Thanks for the encouragement! Glad you found channel and appreciate you sharing!

Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secred text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim ( line of ismail )

@@theguyver4934 At best you could say they were pescatarian - but that too is unlikely. Jesus would have needed to eat the Passover lamb to keep the law. He also declared all foods to be clean and made no prohibitions on what could and could not be eaten. Being a follower of Christ is far less about what you don’t do and far more about what you do. Christ said that people would know His followers by our love. if you choose to extend that love to animals by not eating their flesh, that is acceptable. But it is not your place to put others under a law unless you yourself are to follow the law perfectly.

“God, right now, is in the process of creating that perfectly good universe.” Great stuff! Thanks for sharing!

It occurs that ECT represents the victory of suffering and annihilation the victory of death/ destruction. Only in restoration are salvation and life victorious.

Reading this, I’m thinking about my favourite bible teacher, who puts it Plainly, - GOD gave dominion to man, so in essence He willingly tied his hands to a degree, he cannot lie, so if he then would have taken away our free will & dominion, and start directing every move of our lives, He would be going back on his word of giving dominion to man. Hence, we are the hands and feet of the father here on earth. And Satan is a spirit, and needs a body to do his work, he deceives us, lies to us and enters doors we leave open through sin ( he seeks whom he can devour, and not all can be devoured) anyway, as man had dominion, Satan deceived man and stole dominion from man. He made Eve doubt what God had told Adam ( note Eve was not taken from Adam yet when God told him not to eat of the tree, so she heard it second hand, and therefore Adam was more at fault) . And right away Eve added to what God said, saying He said that even if she touched it she would die, God never said that. So once she touched it, and didn’t die, that confirmed in her mind what the enemy told her with his deceitful suggestion. This is why we should never ad or take away from what God says. So getting back to my original point, man gave away dominion given to him by God, and that’s why He (Jesus) had to come ,as a Man, to take dominion back here on earth from Satan, and unlike when God created everything in the beginning by His words, and there was no evil interference so it happened without delay, now it took 4000 years after the fall of mankind, to get enough people faithful enough to speak all the words ( prophecy) to speak Jesus into conception along with the Holy Spirit ( the word became flesh) , it took so long because now Satan was on the scene with stolen dominion, and therefore God couldn’t just speak Jesus into being here, it took many faithful bold people over 4000 years to bring this to completion. Satan roams about LIKE a roaring Lion, but he’s been declawed and defanged, satan doesn’t make us do anything, he lies to us, we listen and then we become satans vehicle for destruction , the ones whom he can devour, ones whom he can kill, steal and destroy, with strife, illness, all the bad things. We bring it on ourselves, Satan can do nothing without our consent and co-operation. Many ask Why God allows all these horrible things; he doesn’t. We have dominion, or had, gave it away, and that’s how Satan is the god of this world for now. Don’t get me wrong, God Is sovereign, but not in the way religion has made Him out to be. In religion, it’s like he can do what ever he wants, but he gave US dominion in this world at the beginning, it is written that he wants us all to be saved - born again, yet we are not, if he is sovereign as religion decided he is, we all would be. And another thing that always stumped me was Job. That God gave Satan permission to mess with Job, but not to kill him. And that job was a good man in Gods eyes, so why did those things happen to Him? Again, God didn’t condone this, but with satans stolen dominion here, God had to let him, I always wondered why this happened to Job, a righteous man, but he had a sin nature just like the rest of us were born with, and the door that Job opened to Satan was his with his fear, he was in fear daily about his children, and we are told 365 times in scripture DO NOT BE AFRAID, and he went against this clear command of God, it is sin to live in fear when God did not give us a spirit of fear ( Timothy) and that fear if not from God, is from the enemy, and that was the devils inroad to destroy Jobs life like he did. I prayed about an answer to the dilemma in my mind and I know many other peoples minds that I’d wondered about for a long time, and one day a year and a half ago, watching a message by an amazing bible teacher, not knowing the content of that message, 15 minutes in ( and 2 days after asking God to explain why this happened to Job) this bible teacher explained exactly this!! I was thrilled at having this prayer answered so quickly. I’d been a poor excuse of a Christian my whole life, and had just recently starting truly seeking the Lord, and then he was so gracious to give me this answer in two days from when I prayed for it! Anyway I know this comment is all very the place but I’m excited and hope this makes sense and blesses someone who reads it

Great stuff! I agree that the translation from the Greek has definitely contributed to the confusion.

