How does the pinned comment have zero replies?

@@NoombatIsMecause it's a relatively new comment and hasn't been seen by as many people. also, there's nothing to add. which is proven by your only response to be "why no comments" instead of something about the actual comment

The kingdom was also an island, so tangletown doesn't even make sense

@@summeryick5641 EXACTLY

They do have the kingdom of Corona on the map, but I seriously have no idea what Tangleton is. Plus the map is kinda ridiculous and doesn't really make sense. (Though I doubt it was actually supposed to be looked over-)

@nnioopnnioop2474 look up "descendants map" there's a "kingdom of Corona" and "tangleton" they're references to other movies

@@nnioopnnioop2474 Yuppers

*cough* Australia *cough*

Australia can perform necromancy????????

@@julien4305Thats what the kangaroos are for

Being a cute franchise with dark and mature lore undertones is part of what makes it so good

Tbf, it's not like if those villains didn't deserve it. The kids on the other hand DID NOT. And I'm much more preocupied with stuff like imprisoning Monstro or, let's see what was it? Ah yes, the FRICKIN GOD OF THE UNDERWORLD!!!

and shouldn't the beast of all people know not to judge others like that?? shouldn't belle?????

@@grrrlknight the enchantress that cursed him needs to get his ass again

Hmm yeah super weird concept never before seen in real life

@@thefudgemslisten most irl concepts weren't made by ex-cursed princes who learned a 10 year long traumatizing lesson as a mutant to not judge a book by its cover. Maybe real life needs more witches furryfying narcissistic leaders. but the Beast definitely needs a second go into the singing Ikea trip

@@queenofeverything4004 LMFAO fair very fair 😭🤣

Real

iconic trophy husband, that prince

He already liked her the spell just amplified feelings that already existed

@@madnessarcade7447 Even so, why is he not at all concerned about the fact that she is apparently willing to mind-control people into dating her. This should concern him lol

@@mrsnatural2368because he already liked her also they were destined The prequel books addressed it

Once I learned of it I immediately jumped to uma team which she had a point the entire time and was looking out for the isle while Mal was the opposite remind me why did we keep rooting for Mal after the first movie

RIIGHTT

You forgot the to lovers part/hj

@@elfi643 i did. in fact forget it not joking

LITERALLY OH MY GOD

Shit else to do I guess

Probably on accident lmao

you presume they did it on purpose

They have to do something 😂

To be fair what else did they have to do?

She’s actually bisexual :D also descendants gave me a gigantic crush on her when I was younger lol

@@saphire1sababy378they just said what the colors were. Never said she wasnt lmao

@@Tw0Dots I know I just thought I’d give them a cool peice of info lol

@@saphire1sababy378 its cool 👍 Have a nice day/night

​@@Tw0DotsJust some info for people who didn't know. 😁 I didn't.

That’s what happens when you limit and half ass creativity 🤦🏾‍♂️ it could’ve been waaaaaaaaay better and more detailed and designed so much better with better explanations and plot but no

There is an ever expansive lore It’s not “worse” it’s completely different outside of surface level similarities Read the books sometimes

@@juliusweaver3198the explanations are in the books because the movies didn’t have time to explain everything

@@juliusweaver3198it’s actually very creative

@@juliusweaver3198it’s not half assed u just don’t pay attention to lore

Trust me, watching these movies as an Aussie is...interesting.

Coloniser energy. I didn't even notice the acronym

shouldve been called the united kingdoms (of auradon)

That's what I was thinking.

😭😭

Thanks Mal

Mal invented yassification

I'm usually not a fan of girls getting "glow ups" in movies but in descendents...I think it was for the greater good.

PLEASE @@user-uq8gi8oo6i

Dude should’ve been a Dalmatian imo🐶🤷🏾 I would’ve loved to see Cruella lose the little sanity she had left during that video call they had with their parents 😂

​@@juliusweaver3198 now that you mention it, yeah, it was such a missed opportunity. And also the most obvious route they could have gone, so no idea why they didn't

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iant he also in the healing powers of dude? idk i could be wrong but

My 21st century Chinese mom doesn’t even make chocolate chip cookies, why would dynastic Mulan be baking them 😭😭

This is what I thought when I first watched the movie and I was literally EIGHT YEARS OLD and thinking “what?? why would she be doing that??” I took it serious 💀

Well, Mulan does regularly go against the norm so it does kind of make sense🤷🏾‍♀️

she got colonized smh /s

Feel like Shang would be more likely to bake her cookies tbh.

