After FL Studio, which DAW should I try next?

Having used reason for years and years. It is the only DAW out there. My tracks are made only with reason.

Good overview, I use both, which is the best of both worlds. Once Reason is upgraded to support VST3, there will be even more flexibility. The real lesson here is that all DAWS have their own flavours and can provide different inspirations.

Thank you, for this video! Reason is the best DAW ever! Yes, I'm a Fanboy :) I learned to use Pro Tools and Ableton Live during I studied Audio Engineering at the SAE Institute. But Reason is still the most beautiful and inspiring DAW for me :) 🧡 Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪

I used to use Ableton to produce and mix everything down in ProTools. My cousin turned me on to Reason four years ago and haven’t turned back since. A one stop shop.

I GENUINELY like this girl. I'm 20 years your senior and i learn from you all the time. I started in a cracked versions of Cakewalk, Cubase and Fruity Loops. I bought versions of all these eventually as they crashed my PC.Currently usng FL 21, Ableton Suite 10, Reason 11 and Maschine. Thx for your vids All my best wishes for your bright future.

As a Reason 10 user, the one thing that makes me keep looking at other DAWs and particularly Ableton, is the lack of proper midi controller support for Reason. Even the newly announced Arturia Minilab 3, which supposedly has support for Reason, comes with a number of major compromises: 1) there's no "main knob" to alter whichever software UI knob/fader/button that is currently focused - in fact, you technically can't even focus on an element of the UI in Reason, you can only focus the entire instrument/effect. Imagine the ability to click on *any* item on the screen and twist a knob to tweak that value. That would 10X the tactility of Reason! 2) the automapped are hardcoded to certain things in a clumsy way. For example, in Europa, the knobs only map to the first of three synth engines. If you shift focus to engine 2, you'd expect the knobs on the Minilab 3 to control that engine, but no, Reason has this set up so that every knob has a unique identifier (e.g. Engine2Shape, Engine3Shape, rather than "CurrentEngineShape"). This limits the use of the hardware controls. 3) Although the rotaries are endless on Minilab 3, in Reason, they still remember their most recent state so if you flick back and forth difference instruments, the encoders on screen will still jump. Apparently there is no setting for "catch/scale" modes for knobs in Reason, it's only "jump". 4) The faders act the same way, they cause a mix channel to jump to the physical position of the fader. Minilab 3 was just an example to illustrate the point: in Reason, you're basically stuck with using the mouse and keyboard for the most part, any midi controller integration will be clumsy and less tactile. In Ableton Live, it seems that these things are much more thought-through, and midi controller manufacturers take the time to integrate their hardware really well with Live. I wish Reason would collaborate more closely with hardware manufacturers.

I’ve been a Reason user since version and one a perpetual license of R12. I also own an older license of Ableton (7 I think). The one thing I really like about Ableton is the clip launcher and being able to build song up as a performance by launching midi and audio snippets and recording the results. I sincerely wish that was a feature reason had available, especially with Blocks so you could play experimentally and then sequence the results in chunks. One feature in Reason that doesn’t get enough attention is the ability to chop and juggle parts of Blocks and player sequencer lanes. You can remix existing content and shuffle parts around super easily, with barely an inconvenience, to break those static loops into something more exciting.

So much work went into this video. Thank you for your hard work.

I liked that twist at the end: “I wouldn’t “😏😉 Everyone raves about Abelton and I was expecting to hear something here that would wow me....but it’s still RS for me. The most important thing is mastering what you choose!

One of the best thing about Reason's sequencer is it's low learning curve. I remember using it all the way back in 2003 (for the first time) and I pretty much already knew how to work it without reading anything. Ableton has a higher learning curve. I remember really needing to read the manual, look at videos, and come up with a good workflow to get to grips with it. That said Ableton is a great ergonomical sequencer once you get the hang of it. But yes Reason has friendlier synths vs Ableton's (whose many synths like Wavetable can be a bit uninviting in their workflow). Reason's has some of the best synth GUI designs that invite tweaking. But I feel Ableton has much friendlier Samplers than Reason's (although Reason is getting there with Mimic)

Reason 12 for me. Looks better also inspiring especially now in HD. Live seems to Electro. It’s almost like it’s for Rave music only. Reason 12 factory sounds warmer. Only down fail is no VST 3. I think if the add this it’s will blow all the other DAWS.

