KeroTheInvincible
@KeroTheInvincible 4 жыл бұрын
The only fighting game I consider myself involved with would be Smash, making this whole thing sting in particular. But what you said about the FGC not being about top players? I couldn't agree more. The best memory I have of Smash as a whole was one of my first times going to a non-"local" tourney with some friends. It was amazing seeing so many people interested in the same thing as I was. Seeing some names I'd seen on highlight videos or forum discussions. Playing friendlies. Watching matches. Getting hefted in the tourney itself. Going to lunch with my friends, and just generally having a good time. So, when the day was over, and we all went home, my one friend sent me a link to the stream where the rest of the tournament matches were playing. I realized something, then...... I honestly didn't give a shit about the matches. I couldn't have cared less who was winning, or who was going to win. Despite the event being the reason we went, it really wasn't the important part. Instead of watching tourneys online, I'd rather watch some funny GRsmash videos, or some hyped reactions for a recently announced character, or chat on a forum, or watch Sakurai gush for 45 minutes about my favourite fighting games I played in high-school. Because stuff like that is the game itself, and the community around it. The event is just a way for the community to express itself, and communities are thousands and thousands of people, not the top 20. That's not to say this isn't an incredibly serious issue, one that requires the attention it's getting. As much fun as games can be, they take a back-seat to real-life issues like this. You can't fix or improve something without acknowledging the problem, but I just really really hope the thing that so many people are invested in isn't ruined by something that never belonged in it in the first place.
@epic7981
@epic7981 4 жыл бұрын
This year just keeps getting rougher
@MT-jd8pc
@MT-jd8pc 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@jbzhummerh2gamer
@jbzhummerh2gamer 4 жыл бұрын
As 1 KZfaqr said, 2020 is cancelled.
@isaiahhellems7901
@isaiahhellems7901 4 жыл бұрын
I stay pragmatic in the face of all this. It's easy to get overwhelmed. But focus on logic and optimistic endeavors.
@MT-jd8pc
@MT-jd8pc 4 жыл бұрын
sadiq2008 hopefully
@whenyounutinhermouthandshe
@whenyounutinhermouthandshe 4 жыл бұрын
@sadiq2008 everyone says that, 2018 sucked, 2019 sucked, 2020 sucked, Dont get your hopes up. Wait and see.
@TastyChurro
@TastyChurro 4 жыл бұрын
The moment that Marvel 2 is back this happened.
@gamefan6219
@gamefan6219 4 жыл бұрын
I think we won't see MVC2 ever again,
@Anu_Evil_Queen
@Anu_Evil_Queen 4 жыл бұрын
Why did you have to twist the knife?
@therock238360
@therock238360 4 жыл бұрын
gamefan6219 if there’s a EVO 2021 we might see a Marvel 2 tournament again
@Spenerico
@Spenerico 4 жыл бұрын
The selfish part of my brain was really annoyed about that, but then the rest of my brain was like come on, look at the situation.
@4Wilko
@4Wilko 4 жыл бұрын
-"Not this year baybee!"- -"Just this year baybee!"- "Not this year baybee!"
@IcemanPrime
@IcemanPrime 4 жыл бұрын
I feel Max's frustration and anger in this video. Too much crap has been going on behind the scenes, and maybe a bit more and many are not being held accountable. That's even worse for the victims who have suffered. I don't consider myself a FGC competitor, but I do play fighters largely because of my friends and people like Max, but with what's going on recently, I'm not sure I could see myself staying in the scene for the future...
@thewii1916
@thewii1916 4 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't leave the scene just because of some disgusting people, who have been exposed and are being dealt with. Stay in the scene because there's still a lot of good left out there, but bad sticks out a lot more
@TheRealHoodedGeek
@TheRealHoodedGeek 4 жыл бұрын
Its a really screwed up time right now. Someone was questioning why some are acting like this is the death of the FGC and not treating it as a cleaning of house. I'll say here what I said to them Its because the person being accused is and has been a tent pole figure in the FGC for decades. People are shocked and confused by this, and see it as the house collapsing, not being cleaned out. BUT Houses can be rebuilt.
@ps3kiryu409
@ps3kiryu409 4 жыл бұрын
The real FGC is the friends we made along the way.
@thawindyking2740
@thawindyking2740 4 жыл бұрын
Never had I heard truer words this entire year, couldn't have said it better if I tried 😊😆
@ilijastankovic9063
@ilijastankovic9063 4 жыл бұрын
good comment
@facundomartinezhidalgo8669
@facundomartinezhidalgo8669 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. The journey and the love is the most important aspect.
@CrystalZ03
@CrystalZ03 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@WingZX1103
@WingZX1103 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah.
@lobodefuego69vr2
@lobodefuego69vr2 4 жыл бұрын
Remember when Byleth’s inclusion to smash was apparently the worst thing to happen to the community? I’m starting to miss those day.
@Swelu
@Swelu 4 жыл бұрын
i understand the statement but this is good that all of it is comming to a end for the victims and bringing light to these garbage humans...this is not a "smash community" thing either. it's human crimes
@lobodefuego69vr2
@lobodefuego69vr2 4 жыл бұрын
Emilio Campos I’m with you on that one
@nikolowolokin
@nikolowolokin 4 жыл бұрын
Haha byleth bad fire emblem bad banjo good doom slayer when🤡
@shinkenrock
@shinkenrock 4 жыл бұрын
hahahahah your so right
@Mario1080p
@Mario1080p 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when the worst insult that's been described to the Smash Community is them not taking showers for public tournaments.
@yanzthemanz392
@yanzthemanz392 4 жыл бұрын
This is what brings me back to this channel more than anything. His gameplay is fun yeah, and I can always have a good laugh with most of the content Max makes. But Max is someone who is VERY passionate not only about the games we all play, but it's communities. Max is so human and down to earth, it's nice seeing someone use their platform to speak up about tragic events.
@clutchcake7717
@clutchcake7717 4 жыл бұрын
2020 was already dead. Evo as a whole being canceling because of predators like Cuellar is basically spitting on this year's grave. 😞
@csmash342
@csmash342 4 жыл бұрын
Clutch Cake I mean COVID is pretty bad roo
@clutchcake7717
@clutchcake7717 4 жыл бұрын
@@csmash342 that's what I meant.
@DaedricCometa
@DaedricCometa 4 жыл бұрын
Cool pfp
@xander9299
@xander9299 4 жыл бұрын
Glad that you're one of the reasonable people in this.
@Hibernial
@Hibernial 4 жыл бұрын
Max is level headed. Leffen seemed level headed for the Smash community.
