Finally, a job creation program we can all get behind.

I thought discussion was going to be about the letter of the law vs. spirit, a deep discussion about textualism. Disappointing.

@@theBear89451 "shall not be infringed" (ATF can't create laws) ...you're welcome.

@@C-Mack I wonder why it is so difficult for certain people to understand that. Can they not comprehend simple written words?

@@j29maniac unfortunately, they do comprehend the words but their un-American values go against the words so they struggle with the mental gymnastics.

Yes you are right

Historical restrictions on weapons. Bruen was a terrible ruling.

@@Talon19 All the gun restrictions were to keep Catholics , blacks or later Italians (nyc) from having guns . Prove me wrong with a case .

@@josephpadula2283 Boston city laws in the late 1700s prohibiting concealed carry, prohibiting carry in bars, prohibiting drunkards from carrying firearms, prohibiting violent people from carrying firearms.

TV reporters are often just parrots of the text on the prompter. They don't know what they are even saying.

You should hear Justice Brown during the oral arguments for this....the lack of even basic understanding how guns and ammo work is astounding.

There's no shame in not understanding trigger mechanisms, as long they understand "shall not be infringed..."

@@MicahThomason Sic semper tyrannis!

Aren’t they?

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Well we are not and we can get all the crazy guns we want and we will still be extremely outmatched 😂

@@jessicacarlin7477 true..but im ok with that. As long as our rights arent infringed

So nukes?

@@murrethmedia Yes, absolutely nukes‼

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@@CaptainBeardsomethey are absolutely a blast on the range. But they’re very expensive to feed.

Also, the president should not be able to order law enforcement agencies to ignore the law as soon as it's politically convenient. That's exactly what Trump's bump stock executive order did.

It’s a catch 22. EITHER bump stocks are “firearms” and can therefore be regulated by the ATF. OR Bump stocks are not firearms and are not protected by the 2A.

@@Talon19 The 2A does not make it about firearms, it is about all arms. Knives, pistols , rifles, muskets, canons, grenades, bricks, sticks, hammers, crowbars, screwdrivers, etc.

Don't forget the shoelace machine gun!

A bumpinator can be made from a T6 in an hour. A string is far more effective and takes 10 seconds. Full time converting striker systems is also about a 5 minute job. Bottom line is it was all about going after far more real world useful semis. Anybody who thinks otherwise simply doesn't understand how they work.

She can't identify a woman either, so it makes sense.

Forgive the vagueness, trying to get through. Bumps don't cycle at 600 rpm on the stoner platform, they cycle at 700. And acoustic analysis showed multiple placements hundreds of yards apart. This is conclusive science. Their story is definitively fictional.

@@RexApplegate Who did that acoustic analysis? Are the results publicly available?

@@rucker69 Mike Adams. The video he did on it shouldn't be too hard to find. And it'd be nothing difficult to do again. It's a simple matter of impact time to report time and the consideration of what the air speed could be. Even factoring different sizes and weights at different distances, it's a simple thing that doesn't involve guesswork. Multiple locations quite far apart is shown to be a fact.

@@RexApplegate Except ballistic analysis shows all impact points originating from the same point. Source: FBI report on Las Vegas active shooting

@@Talon19 the FBI to my knowledge has never accounted for the points I raised with any form of evidence or even a statement, and along with other criteria that stink of a cover up but aren't as conclusive, as well as what they used it to push, I am outright accusing them of lying. Show me ballistics comparisons to slugs pulled out of people, show me the rifles in question operating at 600 rpm with those mags and ammo, show me how one phone recording could account for the speed of sound being defied, and then I'll believe it.

Take my money!!!

Revolvers are semiautomatic...

Duh, a firearm shot on school property or school event is a school shooting.

The simple answer is the US has a disproportionate amount of casualties caused by firearms.

@@Talon19 And other countries have a disproportionate amount of casualties from every other item that can be used to cause harm. Hurr Durrr

@@bobsmith6544 Nope. The US still has higher rates of violent crime and property crime.

Seems perfectly in line with Fox News.

These agencies have to create regulations so they can enforce legislation. Think, McFly, think!

@@Talon19 The regulations have to fit into the law that was passed by the legislature. Think, Talon, think!

@@jdilksjr That’s the point of agencies interpreting the legislation.

I'm sure you could take a Milwaukee M18 battery and modify an angle grinder and, boom! Bob's ya uncle!

working with a chainsaw is 50% sawing and 50% maintenance

The chainsaw bayonet does exist. It's just that it's ridiculous, so nobody buys them as anything more than novelty toys. Kinda like bumpstocks.

As someone who occasionally shoots guns they sound absolutely stupid to me.

The Duke of Amber is annoyed.

It’s a catch 22. EITHER bump stocks are “firearms” and can therefore be regulated by the ATF. OR Bump stocks are not firearms and are not protected by the 2A.