Omg fantastic

disney try not to rip off EAH challenge: impossible

THEYRE LESBIANS HAROLD

I need to reread that book because I forgot about that

@@zaddyfaye6880 dragon games (the ep where darling kisses apple) came out after the isle of the lost (the first descendants book), so this isn’t actually the case here

I agree with you. This isn't my personal experience, but I definitely know girls who were subtly (and sometimes not-so-subtly) told by their parents that their looks were what mattered the most. Given that the Evil Queen not only prioritizes appearance to a fault, but probably also married into wealth and power on the basis of her looks, she definitely would teach her daughters that beauty is the most and only important thing. I've seen situations where a really beautiful but superficial mother has a daughter who is less beautiful and/or cares way less about her looks. It gets especially ugly (no pun intended) when the mother puts down her daughter's talents and interests because she thinks those things are less important, and can't fathom her daughter being genuinely interested in them.

I just wish that Disney spent money on beautiful wigs for this character.

Also Evie and Doug had a better relationship than Mal and Ben…..just felt like adding that in.

@@junyuyang5973kökp

Agreed, i loved their relationship. I also love the fan theory that Jay is actually Jasmine and Aladdin's son that Jafar stole and raised as a villian, which is why hes good at physical stuff, and not at magic like Jafar. Its like the.writers have NEVER seen Aladdin​@starrsmith3810

Maybe the king, made a deal. If they raise the kids themselves the kids can't leave but if they're given up to the king as babies, they can come and go once they're old enough. But the villains wanted servants to help them escape so they didn't release em But I'm just guessing

​​@@dandywaysofliving "give your children to the state or they'll be imprisoned with you forever" would be even WORSE subtext

Also wasn’t Belle partly judged by her town because of her father????? Literally why would she even be okay with that????

​@@starrsmith3810 you're right! So Disney somehow picked two of the WORST characters to do this, incredible

@@starrsmith3810 ok with what and she’s judged for being different for daring to want more

Dude i think about this every time I've watched the 3rd movie. And not only that but they butchered his character too. The hades in descendents shares almost none of the same personality as the original and I feel like it consistently happened.

Because he grew

Also the fact that Hades is her dad in the first place 🤮🤮🤮🤮 yucky

​@@demetriam2408The fact that Hades is even in a Disney movie and is portrayed as a villain is bad enough

@@makp8101oo

And really, what was the point? At least most of these villains were dead so they couldn't do further harm but resurrecting them just to put them into a prison is a terrible idea and will just piss them off more. And when the barrier breaks (or drops), those villains will want revenge.

I always think about what you both said like why and my biggest question is who met who and decided all this and what was the price for it ESPECIALLY raising the dead Genie was specifically detailed about how it wasn’t pretty doing that and magically gave a gruesome example of it looked when laying down the rules to Aladdin…

​@@juliusweaver3198especially with some of the more magically inclined villains. Shadow Man was dragged to hell, Horned King was completely eviscerated, Hades was dragged into the depths of the underworld, Evil Queen was destroyed by falling off a cliff due to lightning, and Gaston fell into a massive ravine. Who has the power to ressurect these villains, why would they, and how does puting them in an eternal purgatory fix anything???

I honestly feel like they were better off just retconning the villain’s deaths in these movies. like these movies already bend the canon of every movie featured in it, what’s stopping them from just saying the villains were only imprisoned or something

Ikr I was going to joke like “what war, Lonnie? when exactly was this war? who were the opposing sides? you’re being awfully vague”

@@sarah_serif upon checking the descendants wiki, it lists that lonnie's home region was "formed out of china" ???? no source on it, no clue where they're getting that from. could find nothing on the wiki about france...

Yeah + it is weird to me that of all people, they chose as rulers the ones who has a story about redemption. You'd think that someone who has been cursed for being selfish and then has to learn to not be selfish to find true love and break the curse... would recognize that people are not born evil and that everybody can be or become good, right? And won't base his entire politics on the idea thay it is not the case?

It might be to incorporate Ben's beast side as a dichotomy because he's a "monster". Did they ever explain why Adam's "beast" is genetically passed down to Ben, because Adam was born human and cursed into the beast???

@@summeryick5641 never asked it to myself but now I have a theory and that will be my headcanon. Ben was conceived when Adam was still a beast. And I will keep the joke that comes to my mind in case children are reading.

It's because she dyed her hair, but wanted to keep a little of her identity so she left the tips purple.

is she meant to be naturally purple-haired? legit asking, idk. I assumed the implication was that Mal normally keeps her hair purple dyed, and so the ends are because she’s been growing out naturally blonde hair. I’ve thought too much about this now

@thatlycantomboy yes she is meant to be naturally purple, just like Evie is naturally blue. But to show that she's changed and to conform to the "princess way," she dyed it white and kept the tips purple to have a little part of who she was before Ben.