I came across your channel as I'm upgrading from Live 10 to 11 today to take advantage of this year's 20% and free update to version 12. I'm hitting the subscribe button as you are knowledgeable and articulate about two of my favorite DAWs. I look forward to checking out some of your more recent work. Thanks for the time, effort, and resources that go into creating each episode

Great video as always! Hey there! BlueCat Patcher is a Vst2 and it can handle VST3. So in this way I use Vst3's in Reason.

I'm sure you meant to say monophonic when talking about reasons pitch editor and quick tip for some midi rooting options in reason: There is the midi out device for pushing midi to external devices and a free player: cv player tap by lectric panda, for midi note over cv. This said, I have no knowledge of live 11's midi rooting so can't compare them. Neither DAW is screen reader friendly but personally I have found reasons midi remote a great help.

I've been with Reason since V2. I'm working on my 9th album produced in Reason. The main reason I rely on on Reason 12 as my primary DAW is due to the ability to automate nearly any parameter of any native Reason synth, effect or utility. This gives me MASSIVE control over sound design and performances. I simply have not learned how to do that in Presonus Studio One v4, my other DAW, because its so stupid simple to do in Reason. Great video, thank you!

“Sonicality”! I like that!

The pitch, timestretch, tap tempo, and editing is why i love Reason. I guess, cause i have them memorized, LOL

I´ve made a ton of unfinished tracks in reason.. now I´m hoping to turn them into live sets in Ableton.. seems like more work than I had hoped to. But so far I´m enjoying myself!

The longer I've made music in a DAW, the more I learn it comes down to taste and which program you know best. I think Reason is far more limited than Live in a workflow and feature sense, but those things force creativity sometimes as much as they can slow you down. Sonically, I make better music in Live. I just prefer using it too, so even though I started on Reason 1.0 it's just the rack I use anymore.

I would only add that, you dont need to manually route things with cables in Reason - you can right click and choose from pop up menu same as Ableton. Since Reason made the SSL console and added audio tracks to the sequencer I dont see the point in using anything else - its a lot more intuitive than anything else Ive seen and has basically everything you need out of the box.

I learned music production at college using reason 11 Made some edm tracks out of it personally i really like cakewalk cuz it’s free with a lot of free vsts which saves me alot of money.

I use FL Studio 11 with reason 12 rack plugins in the template - It is a nice all-round nostalgic experience

Single fatherhood took me out of music production back in the Reason 3.5 era, but I managed to have 2 tracks played in the local clubs. I’m just getting back into things and I just couldn’t seem to find my footing with Ableton. Reason, while quite bigger than when I last used it, allowed me to hit the ground running. Reason is the way to go for me.

I love using Reason inside FL Studio. I mostly just use Europa and Kong, but I use it in like every project. I would us Reason by itself but I only have 11 intro vs having all Plug-in FLStudio.

Used reason for years but moved over to live 3 years ago. I have reason 12, use the plugin but only open the daw its self for the pitch editor as it is very good but even that is rare. I've tried cubase, fruity, logic and bitwig, and live wipes the floor with them. Friends that swore by logic tend only use it now for mastering as they are used to their mastering chain after making everything in live. Reason for me seems more like a service like native instruments. Wouldnt surprise me that reason becomes pluging + service al together in years to come. I think reason 13 will be a good acknowledgement of this as any update for 12 will no doubt be bug fixes of new devices on plus package.

this is a cleean breakdown! incorporating the gist and vibe of the daws into the technical breakdown is an angle i think other videos on this topic could benefit from

For the price, Reason. I haven't upgraded since V10, because there hasn't been enough to be worth upgrading. At some point if they don't get their act together, I may switch to Ableton, but as a whole I've been very happy with Reason for years. Compare it to Pro Tools that completely stopped inovating about a decade ago, and it's definitely the way to go for full production. Though, if I was just doing a lot of analog tracking of musicians, it would NOT be my first choice for mixing an album. But for productions where you're going to create most of your sound within the DAW, Reason, hands down.

A really great breakdown! Thank you.

I’ve prefer Live’s piano roll over many others, from a workflow standpoint it’s so intuitive to me and spitting out midi data is just a right click press away.