@shadytriceratops
@shadytriceratops 4 жыл бұрын
@@Hibernial It's ironic cause Leffen has always been antagonized within the Smash community
@solomonmiddleton8436
@solomonmiddleton8436 4 жыл бұрын
Shady Triceratops well he played the villain role well, but he was the best of us
@lynxfresh5214
@lynxfresh5214 4 жыл бұрын
@@solomonmiddleton8436 "Every villain is the hero of their story".
@agustinponce3773
@agustinponce3773 4 жыл бұрын
People were saying that about Zero and other people before they were exposed. 99% of us here don't really know max, anyone can have shady shit in the past, so stop idolizing people that seems good.
@ProfDragonite
@ProfDragonite 4 жыл бұрын
Max truly is the voice of reason in this community. It's good to know that he's being honest and level-headed.
@yopeepthestyle8308
@yopeepthestyle8308 4 жыл бұрын
I swear. Its so baffling and honestly border line scary how this whole cancel culture and mindless blind hating became. i feel this new generation of people hating anything and being entitled without knowing why but following a trend is very dangerous for all of society
@viewtifulgold4223
@viewtifulgold4223 4 жыл бұрын
@@yopeepthestyle8308 What does that have to do with OP's comment? Lmfao.
@brughther
@brughther 4 жыл бұрын
@@yopeepthestyle8308 literally has nothing to do with this shit, read the room
@yopeepthestyle8308
@yopeepthestyle8308 4 жыл бұрын
same topic. its very much related. but its adorable how some felt called out when I made a simple comment “out of context” 😂
@porkhill6665
@porkhill6665 4 жыл бұрын
neon “it’s adorable”
@PavyMac
@PavyMac 4 жыл бұрын
I am the FGC, you are the FGC, we are the FGC. The fighting game community started in our homes, rooms and local arcades. From SF2 on my Sega Genesis to MVC2 on my Dreamcast fighting games aren’t going anywhere. I love supporting this channel because it’s a great example of what fighting games represent which is community and fans. As long as we are here canceled tournaments will mean nothing in the grand scheme.
@ATD909
@ATD909 4 жыл бұрын
PavyMac Exactly! We will bounce back!
@KitoBallard
@KitoBallard 4 жыл бұрын
while I went to evo 2014, and fortunately I wasn't preyed on, I didn't find it a rather "welcoming" experience. It was cool, but I felt left out often and alone. The biggest memory I have is me playing Skullgirls with my usual team and their colors and someone coming up to me going "Wait, I reconize that team! You're Kit, aren't you?!". Still gives me a warm feeling. Else, it's just... wished it was a better experience.
@phoenixlich
@phoenixlich 4 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting to hear your perspective because, like it or not, i consider you a leader within the FGC and i trust your insight, guidance, and perspectives. I don't have your connections so i don't know how to feel about this correctly. To me you are an authority, you're gonna know the people affected by these dramas and can give an accounting that isn't clouded by bias or hearsay.
@goofygoober779
@goofygoober779 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly could not agree more with you.
@Birmanncat
@Birmanncat 4 жыл бұрын
>To me you are an authority And this is the answer to anyone wondering why those kids did what Wiz told them to do, even if they didn't want to and could have easily said NO.
@cell8992
@cell8992 4 жыл бұрын
Just remember to not idolize him, he's not your close friend and you have your own brain too!
@jolanjakers8380
@jolanjakers8380 4 жыл бұрын
@@cell8992 looking to someone for leadership doesnt mean you stop thinking goofy lol
@russellarcher5181
@russellarcher5181 4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting to hear, *THIS* perspective from Max, cuz oh boy, that first tweet he did about this, was REALLY shortsighted. It's nice to be optimistic and look for the best, but; you should've looked at this as a partner, (like Nintendo, NetherRelm, Bandai), and asked, "Who's involved."
@DocDevious23
@DocDevious23 4 жыл бұрын
You know... after all this, I feel like it's our responsibility as a community to step up and do better. We have to come together and make the change. People need to be leaders and be responsible. And if we do that, the FGC will come out of this stronger and better than it was before Edit: Also, Max? You have no fault in this whatsoever, and I'm sorry you have been let down and hurt so badly. We all have. But this community is DAMN lucky to have people like you as part of it. You're a good example of what we should aspire to be, as leaders and figureheads of the FGC
@nielsbeukers6319
@nielsbeukers6319 4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. It all kinda looks like shit right now but I know the fighting game community can be one of the best out there, we just have to show them we can do better!
@Mikedot
@Mikedot 4 жыл бұрын
We don't need any of this "I hope things get better." crap. That's lazy talk. Change will only come to those who make it happen, not those who just sit around and "hope".
@hugoaparicio9940
@hugoaparicio9940 4 жыл бұрын
You're response is very mature, I wish we had more responses like this in all events in our current timeline.
@aliciafraser1835
@aliciafraser1835 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mikedot Not to be that person, but would you like to share with us what you've started to do then? It's one thing to say something like that, but a completely different thing to actually start acting on it.
@fernandobanda5734
@fernandobanda5734 4 жыл бұрын
How do we step up, do better, come together and make what change? Everyone wants things to be okay obviously.
@ArkyHeartless
@ArkyHeartless 4 жыл бұрын
Remember when Onslaught on MVC1 would say "The dream is dead?" ....... I felt that this year. 🥺
@thetonebox
@thetonebox 4 жыл бұрын
DREAMS DON'T DIE
@johndewberryiii9925
@johndewberryiii9925 4 жыл бұрын
That used to make me so depressed. That Onslaught was a real bastard
@opencasegaming1302
@opencasegaming1302 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing how badly you wanted for KI to come back into the FG scene and it finally does in Evo and now you arent supporting it or taking part in it in any way. Really shows how much of a good person you are man. Nothing but respect to you
@nehemiahdick3714
@nehemiahdick3714 4 жыл бұрын
Maximilian dood this is cleansing period for FGC. Afterall Mr Wizard abused his power too much. "Core values" hitting Mr. Wizard in the face during this cleansing
@LordDragox412
@LordDragox412 4 жыл бұрын
@Angga Antonio More like Mr. 'Rotten to the Core Values' >:P
@ziq1292
@ziq1292 4 жыл бұрын
Kazuya mishima
@anouk356
@anouk356 4 жыл бұрын
@@ziq1292 Don't do my boy like that. Kazuya is better than that
@cell4224
@cell4224 4 жыл бұрын
The guy who accused him has been ousted as a sexual predator himself, The meltdown is real.
@MrDeathbydying
@MrDeathbydying 4 жыл бұрын
@@cell4224 I'm always shocked at how prevalent this shit is. In the FGC of all things, so disgusting
@Lunatic89097
@Lunatic89097 4 жыл бұрын
I had to stop at the 8 minute mark to say this. Whether you read this or not, that's fine. I understand the sentiment at how you feel partially responsible for the events that have occurred, but know that there are people behind you who believe in you. You're not the one at fault here. The community itself needs to step up and place people accountable for every egregious action, friends or not.