@@Talon19 Wrong. Repeating yourself does not make it right. All weapons and their accessories are protected by the 2A.

@@jdilksjr You have the same problem: either general legislation can restrict bump stocks because they are NOT arms, or they are arms and can be regulated by the ATF.

@@jdilksjr You are also ignoring longstanding traditions of flat out banning some arms. Your fantasy doesn’t trump reality.

@@Talon19 so Congress can't ban guns but they can ban gun barrels, triggers, stocks, slides, firing pins, receivers, magazines and bullets... Because those aren't guns... That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard. it's impossible to own a gun without any one of those components. A stock is an essential part of a rifle. If you don't have a stock, you can't have a rifle.

Only if you're honest...

I still think an M240B was used based on the audio I heard from footage on the scene...

Utah's right there with you. The whole state is armed to the teeth and there are fewer murders in the entire state each year than take place in the city of Chicago.

Five seconds of searching shows you are wrong.

@@Talon19 Five more seconds shows that he is right.

This is incorrect. Bump stocks are there to kind of simulate automatic fire. You can add padding to any rifle stock without using a bump stock.

Do you mean, "Suave?"

Right of the PEOPLE.

what is the point of this comment?

@@rucker69 Mostly to piss you off.

Government regulated

​@@Talon19not.

Nope, he was saddled with a RINO congress.

@@jdilksjr Getting congress to pass a bump stock ban would have been a no brainer. Both sides would have passed. He didn’t even try. Leadership is about getting followers. Not just from those that agree with you. He’s winning people over now that he’s providing solutions to immigration.

@@lazorwolf5055 by that logic you can take a linear actuator that move back and forth and attach it to the trigger. Flip a switch and it moves back and forth 6 times a second. Still a semi auto? Or does the on switch become the deFacto trigger?

@@lazorwolf5055 “single function of the trigger” is what it’s based on. Just because you use a different part of the firearm as the “trigger” (in the case of bumpstocks the frame of the firearm itself is the de facto trigger) doesn’t mean the law doesn’t apply. A single continuous push of the frame causes a continuous firing of rounds.

you sure you don't mean pistol braces?

Yeah, you have to pull the gun away from your shoulder to use a bump stock. The recoil pushes it back to where the trigger resets, and a spring in the stock pushes it forward again to where the trigger gets pressed by your unmoved finger again

​@@mrt1426Both were similarly intended.

@@matthewshannon6946 Nope. You are both idiots. Please stop typing.

You are mistaking bump stocks with pistol braces. Please get an education. Thanks‼

You must be a bot. You keep posting the same stupid statement. The 2A protects everything that can be used as a weapon, it is not about firearms. It is about "arms".

@@jdilksjr Yet you still don’t seem to understand that regardless, government can regulate bump stocks.

What did they get wrong? I would like to educate myself.

They do not function/repeat as fast as a fully automatic weapon. They are fast, but not that fast.

You state your an avid defender of the Second Amendment but the rest of your statement concludes that that is not the case because if you actually understood the point of the Second Amendment it would be known that the right of the people is to maintain the same level of arms as the government to keep them in check.

@@pasqualezarro5216 I understand that - I want to own all the cool toys that I can afford. My comment was really that given the law bans automatic weapons, arguing over what makes something behave as fully automatic seems like a semantic argument. It could be a cotter pin or a bump stock - the results are the same.

@@corey6393 I saw like 3 videos yesterday that showed how fast a bump stock equiped weapon fires. It was as fast as my M16, or close enough not to matter.

Maybe they can work faster with a more experienced user, but in my experience, they are visibly and audibly slower than any full auto rifle I have heard.

Your egregious spelling aside, what NBC is engaging in here is disinformation. They're falsely associating unrelated events to push a specific narrative.

It is criticized because it is a lie. Lying is not debating.

Not in California

US band? Are you typing about the military bands. 😂 I can read.

It's effectively a ban because not only do you need the stamp, you can only buy machine guns made before the 1986 ban. Because of that enforced rarity an automatic AR-15 will run you around $40,000 dollars if not more. You can look at the prices online. An AR-15 can be had for as little as $500. Making one automatic costs next to nothing so the automatic version should cost about the same. Adding a extra $39,500 on top of the purchase price of something is effectively a ban. (It's basically an up charge equal to the cost of a Toyota Corolla.) 2) That $200 tax stamp is only considered low because of inflation. It was equal to $4,518.98 in today's money when it was passed. The average work wage was $0.45/hr meaning you'd need 11.11 months of wages to pay that tax then. A tax that high on something effectively a ban as well.

​@DanielBuhler the law will be overriden by the SCOTUS ruling.

​@@DanielBuhlerSCOTUS has sent it to Congress to decide. That federal decision will override any state law.