Maxx it is sad that a comedian has to arbitrate a well reasoned debate. Love Bill and almost always agree with him. Malcolm resorts to cheap ass shots that make his opinion worthless.

@@friscomorsegmail Agree. As soon as the insults began, it became the intellectual version of Mike Tyson biting Evander Holyfield's ear. The parallel being at these two moments in history, two out of the four were getting their ass handed to them with desperation and frustration the end result.

@@friscomorsegmail Ben shapiro literally said "I will comfort myself tonight by sleeping on my bed made of money" as if it was not the most childish remark I have heard. Both parties were not even being fair just throwing opinions and their own fabrications around. Malcom can't even make a solid argument and ben shapiro neck veins pop out each time you question his superior knowledge

I think the only section of his show that would benefit from a no applause sign would be the panel discussions. Everything else I'm fine with.

I don't think the audience is so much the problem as it is the 'clapping seals' in it. Watched his shows during the lockdown and I have to admit that it felt kinda empty. Maybe have more conservatives on or place a bucket of fish in the parking lot to keep those idiots distracted during the show.

🤡 audience

The producers flashed the "Applause" sign off camera, and so they did whatever the shiny blinking sign told them to do.

I know its frustrating ur icel hero is getting shit on

@@jamesgraham2192 Ben Shapiro is married with 3 children and a VERY successful business so that's pretty much the opposite definition of being an "incel": Plus his whole message has been, "finish school, don't go to jail, get married before having sex and you should make it in America".

@@Akihito007 Shapiro has his own agenda too. He is well spoken, I agree with that, I find some of his content entertaining, but I never watch any of this content without filtering in my mind what both sides are trying to articulate and the real meat and grit behind their arguments. Yes Ben is highly articulate but his argument is fundamentally flawed, no matter how well he articulates it. "CRT" doesn't exist period. It's just like "communism" and "socialism", yet another scary word trotted out by the right. I also find it highly ironic that ppl like Ben and proponents of cancelling "CRT" talk about the divide that CRT is forming in the country but they are doing the exact same thing. Hustlers on both sides.

They choose with deep devotion to pretend to be "blown away". Their job is important for your psychological distortion which fuels white supremacy (white supremacy is the power behind your currency).

that's what happens when the whole crowd is hardcore liberals. They'll always cheer for the Left regardless of what is being said

Sounds like Ben and Bill were the stupid ones dat u fell to understand .

@@spoker2006 Now where do you even get the idea that he is racist?

This was the first time I saw Malcom Nance , and he is so cringe and inapt in debate, he was obnoxious , Im not a big shapiro fan but he called MN's idea bullshit , whereas MN just insulted ben for NO reason

Yeah can't respect a CIA agent who has protected your freedom to crappy opinions.....

Agree 💯

You can't have a factual argument with Ben Shapiro

@@cedwardmassey Whaat???

@@cedwardmassey Yes, because he speaks truth, and malcom was too weak and dishonest to focus on the truth.

ya

Agreed. Some audience members are really stupid. Especially those in California.

And the debaters should be in sound proof rooms that can be muted when someone is answering their arguments

It is also a great example of why CRT is doomed. When a Malcolm Nance is a champion of it then by definition it is finished.

This wasn’t “debate”, it is infotainment for audience capture and retention. A debate would be two to three hours with a moderator, a proponent of CRT and an opponent. It would start with coming to a mutual agreement on definitions. It won’t happen because proponents of CRT would never agree to this.

Very good point sir thank you.

I think it shows how out of his depth Ben Shapiro is

That's like very episode. The show often has the vibes of toddlers watching a quantum physics lecture. The audience seems to have no clue what's going on, but clap when they hear a word they like.

ya

Super left !!

Except… Maher wasn’t on Shapiro’s side.

​@@transphotography except the fact that he was arguing Malcom Nance and not Ben Shapiro and actually defending Shapiro's stance. I, like the majority of other in this comments sections, have all noticed the crowd shift tone and hesitate to clap for Nance once Mahar's opinion was brought to the table. The amount of awkward tension in that room was palpable. That's why this clip exists in the first place.

​@@transphotographydid we watch the same video? Maher was 100% on Ben's side.

@@transphotographyi think you’re delusional

Yeah. They totally backed the wrong horse.

People like this spend more time prepping comebacks than they do thinking about the actual issues.