@filipepires9860
@filipepires9860 4 жыл бұрын
I feel for Max Its one of the best people i found on youtube, and he really made me like fighting games Sure i played injustice because i was a DC fan, but finding this channel opened me up to so many games and really made me love fighting games Hes really one of the greatest and he offers a lot to this comunity, glad we have him
@invertbrid
@invertbrid 4 жыл бұрын
True. Some ppl indeed deserved to be cancelled. Just be careful with false accusation and false allegation tho.
@parrisxsummers
@parrisxsummers 4 жыл бұрын
Erm no. Max is a pillar in the community. He didn’t speak out before and he knew there were accounts of rape and molested minors. Being quiet is what allows the monsters to continue. So max is responsible, BUT, he is speaking now and he needs to keep speaking up.
@chevypurple
@chevypurple 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but ; The community is known for antics such as the YT video « the brilliant fighting community » by crowbat. If you haven’t watch it. You should. Events that have come out are a different kind of antics , but that’s just how business is : as usual. FGC isn’t one to show respect
@Stroggoii
@Stroggoii 4 жыл бұрын
@@parrisxsummers Nobody is responsible for anything but their own actions. And while assholes on Twitter assume all accusations are valid the truth is falsely accusing someone is evil, so not saying anything because you're not sure of the veracity or the claims is the moral thing to do.
@sack943
@sack943 4 жыл бұрын
I brought my son to Evo the first time when Justin Wong reclaimed the mahvel throne I bonded with my son over the hype of jwong taking back the crown it was an amazing experience for the both of us I've went every year since and will miss it this year hopefully it returns next year
@deviantknight7009
@deviantknight7009 4 жыл бұрын
Youve kept your nose clean my brother. All the best to you and your wife. Youve been an amazing guy all these years.
@leanglo2924
@leanglo2924 4 жыл бұрын
If we had more people like Max in the FGC, we would be unstoppable.
@richardo490
@richardo490 4 жыл бұрын
Fear the Rollback
@cykosloth6800
@cykosloth6800 4 жыл бұрын
Fear the Rollback
@tranvinhnhat1289
@tranvinhnhat1289 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t get too cocky. Because everything is unpredictable and it will do it again in the future. So prepare.
@TGMShoNuff
@TGMShoNuff 4 жыл бұрын
People need to branch out of Max and view there are others out there that has the very same passion for fighting games and wish to create a positive community. There's many but most don't feel as though they desire to because while Max is heavily vocal and appears to be the most transparent, there are many that should also be at least on that platform WITH him.
@tylerdd2680
@tylerdd2680 4 жыл бұрын
Nah.
@merritt2014
@merritt2014 4 жыл бұрын
While I know everyone's down about things, the best way to look at this entire situation is in a positive light rather then a negative light. Exposing people who are engaging in these acts and that are complicit in these acts and cleansing the community of them is great. And with this, we then set a new precedent that this will NEVER be tolerated ever again.
@NotAGoodUsername360
@NotAGoodUsername360 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, where would we be without the warm glow of burning witches to keep us warm at night? This is a happy occasion. Mob justice is always a good thing.
@GawainSSB
@GawainSSB 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think calling it "great" is right. Necessary but not great. What would be great is if the bad things never happened in the first place.
@nicholas3141
@nicholas3141 4 жыл бұрын
This will always happen and toxic communities will always happen were kinda fucked
@merritt2014
@merritt2014 4 жыл бұрын
@@GawainSSB Well I mean it's just reality. I would like everything to be 100% perfectly peaceful with 0 issues too but that's not the case and it's great that people are less afraid to come forward with information we need to expose people in the community and work towards actions to prevent this from happening again.
@Gailardia_Galan
@Gailardia_Galan 4 жыл бұрын
@@merritt2014 Let's just make sure that we are separating the real from the fake. Accountability is one thing for those who are GUILTY. But I hope we take just as much action against those who do fake claims, because just how these pedos, rapists, harassers, etc. ruin the lives of their victims for years, the fake victims who accuse innocent people...the majority of the time, those innocent people can never truly recover what they have lost. So I hope and pray, PRAY this becomes a TRUE balance and I also hope that this is not the start of some type of online vigilanteism to weed out people that are deemed not "fit" for the community (NOT talking about the rapists/pedos/etc)
@JJ-dr7vs
@JJ-dr7vs 4 жыл бұрын
2020: war. War never changes Us: this is a war against everyone at the minute
@anthonygerardotorresgonzal6269
@anthonygerardotorresgonzal6269 4 жыл бұрын
Big Boss: War has Changed
@ermonski
@ermonski 4 жыл бұрын
I wasn't there, man.
@Xaasrevile
@Xaasrevile 4 жыл бұрын
this has nothing to do with 2020 other than we found out now. its been going on for years
@nilesknives6484
@nilesknives6484 4 жыл бұрын
Old Snake: War has changed
@gamerhats4145
@gamerhats4145 4 жыл бұрын
Max, I will NEVER come to your channel for drama. I come to this channel for two things, watching you play video games, and watching your goofy-ass smiling and laughing and raging at games with your buds or on your own! That will not change, shine on dude!
@tailsBOOM1992
@tailsBOOM1992 4 жыл бұрын
Nairo broke my heart... I had complete and utter trust in him, and he wound up being someone else completely. Seeing all these people in Smash and the rest of the FGC suffer is heartbreaking. Hopefully we can oust those disgusting people and fix the FGC.
@yendore.sniktaw8801
@yendore.sniktaw8801 4 жыл бұрын
What happened???
@dessertoni
@dessertoni 4 жыл бұрын
@@yendore.sniktaw8801 Several people in the fgc were accused of sexual behavior and many have admitted to it
@Godthissucksss
@Godthissucksss 4 жыл бұрын
And ZeRo
@nano3735
@nano3735 4 жыл бұрын
Ethan Byrne tf did zero do?
@Gamekid1254
@Gamekid1254 4 жыл бұрын
Yendor E. Sniktaw Nairo was in a sexual relationship with CaptainZack (Zack was around 15 at the time while Nairo was around 20-21) and he paid Zack $2000 in hush money to make sure he didn’t spill the beans on their sexual relationship.
@Lunethzero
@Lunethzero 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like every community in the gaming world is getting hit with stuff like this. Crazy times man.
@Yukari_MAiG
@Yukari_MAiG 4 жыл бұрын
People were getting away with these horrible stuff for far too long. :(
@edcellwarrior
@edcellwarrior 4 жыл бұрын
What other community got hit with stuff like this?
@IAmebAdger
@IAmebAdger 4 жыл бұрын
@@edcellwarrior DotA. It was mostly Grant, although there's come other people.