​@@tealhiidi don't think she's meant to be naturally purple or evie is naturally blue though. in the second movie mal mentioned that dizzy was the one who initially dyed evies hair on the isle, and in the third movie they both have visible roots. im not 100% sure on this though if it was stated otherwise

I just thought of it as Mal bleached her roots as well and kept the roots purple. Once it grows more it’d be purple roots if that makes since

I had such a huge crush on both

that's so cute, mal is very pretty but uma had a good heart throughout all she wanted was a better life for the ppl on the isle ! i got a dog last year and i named her Uma cos she's a queen and still in my heart ! @@micahmosse3876

@RiniDiamandis me too. Still love that character because she actually wanted to free everybody and wasn't selfish like Mal . I really don't like Mal.

No. No, she wasn’t.

The Descendent’s class traitors fr Uma way more interesting and compelling protagonist

Never thought about it like that.

I'm pretty sure that question is literally why Aladdin isn't in the movies. Like, he is undeniably the hero in his story, but he's also doing something illegal (and illegal=bad since it's a children's series), so I think they just kind of sidestepped that issue by making Jafar's son embody Aladdin's bad traits (briefly) and just not mentioning the rest of the movie.

I had the same thoughts about the Wicked Stepsisters. Like sure the stepmother is guilty of child abuse but at most the stepsisters were just bad people. is being a bitch illegal? Cinderella's whole thing was being kind and humble what were her thoughts on the matter?

most of the other villains were in stories where the main character either is or becomes royalty, so im imagining its rich powerful people doing awful things to be petty but cruella makes no sense?? like who even told belle and the beast that she existed?? one of the dogs???

@@adivorcee2357 Or Hook and Gaston - Gaston is literally just a himbo incel who tried. I bet when someone would have just smacked his mind into the right place he would be a great man.

Don't forget his son becoming king (not president) at 16. Who voted for that?

O.M.G Yes!!! You know he only crowned Ben at 16 because he was getting pushed to step down and he wanted to keep the power in the family and within arms reach.

I really think given all that, that the words "got himself elected king" were picked very carefully (the writing of these series is a complete mess, but I feel like at least the real world parallel and the way it's explained in story were intentional and thought out). No one elected this man, he elected himself fr

Didn't fully watch the series, but I suspected the kids staying on the island being the parents fault not so much the king. . Like the king probably asked if they wanted to release em but they would be raised by someone else but if they raise em themselves they can't leave

@@dandywaysofliving You just can’t leave newborns on a prison island though? Even if the parents say that it’s fine and cool, _your_ the king, you are in charge, leaving the children in an open air prison and then pushing back and getting nervous when they get introduced to society for the first time is being a bad ruler. Also, if they have behavior issues and commit crimes, that’s kind of partially your fault since you left them with no way of contacting the outside world and no other influence and authority figures then the criminals you deemed evil and enough of a problem to bring back to life and trap them in the worlds most secure prison with no guards from birth to experience lifelong abuse and extreme poverty and then expect them to come out of that with outstanding morals? He fully created the problems he and the rest of that kingdom are currently experiencing and left it for a sixteen year old who still answers to his parents to fix for an entire country.

I read somewhere that they had to scrap a bunch of the ending because of Cameron's death. (Though I could be wrong.)

disney, of all companies, accidentaly creating a great allegory for how we treat native people in ex colonized countries (and minorities in our own countries) will never not be funny to me. because that's how it works right? speaking from my european prespective, we act all high and mighty, while actively harming the countries we say are third world. and those countries are that way now due to the way we fucked them up during the colonization times. we act like we're civilized and they're barbaric, when we're the ones using them for modern slavery, profiting off of child labour and exploiting all their resources. we do all this while portraying ourselves as the heroes who will eventually save those coutries, as long as they assimilate perfectly to our culture and leave anything related to their culture and ethnicity behind, of course.

​@momomomo__ It's good to see a fellow sane and non-delusional person. Those are rare in discussions of politics.

Lonnie DOES NOT “act shallow”??

