REALLY!? A SCAN TOOL To Do Rear BRAKES?! That’s Right. Modern Subaru Rear Brakes, The Right Way!

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Жыл бұрын

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@jparker1823
@jparker1823 Жыл бұрын
Update! I was able to do this with my $39 Autel AP200. Thanks for the video.
@chadfenstermaker2082
@chadfenstermaker2082 4 ай бұрын
On a 19 forester?
@jparker1823
@jparker1823 4 ай бұрын
@chadfenstermaker2082 18 Outback, but it would work on a 19 as well. AP200 officially supports upto 18, but I've used it to read and clear codes on my friend's 21 WRX, so it depends more on the module used than the year.
@swell07_
@swell07_ 4 ай бұрын
does it measure trans fluid temp too 🤔 thatd make it a killer subie tool
@jparker1823
@jparker1823 4 ай бұрын
@scottwell5701 Yes, but I've only used it on an 18 OB and 16 Crosstrek so far. Doesn't work with my 23 OB yet since the TCM is definitely different.
@bwbhammer
@bwbhammer 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! I have been looking for a used older shop scan tool updated through 2015 for my Legacy and the cheapest I could find was $250. I had no idea that there were dongle scanners that had so many functions available.
@williameident588
@williameident588 Жыл бұрын
Again, an excellent video.. so well done, clear, concise and I am a DIY on cars, a Marine Diesel professional. These are so informative and you never assume anything. Thanks .. keep them coming
@lloydames8752
@lloydames8752 Жыл бұрын
You do not need a scan tool. It just makes it easier than winding them in manually. Oem service manual will tell you both procedures.
@PabloVelarde1
@PabloVelarde1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is a grift. A scan tool is NOT NEEDED.
@lengxiong3247
@lengxiong3247 Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree. Total BS. But I like the fact Mr.Subaru shows us how to do it when your rich and you can afford a computer reader. Haha. Both way is legit.
@crabjoe
@crabjoe Жыл бұрын
You could also take the cover off the EPB and manually turn the EPB.
@MtnXfreeride
@MtnXfreeride Жыл бұрын
The manual says both ways work if you don't have a scanner. He went in on a video on my other channel saying I did it wrong with a smug attitude. Seems he has deleted his comments since.
@RocSteadyNY
@RocSteadyNY Жыл бұрын
I just did my wife’s 2020 Legacy today. Definitely don’t have a scan tool 😂. Also didn’t loose. The brake hose. Caliper will definitely sit on the spring.
@charleshuffman6982
@charleshuffman6982 Жыл бұрын
Great video - yet again. I'm glad I bought a base 2020 WRX manual that still has the mechanical parking brake!
@jetstar5224
@jetstar5224 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos, and as the owner of a used 2011 Outback, I appreciate all of your work done on your brother's 2011. That said, please take the following with a grain of salt: as a professional aircraft mechanic since I was 20 years old and a heavy automotive DIYer, now at the age of 69, I wince when I see your hands being used as a hammer. Years of doing the exact same thing as shown at 5:09 and 5:23 have caused the palms of my hands to be very painful under certain conditions; not so much when working with them, but afterwards. It doesn't help that I have psoriatic arthritis, but please take my unsolicited advice and either use a soft mallet or a long breaker bar to loosen fasteners like that. Keep up with the great videos!
@timparker382
@timparker382 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thanks for all your super informative videos! You do a great job!!
@sgtzsquad
@sgtzsquad Жыл бұрын
I built a harness with a switch and cigarette lighter plug which retracted the brake piston for me on a 2019 Outback and had no problems. You had to be aware of the polarity to insure the caliper completely retracted. The terminals had to be directly attached to the caliper harness pins, so you do NOT damage the circuitry. Made it easy for me. Appreciate the install demonstration of the lug studs.
@AR-lx3cx
@AR-lx3cx Жыл бұрын
Any chance you could provide step by step details ?
@kidwelldavid6136
@kidwelldavid6136 Жыл бұрын
That was something new. Thanks for the video on electronic breaks. This gave me some good insight and or information. 👍
@swell07_
@swell07_ 4 ай бұрын
please dont forget you only get 1 half hour break every 8 hours
@crazytexasgypsy
@crazytexasgypsy Жыл бұрын
Never even thought of this when I bought it, but boy am I glad my ‘21 is a 6mt with the old fashioned parking brake.
