Bakari Sellers and Coleman Hughes on Police Accountability | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

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3 жыл бұрын

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"My Vanishing Country" author Bakari Sellers and "Conversations with Coleman" podcast host Coleman Hughes join Bill to discuss police accountability in the wake of Breonna Taylor's killing.
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@NAJXVI
@NAJXVI 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a liberal and love this show but I got to say that the audience just clapping every time they hear an argument like, "cop bad" is really annoying and brain dead.
@jamesohollearn7005
@jamesohollearn7005 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@ayy__lmao901
@ayy__lmao901 3 жыл бұрын
Bakari is like "i don't care what you say if it doesn't fit my narrative then I don't care, btw buy my new book
@aaronallen6863
@aaronallen6863 3 жыл бұрын
They sound like trained seals
@oceania2385
@oceania2385 3 жыл бұрын
Same here... it's just reflexive. I'm from Seattle we just defunded our police by 100 officers and completely disbanded our homeless relocation team. We have ZERO nada nothing zilch to replace them. We are legislating from a bumper sticker in the pacific Northwest. This is what's coming to your neighborhood. Former democrat here.
@CreativeSource1
@CreativeSource1 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@RealSteveEyes
@RealSteveEyes 3 жыл бұрын
This was a horrible setting for a debate. Get rid of the audience immediately.
@peteconroy1348
@peteconroy1348 3 жыл бұрын
'look how hard i can clap!'
@aaronbarlow4376
@aaronbarlow4376 3 жыл бұрын
@@peteconroy1348 Look how hard I can clap at leftist BLM drivel.
@Bluesbreaker-uf8ti
@Bluesbreaker-uf8ti 3 жыл бұрын
The clapping sucks, absolutely.
@42tribes
@42tribes 3 жыл бұрын
It was also a horrible lineup. You have a guy whose nickname is Bakari Sellout debating a guy who identifies as Puerto Rican yet argues against reparations for African Americans. A sellout vs an agent saboteur.
@WilliamTeller
@WilliamTeller 3 жыл бұрын
@#1 tricycle mechanic gave them the finger! It was marvelous
@mattv8434
@mattv8434 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman Hughes is one of the most brilliant young minds of our time, and neither of these guys let him get a full thought out. Highly recommend his podcast "Conversations with Coleman".
@mattv8434
@mattv8434 3 жыл бұрын
@paul hester Haha! That's right...rather than determining his own sense of self and place in the world, Coleman should rely on Biden's monolithic, dementia-laden approach to race and how to act, think, behave!!
@mattv8434
@mattv8434 3 жыл бұрын
@paul hester I can't explain it, but I heard about that and think it was in 2017, which would have put him at 20 years old. I speculate he was trying to be edgy and artistic, and it wasn't good. That said, I don't think all decisions made at 20 should determine our life path forever. One of the challenges I see with cancel culture is that it doesn't allow for growth, evolution, and development...which are all part of the human experience. We mess up sometimes and do stupid things as humans. The goal is to learn and grow...which I think he's done.
@jasonharris996
@jasonharris996 3 жыл бұрын
@paul hester why is it on Matt to explain that, especially since it has no relevance whatsoever to the commentary in the vid?
@jasonharris996
@jasonharris996 3 жыл бұрын
@paul hester can you answer the question?
@just_another32
@just_another32 3 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend his interview on Unherd
@bignoknow
@bignoknow 2 жыл бұрын
Coleman is just so composed, rational, and empathetic at the same time.
@dnate697
@dnate697 2 жыл бұрын
Because Coleman is an experienced Buck Dancer LOL!
@edwinamendelssohn5129
@edwinamendelssohn5129 2 жыл бұрын
@@dnate697 what an asinine comment. Anyone that questions your lockstep narratives is derided. Most of you known nothing but being reactive. He's a student of life. He didn't have a side or an agenda. He's after truth and reality.
@kuumbafranklacy490
@kuumbafranklacy490 Жыл бұрын
Noah Thomas......INTERESTING. because you just explained his great jazz trombone playing
@mckenzie.latham91
@mckenzie.latham91 Жыл бұрын
Coleman's entire argument on the Tayor case loses all ground when you know that they fired the one cop for discharging his gun into the neighbors household So he got fired and or held accountable for shooting into the wrong house, but the cops who shot the wrong women over 20 times were totally doing it by the book? Bullshit! So apparently despite the fact that the cops had the wrong house, were looking for the wrong guy who already was in custody at the time and literally were caught trying to falsify evince and or hiding evidence from the trial to the point even the grand jury members are demanding all facts be made public becasue the attorney general lied about the case... we need to understand they were justified in firing back after being shot t for trying to break into an innocent persons house? funny, cause if i accidentally kill someone on the job and or in real life, i can be fired from my job and or possibly brought up on manslaughter charges if its proven i screwed up and or acted wrongly but the cops who were caught lying about no body cam evidence, who were caught trying to force breanna’s boyfriend to admit she was some kind of criminal/drug kingpin in order for him to be let go, just get to shrug their shoulders and walk away?
@SouthSideBobert612
@SouthSideBobert612 3 жыл бұрын
We're all in agreement the Clapping was annoying as hell.
@Dominicanbulk
@Dominicanbulk 3 жыл бұрын
Very
@WittyUsernamehere
@WittyUsernamehere 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@SupremeInvigilator
@SupremeInvigilator 2 жыл бұрын
CLAP CLAP CLAP
@prankgirl9112
@prankgirl9112 Ай бұрын
Yes! Finally something the left and right can agree on.
@as4735
@as4735 3 жыл бұрын
The clapping has to go. Its really distracting and stupid.
@devilmancrybaby2101
@devilmancrybaby2101 3 жыл бұрын
Bro I swear I was laughing so hard I fell down each time the audience clapped for absolutely no reason😂😂💀
@LateNightRewrites
@LateNightRewrites 2 ай бұрын
**claps vigorously**
@geneanthony3421
@geneanthony3421 3 жыл бұрын
The audience shouldn't exist. They add almost nothing most of the time in a setting like this.
@JS-dt1tn
@JS-dt1tn 3 ай бұрын
It tells the viewer at home what to think.
@jonesjack6088
@jonesjack6088 3 жыл бұрын
Hitchens was right that audience will applaud anything.
@bjkarana
@bjkarana 2 жыл бұрын
Oh Hitch.
@BodyOpt
@BodyOpt 2 жыл бұрын
HAHA yeah I remember that, I need to find that footage again. You just know the audience is mostly a bunch of white liberals, who want to pick the side that fits the current narrative. They'd clap the guy for just saying his own name.
@BodyOpt
@BodyOpt 2 жыл бұрын
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@keithoyoung34
@keithoyoung34 2 жыл бұрын
The Hitch slap.I so miss it.
@msgtblbj
@msgtblbj 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman Hughes: I just want to see the police improve. Audience: *silence (Literally 5 seconds later) Bakari Sellers: I just want better police. Audience: *Roars
@mckenzie.latham91
@mckenzie.latham91 3 жыл бұрын
They are not going to improve though, that’ the point, the brutality and thuggishness is ingrained that’s why the courts have literally supported police departments decisions to not hire smart people to be cops....
@Lastjustice
@Lastjustice 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a product or staff improve from lack of funding. Like they think if they cut funding all the bad cops will only lose their jobs as a a result of it. Demanding reform and defunding are two totally different endgames.
@zvipatent
@zvipatent 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lastjustice Good point. The bad cops will stay because it's a job they can easily get. Good cops, like good teachers who were underpaid when I was young, will leave.