Ben Shapiro made a point that the left believes anything the media on the right says is false when that’s not the case. He then said “like the virus” referring to covid because people on the right call that a “hoax”. It’s a good point because he was saying CRT isn’t taught in schools maybe it is maybe it isn’t but to say that isn’t as controversial as saying covid is a hoax. How can Shapiro appeal to that logic wit covid but when he’s apparently doing the same thing, it makes his stance unsound?

So it was a witty petty comment yes and it doesn’t directly respond to his argument but if you know who Ben Shapiro is and if you are familiar with US politics then you should’ve understood

@@alexvillanueva4498 we a;ll understand blacks need whites to always hold their hands that we all understand.

@@alexvillanueva4498 we aren't denying COVID exists, we are denying it exists because someone decided to eat a bird, and the elites have something to do with COVID.

FACTSSS

Absolute facts

Yeah. Shapiro is definitely a loser.

Saying to someone that you believe their arguing technique sucks... isn't slander. In fact, no one slandered anyone in this video so I'm not sure how this was even relevant.

@@unclesamuelkaingata9749 Slander might be a stretch in this case.. but all the black gentlemen did was throw out propaganda & assumptions based on his opinions without actually debated anything while playing the crowd psychologically better than a carny leader playing up momentum.

malcom the loser

That why Ben had to brag about being rich lol?

That has certainly been my experience.

You're right. "I sleep on a pile of money" Ben shouldn't lie about himself lol XD

Pron00b, malcom was being so annoying the whole debate. You can't get mad at Ben for snapping. If I was there I would have gotten angry much earlier.

Correction when they resort to ONLY insulting people…….. Some people insult you while winning the debate.

If you can’t argue the points or rebuttal with valid counter points and you result to insulting you always lose the debate and that’s what happen in the video

Or they’ve had enough with the bs. I love it when they’re so desparate their only argument is “I sleep on a bed of money” lol

​@@crazytrain848that wasn't even close to being his only argument. That was one throw away comment. If you honestly think it was his only argument, or even that he said that as an argument, I suggest you don't watching videos like this until you've retaken all school.

@@jimmy2k4o Nance clearly won. A rarity. Nance literally shut Shapiro down and Ben was defeated and knew it when he claimed he was confused, Nance's virus remark was the winning point Ben couldn't counter.

You are joking, he was a clown

That means I’ve won a LOT of arguments I’ve made for progressive policies against conservatives. Thanks.

@@dr.christopherdiaz4473 Careful, you’re showing your highly skewed internal bias

@@dr.christopherdiaz4473 lol there isn’t a single good cause for any progressive policy. At all. It’s all bullshit baked in racism and victim mentality. Name a single issue where progressive politics is superior to conservatism. I’ll wait.

LMAO, NOT. In this case, Ben looked like a complete idiot and Malcolm SAW this and used it to HIS advantage. Ben bit the bait and almost lost it.

@@dlomane1965 I never said who lost or won, or who insulted who. So the fact that you immediately defended Malcolm exposes the fact that he must have been the one who stopped presenting counter points and started throwing insults otherwise you wouldn’t feel the need to defend him. By arguing you have actually proven that according to the premise I put forth Malcolm lost the argument.

That's the secret of Bill Maher's success.

jesse my friend, don't pick on the audience - they are just clapping because the producer lit the signs that said "applause" and "laughter" ;)

I think that aligns with the Fox theory mentioned, too xD

Still kind of weird seeing Maher or anybody for that matter be such a cheerleader for Shapiro

Thays what Democrats do.

Come across a lot of people like that in the navy 😂

Well.. turns out you're the worst kind of liar

My husband spent 22 years in the Navy and never saw war. He prepared for war every single day. Myself and my two boys were shipped around the United States for 22 years defending this country for the potential of war. I'm not sure your comment has any value to it. My two sons are now serving in different branches of the military and I hope they don't see war.

@@ellaapodaca2620 Did your husband misrepresent himself as someone who did? No one should want to see war but Malcolm uses the weight of experiences he hasn’t gone through to try and get people to trust his beliefs.

@@alcazar123456 I completely agree with you. But both sides do this if we want to be honest about it. You can't go a day without watching Fox News without seeing some Navy SEAL on their doing the same thing.

I'm sure you meant a great example of knowledge and proper context, as opposed to quoting an article about liberals taking Fox Newa as truth, whatever that means.

​@@AchOwed Malcolm is another populistic moron who twist the truth to fit his ideals. It's ridiculous seeing someone like Ben debate an ignorant idiot.