@onetimer100
@onetimer100 2 ай бұрын
As others have said, scan tool not required for Gen 5 Outback (not positive on a '19 Forester but likely the same). I've done 3 rear brake jobs on my '15 OB now and simply unplug the EPB power connection (not sure it's necessary) and spin the caliper in using common brake caliper retraction tool and the correct adaptor plate. Once it bottoms out push the caliper in a bit further with a c-clamp or similar to bottom it out. Once powered back on and I cycle the EPB it finds 'home' and worked perfectly every time.
@michaelweatherhead9470
@michaelweatherhead9470 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Robert nicely done 👍✅. Take care of yourself and family ❤️ and be Blessed ❤️❤️❤️.
@Waikatotek
@Waikatotek Жыл бұрын
I like the look at that scan tool. I just got a launch and it’s very busy how it’s laid out.
@iamdunker
@iamdunker Жыл бұрын
I did my breaks(front and rear) on my 19 sport without a scan tool with no issue. Just did it the normal way of pushing and screwing in the parking breaks and used a c clamp on my calipers. Easy Peasy. Im sure the scan tool does make it a tad easier tho.
@larryborkstrom3580
@larryborkstrom3580 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing this property install if rear pads on a modern car
@hallkbrdz
@hallkbrdz Жыл бұрын
I hadn't realized Subaru had gone down that VW ebrake rabbit hole. Shame. Good to know for our car-care ministry. We do a lot of brake work.
@Rickmakes
@Rickmakes Жыл бұрын
I think the Outback got it in 2009 and the Forester in 2014.
@arthurfernandes2402
@arthurfernandes2402 Жыл бұрын
@@Rickmakes Forester got it in 2019…
@briantii
@briantii Жыл бұрын
Everyone has gone that route. A few, like Mazda, have a sequence you can go through to retract them without a scan tool.
@AM-hr7rs
@AM-hr7rs Жыл бұрын
Still very easy to replace rear brakes without a scan tool fyi
@thedarkmage7373
@thedarkmage7373 11 ай бұрын
You can wind them back with a wind back tool
@iwfur25
@iwfur25 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if any other American makes/models do this, but my 2016 Cherokee has the rear brake service mode function in a menu in the infotainment screen. No scan tool required. It also doesn't need a scan tool to swap out TPMS sensors. Meanwhile our Subaru had me buying a (thankfully not too $) Autel tpms tool for DIYing winter tire swaps.
@endless2death
@endless2death 11 ай бұрын
I got around it by cracking the brake line open an pushing the pistons in .I didn't get an lights...figure I would share some knowledge with you seeing you helped many times over .Happy 4th of July 🍻
@oldguy2082
@oldguy2082 Жыл бұрын
Vehicle service in the future will continue to be increasing computerized; we've become to dependent upon the convenience features added each year to new model year vehicles. I have no problem with many of the "advances" in the computerization in the vehicle; all the air bags, cruise control, ABS brakes/anti-skid/electronic brake force control and GPS. But, do we really need 30 way power seats with auto heating or cooling; voice activated controls for radio/heater-ac/sunroof? My 2016 domestic vehicle has 26 separate circuits/relays and control modules and so I'm told 5 miles of wiring and the item that really gets me is that these days parts are increasing sold as assemblies, which of course, makes repairs more expensive. One of the two other issues is the cost of updating the service equipment to do repairs. My Snap On scan tool, last updated in 2018, costs $1000 per year to update, though if you subscribe to a plan, it's somewhat less expensive. Even for a dedicated DIY person, a good aftermarket scan tool to do many maintenance functions will cost about $1000 or so. Some models of Snap On scanners are above $12k+ and more; though there are some other brands of scan tools that work well for far less money. Don't blame your independent garage for expensive labour and parts prices; we have very expensive equipment that needs regular upgrades just to keep pace with changes in the industry; it's just how it is. And because it's increasing computerized, a scope now is no longer a luxury, its a must have. If you're a generalist shop, you'll need at least two scan tools to try and cover the wide range of vehicles you might see. I own three different scan tools...It's one of the reasons I've retired..
@TylerShawWx
@TylerShawWx Жыл бұрын
I took my wrx in to get my winter tires put on back in November. They broke a stud and then cross threaded another one. Then a brake caliper bracket bolt snapped when the broken studs were being replaced. Not a fun day.
@groosbro1
@groosbro1 Жыл бұрын
Thankfully my '20 WRX still has a manual hand brake. Subaru wheel studs are made out some silly soft steel. When a tire shop cross threaded one of mine I went to the dealer, a new stud and nut cost a whopping $8! I didn't have access to a tool, so I bought a few grade 8 flat washers because they are hardened and flatter than most, a nut that fit the stud, greased the washers and nut, and used those to install the new stud. Easy-peasy.