@kyleg8098
@kyleg8098 3 жыл бұрын
@@mckenzie.latham91 so go be a cop....and fix it
@mckenzie.latham91
@mckenzie.latham91 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lastjustice Funny, cause i have seen plenty of products and staff that suffered from having too much funding without diverting it to the other necessary and or integral areas to make the whole thing function. and that’s the majority of police budgets... that’s also why we have to resort to having police do “wellness checks” on mentally ill and or vulnerable people and why they keep ending up shooting those very same people cause we’re expecting 12th grade high school drop outs who are trigger happy morons and poorly trained to be able to handle and or interact with sick, mentally ill and or vulnerable people without killing them...rather than maybe diverting funds so that mental health professionals connected to the department can interact with them instead etc.
@TheOriginalman7
@TheOriginalman7 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman wipes the floor with this brother. Hughes may not elicit the same response from the peanut gallery but he seemingly appears much more effective and persuasive. The “all cops are bad and racist and are targeting blacks” trope will eventually lose its impact when things like analytics and body cams become even more mainstream.
@safib9626
@safib9626 Жыл бұрын
But they do target more BLK folk, look at the people killed over a traffic stop.
@deborahminter6231
@deborahminter6231 Жыл бұрын
Nobody wiped the ground with anybody, they both had an intelligent discussion in spite of disagreeing.
@johnwinn4552
@johnwinn4552 Жыл бұрын
@Deborah Minter intelligent?? Sellars was not only wrong with his portrayal of the facts of several famous cases, but he was wrong about facts that were known at the time of this taping. His description of the Breanna Taylor case was especially egregious. Anyone with any amount of self reflection and objectivity needs to take take 2 minutes of their life and dedicated to the actual facts of that case, then juxtapose it with what Bakari Sellers said on the video. If you do that in an honest way, the only two conclusions you can come to are 1. He is purposefully ignorant Or 2. He is a race grifter of the highest order. The audience's reaction to everything he said is all the evidence you need for why these people keep getting away with this nonsense.
@ronaldlee6115
@ronaldlee6115 Ай бұрын
When the Applause light light ups your supposed to clap. Been there done that.
@person_108
@person_108 2 жыл бұрын
Coleman Hughes!!! A shining hope for the future of the country. I've learned so much from him in subject matter as well as maintaining composure and humility when exchanging ideas with people with different views.
@JRJMC
@JRJMC 3 жыл бұрын
This show would be so much better without an audience.
@thebillryan
@thebillryan 3 жыл бұрын
So that's your big take away from the discussion. No surprise that American education is in rapid decline. Engage your brain and stop with the irrelevant commentary.
@JRJMC
@JRJMC 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebillryan that seems to be a pretty consistent take away throughout the comments. Why does that upset you?
@TheUsername217
@TheUsername217 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. silence is golden
@genericusername8337
@genericusername8337 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebillryan It's a non-trivial thing, though. It's sort of insulting the intelligence of the watcher, telling them what to like, not to mention steering away from just objective conversation, towards sensationalized politics. The clapping is likely ordered as well, these kinds of shows often have screens in the audience.
@thebillryan
@thebillryan 3 жыл бұрын
@@genericusername8337 It's simple.Ignore it. You have self agency. Listen to what's been said. The number of comments about the audience reveals to me that their not focused on what matters.
@biodrummindieseler
@biodrummindieseler 3 жыл бұрын
What's with that audience? Stop clapping and just listen.
@Bushrt01
@Bushrt01 3 жыл бұрын
Bro the clapping was driving me crazy.
@johnfd0210
@johnfd0210 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bushrt01 I really wanted to watch this segment, but gave up after 3 minutes; couldn't take the clapping after every other sentence.
@TheDrewish
@TheDrewish 3 жыл бұрын
The audience was virtue signaling after the guy who wants to defund the police spoke. Before he even made his point he was interrupted by applause. Virtue signaling at its finest.
@alexten9961
@alexten9961 3 жыл бұрын
The audience is mentally programmed to clap when they hear the word "racism".
@jismjacket
@jismjacket 3 жыл бұрын
Seals like to clap
@c.m.8860
@c.m.8860 3 жыл бұрын
Have Coleman on again. His voice needs to be heard
@Billy.Buntin
@Billy.Buntin 3 жыл бұрын
I'm frustrated when I watch this conversation. It does not feel like a genuine exchange between intelligent men, trying to arrive at solutions. @5:11 Bakari brings up the two pop culture cases of white privilege/soft treatment by police, Dylan Roof and Kyle Rittenhouse. Coleman reminds him that these are flashy headline cases, not sociological arguments. "Those are not representative cases", he says ... Bakari replies "but did they not happen?" ?? ... The crowd cheers. ??? That is not an acceptable answer in a SERIOUS conversation about the complex racial and socio-political factors at play during violent police encounters, in the US. For some reason, Bakari must insist that the problem of policing in America is not just a problem of policing ... it's a problem that is unique and particular and targeted to harm the black community, in a special way. @3:46 Coleman brings up one of the thousands of white victims of police violence. He did so to show the diversity and range of the cruelty of America's policing history. He doesn't negate race as an important factor, but says it's clearly deeper than race. Coleman's point is not only reasonable, it's supported by the data. It also means that we can include brothers and sisters of all races to the table to discuss, and protest and organize a better way of policing and protecting citizens. It also means we can talk broadly about the issues and pathologies that plague communities that are deprived of resources. These communities exist around the country and the beleaguered, neglected populations are not exclusively black. We can admit all of this, and still aim restructure our society in a justice minded, meaningful way. It's stunning that Bakari won't take the opportunity to recognize these truths, agree on their common ground, broaden the discussion, and still be an advocate for all the same ideals.
@enChristos23
@enChristos23 3 жыл бұрын
Bakari does not benefit (politically, and therefore financially) to agree with Coleman. It's obvious from the clueless crowd's reaction, that is precisely what Bakari finds beneficial. The more they buy his nonsense, the more he peddles it.
@darriennemartin4083
@darriennemartin4083 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. He makes his argument seem disingenuous and bolsters those with bloated narratives that just post on social media and do nothing for active change
@geofherb1
@geofherb1 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly this. If the issue with police brutality was framed in a way that included how the police treat all lower class people it would have much broader political support. I'm sure there are poor communities across the country and across racial backgrounds that could come together to demand reform. The way it is framed now hurts its own cause.
@blaynecarver2236
@blaynecarver2236 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful points.
@reneeboswellpoetry1480
@reneeboswellpoetry1480 3 жыл бұрын
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@ssokol91
@ssokol91 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman Hughes should get more airtime outside of his podcast. His intellect and ability to present facts and ideas need to be heard by many.
@bluepearl_22
@bluepearl_22 3 жыл бұрын
He'll never get the amount of airtime he deserves on shows like this or mainstream media in general cause his viewpoints don't fit the mainstream narrative.
@jusliving7977
@jusliving7977 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluepearl_22 because he's a dang co signing, apologist for bigots.
@oaktowngrrl6809
@oaktowngrrl6809 3 жыл бұрын
@@jusliving7977 Hughes is after the truth--and unlike so many, not just pleasing the populist, self-righteous, ego massaging, limited perspective fellow Americans.
@brianburnett118
@brianburnett118 2 жыл бұрын
Ole Coleman found a revenue stream parroting his masa narrative
@giantsr1eva
@giantsr1eva 2 жыл бұрын
@@bluepearl_22 Coleman Hughes shares the pro cop, pro Israel anti Muslim agenda that is pushed by the mainstream media. You don’t get to appear on Bill Mahers show unless you’re part of the establishment.
@Dialogos1989
@Dialogos1989 3 жыл бұрын
The audience so annoying here
@maskedmarvyl4774
@maskedmarvyl4774 3 жыл бұрын
Clap-clap-clap-clap-clap! Oh, why do you say that? Clap-clap-clap-clap-clap!