@colinanthony2011
@colinanthony2011 4 жыл бұрын
edcellwarrior Magic the Gathering, AAA game development, Destiny, WoW esports, etc.
@MissAshley42
@MissAshley42 4 жыл бұрын
@@edcellwarrior Comics and pro wrestling.
@great-white-lynx825
@great-white-lynx825 4 жыл бұрын
18:00 This quote, truest words than those don't exist, I agree immensely. The Fighting Game Community and the games played, be it Skullgirls, Super Smash Bros, Street Fighter, whatever else, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE TOP PLAYERS, it never was and never will be. Top Players ruined EVO for this year, but they sure as Hell did not ruin it for the rest of its existence, now we know what they did and they can suffer for the atrocities they commited, and now it's time for new management under the right people and for us as a community to rebuild and reshape things in a brighter light. Unfortunately, people feel betrayed because they looked up to these disgusting predators and I've seen some of those people go as far as giving up on Smash Bros as a whole because of this, it's understandable that you feel betrayed, but don't let that feeling of betrayal stain what you loved to do as part of the community, if you loved Smash Bros and still love it, don't give up on it because some random motherfucker turned out to be the most disgusting monster ever, make it your own journey, play it because you love it.
@simonjasso9429
@simonjasso9429 4 жыл бұрын
Prayers to everyone it seems like everyone’s got their heads down I just wanna see my people prosper ❤️
@ShenZxro
@ShenZxro 4 жыл бұрын
just by the look on Max’s face on the thumbnail, I know this is about to be a video worth anyone’s time.
@alexisrafaelquinonez6902
@alexisrafaelquinonez6902 4 жыл бұрын
Bro, even in his gestures you can see all the emotional pain he has been through in the last hours. Is really sad. Max is a very dedicated and passionated person that put a lot of effort to bring people to EVO and to teach players about the FGC.
@DuskMorgan101
@DuskMorgan101 4 жыл бұрын
@@alexisrafaelquinonez6902 For this to happen i havent seen Max upset since Marvel vs capcom infinte talk im worried about him with the way he was during this whole video i just hope his wife and kid are ok though
@Slayer99924
@Slayer99924 4 жыл бұрын
Max, you have no fault in this. You are the reason many of us are here! We all share a connection to fighting games, and video games in general. You've given us a place that feels so genuine. I believe I wont be the only person that feels this way but I legitimately feel that you love the community. Please rest up if you need to.
@snipebob2222
@snipebob2222 4 жыл бұрын
Somewhere DSP and low tier god is laughing at Evo burning to the ground.
@PitBoss_90
@PitBoss_90 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much
@blackmanta2527
@blackmanta2527 4 жыл бұрын
Why
@CoratMcRed
@CoratMcRed 4 жыл бұрын
At this point, DSP is gonna outlast the eventual heat death of the universe
@-huracan-8444
@-huracan-8444 4 жыл бұрын
What if DSP is the key to save 2020?
@R.-.W
@R.-.W 4 жыл бұрын
Who is DSP and low tier?
@xotron3379
@xotron3379 4 жыл бұрын
Max is a beacon of hope in the FGC, he's truly a beam of light in the darkness. Thank you for being a voice of reason Max.
@tokyobassist
@tokyobassist 4 жыл бұрын
All these sponsors and companies might not want to be associated with the FGC anymore. Mike Ross was right.
@AlriikRidesAgain
@AlriikRidesAgain 4 жыл бұрын
.... I just, so... My favorite show growing up was the Cosby show. My favorite wrestler was Chris Benoit. I am so used to my heroes failing me. But Mr. Wizard hurt harder because I always thought he was one of us. And now we lost our Super Bowl. Because of him. Like, I know this had to happen, but... Mahvel was coming back... KI... I was just... So ready, y'know?
@ravenfrancis1476
@ravenfrancis1476 4 жыл бұрын
Priorities, man. He sexually assaulted people, that’s more important than your video game contest
@kazekage18000
@kazekage18000 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite wrestler and dream match was David Starr, so I totally get this.
@AlriikRidesAgain
@AlriikRidesAgain 4 жыл бұрын
@@ravenfrancis1476 Don't act like I don't know that, man. Dude's shit, needed to be shitcanned. I am just sad about it all. I am not mourning the memory of the man who deserves to be crapped on. I mourn all that man was supposed to represent and destroyed by being a creep. I mourn the hard work that was lost, and I mourn those who he hurt. And I mourn Sajam's chance of announcing a KI Tourney at EVO.
@ravenfrancis1476
@ravenfrancis1476 4 жыл бұрын
AlriikRidesAgain My point is that being sad about this stuff is okay, but it’s kinda fucked up to turn this conversation into his sad you are you won’t get to play your video game contests anymore
@marc-andredeslauriers7687
@marc-andredeslauriers7687 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Francis it’s one among hundreds of comments. He’s not turning the conversation into anything. Let the man be sad about it instead of attacking him. Peace.
@MFBandit
@MFBandit 4 жыл бұрын
This is a big wound for Smash and The FGC. And like any other deep wound, it hurts a lot. This pain will be there for a while, but give it time and it will heal. It will leave a scar, and it will remind us and learn from it, become better from it. As this is a painfull time we live in, this is also the most important step for the communities, towards a better future. We will rise up again, Better than Ever.
@NecroCh
@NecroCh 4 жыл бұрын
Right in the Core Values!
@bobbywrtm
@bobbywrtm 4 жыл бұрын
Skullgirls is really cursed huh?
@Lamp94100
@Lamp94100 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it also (indirectly) kinda saves EVO with its curse
@Thelowestofthelowtiers
@Thelowestofthelowtiers 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah whatever happened with Evo and Mike Z really screwed the franchise over. I was ready for them to get that new flood attention that this game hasn't even had since 2017.
@doctorreed_
@doctorreed_ 4 жыл бұрын
really? THIS is your takeaway? okay.
@axsprime
@axsprime 4 жыл бұрын
I swear Mike Z codded Skullgirls on an ancient Native American burial ground.
@Joker-nh6dd
@Joker-nh6dd 4 жыл бұрын
@@doctorreed_ it's just a joke dude calmate
@nnnooowwwaaayyy
@nnnooowwwaaayyy 4 жыл бұрын
It feels like you’re one of the few modest people left in this crazy world. Thank you for all you do Max, you’re the best
@JetStrmSam
@JetStrmSam 4 жыл бұрын
Max last year was my first Evo and I want there to be many more. I wanted to thank you for all your hardwork and sacrifice to be involved in this community. I missed the meet and greet but did attend the panel on content creation. I never knew you did this for free. It makes me, and I can assume a lot of this community, appreciate and love you even more. Shine on and we will see the light at the end of tunnel next year!