If you need VST 3 support in reason, use Blue Cat Audio's BC PatchWork Synth VST. I have had no issues using VST3 in Reason 10

I still produce in Reason but now I mix in Live.

Good rundown.

I own both. I’m happy

you're gonna make me pop open Ableton. prolly not, just deleted it off of my laptop on Friday. but I am however learning quite a bit from this presentation of yours. =]

Incredible comparison video. I have both and I learned quite a bit from your video. I use the Reason Rack in Ableton this days.

At approximately the 7:00 mark, you described polyphonic as playing one not at a time, no harmonies. I think you meant to say monophonic there, yes? Otherwise, awesome video! Love these.

I'm so used to analogue keyboards etc. Reason suits me most.

Love the tutorial, just to be really picky - Polyphonic means 'many' voices (harmonies), monophonic means 'one' voice (no harmony). Again, love the video, you continually impress me with your knowledge and willingness to share it in a way that is understandable and to the point!

i am more of a bitwig user lately but i still check out other daws now and then

I kinda find myself wishing that, as a user of Ableton 11 suite with perpetual licence Reason 12 (since v2!) that the two companies would merge and become ReasonAble. I much prefer Reason's physical representations and interactions. The older Ableton goes on the more dated and fixed it's UI has become. Like how the tv show Space 1999 looked futuristic in 1975, but now it just looks like 1975. (I realize you are too young to know what Space 1999 is so have fun with that google hahah) I just find nothing about Ableton's instruments is intuitive for me, like how approaching a Reason virtual rack IS, because I started on physical gear. I understand why Ableton appealed to non-musicians who wanted to DJ or arrange pre existing loops into their own "song", but I myself never use clips in Ableton... I prefer to write my own. If I wanna do an instrumental beat that sounds like it bit from a 70s soul track, I write a 70s soul track and produce it to 70s specs and sample it. Then I end up with two songs!!! Anyway, this video is great and you are really helping me re-integrate Live back into my work flow after a long absence. Appreciate it!

Terrific breakdown. Thanks for this!

VST2 version of BlueCat Patchwork VSTwrapper can load VST3s and has own MIDI routing subsystem(supports multiCore etc) and reopens the previously opened plugins so can survive with it, Player devices sent to track also (FL has MIDI burn only)

Reason 12 Is the best

I use both as they each have their own magic bits :)

I wish there was a bit more about the synths and and sonic quality between the two. That's what I'm mostly interested in learning about. Reason's synths are awesome, but do Live's synths compare or are they even better? What about the preset patches? Reason has a ton of presets but I'm unfamiliar with how they compare to Ableton's in terms of number and quality. WIth reason+ you also get new patches every week. How does that compare to Ableton's ecosystem of sounds/ Reason also has a ton of loops, but they seem to have never been updated since the early 2000s! Does Ableton have a large loop bank/ are they more modern and frequently updated? I was also surprised to hear you say that Reason's piano roll blows Live's out of the water. All I hear is people complain about Reason's piano roll. I believe you were mistaken to think nobody would watch a 30 minute video comparing the two. People are really passionate about their DAW loyalties lol.

thank you..was wondering if i need to upgrade from 11 to reason 13 or move over to Ableton.. your review was excellent and explained beautifully

One correction 7:02 "polyphonic" means more (poly) than one note at the time, just one note at the time is called "monophonic".

Great Videos as always - Using Bluecat's Patch device you can actually use VST3 in reason 10 or +.

Great video! Thanks! Any plans on checking out Bitwig? As an ex Reason-user I feel Bitwig incorporates the best of both Reason and Ableton Live. Really can't recommend Bitwig enough!

Excellent! As always. Thank you for your magnificence.

Really great deep dive analysis. Thanks!

Fantastic comparison, thanks!

ok i'm sorry but i fell in love with you within 17 seconds x)

Wow great video and I love the camera work of this video. Young lady I see your growth in the way you do what you do. Wow great video.

Great video! I love Reason. A new keyboard came with a free copy of ableton, so I'm trying it out. Thanks for the great comparison. I think in the end I'll end u p wanting both now. LOL.