@vileguile4
@vileguile4 3 жыл бұрын
Bill mentions it "Are we reacting with data and facts and reality to the police problem or are we just reacting?" People start clapping before they even finishes their sentences and their points.
@Gcarse
@Gcarse 3 жыл бұрын
Every time Bakari Sellers speaks - applause. Every time Coleman Hughes speaks - silence.
@Sloimer
@Sloimer 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gcarse And every time I take a dump no applause either. Coincidence?
@carlosivandegodoy
@carlosivandegodoy 3 жыл бұрын
It’s always been annoying 😎
@agginswaggin
@agginswaggin 3 жыл бұрын
coleman hughes is by far the most intelligent one here
@britbloc123
@britbloc123 3 жыл бұрын
Bill's audience are like clapping seals. Worse than the audience on the view. Smh.
@CreativeSource1
@CreativeSource1 3 жыл бұрын
Eww that’s a toss up lol
@ronaldlee6115
@ronaldlee6115 Ай бұрын
Same Applause light that lights up every time Whoopie or Hostins speaks. Another Shit Show spinning lies and half truths!
@twoshedsjohnson8540
@twoshedsjohnson8540 3 жыл бұрын
The audience is showing their ignorance and tribal nature. Whenever Sellers spoke, automatic applause. When Coleman spoke to the nuance of this issue...crickets. Sheep don't think, let alone in nuanced ways.
@josephbussen4365
@josephbussen4365 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed but, accusing ppl of being sheep is like telling the teacher the other kids are tattle tailing.
@tarikR.R.5120
@tarikR.R.5120 3 жыл бұрын
Joseph Bussen Well said and I’m honestly sick of that association. The sheep label swings both ways.
@mckenzie.latham91
@mckenzie.latham91 3 жыл бұрын
His nuance was to cherry pick a statistic for a cherry picked anecdotal evidenced then hint that there was actual stats supporting him but never mentioning and using any...
@CreativeSource1
@CreativeSource1 3 жыл бұрын
“Sheep don’t think in nuanced ways” -bars
@twoshedsjohnson8540
@twoshedsjohnson8540 3 жыл бұрын
@F L He can convey a thought and did convey a thought. Harder to do though in enemy territory...the audience overwhelmed Bill on this one. Sorry that thoughtful nuanced thinking bores you.
@Matthew_Murray
@Matthew_Murray 3 жыл бұрын
An actual healthy conversation and debate on an important issue, more of this please
@harbin9er
@harbin9er 3 жыл бұрын
totally agree I like Bill Maher bringing ppl from both sides of the debate to actually discuss issues. Instead of most shows with only a one-sided opinion.
@teresahowick5197
@teresahowick5197 3 жыл бұрын
I’m crying. I know that’s weird. But it has been so long since I’ve seen people disagree like this. And two people who have the same base morals and values. This needs to continue. With EVERYONE.
@BWreSlippySlope
@BWreSlippySlope 3 жыл бұрын
Defund the police chant was toned down by Mr. Activist as he was alone and not with 5 noddings CNN drowns. Either way there no getting past the activists who can't afford the gripe to go away. They are the PLO and are no help in any conversation. Tomorrow he will be on another show railing against racism and forgotten will be any conceding points he made here once he gets his White nodders back. Police are militaristic to everyone. When we see the violence on TV we cease to care anymore, about it and just want them to contain the violence. The actual issue disappeared in Minneapolis with defund the police and the first Minneapolis riots and looting. Dems control most city councils even in the Red States. That is where the policing policy is set. All the burning wasn't done to help black people, but to hurt Trump. Just ask the leaders of BLM who the first target is.
@BradsHacks
@BradsHacks 3 жыл бұрын
Get rid of the audience and it will be even better.
@ticklefights
@ticklefights 3 жыл бұрын
Not a fan of how it ended on "we need to tear the system down or reform it" - you know what happens if we tear the system down? Tons more people die. Tons. Lots of them black - I only point that out since that's a prerequisite for caring these days.
@HighlyActiveFarms
@HighlyActiveFarms 3 жыл бұрын
Shoutsout to Coleman Hughes for always being correct and on point, this other guy is an absolute fool with no understanding of the topic looking only to pull at the emotional strings of the mentally weak
@AnthonyGalli
@AnthonyGalli 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman Hughes was so calm in the way he just shut that other guy down. He be like "Bro, I can use anecdotes too." Bakari is then forced to give his thesis without them, which then makes his thesis sound really weak at least to me, but apparently not to the audience
@GhostSal
@GhostSal 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is the audience wasn’t listening to hear perspectives and debate; they were only there to cheer for what they already believe (right or wrong). Literally God (if there is a God) could have said that Bakari is wrong and Coleman is right and they would still cheer every time Bakari speaks. I could get, it if the cheers went both ways, when good points were made but they didn’t and the bias was nauseating to watch.
@AnthonyGalli
@AnthonyGalli 3 жыл бұрын
@@GhostSal yea i just watched again and the guy says "I don't want less police. I just want better police." LMAO. In other words, he doesn't support defunding the police. Corporate journalists try to redefine "defund" because they are afraid of being openly in conflict with BLM. The ppl chanting "defund the police" want, in fact, less police or even no police, but since he framed his points as "I'm on your side" ppl blindly clap. mE LIKE!!!!!!!!
@midkort
@midkort 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@deborahminter6231
@deborahminter6231 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't make them less true not to mention them.
@JezielProdigalSon
@JezielProdigalSon 3 жыл бұрын
The crowd clapping really undermines this conversation.
@toddsalkowski448
@toddsalkowski448 3 жыл бұрын
Maher should make that announcement before the segment to please refrain from clapping and just listen to the discussion.
@abuibu
@abuibu 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it was very distracting and blatantly served the purpose of cheerleading
@jellothrone3249
@jellothrone3249 3 жыл бұрын
This clapping after every sentence is incredibly annoying lol. Let them talk.
@MrWeaverwa
@MrWeaverwa 3 жыл бұрын
Having an audience is an awful format for a serious conversation
@mikemas311
@mikemas311 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrWeaverwa I agree wholeheartedly! It ruins honest discussions
@dw7312
@dw7312 3 жыл бұрын
Stop freaking watching. GOD
@165Dash
@165Dash 3 жыл бұрын
IMO...when there is clapping, it is not a “discussion” or “conversation”. It is “debate / entertainment”. That said, to be fair, there was once a time in America...primarily in the 19th century...when political debates were both rowdy and a major form of entertainment and where audience fist-fights occasionally took place.
@165Dash
@165Dash 3 жыл бұрын
Protectors...not goons!
@persona2
@persona2 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see Coleman Hughes getting more exposure. That man is gonna become a lot more famous in the near future.
@paulyshore1942
@paulyshore1942 3 жыл бұрын
He won’t, big tech won’t allow him to. He has a different opinion with strong facts on his side.
@wackzingo
@wackzingo 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman Hughes has more intelligence in his little finger than Bakari Sellers could ever dream of.
@GhostSal
@GhostSal 3 жыл бұрын
I’m impressed with Coleman every time I hear him speak.
@mml1426
@mml1426 3 жыл бұрын
Bill needs to fix his audience, seriously. I like what he says, the guests are having great debates, but all those claps are just disturbing the whole thing
@ShadesOfSepia
@ShadesOfSepia 3 жыл бұрын
its probably cuz there only like 9 people there cuz of covid. The room definitely sounds smaller
@greensongs
@greensongs 3 жыл бұрын
poo 0
@toriless
@toriless 3 жыл бұрын
It was still a good conversation anyway. It is nice to see some smart people back on the show again.
@RickyG496
@RickyG496 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! The smaller audiences probably think they need to respond more or louder to make up the size difference!!
@YTWanderer
@YTWanderer 3 жыл бұрын
Only way to fix the audience is to shut them out. Stay at home people.