Malcolm brought a spit ball and a straw to a duel😂😂

Bruh thinks he's Malcolm X, he isn't.

“Lions den” leftists have no critical thinking skills😂😂headed into the sheep den

Exactly... with out the leftest crowd and Malcolm talking about his 4 generation grandpa...I don’t care America now anyone can go make regarded of any color..I grew up white in a all black neighborhood and was poor compared to allot in my community.....Ben would tear him up with out crowd

Yall outta your mind if you think Bill maher is a lefty. He's a corperate hack neolib.

@@bender9222222222 talking about the audience

Because lefties are nothing more than circus seals

😂 this is so hilarious cause I imagined him actually saying the yo mama joke

@Nunya Biz A decent debate or conversation takes place when two people come to discuss in good faith. Ben gave an impartial definition of CRT. Contrary to what the moderator asked, Nance gave no definition, dishonestly called it history and went on a mindless and condescending rant throwing jabs at someone who addressed him respectfully. Even Maher had to call him out for lying that CRT is history and that Ben called CRT bullshit. You're just as dishonest as Nance for saying someone has his head up anybody's ass when you're the one with your head up CNN and Joe Biden's ass because you've convinced yourself you're always right and everybody else is always wrong. Look at what everyone in the comments is saying and ask yourself why you're so stupid.

@Nunya Biz You used the word, "literally" in a situation that in no remote way called for it. As if there was a figurative way to interpret, "made great points". No one should take you or your comments seriously.

@Nunya Biz Now that I think about it, he could have been making pointy objects during the debate. But that makes your comment even dumber. lol

well Malcolm Nance definitely won this one

The difference between barbarism and pure class

@@jaypandya7441 Shapiro seeks a L bertarian A narcho- S yndicalist T heocratic version of America.He was screaming over "Barbie" the movie, but it set records proving a demand economy is best for Capitalist societies, not tickle down propaganda.

Well, debating the actual issues is part of systemic, inherent racism built into the white-male patriarchy...just like math. Just clap for the person accusing the "Republican Right" of doing something nefarious. Before we know it, the U.S. will be growing crops with Gatorade and swearing in President Camacho.

@@jaypandya7441 Or the difference between oppression deniers and the oppressed. Kinda ironic that Shapiro would take this stand considering what his people are going through today...

The bots haven't received a firmware update in a while, and it's showing.

Yeah very obvious

The controller of the canned laughter and clapping was a bit off that day.

Hitch would have been happy

Dwayne D Malcolm is correct. There isn’t a problem regarding critical race theory, only freaking out by conservatives as if there is.

ya

Benny shapino: America first is racist 🤣

He did that before but kept getting killed in debates😂

The audience are sheep 🐑

I think it was a laughter track

Liberals.

Sounds like something my dad used to say: don’t hang out with idiots, because if you’re smarter than them they’ll stoop you down to their level.

Lol. Thanks for the reminder

Mark Twain I agree but Ben Shapiro “ I will be laying in a bed with money “ Lmfao 🤣

Nance took a n L on this one!

@@MacenW My dad used to say if you walk with a donkey you can only become one and if you walk with a cripple.... and so on. Simple basic theories yet very true.

Many of the comments share your opinion, so let me break it down. He says, yes I agree, because the basis of your thesis is true and the system is stacked.

they have the same attitude as Bill Maher who may criticize their own people (radical left) but still would rather the economy of our country crash just so Trump is out of office. Well they got their wish.

@@nyceflix It's not "his" thesis, he simply defined what CRT is according both to it's own authors and to Malcolm himself, and Malcolm agreed with that definition. Then when pressed he tried to redefine CRT as 'teaching history'. Bottom line CRT is bullshit.

They were waiting to be told what to think.

great point

He doesn't have to try hard too.

@@MrThumbs63 Indeed, anyone who advocates this segregationist nonsense is, simply said, a clown. Only young idiots and old racists agree. Saddest thing is, those young idiots are very rapidly turned into the thing they think they are fighting against while supporting those old racists who keep pushing it.

@@DomesticTerrorist SPOT ON!!

a HIGHLY recommended book: The Death of the West by Pat Buchanan. This CRT bs goes back decades. An audiobook is on KZfaq

You have a Clan mentality

ya

Seemingly.. could also be a crowd mixed with some conservatives and some shit heads. Or whatever we call them these days. The they thems. Lol

@@chrischris5510 i thought about that for a second but realized well Shapiro didn’t get a single clap when he made a point so there are probably no conservatives in that group LOL.