Awesome video! 🥂 Cheers from Germany

Wow....yove come so so far ......This whole video was ace. And that tip[ about audio to midi in Ableton live? lemme use my Focusrite to get my free Shelton live lite license lol

either DAW has pro and cons....the most important thing how creative you create your sound..not the DAW selection you use...

reason also support vst3, which most plugins are these days. So it's fully compliant with vst3 You say: polyphonic means one note at a time, no harmonies. I presume you made an error there, since what you describe is MONOphonic. Polyphonic is multiple notes at a time.

There are 2 different software. Is not possibile to compare.

I have both and still use both despite having the goal of leaving Reason altogether. Over time, I get better with Ableton so there might come a time when I drop Reason. That said, I still use Logic as the main DAW to bring things in to mix. It too has lots of built in capabilities though I don't like the GUI at all.

Ableton is better for workflow but it depends on what you prefer as DAWs are relatively subjective. I've heard people make sick tracks in LMMS even, so it's about your knowledge of the daw and how to get around.

Great comparison Julie 👍

Crazy great explanation!

i like using reason in live

Was trying to find a comment/question a while back on your channel can't find it but have major issue now as a total non-professional / amateur acoustic tinkerer trying to learn the fine arts of DAW music production for my own songs and music I paid $1 for a reason plus for one month not intending to keep it forever as I don't believe in renting software however I have been drawn to the instruments of reason 12 for a week or so I can't get myself off the laptop even though I'm not producing any songs or beats I'm just finding my way around and I am just totally immersed in the fabulous sounds of these instruments and from what I gather most people do not like reason studios but there's just something to me about the sounds they are just totally different and I find them exciting from a possibility point of view of what could be done with the instruments but now I have a dilemma as there is a Black Friday sale for $270 US dollars for reason 12 and that is an upgrade from my Reason 12 LITE and it's not a good time of year to be spending money and I wanted to pay a little bit more to upgrade native instruments komplete 13 ultimate to 14 for 399 US dollars but that will be cut 50% at the new year even though I am just a newbie but this reason 12 I don't know why so many people are trashing it but maybe it's because I'm not a professional maybe it's because I haven't produced any of my own songs or beats but I'm just blown away and just totally immersed in the instruments and just everything I've reason 12 and I bought FL studio and bitwig last year and a few others but I've never been so drawn to the particular sounds of a DAW like this reason 12 I don't know what it is it's just magic I find them so exciting the possibility in my mind of what I could do with all these sounds like a kid in a candy shop and I'm thinking to myself do I just rent for another couple of months at 20 bucks US or do I buy the full version of reason 12 but then again as far as I know you don't get the friktion instruments and things like that of which are just totally awesome so I'm in a bit of a dilemma and I know that you can't tell me what to do but I was hoping you could wave a magic wand lol ... The reason I have been slacking is because I have a home Enterprise in fashion design of which brings in the money but my heart and soul is in music but I need to do the designing but I find it monotonous and yet I don't get a dime from music and I just want to tinker around with reason 12 all day everyday but obviously I can't so I really really need to concentrate on time management between financial job and budding music production hobby possibly more. I haven't seen anybody else that has been immersed and excited by reason 12 instruments and sounds so maybe it's just me as I've never lived life inside a stereotypical box LOL anyway I just needed to touch base. I might as well as this question not that it applies to me at the moment but can you use the music packs of reason 12 sorry the sound packs can you use them in commercial projects and get revenue with them or are they restricted ? But anyway I must be the only person in the universe who is blown away with the instruments of reason 12 particularly things like friktion and believe it or not grain sample manipulator ? I've got this weird stuff going on in my head that I could do with all these sounds and Europa and many others I don't know what it is but they're just fabulous so ... Reason plus for a few more months till I've got some more money or splash out on the Black Friday sale $279 US dollars and then I'll have to buy the friktion and others LE SIGH :) I'm like a magpie in a candy shop but hey I don't have any other vices anymore old age strikes anyway have a fantastic week

I track in Reason so I can tweak tuning, and timing on the go. I'm starting to mix more in Reaper because the Reason rack gets stupid clunky in large sessions and Reaper is much leaner and faster at comping and chopping clips.

Ableton feels like an incredibly precise and powerful handmade screwdriver, and reason feels like a hot pink power drill with flames and lightning on the side of it.