@frankd543
@frankd543 3 жыл бұрын
The silence of the audience whenever Coleman speaks is hilarious. It’s like a stunned silence...they can’t boo him, not really knowing his political affiliation, and the fact he’s black lol. It’s sad that this is probably the first time ever hearing that perspective.
@vakilian
@vakilian 3 жыл бұрын
This must have been an incredibly frustrating debate for Coleman. As the youngest guy there, he's also quite clearly making the smartest and most salient points. But due to his respectful persona, doesn't force the issue and let's the others just blather on with their anecdotal and somewhat strawman arguments. I wish they'd shown Coleman the same respect he showed them, and directly address his points.
@Hirnlego999
@Hirnlego999 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard? That's the damn NORM, so absolutely NOTHING changes as usual. A country filled with guns, and poorly trained police to boot makes things for a lousy recipe. 1 million will be shot in the next decade, and nothing will truly change because money matters more than lives, this is America dammit! 100 times higher chance of getting shot by police in USA compared to UK, this is an enormous failure. The rightwing policies will not start to do social investments vs social control, the latter will win "blacks were 10.1 times more likely than whites to enter prison for drug offenses" www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/us0508_1.pdf Shooters Quicker To Pull Trigger When Target Is Black, Study Finds www.npr.org/2015/08/29/435833251/shooters-quicker-to-pull-trigger-when-target-is-black-study-finds Black teens who commit a few crimes go to jail as often as white teens who commit dozens www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/01/30/black-teens-who-commit-a-few-crimes-go-to-jail-as-often-as-white-teens-who-commit-dozens/ Police are searching black drivers more often, but finding more illegal stuff with white drivers www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/10/27/police-are-searching-black-drivers-more-often-but-finding-more-illegal-stuff-with-white-drivers-2/
@yadadoo20
@yadadoo20 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't explain how Rittenhouse and Dylan Roof walked away after killing people.
@frankd543
@frankd543 3 жыл бұрын
@yadadoo20 there’s really nothing to explain. Roof didn’t get shot bc he didn’t resist arrest. Not sure what the narrative means that he went to BK the next day. My understanding is that when the police caught up with roof, he didn’t resist. As far as Rittenhouse, my understanding in that case is he was trying to turn himself in. He called 9/11 and reported that he shot someone in the head. He walked passed police with his hands up. I’m actually unclear as to what happened after that, but I read he did go home. Did he talk to police? Or was the chaos too much and he was ignored?But when they finally went to arrest him, he went peacefully. Two anecdotes that really aren’t comparable. What Maher says is generally correct, you resist arrests whether your black or white, they will “neutralize the threat”.
@Hirnlego999
@Hirnlego999 3 жыл бұрын
@@frankd543 "you resist arrests whether your black or white, they will “neutralize the threat”." If an unarmed person is running away why are so many shot in the back? Pose absolutely zero threat to the police. Even the use of tasers leads to a lot of deaths Reuters finds 1,005 deaths in U.S. involving Tasers, largest accounting to date www.reuters.com/article/us-axon-taser-toll/reuters-finds-1005-deaths-in-u-s-involving-tasers-largest-accounting-to-date-idUSKCN1B21AH __ "Last year, in total, British police officers actually fired their weapons three times. The number of people fatally shot was zero. In 2012 the figure was just one. Even after adjusting for the smaller size of Britain’s population, British citizens are around 100 times less likely to be shot by a police officer than Americans. Between 2010 and 2014 the police force of one small American city, Albuquerque in New Mexico, shot and killed 23 civilians; seven times more than the number of Brits killed by all of England and Wales’s 43 forces during the same period. The explanation for this gap is simple. In Britain, guns are rare. Only specialist firearms officers carry them; and criminals rarely have access to them. The last time a British police officer was killed by a firearm on duty was in 2012, in a brutal case in Manchester. The annual number of murders by shooting is typically less than 50. Police shootings are enormously controversial." www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2014/08/armed-police Not even the police can behave in USA
@magainchrist9293
@magainchrist9293 2 жыл бұрын
Love Coleman Hughes
@ihateintroductions5808
@ihateintroductions5808 3 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to see Coleman getting some spotlight. I've been following him for a while.
@jkdelgado1
@jkdelgado1 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna see the next presidential debates show about the same level of respect, honor, intelligence, wittiness, passion for the topic at hand and just plain common decency as these two folks showed here... would that be to much to ask? 🤔 Great arguments and great convo.
@NONENONE-fx3sc
@NONENONE-fx3sc 3 жыл бұрын
You couldn't have said it better. It was a great panel!
@helene420
@helene420 3 жыл бұрын
Won't happen DT is low IQ & doesn't know how to debate he only knows how to insult. Lowest level of argument is insults. But yeah, it would almost be utopia at this point.
@retiredby3570
@retiredby3570 3 жыл бұрын
the left has destroyed that dude, wake up
@TheDeven1000
@TheDeven1000 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck lol
@tical713
@tical713 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I am afraid so
@ladyk7675
@ladyk7675 3 жыл бұрын
This had the potential of a great discussion if the trained seals weren’t present clopping.
@bettinabarr9107
@bettinabarr9107 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure there’s someone indicating when to clap. That’s how the show works.
@BodyOpt
@BodyOpt 2 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@BodyOpt
@BodyOpt 2 жыл бұрын
this audience has always and will always clap anything...as Hitchens declared kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fqtzfJeCsMXRiHU.html
@byhilliard
@byhilliard 2 жыл бұрын
And if there were an actual intelligent person there instead of Bakari Sellers who is just clout chasing for the benefit of his black supremacist target audience.
@arandom1024
@arandom1024 3 жыл бұрын
I've been loving me some Coleman Hughes lately.
@Mino2566_
@Mino2566_ Жыл бұрын
Coleman was cold 🥶 this whole show and well spoken
@sammy9873
@sammy9873 3 жыл бұрын
Kudos to Maher for having this discussion. But wish Coleman was interviewed alone and got more time to speak. His nuanced perspective is far more interesting to hear than the same simplistic narratives that get all the airtime.
@itsbeyondme5560
@itsbeyondme5560 3 жыл бұрын
Nope
@BowersLA
@BowersLA 3 жыл бұрын
No. Coleman is completely trying to take race out of Police reactions to these events, and a lot others, when historically Data and said events keeps repeating and happening MORE to Black People than any other race!
@jasper_of_puppets
@jasper_of_puppets 3 жыл бұрын
@@BowersLA Wow, everything Coleman said really went in one ear and out the other for you, apparently.
@kickhuggy
@kickhuggy 3 жыл бұрын
I mean if you've ever taken a statistics class, you'd realize race is a statistically significant data point. That's beyond debate. Look up how to calculate p score.
@itsbeyondme5560
@itsbeyondme5560 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasper_of_puppets He is a son of an immigrant. He don't know about the struggle.
@penggot69
@penggot69 3 жыл бұрын
What we need is the lack of a live audience.
@cman04
@cman04 2 жыл бұрын
This debate was like watching 2 people in a boat headed towards a waterfall. Sellers was complaining about a small leak in the hull, and Coleman Hughes was there saying, "Ya, that's an issue, but we're heading towards a waterfall!"
@jacoblee5796
@jacoblee5796 2 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@iandeady6288
@iandeady6288 2 жыл бұрын
Coleman Hughes is a national treasure.
@caspianhall
@caspianhall Жыл бұрын
Of course you pale faces love black conservatives
@JohnSmith-tl5tm
@JohnSmith-tl5tm 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman could hardly speak. He had a lot to say here and didn’t get his time.
@BuddhaReflex
@BuddhaReflex 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman is like 24 years old. His time will come to voice everything he has to say. I'm glad we have voices like him ready to enter the political sphere armed with intellect, reason, and logic. Qualities that have been severely lacking for much too long.