@ur_a_buS
@ur_a_buS Жыл бұрын
Remember when you could work on your car without the use of electronics.
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017
@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Жыл бұрын
I still have some cars that don't require electronics to work on them.
@fishguy911
@fishguy911 Жыл бұрын
Tesla, “Hold my beer”.
@nancyoffenhiser4916
@nancyoffenhiser4916 Жыл бұрын
Grateful for my 2013 Subaru Outback.
@6612770
@6612770 Жыл бұрын
Good grief, yeah... Is the 2017 Impreza also afflicted in this way??
@dongkapuyawn5107
@dongkapuyawn5107 Жыл бұрын
Sad and now the dealership are laughing😂
@DOBERSTAFFIE
@DOBERSTAFFIE 8 ай бұрын
Convinced me to stick with the base models. Great video.
@hale31
@hale31 Жыл бұрын
thumbs up for doing a brake job outside while raining
@LilFoxAK
@LilFoxAK Жыл бұрын
just came to say, Subaru rear calipers look really familiar to Honda ones, just saying for Honda you dont NEED the tool but makes it real easy if you do. got the amazon pneumatic caliper piston kit. no dtcs or anything. id be curious for other manufactures like subaru and euro cars.
@micro13989
@micro13989 7 ай бұрын
I have a 2019 Subaru Forester. I saw this video and was concerned i might need a scan tool. I used a 9 volt battery to wind the e brake motor in. So be mindful if it comes out the simply switch terminals(you are changing the polarity). There are videos on this. You will still need to push the brake in, I was able to do it by hand since the battery had retracted the internals. So to those who may be concerned about doing it with a 9-volt battery. It has been couple weeks now. Brakes work, I have tested the ebrake with the car motionless and tested it going low speeds 5-10 mph, it worked. So far so good, the brakes work good been run through regular driving highway to back roads good stopping power. I have adaptive cruise control, brakes still come on automatically as they should to stop. So the 9-volt battery worked.
@ssquirrel88
@ssquirrel88 Жыл бұрын
Wish I had a mechanic like Mr Subaru. We have a 2018 50th Anniversary Outback, love it. I would drive from WV to SC to have work done...correctly.
@balsqueak
@balsqueak Жыл бұрын
I know you’re “by the book” but you can get away with simply removing the EPB from the caliper, then retracing the piston without a scan tool. I’ve even heard of people cycling the motor by jumping a battery to it to get it to retract. But removing on Subarus is pretty easy. Definitely not what youre supposed to do, but its 2 bolts and an o-ring holding it on, just clean and grease when you put it back on after retracing the piston. No scantool needed.
@jackpalczynski7884
@jackpalczynski7884 9 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I did on our Legacy. Easy Peasy and I'd bet it's a lot faster than using a scan tool.
@Embarrassed4U
@Embarrassed4U 7 ай бұрын
I've seen it wound without removing the EPB as the gen 6 service manual says you can just wind them if you don't have a tool.
@Uncommonsensetoo
@Uncommonsensetoo 6 ай бұрын
Thanks. Good to know
@sliqindustries4782
@sliqindustries4782 Ай бұрын
yeah definitely just is mine today on my 22 wilderness no scan tool required
@mikey4004
@mikey4004 Жыл бұрын
I replaced the rear brakes without the scan tool. Everything seems to function correctly. What issues will I run into if I don't use the scan tool? All I did was rotate the piston in till they bottom out, then pushed piston in the rest of the way to allow propper pad placement. Buttoned everything back up and everything is functioning properly. E-brake and all. Please let me know what issues may come about by skipping the scan tool. I am assuming all it does is rotate the screw portion back so you don't need the rotating break tool. thank you
@nappyjim
@nappyjim Жыл бұрын
I did the same thing you did. I've replaced the rear brakes twice, about to do it for a third time in a couple weeks here and haven't had an issue yet. I also disconnected the negative terminal from the battery because I heard the break could possibly try to engage. Don't know if it's true or not, but I still disconnect the negative terminal and then like you use a rotating compression tool to push the piston back. 342k on my Outback 2015
@Embarrassed4U
@Embarrassed4U 7 ай бұрын
It won't try to engage. Winding is fine per gen 6 service manual.
@ExtremeRecluse
@ExtremeRecluse 27 күн бұрын
I never use emergency brakes in Detroit. All roads are flat.