@@chrischris5510 lmao why am i not surprised chris chan is a republican

@@mikehawk8361 hey bro that’s a sick name

Did we just watch the same debate? 😅 .. he had no proper argument on actually anything...then some manipulating tactic to bang on about his grand daddy...nauseating..and PS when you start insulting your opponent you've lost the debate.. your a poor arguer and have nothing concrete to talk about. Ben was kind jordan Peterson would of ripped him.apart..

@@rebeccacoleman8338smh oh my this went wayyyyy over your head

That's is because they are the zombies!!!! Get ready for the zombie apocalypse!!!!!

@@georgetarbutton8752 you sound like you were part of the Insurrection on January 6th

I agree… But let’s be honest they did it at the Trump debates. All he did was take a page out of President Trump‘s book… A stupid page… because I completely agree with Ben. And I’m a huge fan of Ben for his well thought out arguments and points of view. The thing is I look at Ben and Bill and if all of our government was more like them then things could get done… Because they understand that it’s not about sabotaging the other… You can come to a logical consensus

@@kelvinmack7104 "insurrection" lmao

@@valentinfranco6396 Logical consensus is a foreign concept these days

The smarter person won the argument

"We're all very different people! We're not Watusi...... We're not Spartins!! We're Americans!!!" - Bill Murray

I’m able to win an argument with a stupid person. I make them feel even dumber through the use of comedy. I do it on Twitter all the time.

Oh yeah ?! "Quoting famous people quote, makes me look smart." - Albert Einstein.

@@rasadams9034 Not in your case!

💯

Actually it was more like: Malcom: "Red crayons taste the best" Audience: *thunderous applause*

More like "the week has ten days".

🤣🤣🤣 Exactly!

Shows the iq of the audience…. “Theyre not bringing their best” as the don would say 🤣🤣😭😭

Disagree with some of Shapiro’s antics and statements but the audience are sheep Clapping at the cartoonish nance

And try to use controversial statements and phrases like defund the police and “viruses”. The crowd just clapped and clapped because they heard those things 😂 bunch of sheep man idk anymore

shapiro acted like a pouting child

* as he uses laugh/smile emoji whilst insulting him. (Maybe prepare better next time and not be so ignorant?)

@@patrickmulroney9452 That is because he is the size of a pouting child!

@@patrickmulroney9452 you're proving the OPs point

This crowd are probably the same morons saying that this Biden administration is doing a great job.🤦‍♂️

You got that right . I wish the cameras will have turn towards the audience and see the people who were clapping only for Maicon...... my assumption will be pretty accurate of the type of audience that was there..... isn’t Malcom??

I heard claps for both of them

because theyre told when to clap. duh

They edit in the clapping and laughter after the fact.

He didn't say his show sucks he said is this what you do in your show because this sucks. He is right Ben knows that the right is using CRT to be an umbrella saying they just don't want honesty about history taught

@@Kadegabe wrong lefty

That part was cringe

@@RobertZemeckis2025 so you really think the right is concerned about a graduate school class being taught to 3rd graders? Most of their teachers wouldn't even be qualified to teach the theory.

@@Kadegabe I think the right does care what their kids are being taught in school.

Also deflects at the end by sending out insults.

its lefty brain

Ben was attempting redefine the debate using a semantic trick, and that why he got the “it sucks” because no one wants to play juvenile games with him. Ben is actually better than this, but he has trouble when starts pandering to a non genuine narrative. Malcom ready stated that Ben and many others have falsely demonized the issue. Because that is literally Ben’s job in life. Not speaking the truth but creating emotionally potent oversimplifications to divide this county on racial and economic lines.

@@SirSketchable I beg to differ. What he said makes sense, it's just not true.

Ben should have told him I AM POPULAR AND NO ONE HEARD OF YOU

When someone says to you “is this what you do on your show, cuz it sucks” it means they have no argument and you have won the debate.

Shappee is the stupid one right ?

Well said

@@MrHamtits God, one would think. I can't stand his voice.

@@moniqueloomis9772 How does his voice equate to how smart and well articulate he is?

@@moniqueloomis9772 No one can stand his voice but that has nothing to do with the discussion.

ya

He acts as someone with immense privilege. He has power over the other two people in the discussion and he knows it.

Black privilege. It's real.

What do you mean?

This guy thinks "defund the police" was (in his words) hijacked to mean defund the police.