@bluepearl_22
@bluepearl_22 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuddhaReflex his name will be forgotten on this show in an instant cause any reasonable viewpoint that differs from the mainstream talking points gets treated like a drop on a hot stone.
@BuddhaReflex
@BuddhaReflex 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluepearl_22 I agree. He'll eventually find larger platforms then Bill Maher though.
@cecileasley9331
@cecileasley9331 Күн бұрын
Coleman misses the point it happens to blacks more than often without being threatening.
@rbzsfg
@rbzsfg 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman Hughes is my new favorite person. Only speaking the truth.
@mckenzie.latham91
@mckenzie.latham91 3 жыл бұрын
All the while providing very little of it other than words...
@nikibronson133
@nikibronson133 3 жыл бұрын
Or he only says stuff at the agrees with your opinion. His actual arguments are things you hear all the time from people on the right and they're actually very flimsy
@nikibronson133
@nikibronson133 3 жыл бұрын
@Majed Talib lol he rights for Quillette which is a far-right publication which is considered a questionable Source because of his promotion of pseudoscience and racial pseudoscience. He's not a Centrist he literally described himself as a classical conservative. He said that on his podcast. He doesn't speak facts he just says stuff that agrees with your opinion which you think is fact. But I hate to tell you this the real facts don't care about your feelings. Sorry that the truth doesn't fit your narrative
@mckenzie.latham91
@mckenzie.latham91 3 жыл бұрын
@Majed Talib Yes many of his points i disagree with since they literally take a biased look for example how he speaks against “black reparations” using the Japanese interment camps of 1942 as an example, only to never mention that in 1989, the American government apologized to Japanese Americans for that and gave them tens of thousands each for reparations.
@DM-qz4kz
@DM-qz4kz 3 жыл бұрын
@@mckenzie.latham91 not really true, Coleman said before that he’s fine with giving reparations to Black folks that actually went through Jim Crow, he spoke out against giving slavery reparations because literally no one who was a slave is still alive today. In contrast, the American government gave reparations to Japanese-Americans that were ACTUALLY in the internment camps since that bill was passed in ‘89 which was only about 44 years after the war.
@AlexReynard
@AlexReynard Жыл бұрын
Dead silence whenever Coleman speaks. People don't want thoughtful, complex, accurate worldviews. They want a simple *story.*
@jrwilliams92
@jrwilliams92 13 күн бұрын
He didnt say anything worth applauding
@oscarc5391
@oscarc5391 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a Minority Puerto Rican Bernie Sanders democratic socialist and I also follow Coleman Hughes on KZfaq and find him to be a refreshing young Voice of reason that should be heard that not going to give people Woke talking points and gives real statistics to backup what he says
@tibi498
@tibi498 3 жыл бұрын
Please stop clapping from happening in these types of discussion, it really undermines each point when the person speaking gets drowned out.
@salilbhatnagar
@salilbhatnagar 3 жыл бұрын
The ppl clapping for every argument by both guys was kinda annoying
@deathbycognitivedissonance5036
@deathbycognitivedissonance5036 3 жыл бұрын
Classic Maher audience...smh
@chromebomb
@chromebomb 3 жыл бұрын
i agree
@Bruno-gj5vn
@Bruno-gj5vn 3 жыл бұрын
It's always a hell lot annoying, not just for the sound polution but mainly for dumbing down the discussion by influencing the debaters to reach for the easy applause instead of the right argument.
@AuntieFa
@AuntieFa 3 жыл бұрын
American television audiences are unbearable.
@TheUsername217
@TheUsername217 3 жыл бұрын
* claps to this comment * 👏👏👏👏 woooo
@ChieflyMe
@ChieflyMe 3 жыл бұрын
Props to Coleman Hughes for staying calm, composed, sticking to the points and being respectful in that he didn't talk over Bakari.
@jordangerstman9814
@jordangerstman9814 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman Hughes is just way more nuanced and solution based
@_PatrickStar
@_PatrickStar 3 жыл бұрын
maybe I just got used to the lack of applause after every single line, but shit that got annoying
@michaelscott70
@michaelscott70 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to see Coleman getting the recognition he deserves, great nuanced perspective.
@lccoleman3
@lccoleman3 2 жыл бұрын
Because you like the HOUSE N-WORDnbb
@ninjapirate47
@ninjapirate47 3 жыл бұрын
They always reveal themselves in the end... they can't help themselves... "we need to tear it down". The only honest words that came out of sellers mouth that entire video.
@Yana2214
@Yana2214 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman Hughes is brilliant! Thanks for having someone this thoughtful and clever, and most importantly rational over emotional on your show! Oh yeah, and I fully support all arguments about not the most clever audience - sounded like a cheap sitcom
@biganthar
@biganthar 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman Hughes is sensible and debates with logic. It seems that's what we lack from both sides. Common sense and logic.
@m3driver245
@m3driver245 3 жыл бұрын
Hughes is neither sensible or had any logic. He cherry picked an example of someone being shot by cops who wasn’t black and then accused the other guess of cherry picking not one minute later. He then argued that these interactions with cops might not be racist and then proceeded to imply the cops were racist by not investigating the murder of black people. He didn’t seem to know whether he was coming or going. He embarrassed himself.
@Dashoost
@Dashoost 3 жыл бұрын
He is actually trying to move the conversation unlike Bakari who is starting from a conclusion and desperately trying to defend it by circling around every other point being made and fueled by the audience who is happy with the way he manages to keep the conversation from moving into an uncomfortable place that may alter the conclusion they are all desperate to defend
@m3driver245
@m3driver245 3 жыл бұрын
Dashoost Or, Coleman Hughes made poor points that only resonate with a certain group of people who are desperate to believe racism isn’t real. Take a look at this. www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/27/white-supremacists-militias-infiltrate-us-police-report
@rdalge
@rdalge 3 жыл бұрын
​@@m3driver245Coleman talks about black on black violence as if noone knows this is a problem already. He hasn't yet moved on to looking at its root causes, and how to move beyond it systemically, other than to say "stop doing it".
@waynemarcelinsr.5045
@waynemarcelinsr.5045 3 жыл бұрын
EDUCATION CAN BE A DISTRACTION ESPECIALLY WHEN A PERSON WANTS IT TO BE!!!!
@EN2Edge
@EN2Edge 3 жыл бұрын
Bill stop interrupting Coleman. Killing me just when he's about to make a good point. driving me nuts
@Mayhap34
@Mayhap34 11 ай бұрын
Bill, can you please implement a policy of having the audience hold their applause until the end? --From everyone watching.
@Mushruums
@Mushruums Жыл бұрын
There is an “Applause” sign that lights up for the audience in that room. My mom went to one of the shows and said they were told when to clap. So if anything, this applause is directed by the producers.
@beebobox
@beebobox 3 жыл бұрын
That audience clapping is a problem.
@irememberyou12
@irememberyou12 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Clap clap clap clap.
@sgarber8813
@sgarber8813 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I love Maher. He's not afraid to question everything.
@Buttlather
@Buttlather 3 жыл бұрын
He was so obviously afraid to broach this subject. I bet he has a stronger opinion when the camera is off. It needs to be said, though. The data does not support the narrative.
@mckenzie.latham91
@mckenzie.latham91 3 жыл бұрын
The fact he gets so much wrong all the time should have helped him try.
@mikegray8776
@mikegray8776 2 жыл бұрын
Sellers, 36 (lawyer/politician) sounds like an unhinged rabble-rousing activist Hughes, 26 (student/writer) sounds like a thoughtful balanced unbiased analyst. Time to adjust our idea of role models, people.
@bonanimathambo8721
@bonanimathambo8721 2 жыл бұрын
Everybody should spend a week with the police so they see what they have to go through. They’ll get the shock of their lives.