@ExtremeRecluse
@ExtremeRecluse 27 күн бұрын
I just bought a 2020 Forester. The rear hubs need replacing.
@jimmylang8039
@jimmylang8039 Жыл бұрын
There's a cup tool with fingers that will back off those calipers and it's like $20 and goes on a ratchet. I do like the scan tool you have. I don't know if mine has that option?
@jeffreydeans7097
@jeffreydeans7097 Жыл бұрын
The Autel MaxiDiag 808 I picked up a few years ago for $100 has the EPB service function. Its a bit odd on the 808 since the EPB service function in the Service menu does not work on Subaru's, it will report a communication failure, but in ABS/VSS module diagnostics there is a special menu which does contain another EPB service feature that does work on Subaru's. I just used it today to replace a rear caliper that had a stuck piston that led to a hot rotor last night on my 2016 Outback.. On the Autel exiting service mode does exactly as your Topdon tool does, seven second count down to depress the brake pedal, followed by an ignition off an start.
@jeffreydeans7097
@jeffreydeans7097 Жыл бұрын
Wanted to add that even though the Subaru EPB system has parts made by Denso, it does not work like the Denso/Toyota system. On Toyota's with EPB you can pull up the EPB switch three times, then down three times, then hold it down and the EPB system will go into service mode, not so on a Subaru. Also on a Subaru the EPB is linked into the ABS/VSS system, it is not a standalone EPB system, if you pull the EPB handle while driving the ABS system will test the brakes and if they work it will not apply the EPB. Which probably explains why my 808 has the EPB service mode under the ABS/VSS module's "special menu".
@briancoverstone4042
@briancoverstone4042 11 ай бұрын
Is that the MD808? Wow, that thing is $250 now. But far less than the official scan tool. I'll buy one if you say it works, just so I have a nicer scan tool.
@briancoverstone4042
@briancoverstone4042 11 ай бұрын
I can confirm that the MD808 Pro does in fact work on the Subaru Ascent 2020. @jeffreydeans7097 is correct that in the EPB menu, don't select "Electronic Parking Brake", but instead pick the ABS/VSS module and then "special functions", and in there is yet another "Electronic Parking Brake" selection, and that one does work!
@banger881
@banger881 Жыл бұрын
From an experienced mechanic working on German cars up to 2022 I would tell you something easy and simple remove the parking brake motor two bolts alen head or start head remove the caliper rotate the spin on head in the back of caliper clock wise until it stops do not push hard by force when it stops push the caliper piston with your own hand inside you don't need any tools it's safer takes more time but you won't damage the parking brake motors that cost over $300 each
@goldendelicious143
@goldendelicious143 2 ай бұрын
Yes, this. I just replaced all pads/rotors on a 2020 outback with electronic e-brake. Disconnect ebrake power, remove from caliper, take the cover off, rotate the grooved end sticking out clock-wise, depress caliper (I used a rubber tipped wood vise). Extra time: 5 min per side, cost: 0$. When you activate the ebrake after putting it back together, you can hear the ebrake spinning the end back into the caliper to force it into the rotor and then release when you turn it off - that's all its doing.
@jimzitojr4928
@jimzitojr4928 2 ай бұрын
Just did my rear 2019 Ascent rear pads and just unplugged from the caliper and manually retracted the caliper and did not have any problems after I was done
@blueoct5591
@blueoct5591 8 ай бұрын
You definitely do not need a scan tool to retract the E parking brake. You also don’t need to use battery power and jumper wires that many videos show. All you have to do is use a pinned caliper tool to turn the piston back until it stops. Then you push the piston back into the caliper like any normal brake job. Mr. Subaru has a lot of great info. This video was not one of them.
@Uncommonsensetoo
@Uncommonsensetoo 6 ай бұрын
Good to know. I was disheartened by the need for such an expensive diagnostic tool just to do the breaks. I have always changed my own breaks in the past.
@omgitsrickatier
@omgitsrickatier 5 ай бұрын
Won't you need to retract it at first to be able to get the caliper off? Or can you still compress it with a screwdriver enough to take it off?