Nah ben was wrong here. Christopher Rufo made all this up about CRT and Transgenders in sports to motivate people against public schools. Shapiro is probably bring dishonest pretending to not know this and Maher doesnt actually do his homework

All Nance was doing was countering Shapiros debate. Nance not only was right, Ben knew Nance won the debate at the point when Ben was talking about Fox News and Nance countered by bringing up conversations on Fox about viruses as an example, Ben stopped dead in his tracks, knew Nance had just nailed him, and retreated and covering himself by stating he was confused. And the debate ended. I don't watch that much of Shapiro, because I find it boring that he preys on those who aren't seasoned debaters and has made a lucrative career doing so. Nance got him. It went over Maher's head, the audience heads, and obviously your head. It was exquisite to witness and get the rare opportunity to see Shapiro in defeat. Maher has no clue what a gem this truly was. Only hope it was pointed out to him.

@@cinemaconnosseur Ben is correct about critical race theory and Malcom’s first words were saying he completely agrees with bens characterisation of critical race theory. Don’t fall into the trap of defending something terrible like CRT just because right wingers speak out against it. Believe it or not the right can babe correct about stuff occasionally. Malcom showed here that he doesn’t actually listen to or understand the right wing argument because he assumes that the right just want to prevent the teaching of history, which I’ve never heard anyone argue apart from idiots like nick Fuentes and Richard Spencer who nobody on yen right even likes. So I think of you find yourself agreeing with him here you may be a little caught up in tribalism and need to be a little more objective (or perhaps you’re a Marxist and agree with CRT in which case I can’t help you 🤣)

@@cinemaconnosseurnothing nance said was right😂

@@thecyclamen9106 Malcolm did not address any of Bens points. He just jumped into something irrelevant like his grandpa fighting which was not relevant to Bens point at all.

It's kinda funny.. he says something that is 100% irrelevant and they just clap to support him.

Not sure what's more embarrassing, his nonsense or the audience clapping mindlessly. OK, it's a tie.

Bill Maher's audience isn't a smart group

Trained seals

@@machtnichtsseimann now just give lefties a helmet

So where exactly, was Malcolm incorrect or wrong? Because you can draw a straight line to all the maladies to all the statistics Bill Maher mentioned. White people for the most part are interested in these facts because it doesn't impact them. For example, blacks have been targeted criminally since emancipation. Slave and black codes to the present. John Ehrlichman in an 2016 interview said that was what the war on drugs was about. Look it up

@@scorpianbliz oh

Dude yes his level of smug was bothering me so bad. I know Bens blood had to be boiling

When Ben called him a liar he was projecting. Because that is the first line of conservative defense.

@m_train1 I gave you historical facts and context. If it is such bullshit, you should be able to refute it, but you did not refute a word I said, is that not right dummy....

you mean people are waking up? the leftist wave in bound. bet in a few years america will have socialized medicine.

@@mogar5764 If this is waking up, they must have gotten an hour of sleep last night.

@@trebberzings676 where do you get your news? what is your defintion of CRT?

@@mogar5764 I get my news from a wide array of sites. Left, right, small, large. I like to have every angle I can get so that I can formulate my own opinion. I'm more of a moderate, I wouldn't even say left or right leaning. But it's pretty apparent, even to most leftists, that CRT is a pretty bogus teaching. You ask me what the definition of CRT is like I wouldn't know? It's exactly what Ben said in this video, which is, in turn, exactly what Nance agreed with.

@@trebberzings676 lmao the enlightened centrist. i don't see many leftists here.

Now if only Shapiro will admit on his own channel that CRT ISN’T being taught in America.

Stay salty brother. 🤣

Thats democrats for you. Most have room temperature IQs

Malcolm explicitly said he agrees with classical CRT but that the right hijacked the term so they could air brush history. It's a shame you didn't notice.

@@NA-bn9er, if your school focuses on the application and practice of a theory it's not fair to say they teach the theory? I get that there's a bit of semantics in this debate, but it's not like opponents are misrepresenting CRT.

ah yes, gotta love being so unable to use "Facts and logic" that you gotta just say "well, i got more money than you, so hah"

love how ben stood his ground to that. much respect for him

@@mannyv99 assuming that something is an "out-growth" of CRT is NOT standing your ground.

@@Mr._Moderate he never assumed tho, he was just laying out facts.