Which is Better?

Polyphonic means producing many sounds simultaneously; many-voiced You were talking about monophonic.

When I first tried to make beats in 2008 I downloaded Reason and FL Studio, Reason was terrible confusing to me so I played around a bit with FL Studio. When I finally got serious about making music I bought FL Studio.

i like ReasonStudios Physical Modelling Drums in Kong!

Thank you !!! So precise

An ideal DAW would have reason's look and feel with Live's functionality

Excellent Presentation

There is no BEST daw, its only the matter of taste and what works for YOU :)

VEry sound advice,Thanks! On another note,Question or statement aside here: If one is using great instruments and or sound modules in the first place and posseess true either talent or capacity,then why confuse one's self with So many options? Oh I understand,the software packages are all incentivised but still. Well thanks very to the points comparisons..

if you mixed them together its would wipe out every other daw . im a old user and came from fairlight cmi and synclaver, ppg days. Reason is the winner in production but Live is the best live performers choice.

Reason hurry up add VST 3 and midi routing. They need to add note change on the Redrum, Mimics needs to follow tempo and chop with notes, and update the sequencer and piano roll.

*picks up popcorn enjoyingly*

ABleton. But i use reason as a plugin when I want to use reason devices or synths. I've been using them both from the beginning and this was before reason really had Daw features. When they added them I was already entrenched in ableton and even though I tried to work with Reasons daw it just wasn't for me. I used to also rewire everything to work with both back in the day. It was always fidley. thankfully its no longer a thing. I can just open Reason in Ableton.

Great Piece!!!!!

Why chose one, when can have both?

I'm super comfortable with Reason, but if they don't provide VST3 support really soon, I'm going to move on to a different DAW.

I use both but one thing that pisses me off about Ableton is that it grabs all the pc sound outputs for itself. Regardless of sample rate used When using reason I can play videos and other music files locally or from browser I.e youtube without any bother. With Ableton nothing but Ableton will play until I close Ableton.

i've spent a fortune on reason perpetual plus many K's of REs and I want to try ableton but only have the LITE version and there comes a time after shelling out 10K ish over 5 years where one says DO I GO TO THE DARK SIDE for the remainder of software to revolutionize the cost of it all ? i mean, ableton suite is 809 USD and for a NON pro that's a few months spending dosh .... Maybe I should EXPAND what I already have but just wanted to try ableton but the price of all this is insane, there comes a time when that R2R devil on your shoulder whispers DO IT, DO IT LOL, I'm Legal Beagle, SO FAR, but the dark side of software calleth. PS, You are ONE COOL LADY !!! LOVE YOUR VIBRANCY, ATTITUDE "AND" MUSIC WHICH SURPRISED ME but it's INSPIRATIONAL

well articulated

Great comparison. At 6:58 there is a major error. Whats the fix?😊

Is there really any question which daw is better? Its obviously ableton, with the fact that with some mathmatics you can create any instrument you could ever dream of with the stock instruments effects and max for live. There is a reason the top of the line private music schools are ableton oriented. Its the best daw hands down for producing electronic music, the only thing that comes close is pro tools but mainly for cinematic reasons.

No VST3 support is the main thing stopping me from upgrading to Reason 12. I hate to have to learn a new DAW but Reason is leaving me no choice.

Bitwig 🔥🔥 Vs Ableton 🤧🤧

In Ableton i can click on any piece of audio in the sequencer and it will tell me where to find that audio in its folder location, I cant do this in Reason, also in Reason the audio doesnt even get assigned its name by default, you have to actually type into every audio clip in the sequencer its name ! Imagine if you have 50 different pieces of Audio in a mix, you are having to manually type in 50 times the audios name, this seems like a real pain in the ass.

Love reason 12 but live is soo well made. Best to use both

dope

vst3 incomin in Reason (next update in Reason+ sincer its in beta)

Reason for me is the one it's just going to get better and better ... vst3 will happen in 2023

Reason is a great DAW. But I’m baffled that it doesn’t have vst3 in 3rd quarter of 2022. The program cost $500 without vst3. While Ableton live gets better with every update. I just upgraded to suite and I find myself opening reason less these days. Started with FL so it’ll always be installed on my machines

you're great!

how are you collapsing the reason mixer?