@chadfenstermaker2082
@chadfenstermaker2082 4 ай бұрын
I just tried it on my 19 forester by only turning in the caliper and it wouldn't open far enough to to fit over the rotor with the new pads
@johnnyramirez9082
@johnnyramirez9082 Жыл бұрын
That scanner reminds me of my Matco 4.0 will all trhe steps that I did on my Q5
@tresopple
@tresopple 9 ай бұрын
Just did my dads rear brakes on his 2017 legacy, all you gotta do is remove the the parking brake and compress the piston then put it back on. It does has some weird bolts though, think it was a 7mm Allen to get it off and then two 5mm Allens to open it. Don’t quote me on that lol. But yes def don’t need a scan tool
@rufushusky
@rufushusky 8 ай бұрын
Add me as another one that didn't use a scan tool, I disconnected the battery and unplugged the connector on the back of the caliper. Screwed back in nicely and everything booted back up just fine.
@jamesgray9727
@jamesgray9727 Жыл бұрын
Mr Subaru.... There are some comments on here, and I've seen elsewhere, that the digital diagnostic tool is not necessary to do this job, I that you can manually turn the caliper and eBrake back if you have the right tool to do so. Can you confirm one way or another??
@MoneyMarcMes
@MoneyMarcMes Жыл бұрын
Best video yet! Thank You!
@jmooney2880
@jmooney2880 Жыл бұрын
I ran into this on a 2018 f150 recently.
@Wrang15
@Wrang15 Жыл бұрын
Shocked no rust. My 2021 OB 11k its all surface rusted over. Weekly washing and fluid fim does not stop it in PA.
@jerisa2k
@jerisa2k 10 ай бұрын
Hi Mr.Subaru, just want to know if the jack you used is on the rear differential to lift both rear wheels up to put jack stands on the pinch weld jack points?
@patriot3431
@patriot3431 7 ай бұрын
You can use the bolt that holds down the brake line to dislodge the rust seal with the rotor if it doesn’t come off.
@Blueskull390
@Blueskull390 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any info on the new electronic brake boosters? Do you to put in service mode to do front brakes now also?
@supernova1976
@supernova1976 Жыл бұрын
This brings up a question, does a Subaru forester 2014 need any update by dealer ? I bought my forester brand new in another country and moved out within few months now I have been driving it 90000 km, without ever visiting a dealer , usually do my own maintenance according to the book.
@ricpmateo
@ricpmateo Жыл бұрын
Hi there, whats the cheaper scanner you can buy and still function to do this job. My mechanic has a snap on, can he upgrade it to have this software for Subaru? Thanks for your time and the video
@necessaryJustice_4all
@necessaryJustice_4all 8 ай бұрын
Hey Mr. Ru. Question. Just had my rear brake pads replaced. Still squeaking. Mechanic offered rotors and pads for $300, but declined bc he said the rotors looked fine (no grooves, etc). Seems to be an honest mechanic. He also mentioned that he couldn’t promise the squeaking would stop by only replacing the pads. 🤔 I still declined. My thoughts were, if the rotors look to be good, why replace them? Anyhow. That’s my situation. Could the rotors be the issue? Or…possibly the quality of the pads they put on? Want what’s best for my Subaru. 2018 3.6 Outback touring. 🙏🏻
@vr6muppet
@vr6muppet Жыл бұрын
Just picked up a 2020 Outback. I'm assuming this will be the same procedure. Any thoughts on the launch x431 CRP919e?
@iluvdrt8776
@iluvdrt8776 4 ай бұрын
Just did brakes on a 2022 OB Wilderness. 100% DO NOT need a scan tool. Unplug motors, screw in piston. Easy day. No codes, no service lights, just a regular brake job
@3seriesgarage
@3seriesgarage Жыл бұрын
Hey mr subi!! Quick question! Does the TOPDON Arti Diag Pro bidirectional scan tool do this aswell! Really just wondering if it winds back electronic brake calipers!? Thanks much
@joshfuentes8788
@joshfuentes8788 Жыл бұрын
Starting what year on an Outback do you need a scan tool for those electronic rear brake job?
@AlexP-yb7gh
@AlexP-yb7gh Жыл бұрын
Is there a list of what tools you used? I would like to purchase them I have a Subaru Ascent and I'm sure it's not to different unless there's something unique about the Ascent
@ernestodonato4456
@ernestodonato4456 Жыл бұрын
Mr subaru. I have a question out of this subject. Does an 05 legacy wagon has the factory auto start feature on it. I am the 5 owner and was wondering if can get an oem remote. Will it work if programed?
@amoni1959
@amoni1959 Жыл бұрын
Would hitting the stud out like that damage the wheel bearing?
@jameslewis1175
@jameslewis1175 Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's one of my interview questions (so you have used the scan tool to retract rear calipers?) if the prospective GST tells me he does brakes too.
@STROBdotNET
@STROBdotNET 20 күн бұрын
What about greasse and silicon lubrification on break pads ears and back? Also there is no pins to lube anymore?