Honestly it’s surprising that he didn’t get cursed AGAIN after this

@@whatamidoing8566THATS WHY I KEEP ASKING WHERE THE HELL IS THE ENCHANTRESS WHERES CIRCE 😭😭😭😭 even if it was for 5 seconds she played an important part in both their stories so they really think we’re supposed to believe she would let any of this bs slide auradon as a whole SHOULDVE been cursed heavily with the fuckery they were on part of me have this odd feeling she got locked in the isle with the villains

@@juliusweaver3198 Beast was misguided he wasn’t evil he was flawed but he was always open minded and always came around at the end of the day he never hated the VKs even if he was hesitant

U should

@@juliusweaver3198 That would make so much sense and bring up so many questions. Circe is a Greek deity, just like Hades. That would mean that Fairy Godmother is either canonically stronger than *two* separate gods or got help from someone who is. Who would that be?

Me realising that my childhood glorified imperialism

Wait, does this mean that The Confederacy was conquered by the Union in the American Civil War?...and yes, I DO want citions.

@@benya14-bo5rx this is written as if you dont understand that that IS what happened. maybe im crazy

Except she didn’t. All she did was steal the scepter and do some small things (turn mal into a hag, and turn people to stone, which was easily reversed). You’re forgetting that Mal stole her boyfriend, it’s only right to seek for revenge

“Well I guess people still actually like Mr. Nomura’s wild ride, so I guess we can try that again.” Some Disney executive somewhere

holy shit omg 😭😭

this is how i find out that the author of black butler made essentially an otome game with disney

@@_msayon You're welcome!

At the very least, Twisted Wonderland has better character design lmao

What happened to him?

@@tell-me-a-story- He died in his sleep due to Epilepsy.

The TikTok account is recently become active again and said something will be coming soon!

​@@snissa2515AHHHHH!!!!

​@@snissa2515EAH FANS STAY WINNING

Well Mattel had lost the rights to make the Disney princess dolls because of that dispute and they wanted that Disney money.

Oh hell yes if descendants werent movies and instead hour long tv shows on ABC or something i can 100% see that

yeahhh. :/

Once upon a time season 1 was awesome if you forget all the other seasons

​@annoyingbookgirl4916 season 2 was pretty good too.

Once upon a time is arguably just as good as EAH though. It just gets not as good after the first two season

@@aurorachanel4502 It really degraded after they introduced Arendelle to the show. I think it should've ended in season 3.

Well, in fairness, maybe they outlawed child abuse AND have a "Punish-The-Family- For-One-Persons-Crime" type thing? Seems on-brand given the whole prison island thing.

Jay and Gil's ship name is quite literally Gay, so therefore they are meant to be

I ship Gay so much and I'm not even invested in these movies

They both take unique approaches it’s not a competition they aren’t at all alike

N​​⁠o it was because they got greedy and rushed the manufacturing Y’all are too blinded by your hate for descendants you can’t even see the truth Also y’all don’t understand how ideas happen descendants was being planned way before ever after high was out or even a thing Lmao do some research before making assumptions and also Disney didn’t even come up with the idea of descendants it was Melissa de la cruz They didn’t even want to do it at first Descendants was created by Melissa de La cruz and she pitched the idea to Disney They didn’t even want to do descendants at first they had to be persuaded by Melissa de la cruz *Descendants star Dove Cameron and author Melissa de la Cruz sat down for an in-depth interview about the series and explained just how everything works together. "I was informed very early on...by the head of Disney Channel, Gary Marsh, that the reason this project has taken so long was because Disney Corporate had to approve of somebody officially embellishing on the original stories, because that is what we're doing," Dove explained. "Anything else, like Once Upon a Time, hasn't actually been an official embellishment on the story," she continued, "We. Are. Canon." Descendants was actually the first time Disney was officially touching the classic tales of their movies. (By touching they mean continuing the continuity remakes don’t count) "That's why it took so long, because apparently, Disney corporate was like 'That's a terrible idea, we don't want to mess with the original stuff.' And so [Gary] told me that. He was like, 'This is the first time that this is ever going to happen.'" Dove adds, "Disney Channel is it's own thing, it's own beast, so to be told you're involved in the classics is like, there's nothing more delicious than that. I think that's why we're all so invested in the series and the franchise itself because it's the first time!" "It's the deepest honor, so for me, it was less nerve-wracking and the most delicious opportunity."*

​​@@madnessarcade7447why is this written as though you're replying to different comments? Edit: Learned why, every one of their comments is copy and pasted, block for spam

@@madnessarcade7447calm down

@@madnessarcade7447bro stfu. Ur under like ever comment that criticizes the movie 💀

ong 💀

Omg yes some of the songs are just so damn catchy... And the outfits! There's so many good f****** outfits.