@@mannyv99 CRT is a button issue now that just about anything can be an "outgrowth" of CRT. Doesn't mean it is though. It's more plausible that it's linked to economics and/or politics it's not factual just because Shapiro said it

@@mannyv99 bed made of money

I'm a right winger, but while the left is insane, the right is stupid, and most asshats do in fact get it wrong. Ben gives a good, real definition of CRT here. It is monstrous, and what's beautiful is that the CRT goblin publicly endorses it shamelessly. He says out loud that under CRT, the existence of a disparity, by itself, is evidence that said disparity is caused by discrimination. This is transparently retarded. Newton saw an apple move from a tree to the ground; saying that the existence of the movement is evidence that a force called gravity caused the apple to fall is as logical as saying that the existence of the movement is evidence that aliens caused the apple to fall; better evidence is needed and this is a dogshit epistemic standard. CRT scholars never actually do the research to show that this is the case. They'll just point to something like an income gap, and point to all sorts of statistics on outcome differences, but never give proper evidence that discrimination is to blame because they're operating on a perverted version of critical theory which has descended into relativism.

@@particleman5893 this comment is gold, the Newton analogy had me dying lmao, had to give credit where it due

No, he went from agreeing and over to say that it is true. Malcom then lists reasons why he thinks the theory holds merit. Ben does not think the theory holds any merit.

@@patrickjensen9283 Ban said the theory is that every institution in America TODAY is racist. Malcolm agreed. Ben said we should not teach that. Malcolm said "what? We shouldn't teach history?" A theory about today is not the same as history.

@@patrickjensen9283 bro did you even watch the video?

I always tell others this, when they start insulting the argument is out the window

I would agree to an extent, but Ben's history of ridiculous statements against minority groups do point to a larger problem.

@@bender9222222222 "Ben" is irrelevant to the issue they're discussing.

He just kept derailing the conversation and changing the subject if possible (talking about the virus when he brought up Fox News)

@@gordonbgraham why is Ben in quotes here. Is it not really ben?

Yeah that was pretty pathetic. You can tell the only thing he did to prepare for the debate was plan to tell that story, or he would have waited for a logical time to tell it, but all he could do was avoid question, deflect with anecdote, hurl unfounded slander. And you can tell someone is down there with an applause sign for the audience, telling them when to react. Pitiful.

ya

@@cheryllwaldrop9732 your just mad he smashed ben. Hahaha

Yes - what a fool Malcom is.

yes

fr even if u don’t like the guy, he made total sense here regarding what they spoke about. The audience was delusional

Who? Oh wait, I don't care.

I'll never reference Nance in political debate nor will I buy anything he ever says. Never knew who he was beforehand but he is desperately trying to 1up Ben to sell books and get internet famous. Hes trying way to hard and he completely over thought his approach and position and over-managed the minimal debate time for his own personal gain and cred. He's utter garbage and I'm glad everyone sees it.

@@ActuatedGear he is joke

@@RobertZemeckis2025 Jokes are supposed to be funny. I don't like that avant-garde shit. That was just sad.

Agreed. I also think Ben's response was not classy and quite beneath him.

I didn't hear an applause for shapiro?

I know right, Ben always finds a way to fuck up...

@@TheGermanBeefhammer well what does that tell you genius? You’re definitely one of those in the crowd clapping at nonsense 🤦🏽‍♂️

Yes, only Malcolm was applauded, not on the merit of his points but because of the emotion what he said evokes. That is the power of propaganda through the public school system and mainstream legacy media-mass brainwashing!

@@AN-jw2oe what's the propaganda and bullshit spread in churches called?

Or what not to do.

Sounding and being intelligent are two different things.

@@jerudella8236 Exactly… Saying things that a dumb audience will applaud for is just sounding

Yep, Malcolm Nance is the one who had no valid arguments. I felt so sorry for Ben having the share time with this fringe lunatic. Sigh…

@@costco_pizza I agree. Ben started a very good discussion, but was countered by childlike tactics and no valid argument.

CRT is a legal theory they study in in law school lmao to say it’s sole purpose is to divide people up is a pretty autistic way of thinking. Just being honest.

Nobody said Black people are smart, and Malcolm proved it!!!

@@caprisunpapiiiiiiiii8296 has nothing to do with with dividing people it’s just a lens you can use to analyze history from a racial POV. It also leads to certain socio political beliefs buts it’s not “dividing people up” or whatever dumb shit you said

When he said he agreed and the audience applauded... he agreed that the ending of racial segregation was bad and just to benefit white people.. these people are absolute morons. NPC audience, worst I've seen on any of these types of talk show clips.