@Neoxon619
@Neoxon619 4 жыл бұрын
I do truly believe that we can rebuild the community into something better, but we need to seriously reflect on how things got to this point & how to prevent it from happening again.
@SBaby
@SBaby 4 жыл бұрын
A Competitive League that is run by Maximilian Dood. I'm not a huge fan of competitive (and as many people know, I have voiced my issues with it many times), but this is something I totally would watch.
@Alstevens83
@Alstevens83 4 жыл бұрын
SBaby I think whatever Evo will become in the future Max should be a consultant of some sorts to make sure nothing like this can happens again. It’s a different thing all together, but in the wargaming community in the UK, by law your required to have a DBS done (basically a background check to see if you’ve got a criminal record) while these checks wouldn’t be useful if someone hasn’t been arrested and convicted of a crime, like a lot of these stories coming out. But it might be better than nothing. This is just an awful situation that’s come out and I feel sorry for anyone who has been effected by these ‘humans’ actions.
@GuiltyKit
@GuiltyKit 4 жыл бұрын
It's as simple as what people have been insisting on for years. Cut out the toxic crap, stop treating pro players like that elevates them somehow morally or turns them into role models, and stop supporting the kind of social environment that makes predators feel safe. From this, to Aris, to every other dark stain on FGC history, allllllllllll of that has to stop and go away. Forever. We don't have to stop being rowdy. But there has to be a clear, blatant line you don't cross, and that everyone is going to call out when it gets crossed.
@Millicente
@Millicente 4 жыл бұрын
Nope. Impossible. Because humans will always be shit
@15inches77
@15inches77 4 жыл бұрын
@@GuiltyKit ok but thats vague, how do we know what is the toxic crap and how does the average person stop that environment
@sbfh014
@sbfh014 4 жыл бұрын
With the recent shitstorm surrounding the fgc, I still wish you all don't lose your hope in it, and that everyone gets through it. Alot of people are shown their true colors, so it's up to you to look up to others who, you know, don't actually do bad stuff, lol
@omarborrero1486
@omarborrero1486 4 жыл бұрын
"DTA: Don't Trust Anyone": Steve Austin
@christopheryanez
@christopheryanez 4 жыл бұрын
@@omarborrero1486 bottom line
@omarborrero1486
@omarborrero1486 4 жыл бұрын
@@christopheryanez The bottom line is that the people on social are far too trusting for the good. As someone someone who keeps his life private, my point is NEVER post anything that you are going to regret and never idolize anyone just because they are good at a certain game but as most people has skeletons in their closet and most important of all, watch your back and careful who you meet online. Stay safe, whether ve online or offline.
@ZanyWitch7
@ZanyWitch7 4 жыл бұрын
In my many years being online, I've seen many cases of people or personalities dealing with the repercussions or accusations regarding sexual harassment or anything else as foul. So while I may find it old to hear these stories at this point, I can definitely recognize how horrible of an impact it can leave and this is certainly no exception. While I could just wait and anticipate who is going to be the next sexual predator to be exposed, I'll instead give my hopes and prayers for all the good people to rebuild their communities from the rubble left behind from these tragedies. As for you Max, keep up the good work. You've proven time and time again how great fighting games can be even if I don't really play any of them barring Smash Bros.
@cedaylejohnson997
@cedaylejohnson997 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to the announcements and trailers this year and watching it
@majjkk999gaming6
@majjkk999gaming6 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to you commenting Max, but with the current status its a shame, my thoughts, and condolences to the victims that had to go through the trauma, your bravery to speak up has our ears open, hope all can get better, and the accused can do better.
@TriforceZard
@TriforceZard 4 жыл бұрын
I hope all of the victims of everything can recover. As for Smash, I don’t think the scene will ever be able to fully recover.
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228
@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 4 жыл бұрын
Nintendo has a pretty good excuse now to not support that conmunity...
@hajisaiku
@hajisaiku 4 жыл бұрын
This the absolutely worst time for this Sakurai is already struggling to keep up with constant stress of the community not liking a character and then this Smash was literally getting dragged for having a bad community this aint good
@josephsmiley1
@josephsmiley1 4 жыл бұрын
@Lain Doubt it. It's a big F for the smash community.
@StateOfTheMind11225
@StateOfTheMind11225 4 жыл бұрын
Lain except look at r/kappa, the FGC and everyone outside of the smash community, te smash community is now constantly bombarded with pedophile jokes and memes and there’s no way people are letting that shit go especially the whole smashers don’t shower meme held on for so long. This doesn’t hold back there’s no way to recover.
@visualherpes8462
@visualherpes8462 4 жыл бұрын
I used to attend evo very year and bring my younger cousin because i want him to sense the feeling of community and now i am now fearful for him and all the minors who goes to evo, I think the fear can’t really be removed anymore, the sour taste will stay forever and I think I can’t support that
@chrislmaoo
@chrislmaoo 4 жыл бұрын
Max is honestly the most professional acting man on this website, I have so much respect for gim
@jordandaraujo7810
@jordandaraujo7810 4 жыл бұрын
Max is truly, truly one of the most morally grounded and down to Earth KZfaqrs out there.
@kionoservin8221
@kionoservin8221 4 жыл бұрын
I literally was just looking for this!
@rasseabreeze6246
@rasseabreeze6246 4 жыл бұрын
@@arbellason2094 Remember when people weren't overly pedantic in lieu of forming a pleasant social identity? Good times.
@oreoex-rwbyhater599
@oreoex-rwbyhater599 4 жыл бұрын
How is he using it incorrectly? If he was looking for it then that means he was literally looking for it. Dude dont even know what the word mean
@mannyr1823
@mannyr1823 4 жыл бұрын
2020 is getting much darker Real Talk....💯💯💯💯
@xdmoath
@xdmoath 4 жыл бұрын
That is a good news that this monster who attack kids got exposed in front of the world
@Voingous
@Voingous 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, it was when the vidya games stopped that it got darker.
@JaceAce22
@JaceAce22 4 жыл бұрын
Drama like this has been affecting the victims for years. If anything, this helps the victims. It really brings what we love down, but I'm sure it can be fixed and restarted, right? The criminals don't represent community. Communities are better for things like this, letting victims within come out safely and bravely while bringing down those that hurt them, better people just have to step in.