The plots are bad but so many of the songs are actually super catchy and fun.

it's camp and nobody can't change my mind. It makes me really happy

sure, but in the storied Disney canon he’s an outright villain, however. Y’know, that’s the Hades hat soul-enslaves Meg, tries to merc Herc? …honestly pretty surprised that Disney recognized 1999’s Hercules at all in these movies

@@thatlycantomboy well yeah lol I just find it interesting

Disney heroes: "We'll put Hades on a prison island from which he can't escape :)" Hades, on Disneyland Alcatraz: "Ok, well, enjoy having the souls of the damned wander the earth since no one's guarding the Underworld, *fuckos* :)"

@@OhNoBohNohuh maybe thats why all those dead villains came back to life and were imprisoned on the isle, itd be a better idea than purposefully ressurecting them just to lock them up

Some of the villains aren't even real villains to Like Gaston? Yeah, he is a mysoginistic asshole, but based on the time it takes place and that he thought that it would be something every woman wants/needs he seems just like - a bit to rude. Not more

I def peeped that too ngl I was like is this the same voodoo doctor was Freddy told us about or did I misheard her…. What gets me is wicked world is canon between movies yet the other characters were never acknowledged or mentioned Freddy Jordan Zevon Ali Cj hook and Rapunzel daughter who hair was only shown briefly like twice

Speaking of which, how did they get Dr. Facilier back of all people? How weak do they think contractual voodoo magic is?

Omg I never thought about that

Lol I didn’t know that the decendants universe canonically crossed into other Disney universes

Dose that mean that Disney fairytale movies are just history documentaries?

"you don't vote for kings"

LMAOO

THIS IS WILDDDD

She didn't even need fillers or anything. She was already incredibly beautiful. I remember seeing her in some snow sport movie long before Descendants and thought "Wow! She looks like an angel come to life!" I suppose it says a lot about the industry or humanity that even someone as naturally stunning as Dove has things they're insecure about. It's sad, really, when there's plenty of young girls and mtf's that would love to look like Dove and Dove would apparently rather look like Kylie Jenner. Everyone is beautiful in their own unique way, the inner beauty is what matters most of all, and we really need to stop trying to fix what isn't broken and stop comparing ourselves to others. Would a rainbow be as beautiful if every color were the same?

It's her body and her choice. And besides, what does it matter if someone is getting filler or plastic surgery if it's for their own happiness and not someone else's.

​​@@michaelinthebathroom7560 I think there's reason to doubt that a popular teen actress at Disney got lip filler completely unpressured and of her own desire. The industry is rough as hell on young women.

I have a theory, but its definitely not a family friendly one. It rhymes with porridge and ends with a Y. Or possibly IES. Might explain why all the kids seem to be around the same age.

​@@gypsywoman9140 what.

​@@gypsywoman9140 orgy/orgies doesn't rhyme with porridge

​@@gypsywoman9140explain.

IKR I WAS MAD

I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST MY ME😭

My headphones have had some water damage and i thiught it was just that acting up 😅

I thought I was going nuts

I noticed too

Sometimes love is baking cookies. Sometimes it's saving the last cookie for someone, or at least splitting it in half to share. Sometimes there are no cookies and that in itself is a reason to be sad. I'm sure your parents do love you and I hope you have some cookies to enjoy

UGH YES 😭😭😭😭😭

Ben and Carlos would be really good! Carlos would fall in love with a "dog like" guy, which could've added more layers in their stories. Also, Carlos would've liked art and fashion and Ben would've been more into literature and stuff, to mirror their parents.

Thank you!! Honestly I thought everyone who subbed for mbmbam was gonna hate this so I really appreciate it

Yes! Raven was the first to refuse to go along with things and didn't want to be evil. Apple White being upset that Raven didn't want to poison her was lowkey hilarious. C.A Cupid's own love problems were intriguing. So on and so forth. Even the "mean" characters were shown to have a soft side; Duchess Swan was actually heart-wrenching when she explained why she didn't want to go along with things, much like Briar Rose's reasons but different. I wanted to see how their stories unfolded, to see if Cupid ever finds love for herself, and even the narrator family...they were so cute. The world of EAH was brilliantly done and perfectly fairy tale while bringing a whole new twist to it all.

That was my gosh-darn |Anthem| for almost a year. Love it!

uhmm im in highschool and i agree but also like no one wants to watch realistic teen shows they're fucking boring and we already know what that is like.

Lol you’re right, the intermissions were definitely inspired by QuintonReviews. I’m glad you liked it!

Pfft

Nah Evie n uma and the rest of the vks and aks need their shine

omg sorry you lit yourself on fire lol

The wand put the barrier there so its logical to assume the wand could take down the barrier

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