@honestcomments8053
@honestcomments8053 3 жыл бұрын
the audience is annoying and doesn't sound genuine.
@cordyone
@cordyone 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, grandstanding has no place in healthy debate
@straight2curveus
@straight2curveus 3 жыл бұрын
Very much horrible
@samueltexeira2734
@samueltexeira2734 3 жыл бұрын
Cordy One why is their reaction grandstanding?
@cordyone
@cordyone 3 жыл бұрын
@@samueltexeira2734 Crowd reaction encourages grandstanding, it is an unhealthy element of debate.
@landonfire4589
@landonfire4589 3 жыл бұрын
Legacy Media
@soni3085
@soni3085 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Bill for having this conversation on your show!!!! I am sooooo proud of you Coleman !!!!!
@illxplicit07
@illxplicit07 3 жыл бұрын
Bakari Sellers does a fantastic job presenting the twitter argument against police brutality. Coleman Hughes does an even better job presenting stats to counter Sellers' conjecture.
@lizsalazar8808
@lizsalazar8808 2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious that Coleman made a statement about having better policing whatever that means for the budget ( no applause) Bakari literally says the exact same thing worded differently (big applause) 😂🙄😂
@scottmiller1563
@scottmiller1563 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Bill would go back home.........the audience literally clapping at everything is ridiculous You don't need to clap everytime you agree
@scottmiller1563
@scottmiller1563 3 жыл бұрын
Agree I hate Trump but the far left doesn't help
@scottmiller1563
@scottmiller1563 3 жыл бұрын
Bananas how many hours do you have ??
@seamusbyrne8152
@seamusbyrne8152 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that the people in this comment section, for the most part, have more sense then this ridiculous audience
@user-zb6lg1xj3k
@user-zb6lg1xj3k 3 жыл бұрын
And a bad sound bite for them to end the video on
@JK_JK_JK_JK
@JK_JK_JK_JK 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah IKR 🙄 The audience is always too excited and clap for no reason! 😡
@carlosivandegodoy
@carlosivandegodoy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the props bro
@kieransmith9616
@kieransmith9616 3 жыл бұрын
*clapclapclapclapclapclapclapclap* I dunno whatchu mean *clapclapclapclap WHOOO clapclap*
@mypillowguy445
@mypillowguy445 3 жыл бұрын
Than, not then.
@seangould1316
@seangould1316 3 жыл бұрын
The audience applauds at every emotional appeal to their biases, but when Coleman makes cogent statements that challenge their biases, they don’t applaud. There is only one moment of partial applause when when he mentions that Kenneth Walker thought the cops were intruders. The audience is so willing to believe that cops are evil.
@MaruTheGreat
@MaruTheGreat 3 жыл бұрын
Both Sellers and Hughes make good and valid points. But what seems to be missing from both talking points is the power of police unions and their relationships w/ the cities and towns they "protect and serve". Much of police conduct (and in some cases a lack thereof) is usually approved by a mutual agreement between city councils and police unions. In order for there to be any real reform qualified immunity must end, and city council members need to re-negotiate the terms/conditions of the agreement they enter in w/ their police forces. Additionally, we must end the militarization of police forces all around the country, end the disastrous "war on drugs", and take away some of the funding from police forces (or re-allocate them for better training programs), and ALL major cities need to have some form of watchdog/police accountability groups.
@byhilliard
@byhilliard 2 жыл бұрын
Sellers made zero good points. He's obviously a moron.
@tylerzika
@tylerzika 3 жыл бұрын
Notice that Coleman actually wanted to talk about solutions and discuss policy. Very levelheaded and calm. Any time he brought up a point it was ignored. Never expanded upon or even critiqued. Yet he would address any point brought up by Bakari but could barely get a word in. Bakari was full of emotion and anecdotal evidence, which says a lot considering he works for CNN. The fact that he disagrees with the goal of colorblindness, even disagreeing with Bill, is telling. He believes the most important thing about someone is the color of their skin. Bill needs to STFU when he has guests on with opposing views and go into moderator mode. He spoke way more than Coleman. What’s the point of having a guest on if you speak more than them? His segments when it’s just him are fine and should be the place to get out all his talking points for the night. When it’s him and a guest, I say keep it 50/50 at the very least. The more he can let his guests talk, with sprinkles of him, the better. The audience is just terrible. When there is a back and forth between opposing guests, and the producers know this will happen, there needs to be a signal to keep the audience quiet.
@ChrisRubeo
@ChrisRubeo 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman is a friggin' genius, and he's only 23. He's so spot on about these issues, it's unreal.
@JH-ci7gu
@JH-ci7gu 3 жыл бұрын
What I like about Coleman is he is always level headed and takes care to chose his words and framing precisely. He goes out of his way to be non combative or inflammatory. Bakari on the other hand was getting defensive and emotional, when his positions were torn apart.
@Grkgroup2
@Grkgroup2 3 жыл бұрын
Bakari also said he “believes” that police officers do not get away with crimes against white people. That’s patently false, they do and there is no media scrutiny as Coleman tried to explain.
@King31395
@King31395 3 жыл бұрын
@@Grkgroup2 Yes, police officers get away with crimes against whites too, but white neighborhoods don't even remotely have the same over-policing problem like black neighborhoods. Even Jim Belushi came on after this segment saying he'd been arrested twice as a teenager for drugs, yet never went to jail. And that blacks are constantly getting jailed for the same thing, 4 to 1.
@UrbanMonkey55
@UrbanMonkey55 3 жыл бұрын
Dead on. Bakari is a race baiting snake, just like his ilk on the network of promoting race riots. Hughes doesn't sound like someone who wants to be told what to think because of his skin color.
@artgarfunkelsgingerfro2886
@artgarfunkelsgingerfro2886 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing is more exhausting than someone who sees racism in everything.
@tarikR.R.5120
@tarikR.R.5120 3 жыл бұрын
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck then.......#🦆
@peteg8847
@peteg8847 3 жыл бұрын
Then it might be a toy duck... Meaningless expression cos toy ducks exist.
@artgarfunkelsgingerfro2886
@artgarfunkelsgingerfro2886 3 жыл бұрын
@@tarikR.R.5120 When in Rome?
@ken_dan
@ken_dan 3 жыл бұрын
This is America. It was built on RACISM. Therefore there is RACISM E V E R Y W H E R E
@TJ-fe7rr
@TJ-fe7rr 3 жыл бұрын
@@ken_dan the ones who see racism everywhere, are the ones who make everything about race
@markeggins890
@markeggins890 2 жыл бұрын
Coleman is such an amazing intellect who sticks to principle not ideology - Sellers just ignored his point about the high number of black murders left unsolved as an 'inconvenient truth'.
@poolerboy
@poolerboy 3 жыл бұрын
5:38 Hughes: “You’re cherry-picking examples.” Sellers: “Did they not happen?” There’s only one of two explanations here for Seller’s response. Either he doesn’t understand the difference between relying on anecdotes versus data when analyzing a social phenomenon, which makes him uneducated enough to not qualify for an opinion on that table, or he knows better but he’s willing to lie, which also disqualified him from a seat at the table. Which is it?
@21972012145525
@21972012145525 3 жыл бұрын
Why was his response to “cherry picking” is “didn’t it happen”? He knows he is smarter than that. Such an irresponsible response
@jimhenley4938
@jimhenley4938 3 жыл бұрын
It's just a way of saving face. That's what happens when you spend all your time in a Twitter echo chamber hearing the same unchallenged narrative over and over again. Sellers was probably thinking, "Shit, I haven't thought of that - how can I attack what he just said?"