@@sabastian3022 you should reread my comment. Where exactly did I say it divides people?

Isn't she kinda crazy and he'd lose that one because he talks too fast for his own good? In a very proper and structured debate format, he'd definitely lose.

That seems to be the status quo for a lot of these guests on hot topics of the day, especially in the gun control debate area.

say you didnt watch the video, without actually saying you didnt watch the video

@@mikehawk8361 say you have no counter argument, without actually saying you don’t have a counter argument

@@FrostLordOni sir this is a youtube comment section, there are no such thing as proper arguments on here. comments here are only useful at bullying people.

It's like we watched two entirely different videos. All I saw was an insecure and angry little manlet trying to pretend that racism doesn't exist in America.

So basically same as Shapiro then. It's good to set up an even match

He has a punchable face and the way he talks the arrogance only makes me wanna do it more

He lost his shit at the end and resorted to a cheap shot and Shapiro came back with a better one.

@@nemopotato9825 you're talking about Ben's nasally prebuscent voice, right?

@@_audacity2722 wrong lefty

His thesis was that Shapiro is misrepresenting critical race theory, that in fact for the most part the right is using it as a tool to suppress discussion of issues like the KKK and systemic, historical wealth imbalances. What's the non sequitur?

Exactly

100. The audience only wants to listen to what they want to hear.

YES!! That guy is a joke. The scary part is an entire crowd soaking it up.

Yupe. Sums it up pretty well right there

Ya for real

hehe

I think you are making the opposite point of what you intended.

right!?!?!

@@carvedwood1953 Ben defined the term. "Even things that are purportedly good in terms of race, so long as they uphold these broader systems- things like capitalism, or things like the meritocracy- these things are just guises for power. What this boils down to, in sort of practical terms, is any disparity equals discrimination." Nance agreed to it. Ben explained that the application of this definition would require Nance to sacrifice his own career, as he benefitted from a meritocracy which is something he agreed was a guise for white supremacy. Then Nance said "my great great grandfather didn't fight in the civil war to hear this nonsense" or something. So, no, I'm pretty sure the point Relo was making stands.

@@undeadman7676 yeah, no. Shapiro uses straw man arguments that mean nothing. Although they do a good job at convincing others that don't look at it critically.

Mr Shap is a moeron

@@MrHamtits he’s a real sharp guy.

@@MrHamtits "moeron", by the way.

It’s because Maher’s main base agrees more with Malcolm then Ben so they’re going to cheer for him.

Maybe they were applauding at "at last some fucking peace". I know I would.

I would as well, actually. However, Ben has been given the exact same advantage in other debates. It depends on the makeup of the crowd. I debate apologetics on a regular basis and I rarely enjoy debating in front of the congregation. Mob mentality always kicks in at some point and it can be difficult to get a single word out. Even when I’m debating apologetics in front of a crowd that generally supports my own arguments, the moment I catch the crowd rallying against my opponent, I try to immediately shut it down because it can truly make the debate one sided and I don’t believe any progress is made from that point onward. Nance should’ve had the courage to confront the audience and allow Ben his time. Of course, it’s difficult for me to feel completely sorry for Ben, because he’s guilty of allowing the same type of behavior.

What is sumg?

@@christopherd5941 Except Nance was being nonsensical regardless of the audience.

@@mathurex211 I agree, he was for the majority. Ben has had his nonsensical moments as well in his debates. Although, I will admit that while Ben has had nonsensical moments, I can’t recall him being so for an extended of amount of time, such as this. Usually, Ben will become more so the longer he speaks on a single thought. I have a suspicion this may be one of the reasons he speaks so fast in his debates.

@@christopherd5941 Ben's known for being particularly on point logically, like a Vulcan. I dont know of any nonsensical moments from him, barring his embarrassing night with Andrew Neil. He is human of course, though I think his verbal speed has more to do with his processing chip than anything hahaha

It's a cult.

Yea bill and that other white guy is pathetic.

@@phuckyoutube9631 I mean that would imply the crowd was cheering for Ben.

Lol at your picture and name

@@phuckyoutube9631 "the man" "yes Bill and that other white guy" this guy didn't make it far in school, if he's black he just added to the already bad statistics. Feels bad

It's called herd mentality

This is the woke left. Absolute idiocracy.

The worst part of the show is the audience.

@El Watcho The audience is a result of the public education system

Even Bill comments on the quality of studio audience he gets. Often teasing them for not keeping up. Often people who just got off a tourist bus?