@CoolPilot
@CoolPilot Жыл бұрын
Well I guess I'll keep my '21 Crosstrek with the manual hand brake so I can keep doing brake jobs myself.
@TheLadeef
@TheLadeef 9 ай бұрын
just did this, a two prong bike tool to wind the piston in, then c clamp to push it the rest of the way once it bottoms out.
@doghutson
@doghutson Жыл бұрын
Question: Replacing rear rotors and pad on 2015 Subaru. Does NOT electronic park break. Can I replace both and then pump the brake pedal, or must I do it after each wheel is done?
@t9056
@t9056 9 ай бұрын
the hyper tough ht200 or autel ap200 scan tool for 50$ is able to do this..also good for sas...for ppl who wanna do there own stuff w.o expensive scan tool
@4honor
@4honor Жыл бұрын
Man, I am glad my BRZ is still manual hand brake. But now I am kinda wanting to avoid e-parking brake cars...
@AM-hr7rs
@AM-hr7rs Жыл бұрын
Can be replaced without a scan tool FYI look it up
@davidevans8826
@davidevans8826 8 ай бұрын
You can disconnect the electrical connecter to the electronic retracting system and just add 12 V. You'll see one way it'll work one way it won't and it will retract the calliper pistons by simply doing that you do not need the big scan tool. I've done this I'm almost every brand.
@tudor3874
@tudor3874 10 ай бұрын
Hello. I have one question. I didnt see you grease the guide pins. Is there a reason for that because i know that they need to be greased with silicone grease. Thank you.
@PH-md8xp
@PH-md8xp 11 ай бұрын
There are ways to retract the electronic parking brake without the scan tool. 1) Use a 9v battery and apply it to the input terminals of the EPB, reverse the polarity to wind it in or out. 2) Remove the back of the EPB and use a ratchet to wind back the piston that pushes the brake pads onto the rotor. I’ve done both methods with no problems. The battery method is less invasive and therefore preferable.
@shanz3n5
@shanz3n5 9 ай бұрын
can you show pics or vid on battery method?
@AFatherToTheFatherless
@AFatherToTheFatherless 8 ай бұрын
And then you call a real mechanic and tell him how you ruined a $300 caliper
@billwhite5853
@billwhite5853 3 ай бұрын
@@AFatherToTheFatherless A lot of scan tools in the $300 price range have bidirectional and service resets. You also can use other methods other than scan tools to perform certain resets, as the scan tool is not actually performing the reset, but rather commanding the control module to perform the reset. There have been safe work arounds for years for various electronic equipment. ...just more of a pain to have to research, rather than having a scan tool with the command stored in memory
@andyincalimoto843
@andyincalimoto843 Жыл бұрын
SO MUCH FOR RIGHT TO REPAIR. When it comes to my motorcycles and cars, I try to keep it as simple as possible. meaning ABS and traction control. that is it
@MatthewFiereck
@MatthewFiereck Жыл бұрын
I think your missing the point of right to repair. The tools are available for purchase so yes you are able to do the work yourself. By your argument a 1990 Buick is also not right to repair because you need to buy a wrench or 2 in order to do the work. Yes you now need an additional tool that you wouldn't have needed in the past but so long as that tool is available the right to repair is still maintained. The issue of right to repair was started because companies like John Deere would roll out a tractor with all kinds of new electronics and not release the tools needed to support even basic repairs that normally could be completed in minutes in the field. You now need to wait for a certified JD service tech to come fix it instead because you cannot buy the tools needed.
@andyincalimoto843
@andyincalimoto843 Жыл бұрын
@@MatthewFiereck you’re not wrong I’m just saying I feel any new layer of technology that limits the ability for a DIYer with limited resources is no different to pay to play. You either fork out $1000 for a new tool or $1000 for someone else to do. Granted this is something you have to factor in when purchasing your vehicle. But features like electronic parking brake is not a necessity to the function of the car, just a new reason to discourage people from doing it themselves so they take it into the dealership to pay them to do it. Motorcycle companies are loading their bikes with electronics that is also a bit overkill. We are no longer needing technicians but electrical engineers to work on our vehicles
@Dannyaudio69
@Dannyaudio69 Жыл бұрын
You didn't put the topdon In your link I would like to purchase that is it on Amazon?
@aleksandartasic7652
@aleksandartasic7652 6 ай бұрын
I know it’s been a while since you put this video out. Was bleeding of brakes required and done, did I miss that somewhere in here? Thanks.