@21972012145525
@21972012145525 3 жыл бұрын
Jim Henley it’s not a way of saving face. It’s just a poor argument that makes no sense
@mogamadgreyson143
@mogamadgreyson143 3 жыл бұрын
It was a perfect response,he was citing incidences as proof
@Lebronwski
@Lebronwski 3 жыл бұрын
@@mogamadgreyson143 that’s call an anecdotal fallacy my friend. If we look at the data it tells a very different story.
@micahjohnsonboxing6409
@micahjohnsonboxing6409 3 жыл бұрын
He's talking about cases that happened and he could talk about it all day
@erniehudson1
@erniehudson1 3 жыл бұрын
the audience does not applaud at all when tragedies are put into perspective but when woke slogans are presented
@MaartenRonteltap
@MaartenRonteltap 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe that's a good thing, actually. It could mean that they haven't reflected yet on some new ideas that they're only hearing on this show. Immediately applauding someone's words means you're already familiar with what he's saying and you agree with it.
@nunyabiz012
@nunyabiz012 3 жыл бұрын
typical... shows that most average people care about their emotions more than facts - and that’s a very unfortunate fact.
@EllaLou600
@EllaLou600 3 жыл бұрын
This was, at it’s essence a speculative discussion-entirely anecdotal and thus devoid of objective facts. Interesting enough, Criminological studies that provide statistical data and analysis support Bakari’s position. So if we are talking about people who are led by their emotions instead of facts, we need to include those who eschew this data because they are emotionally incapable of accepting the FACTS.
@jwatson181
@jwatson181 3 жыл бұрын
@@EllaLou600 they dont. Why make things up my friend? Please cite studies.
@EllaLou600
@EllaLou600 3 жыл бұрын
James West Here’s a whole Annual Review for you:www.annualreviews.org/doi/pdf/10.1146/annurev-soc-073018-022541
@GMGBlackWhiteMUNGEY
@GMGBlackWhiteMUNGEY 3 жыл бұрын
Wow .. Coleman Hughes was impressive
@stevenygabbyperez695
@stevenygabbyperez695 Жыл бұрын
People who don't understand why you might "empty" a clip on a suspect have no business commenting how to improve policing.
@BeldnerFilms
@BeldnerFilms 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think Mr. Sellers has the facts correct on the cases he is talking about.
@natbrownizzle3815
@natbrownizzle3815 3 жыл бұрын
He does not care about the Data. A friend of mine is a professor of ethics in philosophy. He talked to one of his student on the topic of "gender pay gap" and said, that he can show her statistics, which show, that women do not make 30% less than men, the studten told him "I don't care, I have my opinion and that is enough for me". The left simply understands, that science or stats, simply do not matter as long as you can get the crowd. And that is what he just watched in this clip. Coleman points out the cherry picking, Sellers ignores it, Coleman points out that the officers do have a right to shoot back, when shot at, Sellers just ignores and ends the discussion with the same old "This system is made for whites, not for blacks", showing that he ignored anything Coleman said, because at the end of the day he knows, Coleman might be a problem but if the left lies often enough, the lie will simply overshout the truth, simple and tragic as that.
@hollydabral
@hollydabral 3 жыл бұрын
He's parroting the BLM narrative, and people love it.
@anthonygeorge9932
@anthonygeorge9932 3 жыл бұрын
He said Kenosha "protesters" Vandalizing, looting, arson and carrying a gun make you a protester if you are considered left-wing. If you are doing the same thing on the right, then you are a terrorist. Either side is not important, you would be a scumbag either way.
@natbrownizzle3815
@natbrownizzle3815 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonygeorge9932 It is the same thing in Europe. Anytime there is a financial convention in Swiss, the left and their black block burn down cars and destroy shops and they are mostly supported or defended by the media, in some cases, alt left leftists travel from Germany and France to Swiss so they can burn down stuff, the majority of protesters are peaceful, but the alt left only wants to see destruction. And yes, I dont care what party you are in, the moment you burn down stuff and attack people, is the moment you left democracy and headed for tyranny and I will never support that crap.
@joshmccollen700
@joshmccollen700 3 жыл бұрын
The audience was clapping for themselves. Very strange behavior.
@toriless
@toriless 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, typical. You really need to pay attention.
@carlosivandegodoy
@carlosivandegodoy 3 жыл бұрын
Typical for this show
@deathbycognitivedissonance5036
@deathbycognitivedissonance5036 3 жыл бұрын
Woke derangement.
@adamfstewart81
@adamfstewart81 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting insight. Spot on.
@takeospikes5151
@takeospikes5151 3 жыл бұрын
Yep anything we agree with is good and just and moral. Anything we don’t is hateful and illegitimate and worthy of being burned down.
@AnthonySC213
@AnthonySC213 2 жыл бұрын
Coleman we need you man
@chrisj9849
@chrisj9849 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman Hughes for the win!!
@JH-ci7gu
@JH-ci7gu 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman Hughes with the look on his face "I can't belive this idiot"
@jwatson181
@jwatson181 3 жыл бұрын
@Spence how so? The dude is crazy smart.
@MylesGmail
@MylesGmail 3 жыл бұрын
All police need body cams n they must b turned ON at all times! PERIOD
@thomasnk9489
@thomasnk9489 3 жыл бұрын
So they can post their killings on youtube.
@naotamf1588
@naotamf1588 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasnk9489 when that happens i am going to subscribe to premium!
@acopernic
@acopernic 3 жыл бұрын
Doing this will not solve the problem. Police must be trained, must do only their job.
@thomasnk9489
@thomasnk9489 3 жыл бұрын
@@acopernic none is rly interested in solving anything. It is mostly about virtue signaling and getting likes on youtube. And to be honest i don't care i am white.
@canadianperspective3731
@canadianperspective3731 3 жыл бұрын
As long as you have no accountability, body cams mean dick shit. All it does is prove to the public their fears are justified.
@snowyshaw1968
@snowyshaw1968 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman Hughes is a great up and coming Star! Let this guy talk. He is Genius
@michaelwatson2419
@michaelwatson2419 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t a no knock, she wasn’t asleep, they didn’t fire first and the list goes on
@rene6876
@rene6876 3 жыл бұрын
bakari just says what people like to hear he is like a politician
@basicfeelings8375
@basicfeelings8375 3 жыл бұрын
That's because he is.
@HappyRoach1
@HappyRoach1 3 жыл бұрын
Bakari Sellers said every black activist/black SJW/black liberal intellectual talking points. Especially when he said that the "the system worked perfectly because it was not made for us" shit, and "we need to tear it down."
@TheOriginalman7
@TheOriginalman7 3 жыл бұрын
Facts bro. Sellers is unimpressive. Hughes is literally a breath of fresh air. Please pardon the cliche.
@tyiingram9878
@tyiingram9878 3 жыл бұрын
Nice try, but here's the thing Bakari is not lying. These talking points, that you all like to call them, addresses what is happening. For generation this country has been allowed to terrorize people of color, especially black.
@mechellestewart8439
@mechellestewart8439 3 жыл бұрын
@@tyiingram9878 ...please name a situation, post civil rights movement, where "a country" has terrorized black people in any way they havent to someone of any other race.
@antonc81
@antonc81 3 жыл бұрын
“You’re cherry-picking examples” “Are you saying those things didn’t happen?!” *audience applauds 🤦🏼‍♂️
@m3driver245
@m3driver245 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently Coleman doesn’t know what cherry picking is either as he provides a solitary example of a man named Derek Cruise being shot in the face.
@antonc81
@antonc81 3 жыл бұрын
M3 Driver he provides it to demonstrate what cherry picking is ie that two could play at that game. That’s the context of his example. His whole argument is that it’s better to look at the stats than have an example-off that leads nowhere.