@ABM part is history and it should be thought as a fact not with opinion. Where CRT goes astray is when it teaches one group they are racist and oppressors by fact of birth and another that they will always be oppressed victims with no ability to advance on there own.

And then accuses Shapiro of using a hijacked definition! The guy is literally just going for rhetorical effect on an audience dumb enough to clap along.

@ABM Mate stfu, you’re the one who doesn’t know what they’re on about. YES, it is theory and history, when it should just be history. That’s the point. Especially when this particular theory is so terrible. It is an explicitly anti-liberal and anti-American theory. It uses magical thinking in place of rational argument, declaring the whole system to be racist despite being unable to point to parts of the system that engage in this racism, not having any legal basis on which to make such an assertion (only ever describing unequal outcomes, and just asserting that the cause of that inequality is racism). Kimberle Crenshaw explicitly states that she wants to promote Race Marxism in her book, but then acts all two-faced in television interviews, lying to people, telling them she just wants to continue the legacy of the Liberal Civil Rights movement. Stefancic and Delgado make it crystal clear that their problem is with Liberalism. Derrick Bell promotes an image of America so wilfully pessimistic that the only solution presented is the total breaking down of the system and replacing it with something entirely different. In this respect it is a revolutionary ideology. That is a TOTALLY inappropriate thing to teach in schools. So stop hiding the ball, and stop with the cheap moralising and smug race-card pulling. It’s a complete crock. When you say “whites are fearful”, you’re reducing people’s objections to something irrational. But CRT is detestable for completely rational reasons. Nonetheless, you say you understand why white people would be fearful, which is an acknowledgment of CRT’s anti-white bent. Yet still you support it? This alone is enough reason to oppose CRT. No Theory that promotes anti-whiteness (or anti-any-particular-race-ness) should be taught in schools. It’s as simple as that.

@ABM What planet are you living on? “Trump rallies”? A). I’m not a Trump supporter B). I’m not even American (i.e. I’m not wrapped up in the lazy partisan politics of Democrat/Republican propaganda. I just find this stuff offensive to basic rational sensibilities). C). Trump isn’t even the paradigmatic politician anymore. I take it this childish response of yours, much like Malcolm Nance’s in the video, is being given because you have no argument.

@ABM You’re right, I was mistaken to assume that you gave a shit about anything you say being coherent or rational. After all, this is just about resentment isn’t. What you’re saying is not just racist against whites generally, it’s philosophically deranged. Truth isn’t a self-evident thing. It is something that has to be argued over and demonstrated. So yeah, when you make crazy claims I’m going to argue with you. Tough shit.

Ben gaslights people all the time when he debates them?

@@sophiajames6008 Reported for rape

@@sophiajames6008 Even supposing your comment is true, how does that make it ok for Malcolm to do it here? Especially when Ben was being reasonable in this discussion?

@@anastasia-fr1gn ben did the same thing

@@sophiajames6008 where

How he got so triggered here, he didn’t even respond to Malcom towards the end. He just got angry just like in the BBC interview lol.

@@cliffspringer8084 BBC Same as CNN . I would have left 10 minutes earlier. The BBC was literally only trying to do the Gotcha News Crap like,: (8 years ago, you said this part of a sentence in a speech). so we need to admit that Dem always party of jim crow

@@cliffspringer8084 Ben didnt know on that BBC show that the point was to withstand insulting situations, here that’s not the point. So you can call Ben out for being triggered, but you cant call him out for being wrong, certainly not more than Malcom.

@@RobertZemeckis2025 you know that the guy that interviewed Ben on BBC is a hardcore Thatcher conservative right?

@@Moredakkamus Neil talked bad about trump and ann coulter on 2016 election day watch bbc election coverage Neil was upset with Ben because Neil is pro choice. no he is not conservative .

Liars always smile when they are lying and Malcolm smiled A LOT

Thats what i was thinking

@@slime-e3989 They also avoid eye contact and use dismissive language in order to deflect the truth bombs being lobbed in their direction.

and cos he has claps. he's doing it for his pride to be fluffed

It's bc he knows Ben is 10 times smarter than he is.

😂😂😂😂

its a low bar to clear but republicans are struggling with it

hahahah thats exactly what this was. Can I get some like on this comment? No? 9/11 Was bad and puppies are cute.

L effing OL. So true!!!

This is a surreal time we live in. Scary really.

lol arf arf