@donmorgan1751
@donmorgan1751 7 ай бұрын
Do you need to do this if you're working on the front brakes? I know when I compress the Piston I need to open the bleeder on the caliper not force stuff back through the ABS
@ur_a_buS
@ur_a_buS Жыл бұрын
Soon we'll need a scan tool to replace studs.
@javier.villatoro
@javier.villatoro Жыл бұрын
You need a scan tool to replace a battery in VW.
@lloydames8752
@lloydames8752 Жыл бұрын
@@javier.villatoro All new cars need to have new battery set with scan tool. Smart charging systems in todays cars.
@Robalo844
@Robalo844 6 ай бұрын
Well for the same purpose and the same vehicle I just got theAutel Mx900ts and after market brake parts,my car has over 150K miles with original parts 😅
@JPs-Channel
@JPs-Channel 22 күн бұрын
Do you need new rotors when it's the 1st rear brake job? (2020 Outback) Thanks
@rayzorjay7331
@rayzorjay7331 3 ай бұрын
Just did Brakes on a 2017 Outback... I used a rotor rewind pin tool on the rear pistons and did not use a scanning tool. We tested the brakes and e-brake after the change and all seemed to be working well with no codes... Anything I should keep a look out for?
@nicktonge7604
@nicktonge7604 7 ай бұрын
If you just want to take the pads out to clean them up, do you need to do any other adjustements or preps? Surely you can just take out the pads and put them back in...?
@bkdv
@bkdv Жыл бұрын
So you're saying whenever I need to do my brakes to buy a bidirectional scan tool on Amazon credit and return it when I'm done?
@hl9979
@hl9979 10 ай бұрын
Hello, is there a cheaper scanner tool you can recommend for my 2019 wrx eyesight?
@GeorgeJFW
@GeorgeJFW Жыл бұрын
I swear there is a way to enable brake service mode with out a scan tool similar to how to enable coolant purge mode.
@rafranks1410
@rafranks1410 Жыл бұрын
I watched your video about rear pads on our ‘16 Legacy. I got the rewinding tool, followed your example, and successfully installed the new pads. Everything works great, including the parking brake and the hill-holder. But I’m curious, when did the scan tool become a thing? Now I’m full of doubt and self-loathing… Thanks for the excellent tutorials!
@KenEberts
@KenEberts Жыл бұрын
You can safely continue to use your wind back tool on your 2016, there is no requirement to use brake maintenance mode on any Gen 6 Legacy, the Subaru FSM explicitly says so.
@rafranks1410
@rafranks1410 Жыл бұрын
@@KenEberts thanks!
@ForgottenMotoring
@ForgottenMotoring Жыл бұрын
I never thought to see if there was a name for the coating on brake rotors 🤔
@gboy2513
@gboy2513 Жыл бұрын
What is oil maintenance mode? What am I missing not having a scan tool???
@staleyexplores
@staleyexplores 2 ай бұрын
Same procedure for 13 Subaru legacy with rear electric parking brake? Need the computer?
@TheNationalTrails
@TheNationalTrails Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to place vehicle in Neutral with key on? Find it hard to believe that the E-Parking Brake would be applied.
@kneepopper94
@kneepopper94 Жыл бұрын
Where can i get that small cube? I want to diy the brakes on my 2020 forester
@DZ-gl7no
@DZ-gl7no 2 ай бұрын
Do you ever have the rotors resurfaced or do you always replace with new?
@glengarey9789
@glengarey9789 11 ай бұрын
I replaced rear pads on my wife's 19 forester without a scan tool. The only difference is,you have to manually turn back caliper piston with special(inexpensive) tool.
@brandyns4930
@brandyns4930 9 ай бұрын
I've done rear pads twice on my 2020 Ascent with no scan tool using a caliper twisting tool from Amazon.
@fernandor887
@fernandor887 7 ай бұрын
Scan tool )Does this apply for subaru ascend. also is it only for the rear brakes
@johnjackson1820
@johnjackson1820 2 ай бұрын
My mechanic used the scan tool to get it in brake maintenance mode freed up the calipers but I believe he used a clamp to push them back in now the car can't come out of brake maintenance mode. The other guy is having the same issue
@michaelradford3162
@michaelradford3162 Жыл бұрын
I noticed you didn't lubricate anything. Is that not needed? I'm asking because I'll be doing rear brakes soon. Great quality video!
@dalecesafsky4506
@dalecesafsky4506 8 ай бұрын
Dean and lube for a proper job.