@m3driver245
@m3driver245 3 жыл бұрын
antonc81 no his example was to ignore statistical relevance by pointing out one non-black person who was killed. Stats without context mean nothing. He should have 9 Derek cruise examples for every 1 Breonna Taylor example to show if the racial bias thing isn’t true. He doesn’t have that. All he has is the Derek cruise talking point.
@luckduck5961
@luckduck5961 3 жыл бұрын
@@m3driver245 HA! You have to be joking. Try reading Hughes. He has data on his side. I have to say it was also hilarious that Sellers seemed to not know what the civil rights movement in the 60s led by MLK was about " I have a dream people will be judged by the content of their character" Seller spoke in empty platitudes. He hasn't a clue. www.city-journal.org/reflections-on-race-riots-and-police
@luckduck5961
@luckduck5961 3 жыл бұрын
@@m3driver245 hear abt his 'No Knock " raid last year that killed two? Of course, you didn't! the victims were white. No BLM support for them.
@hehateme542
@hehateme542 3 жыл бұрын
There’s like 3 people in the audience and HBO paid them to clap every time the black guy on the left speaks. For all we know they were trained seals!
@sidneybechet9969
@sidneybechet9969 Ай бұрын
Wow this aged well. Coleman’s logic will Win in the long run
@michaeltudda2988
@michaeltudda2988 3 жыл бұрын
I like MR. Hughes, he is tough and smart.
@avaparker9603
@avaparker9603 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry - but I disagree with you here. He's right that not everything should be about race, but his points are below average. He criticizes Bakari for one person examples but he does the same. And actually, when you discount more interactions the police have w/ blacks, there is a strong racial bias to the disadvantage of black Americans
@highneedforcognition9660
@highneedforcognition9660 3 жыл бұрын
@@avaparker9603 do you have a source for that last claim? multiple studies have not shown such an effect when it comes to lethal police violence, such as Roland Fryer's 2017 study
@ps5622
@ps5622 3 жыл бұрын
@@avaparker9603 that's strange, Coleman mentioned a source that actually said the contrary : that when it comes to killing someone, cops are more likely to shoot a white person
@mckenzie.latham91
@mckenzie.latham91 3 жыл бұрын
Hughes constantly is found to misuse and misrepresent data foreign weak arguments all the time... just try listening to his bullshit on anti reparations.
@cherylannebarillartist7453
@cherylannebarillartist7453 3 жыл бұрын
The phrase “defunding the police” is provocative and leads to misunderstanding. Call it what it is: a balancing of funding and priorities.
@BryonLetterman
@BryonLetterman 3 жыл бұрын
@@VoxVictus because calling for it makes on an idiot.
@chuckecheese5251
@chuckecheese5251 3 жыл бұрын
This is not accurate when some tells you what they want believe them and just saying "they havent killed 30 people and done billions of dollars in damage haven't been done" they want to abolish the police and it doesnt have a deeper meaning and BLM flat out denounced campaign zero dozens of times so dont feed me that BS you clearly dont have any idea what your talking about and your rationalizing it on the fly or taking it from someone whos lying to your face as a lefty for decades and i was a Bernie donor from 2002-2019 your wrong period
@djack2860
@djack2860 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not misunderstanding, ppl in America don’t care until it affects them. If it was called “reallocation of city resources to vulnerable communities”, Democrats would means test it, Independents would ignore it, and Republicans would demonize it as socialism. People in America do not care about anything or anybody except themselves, family or their lifestyle.
@onemediaadvocate3371
@onemediaadvocate3371 3 жыл бұрын
@UCxlhvqJBBDSIphJkBnFBscg nope socialism is the full control of all markets by the government libertarian is no government and everything in between is called Neo Liberalism especially by socialists but youve never even talked to 1 or like Googled it try it politics is to vast for anyone to fully understand dont be completely ignorant child
@danb308
@danb308 3 жыл бұрын
They literally had signs saying abolish the police just the other night, same as back in June. Last time I checked abolish means to tear down or destroy, not balancing priorities and reforms.
@Uhdksurvhunter
@Uhdksurvhunter 2 жыл бұрын
"I dont want less police. I want better police." You think removing most of their funds will make them MORE trained? If anything, we need to spend MORE on the educational/academical parts of trying to become a police officer.
@BrennanVickery
@BrennanVickery Ай бұрын
Coleman Hughes is King.
@chrislategan8242
@chrislategan8242 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman Hughes is a rare, brave and valuable voice in America.
@ChrisRubeo
@ChrisRubeo 3 жыл бұрын
He's the absolute best. And he's the future.
@88jetster
@88jetster 3 жыл бұрын
Need to get rid of the audience for good. Does this show have a “clap at every sentence” sign?
@johndifrancisco3642
@johndifrancisco3642 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, they do, but it's an applause sign that lights up over the stage. And I believe a boo sign.
@sammavacaist
@sammavacaist 3 жыл бұрын
It's a passionate issue. And Bill's audience is politically literate.
@sammavacaist
@sammavacaist 3 жыл бұрын
@Space Alien Reality is tough.
@AmusedChild
@AmusedChild 3 жыл бұрын
Defund the audience.
@stevinacanstevinacan9618
@stevinacanstevinacan9618 3 жыл бұрын
only when its the guy they think they're supposed to support!
@ke6533
@ke6533 3 жыл бұрын
"More riots and unrest in the streets over something that might not be true." Hmm...maybe instead of knee jerk reactions we all wait for facts?
@judethaddeus9856
@judethaddeus9856 2 жыл бұрын
I am glad I am not the only black person who does not jump to racism in everything that happens
@delvedesign2092
@delvedesign2092 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman hughes is amazing! Love listening to him on his podcast! He does this on in long form. The amount of facts and logic that he can pack into each second is unreal!
@aynse_
@aynse_ 3 жыл бұрын
Coleman Hughes sounding like the black Sam Harris almost. And i mean that in a good way lol
@samueltexeira2734
@samueltexeira2734 3 жыл бұрын
Lol this is certainly not coming from a Black person, what a surprise!
@JoeyDMedford
@JoeyDMedford 3 жыл бұрын
They had a podcast together. It was awesome.
@aynse_
@aynse_ 3 жыл бұрын
@Spence So 1 i said Almost. and 2, are his points really that unfounded? did you hear Sam's "Can we pull back from the brink" where he pretty much says a similar point, that for any "yet another poc killed by white cop" he could point a vid where the races are reversed or in any combo that you can think of. To say that isn't to say that there is no race problem in america, its just simply to state that selectively observing videos shouldn't be one's soul ammo for a strong opinion on something they really aren't that well informed on. (not calling YOU out i just mean in general)
@mumblefluff
@mumblefluff 3 жыл бұрын
@Spence Did you listen to Sam Harris and Coleman Hughes podcast together? They agree nearly on everything, and Sam really likes and admires Coleman. I think they talked about it with Sam if my memory serves right, and they didn't disagree, so make of that what you will. Seems to me you are quite uninformed about Coleman's views, when he said he can find examples he was talking about murders and heavy shit like that, not just cops treating unfairly. The problem here is he didn't get to talk enough and was cut off even by Maher himself, so he couldn't finish telling his views properly. I listened enough of him to know that he doesn't think that black people are treated just as well as white ones, he agrees that cops do pick on black people more often unfairly. The problem is that that is not the same as killing people, and data shows, according to him, that when it comes to cops killing people it's not clear that there's a bias between black or white, media ignores more when cops kill white people. Most often used example is Tony Timpa, you can google that.
@ralex3531
@ralex3531 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same, he is super calm and careful.
@KahudMom
@KahudMom 2 жыл бұрын
He said it, lack of accountability toward the criminals also adds to the problem.
@breet1516
@breet1516 3 жыл бұрын
Drowning out Coleman at every turn. Sellers should listen to him. Coleman is a lot smarter and more honest.
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