Jesus will destroy Christianity with the other beasts of false religions

Same... People are disturbed by not being, able to lable. So when you say "I'm a Christian" you can almost see their relief. They can happily lable you as "idiot" and get on their day. Lolooll😊😊😊. I refer to myself as a Christian Realist. Totally screws their brain and hopefully provokes the Question "What do you mean"😊 All the best

@@broderickwallis25 wow im going to use that one, they will surely cast me into hell for it

@@broderickwallis25 I'm glad we're on the same page! I agree, it's a challenge to say the least in identifying ourselves in other ways that the majority doesn't for themselves. I think you're on the right track in offering alternate ways to consider things. I try to mix a little of that into most of my engagements. Best to you too:)

“And when he had found him, he brought him to Antioch. For a whole year they met with the church and taught a great many people. And in Antioch the disciples were first called Christians” Acts 11:26 So what exactly is your objection? Why not just take the same title we all have since the first century? What makes you so unique?

Thanks a bunch for the encouragement!

Nice, i will subscribe.

I’d love to research that view more. Do you have any resources you would recommend?

I don’t know if any. But you can read the Bible and the Fathers with this in mind. The closest to this idea would be to read papers on the “immanence” of Jesus coming and the destructions he will bring to this earth.

Apokatastasis

That totally denies that book a Daniel told you nice to miss him week till the tonight. Jacobs trouble. The bowls of wrath have not been poured out my friend. God bless us both and not matter you. But revelation has not the place where the deliverer is coming from. You have to discount Ezekiel, Zachariah. And I don't agree that jesis this in Jehovah are the only members of the Godhead.

Christ fulfilled the Law, the prophets and Psalms as His Father willed. Christ is victorious over sin, death and the grave. If you are looking at the physical world around you and believe Christ is physically returning to set up an earthly Kingdom, you are missing the nature of His coming and work.

I am not EO but greatly respect it. The name of the channel is in honor of Gregory Nyssen, as he was a universalist but also chosen to represent Orthodoxy at the First Council of Constantinople.

Thanks for the feedback! The name of the channel was actually chosen to honor Gregory Nyssen, who was viewed as a champion of orthodoxy by the bishops at the first Council of Constantinople. He was a clear universalist, yet he was embraced and endorsed widely in his time. I cover him in a bit more detail in the video, “Christian Universalism: Historical or Heretical.” I am not Orthodox myself but have great respect for those who are.

I've never met an orthodox who can even countenance universalism. Hopefully I just need to get out more. They love the fiery vengeance, perhaps for Catholics, who in turn love it for Protestants, who love it for everyone else.

Yes, interesting. While I hope and pray on certain matters, I try to stay sober minded with the scripture in proverbs, or eccl? "Time and unforseen occurrences befall us all"

Great question! The universalism of the early church fathers (the kind I defend) is completely christ centered. It is not an endorsement of other paths but a belief that one day all men will acknowledge Christ as the exclusive path.

@@orthodoxuniversalist so you do still believe in eternal conscious tour meant that involves the lake of fire but rather that all humans whether in heaven or hell will acknowledge him as lord?

@@orthodoxuniversalist because I don’t believe in a temporary hell or temporary lake of fire. I’ve heard many people say that the lake of fire was meant for refinement because it has brimstone or something to that regard. But I can’t find anywhere were those that are cast into the lake become saved after some time. However, I’ve heard also that the term of punishment in our English translation isn’t the same as the koine Greek. But until I find out further I’m going to believe what I know is true now in the since of traditionalist biblical doctrine.