@ddanci1973
@ddanci1973 Жыл бұрын
@MrSubaru1387 Can you recommend a scan tool that supports bi-directional control for a 2007 Subaru Legacy? I'll only use it for my own car, so budget options are preferred. And I know that the 2007 doesn't have electric handbrake or anything else that really requires bi-directional control, but being able to test injectors, ignition coils, fans etc. at will is appealing.
@t9056
@t9056 9 ай бұрын
hyper tough ht200 or autel ap200 look it up 50$
@RoverTheDog1
@RoverTheDog1 6 ай бұрын
This is probably a really dumb question, but why couldn't I just retract the parking brake before i start working on it? I assume this does not retract it as much as necessary to actually remove the caliper or is there a different reason?
@BrentBassett76
@BrentBassett76 4 ай бұрын
What is the cheapest scan tool i can get that will put my OB into break maintenance mode?
@don_moody
@don_moody 5 ай бұрын
No scan tool is needed to do this job. I just did it today on our Outback with electric parking brakes on the rear. Amazon sells a $30 tool kit which allows you to manually retract the electric brake piston. And the same kit also makes it easy to push in the hydraulic brake piston.
@alistairhadden5356
@alistairhadden5356 8 ай бұрын
I thought most epb calipers, you could push the piston back in, just like front calipers.
@jimmyjones8311
@jimmyjones8311 6 ай бұрын
Not saying the tire guys aren’t morons. But I’ve spent many years working for a national tire chain. Most or the time someone “cross threads” a lug nut it’s not really cross threaded. What happens is they over tighten and essentially weld the nut to the stud. When you only need 80# to torque a nut but hit it with an 800 foot pound impact the nut is the weak link.
@brandonpetrie7139
@brandonpetrie7139 Жыл бұрын
What shop towels are you using?
@johnpflug1567
@johnpflug1567 Жыл бұрын
My wife's 2017 Outback has the electronic parking brake, had the dealer take care of them; didn't trust any local repair shop to do it correctly, but if I lived in SC, it would have been you! I still do the front brakes myself. BTW, the front pads lasted over 80k (mostly highway) miles; the rear only around 55k. Apparently the rear pads have less surface area than the older design. Heard that because of the electronic parking brake design, the pads were reduced in size; there wasn't enough physical space. What is your opinion on this? Thanks for a great Subaru channel! I have learned so much from you. BTW, our Subie currently has 97k miles, mostly trouble free. Much better than the previous '06 Outback; I managed to eke out 149k miles before trading it in.
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 Жыл бұрын
The rear pads are actually larger in surface area now than previous models.
@rollingacresfarmstead206
@rollingacresfarmstead206 Жыл бұрын
my 16 also has the E-parking brake
@johnpflug1567
@johnpflug1567 Жыл бұрын
@@MrSubaru1387 So why do you think this occurred? BTW, we rarely engage the parking brake. Should it be used occasionally so that it will be less likely to freeze up? We live in the Northeast, in Queens NY. Thanks
@HouseCallAutoRepair
@HouseCallAutoRepair Жыл бұрын
Electronic Parking Brake Calipers are the very reason I bought my ZurichPro. Don't you just love where all this technology going, as for making things even more difficult for the DIYer?
@MrZhefish
@MrZhefish 11 ай бұрын
zurich, like the swiss town, zu-rich which means literately in swiss german: too rich.
@timbrown9731
@timbrown9731 Жыл бұрын
Hmm the spring must be for a antirattle ?
@spelunkerd
@spelunkerd Жыл бұрын
At the beginning I noticed you had a long pocket screwdriver placed in the park interlock override port on the middle console. Was that related to the brake job or was that a separate repair for some other problem?
@MrSubaru1387
@MrSubaru1387 Жыл бұрын
Just makes it easier to jack up a Subaru if it’s in neutral. Lol
@6612770
@6612770 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering exactly the same thing 🙂
@wildmanofthewynooch7028
@wildmanofthewynooch7028 11 ай бұрын
Don’t you need to bleed the brakes? And what is with the screw driver in the center console?
@Naattik
@Naattik 7 ай бұрын
For a second I thought I can’t buy this and won’t be able to do the brakes myself… reading the comments reassured me. Mr Subaru, we watch your vids for good content but you should also show us less expensive options. If I have the money to buy a $800 scan tool, I won’t be attempting to do the brakes myself.
@MLorenzo-nj7lx
@MLorenzo-nj7lx 9 ай бұрын
Will this apply to a 2019 ascent too?
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