@Keirnoth
@Keirnoth 4 жыл бұрын
Witch hunts are NOT effective for a community. It breeds an authoritarian mindset where people will use clalout culture to silence people. Sure the "right targets" were made for these accusations (which are still accusations), but to think something like this is perfectly healthy for any kind of community is a huge mistake. What we need is to encourage people to step forward and get these accusations investigated as quickly and as urgently as possible so we can bring justice for these victims. Twitter is not and SHOULD NOT be used as a court, the court of public opinion should not have the final say on who should be or not be allowed in this community. I am glad people like Mr Wizard was extradited from this community, and I'm glad the people who leveraged these accusations had the evidence to back it up, but I fear something like a "ProJared" is going to happen where "victims" come forward, leverage accusations at someone (no matter how big or small), and then 1 month later you come to find all of the information is blatantly false or conveniently cut up to benefit one's narrative. There has to be some middleground that allows victims to come forward but not have to subject the accused to this kind of witch hunt mob mentality until proper evidence is verified. Some sort of action or organization within the FGC that allows them to investigate these claims to provide protection to both the victim and the accused. We are lucky people like Wiz admitted to their criminal act, but not all situations will be this cut and dry.
@ShadowKusano
@ShadowKusano 4 жыл бұрын
My girlfriend was raped and she didn’t know what to do, she thought not saying anything would be better for everyone’s sake but I convinced her to do the right thing, not to hide it but to come forward, TO THE COPS. Problem is that no one goes to the police and sometimes these people do it cause it’s the right thing, sometimes they do it for the attention to see others suffer, to entertain themselves. We are at that point where the internet is now judge jury and executioner when it’s not, these situations need to be investigated by professional law enforcement. You never know, sometimes there’s more to the story than we will ever know.
@CC42_
@CC42_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowKusano the internet should not be the first place though for making these kinda allegations. For every person that rightfully gets caught there's someone whose career gets ruined because of how easily the mob mentality and court of public opinion operate through the internet.
@snintendog
@snintendog 4 жыл бұрын
@@CC42_ its a 99% failure via twitter almost NO ONE is guilty when accused on twitter but they get their lives ruined anyway by these disgusting inhuman filth that calls its movement metoo.
@blitzkriegdragon013
@blitzkriegdragon013 4 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowKusano There are so many stories on Twitter of women coming forward to the cops and then being gaslighted into doing nothing. The cops have proven themselves to be ineffectual in this manner.
@ihatealllife
@ihatealllife 4 жыл бұрын
I just discovered you today while going through Killer Instinct videos. Been binging your videos and then I come across this. And of course I got a little concerned, hoping you would be on the right side of this, but not really knowing you from Adam. And you are. Despite the difficulty of doing that -- even though you were a part of EVO for so long -- you're still doing the right thing. You seriously rock for that. Subscribed with all notifications.
@Vulcanfaux
@Vulcanfaux 4 жыл бұрын
While you didn't get me into fighting games, you did reignite my interest in it when I was starting to drift away from the genre
@eViLPaCcc
@eViLPaCcc 4 жыл бұрын
This was the guy who said DoA 6 didn't represent EVO's Core Values. And now this... You know, I'm going to be among the first people to tell that DoA as a fighting game is really boring to watch despite being fun to play. It's probably too casual-oriented. It doesn't have a huge community and it doesn't get a lot of clicks on streams AND in tournaments. The developers are greedy hacks who essentially ran it to the ground with the monetisation system that even Gacha games would deem too shady. ANYTHING from the list above I would've understood and accepted. But no, this arse had to go and ALLEGEDLY pull off a diet Jimmy Seville after having had that statement issued. Sorry for the rant, but this genuinely angered me.
@Hibernial
@Hibernial 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. Core values man reeeeally showed where his values were by hiding them for years; and promoting an opposite image to mentally compartmentalize it to boot without confronting it.
@paddyofurniture9523
@paddyofurniture9523 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly, I'm inclined to agree. I loved DoA, but I'm not blind to how stuck the series has been in what I guess could be called its 'adolescent' phase. Like the series was THIS close to growing up, then after the 4th game when Itagaki stepped down as director, Koei Tecmo was like "aight enough of this deep gameplay and competitive spirit, bring on the bikinis and lolis and tiddies! Don't hold back, let's get literally everything from the DoA Extreme games into this, we'll make bank!"
@thawindyking2740
@thawindyking2740 4 жыл бұрын
I'm confused, are we talking about Max? Or someone in the DoA community, I apologize I'm not as knowledgeable of this as I've only recently gotten into DoA (friends got me playing the older games)
@Fishman465
@Fishman465 4 жыл бұрын
The guy went about doing wonky stuff with smash games too, so honestly should EVO recover, it'll be better than ever.
@ToyotaKudoFan
@ToyotaKudoFan 4 жыл бұрын
@@thawindyking2740 Not Max, Joey Cuellar, one of the guys who runs/ran EVO who's now been exposed for sexual misconduct. He basically said DOA doesn't represent EVO's "core values" after a sexually suggestive ad involving DOA aired on EVO Japan's stream.
@alistairblaire6001
@alistairblaire6001 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the real EVO is the friends we made along the way.
@juanig4198
@juanig4198 3 жыл бұрын
But we didnt, quarentine remenber
@arbetor12
@arbetor12 3 жыл бұрын
a great way of putting it my friend and it's true even if you don't go to EVO you are a part of a massive family and seeing one of our member's go out and do something like this isn't something we can forgive them for
@muddlewait8844
@muddlewait8844 4 жыл бұрын
Max being kind of his own category in the FGC may have seemed like he was being a bit aloof before, but it sure looks wise now
@Sora2314
@Sora2314 4 жыл бұрын
Was that when he was talking about separating himself from the main FGC for a few years now? Why exactly did he do that? I’m curious
@caithan
@caithan 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sora2314 its obvious because he has grown in his endeavors. His streaming career and his job. He could not invest more time into the larger FGC because of his own growth, and he has his own community to attend to. Its a lot of work what he does and time consuming as well
@Sora2314
@Sora2314 4 жыл бұрын
@@caithan Ohh okay I totally get that. For some reason I looked at it as him distancing himself from toxicity in the FGC or something.
@videogameadventure
@videogameadventure 4 жыл бұрын
It’s sad that the FGC and Smash community is going to suffer because what these individuals did with this scar on it. I hope that both communities recover from this and heal the scar that is caused by them. But know this, it’s going to be an extreme uphill battle that everyone have to endure. As for the victims that have been victimized by those individuals, my condolences to y’all and I pray that you’re alright and able to recover from this. To everyone else, please don’t blame both of the whole communities because of a couple of bad eggs. It’s unfair to put innocent folks in both communities in the same boat with those individuals.
@Shad809
@Shad809 4 жыл бұрын
THIS. I feel people are overblowing this and just blindly act like entire communities of people across the world should be responsible for the actions of a heinous few. What they did is horrible and they should be treated as such; but as we have seen for the past few months, just because one person in a group does something shitty, that is absolutely not an excuse to mindlessly associate the two with each other.
@saturn_jupiteruranus_neptu5827
@saturn_jupiteruranus_neptu5827 4 жыл бұрын
I hate how some people think they know that they know everything about, say a gamer, despite all we know is that they're good at games.
@TheRogueWolf
@TheRogueWolf 4 жыл бұрын
@@Shad809 Unfortunately there are some people who- while not actually committing bad acts themselves- not only turn a blind eye to this sort of thing, but declare it a necessary part of the culture. Too much of that is why we end up with "flare outs" like this, where everything collapses and lots of people who had nothing to do with any of it suffer. Nobody wants to be the person who "spoils the fun", but I think we're seeing now more than ever not only the value, but the _necessity_ of speaking out _when the bad thing happens._
@lazybacon7520
@lazybacon7520 4 жыл бұрын
Smash is unfortunately getting the brunt of it because they were already unjustly one of the biggest laughingstocks of gaming communities AND the accusations began there, despite eventually spreading to encompass the entirety of the FGC. I think the FGC and Smash community will be fine in the long run (EVO's future in its current form is debatable), but there's going to be some heavy generalizations going on for a little while.
@Fishman465
@Fishman465 4 жыл бұрын
@@lazybacon7520 People have been using this to take shots at the whole community.
@wickeder2074
@wickeder2074 4 жыл бұрын
When I saw that Zero was a part of this I was just at a lost for words. He was really the only reason I was interested in Ultimate and to find out the type of things he did was just horrible. I hope that the FGC can recover from this, but something tells me that this isn't the end of these terrible allegations.
@15chagO
@15chagO 4 жыл бұрын
What? ZeRo is involved? Jeez.
@Maverick180c
@Maverick180c 4 жыл бұрын
@@15chagO His stuff isn't nearly as bad as the others, but yeah.
@jenniferhamels1176
@jenniferhamels1176 4 жыл бұрын
I see no reason the FGC can’t recover. Every sport, every community has their fair share of serious issues and they can bounce back. It is important to spread awareness that evil people exist, but let’s not forget every community even the FGC have people who are not tainted. Let’s not forget these good people exist even though there is this massive cloud trying to overshadow their existence. The FGC can rebuild bigger and better, and there is no better time than now for the good ones to come together and rebuild a better community.
@theeragon8797
@theeragon8797 4 жыл бұрын
Worse thing is zero has the highest hope of coming back and they are slim I still thing leffens accusations on him are dumb because he was 17 . Everything else is inexcusable
@TheFlame234
@TheFlame234 4 жыл бұрын
What was zero accused of?
@muadibadder3345
@muadibadder3345 4 жыл бұрын
Just like Cosby, never meet your heroes, high chance there will be disappointment. And effing agree, 20 years ago means Jack shiet if there's no accountability.
@blueberryblues5644
@blueberryblues5644 4 жыл бұрын
Mean Bob hilarious
@SpaceOmega-zz6vs
@SpaceOmega-zz6vs 4 жыл бұрын
How the heck does it not mean jack if the person changed within 20 years? I don't know if the person changed, though if he did change to the point of never doing anything wrong again, then that is something alone.
@muadibadder3345
@muadibadder3345 4 жыл бұрын
@@SpaceOmega-zz6vs " if he did change " you just said it yourself. The statement that he "changed" came from the man accused himself, so you can't be sure if the man really did change or that nothing else happened through the years after his first incident, unless the man was held accountable for that incident in the first place, like Max said. The man saying he changed since his first abuse years ago, without accountability or getting his comeuppance, just seems hollow, especially that it took 20 years for the incident too surface and for him to admit to it and apologize.
@SpaceOmega-zz6vs
@SpaceOmega-zz6vs 4 жыл бұрын
@@muadibadder3345 Sadly we really don't know, however that doesn't disprove the possibility, and I think it might be possible that we can maybe go further with investigating the person after exposure. I'm mainly saying if as maybe a scenario. I should also point out that being caught later on won't prove change by default either. It's very possible the reason why some people never admit it is due to fear of retribution which is what I consider partly responsible for why some people who still need therapy might not be open about it. Either way I feel that society should at least look further in the claim that someone has changed secretly instead of dismissing it JUST because the person was caught way later.
@TheFawse
@TheFawse 4 жыл бұрын
Is there anything else that has come out that this person did since these events 20 years ago? Just wondering
@derekfreiley7980
@derekfreiley7980 4 жыл бұрын
It sucks that all of this has happened, but it sounds like it was long overdue. I hope this makes EVO better and I hope this helps victims get the justice they deserve and I hope it helps people who still are waiting for their justice find the courage to help bring these monsters into the light. The FGC is bigger than EVO, it’s bigger than Mr.Wizard. We will endure. Thank you for being such a positive force in the FGC, Max. Take care man, shine on.
@titansloyalist4066
@titansloyalist4066 4 жыл бұрын
I WARNED YOU ABOUT ESPORTS BRO! - Mike Ross, probably
@Amutsal
@Amutsal 4 жыл бұрын
IT KEEPS HAPPENING
@thelaughingrouge
@thelaughingrouge 4 жыл бұрын
Everytime I turn on youtube lately it's like "Oh god what happened now?!" Controversy? Another one, another one, another one.
@B0K0691
@B0K0691 4 жыл бұрын
You should be happy that pedophiles and rapists were exposed instead
@2la84me
@2la84me 4 жыл бұрын
@@B0K0691 Yes we all should be happy that bad things happened in the first place, is that the message youre saying? You missed the point of "Everytime I open YT Im hit with not good things".
@theundeadgentleman4998
@theundeadgentleman4998 4 жыл бұрын
@@2la84me ...No, that's not what they're saying at all. It's good that this is coming out because the alternative is that is stays hidden and bad actors get to keep their status and position of power. Being bummed out because your favourite player/content creator/organiser is trash is fine and is to be expected when you've spent time being a fan of them or what they make, but to make that your main focus is selfish as all hell. You being "hit with the not good things" when you go on KZfaq is the least pressing part of what's going on right now.
@thelaughingrouge
@thelaughingrouge 4 жыл бұрын
Don't get it twisted, I'm happy that victims are starting to feel comfortable coming forward. I hope they all get justice. I just wish we didn't live in a world where it's like "Did you enjoy this thing? Well it's poisoned now." Can people just be good to each other for like five minutes?!
@TheKaijudist
@TheKaijudist 4 жыл бұрын
@@8Kazuja8 You hit the nail on the head.
@danielqv
@danielqv 4 жыл бұрын
I started going to Evo with my friends 2 years ago all the way from Costa Rica, and I'm so upset it all went to hell :(
@S3N_Gaming
@S3N_Gaming 4 жыл бұрын
This is honestly so depressing, this is the one year I was actually going to go to evo after seeing th insane lineup with mvc2 and then my heart got crushed because of covid AND NOW not even any evo online because of these horrible events. 2020 is really a year that people are tested and man is it difficult.
@thorsffe5712
@thorsffe5712 4 жыл бұрын
2020 please chill for a month deam
@Limegreenedragon
@Limegreenedragon 4 жыл бұрын
2020: not f*cking happening!
@orlandonieves652
@orlandonieves652 4 жыл бұрын
And we are only half through it
@rosesongoku6980
@rosesongoku6980 4 жыл бұрын
December 2020, Cthulhu awakens and begins his reign of terror and wicked insanity on Earth.
@Waffersforever
@Waffersforever 4 жыл бұрын
@@rosesongoku6980 That'd be more interesting than all the other shit going on! It's pretty sad for this year when I jokingly think that'd be a better alternative to everything else.
@Shiratto
@Shiratto 4 жыл бұрын
2020: CAN’T STOP WON’T STOP BAYBEEEEEEEEEEE! WOOO!
@MrXMysteriousX
@MrXMysteriousX 4 жыл бұрын
I'll always remember my small neck of the woods in the FGC,back when i was playing Street Fighter Online/X-men vs Streetfighter Online around 15 years ago (i think it was) Back in the days where we actually carved out our own Online community, hell, through our donations from our community its how we got a free online version of those games out to the fans back in a time where online fighting was a pipe dream. It was laggy beyond belief but, it was *ours* We were total bros, i had rivalries spanning the globe and 95% of the time after a match we celebrated, and in tourneys,win or lose, truly celebrated the winners, we celebrated how close our matches were most of the time. We lived and breathed it.If we weren't fighting we were on the forums for it, we were making banners and clans and all that good stuff. ....the good old days. I despair for the younger generation and right now, we are going through a dark period. Fighting games always suffered from elitism being toxic but.....this...... Its nearly enough for me, after all these years, to give up. I might watch the odd fight but....i think i'm done, i think i'll just be sticking to watching randoms and Max. I hope we can clear things up in the greater FGC i think we gotta pull together in solidarity against ehats happened and if we can't.....let it crumble to dust.
@rayJay64
@rayJay64 4 жыл бұрын
This year just keeps getting worse. Kobe and his daughter's death, other famous people dying, pandemic, the virus, protest, stores and beaches closing, and every event including evo online cancelled. This is a very upset yr for all of us frl.
@shushirakawa9867
@shushirakawa9867 4 жыл бұрын
This was going to be my first EVO. Coronavirus took away the opportunity to go in person, and this really hurts. I hope that the FGC comes back from this stronger than ever and that we get more opportunities to come together as a community that stands against these sorts of things. Thanks Max, for keeping it real and being upfront and honest about this stuff. Keep up the good work Dood.
@EspyMelly
@EspyMelly 4 жыл бұрын
2020 is the year that just keeps on giving isn't it
@Matanumi
@Matanumi 4 жыл бұрын
And we've only just hit the halfway point
@fakuirrazabal2326
@fakuirrazabal2326 4 жыл бұрын
It breaks my heart that a lot of people like Max was talking about... It was grinding all that time and work just to fulfill the pockets of those motherf*ckers... I´d love to go to EVO, but after this.... All at the FGC want changes and a new reset about this situation.... I hope someday I could go to USA and enjoy this with the people I love. And also meet Max If the destiny helps.
@k4yser
@k4yser 4 жыл бұрын
@Mean Bob not only is your comment inappropriate, it's also absolut nonsense. The numbers of Corona deaths is steadily in decline if anything, recent reinfections proof how harmless the virus is to people who aren't above 75 and morbidly obese.
@fakuirrazabal2326
@fakuirrazabal2326 4 жыл бұрын
@@k4yser I´m agree with you. We gotta be optimistic. I just want to keep believing on my dreams because where I live the FGC and all that comunity of gamers it doesn´t exist at all. I want to feel that experience
@angelito2336
@angelito2336 4 жыл бұрын
@Mean Bob Said the fat guy behind a computer screen or phone screen.🙄
@brionreichers1871
@brionreichers1871 4 жыл бұрын
Maximilian Dood fighting game tournament. Let’s go Max! Run it!
@Mr.Spongecake
@Mr.Spongecake 4 жыл бұрын
You say you've had a lot of people tell you that you're the reason that they got into fighting games. If it's OK, I'd like to be another. You got me into fighting games. I have depression and have been dealing with it for a long time (for a good amount of it not even REALIZING it was depression) so fighting games only made me mad. Not just mad, but downright irate, especially when I lost. Controllers got thrown and broken. Depression will do that to some people. I've been on antidepressants for a while and after watching some of your videos saw how much fun you had and was like "This looks hella hype. I wanna try it again." I've had a blast. I still lose more than I win but even if I lose I have a good time and instead of doing what I used to do I reflect on how I lost and what I could do to improve. I still suck but I have gotten better, even had my first rage-quitting opponent the other night in casuals in SFV :P. I guess my Juri's getting legit. What's happened to EVO does suck but I feel that what you've done for this community far outweighs what was taken away here by the offenders, even though what they did was horrific and inexcusable. My condolences and prayers go to the victims of abuse. If you can get my depressed ass into fighting games where I'm actually having fun then you're doing a helluva lotta good IMO. Keep being awesome and shine on.
@solemnsovereign758
@solemnsovereign758 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Max, I've been a fan of your channel for a few years now and I just wanted to say thank you for getting me interested in the FGC. I know the FGC isn't in the best place ATM, much like the rest of the world, but I believe we'll push through and the FGC will endure. On another note, my heart goes out to anyone who's been through this kinda shit, it destroys people, wrecks lives, and not many can deal after and no one should ever have to endure that, for any reason. You're a good man Max, just wanted to say that. P.S. Do you still have/make Benny plushies? And if so, how do I get one?
@QuiqueEnciso
@QuiqueEnciso 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for always keeping your feet on the ground. Even when you’re hyped, even when you’re down and fully emotional, the humanity could use you as an example. Someone who loves a certain thing, and wants to share the good things of your favorite thing, even when others are trying the opposite.
@joshualowe959
@joshualowe959 4 жыл бұрын
Hope everybody had a safe and blessed 4th of July
@DSTyN288
@DSTyN288 4 жыл бұрын
@maximilian_dood I just want to say I'm sorry. I know how much this family means to you and to find out this about someone you've known for years, turn out to be this way is devastating. It sucks to see that this turn of events seems that it has caused you to question your own decisions when regarding evo and the amount of work you've put in. I love what you do and thanks for being there for us. Because I know we are what's important to you. You are a positive role model in so many ways.
@themightylebeau
@themightylebeau 4 жыл бұрын
While I am traditionally a viewer of fighting game tourneys, this year I actually decided to participate in the MK11 online one, because why not. But I absolutely agree with cancelling the event this year. Great perspective from Max too, this is why I watch and sub to him, he 'gets' it 👍 shine on Doods, and look after each other
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