Now £49.00 to swap a 13kg Butane bottle. Daylight robbery. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you. 👍❤😃

I worked in this industry for many years. You have demonstrated a lack of basic knowledge in the subject. The weight painted in the cylinder is the EMPTY WEIGHT OF THE CYLINDER, used by the company when refilling it. The employee refilling it at the depot enters this figure into the scales (like zeroing a kitchen scale with the container when weighing food) and that way they are able to make sure that the correct amount of gas is put in. It's a 47KG cylinder, which takes 47Kg - 96 litres - of gas. Still, at least your mistake results in your UNDERFILLING that particular cylinder. However, there are other, smaller cylinders where the empty weight is MORE than the capacity, and your advice could result in a fatal accident. Finally, not all cylinders are capable of withstanding the pressure of autogas, which is mainly propane. Some Spanish cylinders for example, are designed exclusively for butane which has a much lower pressure and there is a serious risk that they will rupture catastrophically in being filled with autogas because the walls are too thin... As someone else said, "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing"

In my teens in Australia I worked for a while in a service station we used to refill any size gas bottles... pretty well any service station could do this... never a problem.

The printed numbers on the gas canister represent the weight of the canister when it’s empty, when the canister is filled professionally it’s put on scales that have that weight entered into them and then the correct amount of liquid gas is put into the canister by the scales automatically turning off the supply when full by allowing for the canister weight.

Excellent video straight forward and to the point well done!

Brilliant video mate. Thank you for sharing and giving confidence and knowledge to do this

the best gas refill video in Europe. Thanks from Germany. Cool, clear instruction. Great business over 10 Years.Wonderful.

It starts off great. "this end goes on the gas bottle" "nope sorry, other end" Takes 8 inch Adjustable, wrench, wrench, wrench, grunt -wrench, "There that's hand tight".

Refilling propane tanks are normal thing here in California, most of us have a portable gas burning BBQ, so using propane tanks and refilling them is common, of coarse the gas station people must refill the tanks for safety reasons but nothing dangerous or out of ordinary.

Yeah LPG is approximately, Half the weight of water. E.g. in Australia a 45kg has bottle will take about 88 litres. With out any problems. Although I've seen people just fill the bottles until the auto gas bowser reaches is pressure max. And turn off automatically. ( just like filling a car) Thanks for the video!

Can you please confirm what difference it makes if say the bottle were half full? Do you simply open the bottle valve once the gun is connected??

I really appreciate you making this video. Cheers, man.

to John . Mitch - In Bulgaria Just drive up with your gas bottle stand it by the pump, the attendant comes say's how much, Then fills it to your requirements. Gas costs about 20p a litre. I had to refill my house hob bottle last year ( summer 2018 ) it cost me just over 10 lev £5 and will last me about 2 years. If you buy an empty or sell a gas bottle in Bulgaria the seller has to provide a pressure test certificate. The UK Prices at 69p a litre are a rip off even at the pump.

good on ya mate i been doing this for years i even made a video too lol hate being ripped off well done for spreading this and letting people know they can save huge amounts

I worked in pressure test services that tested, painted, reconditioned all calor gas& BOC bottles in Ireland. That writing on the bottle is the weight of the empty bottle! Not the amount of gas that's in it at all. So this is very dangerous info your giving out!!!!

What do you connect it to to heat your home and warm water?

I'm wondering about the blue 15kg butane Calor gas bottles, is there such an adaptor to be able to fill that at a petrol station? Like someone else already said, Calor are taking the pi$$ when it comes to pricing, assuming that you can actually get them to supply you with one nowadays, due to this covid BS and the shortage of many items.

Can a butane gas be put to lie down and still work good.

🤣🤣 This video is a great demo of how dangerous a little knowledge can be.

My gas bottle is 3.9kg calor gas bottle. Am I right in thinking it’s roughly 7Litres I put in?

Good vid thanks for posting

I'm all for saving money & i hate the fact that in the UK we are ripped off when buying bottled gas but you started off by saying that you've been doing this for ten years but you don't know how much gas goes in ! Sadly you have made a good case for why this is illegal.

Thanks great help brilliant video nice simple and to the point well done

Where do you get these has bottles filled? Other than the petrol station...

Hi mate, great video, hey just wondering can the cylinder be on its side when filling? or does it have to be upright? Thanks, I'd like to give that a go!!

Please tell me, can you use LPG inside in a heater where you would normally use Butane???

What happens when you get distracted and you overfill the cylinder? How do you ensure that the cylinder gets it's regular pressure tests?

Iv just filled my 47kg at Asda but it only filled to 20 litres then shut off. It was also very slow to fill up. Any idea as to the problem.

As a German, I can say that our LPG is a 40:60 or 60:40 mixture of propane and butane with a density up to 0.6 kg/L. (density from wikipedia) So, if you have a 33kg bottle that would make 33/0.6=55L minus 20%, so 44L of LPG gas that can be filled.

Thank you very much my friend

Someone's going to drop a bollock one day !

how can i do this for Portuguese gas canisters? There are so many different ones here... maybe its just easier if I change the fitting at the appliance i want .Where to get that fitting?

The number you're pointing at (33.4) is the Tare (Empty cylinder weight) not it's contents weight. As you stated at the start the gas weight is 47kg. At least the number you're working on is lower than 47kg. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

So are they safe to fill on its side.

Sod that if they are anything like diving air tanks the bottle will expand on every fill slowly weakening it over time that's why they need hydrostatic testing ?

I was hoping to see an easy way of getting ~70kg(?) back into the car without damaging the paintwork or your heart ;)

What about those camping gas bottles, could I refill mine?

There was a song that springs to mind from WW2 much beloved by the Bomb Disposal Squad Boom! Why does my heart go boom?

Adapters to do this are all over Amazon/eBay. I’d love to do it but I’m pretty sure the petrol stations near me won’t entertain it. You could try leaving it in the boot of your car so they think your car is a gas conversion but they get funny about you having the boot lid or doors open at petrol stations. Also they may call the Calor gas or Flo gas police to come and put you in prison immediately (without passing go or collecting £200 - apparently). Robbing so-an-sos. I notice this guy is doing this in a rural area, probably at a privately owned petrol station so they’re probably quite relaxed country folk.

Does the the filling station actually let you do it though? every one I have visited has been plastered with notices DO NOT FILL CANNISTERS

OK so is it correct that a 13kg bottle can take 24litres of LPG?

Good video thanks.Wish it was still that price.

Brilliant video mate, I appreciate very much you using your time and effort to put it together for us. And today I learnt something new, something very beneficial.

Can you fill your lpg car from gas cannister ?

Thank you Adam for your precious info, kind regards, Marco

Thx . What is the name of the adapter

1.56 "That's hand tight" how 5he duck can it be hand tight if you had to use a spanner.

Good video top man 😎👌

What petrol station did you do that in because they won't let me in my local petrol station in Drogheda

Can't believe this is on KZfaq, just the amount of debate in the comments shows how much interpretation and potential for mistakes there is. Anyone using enough gas to make a substantial difference to their costs should just go and get themselves some proper 4 hole refillable cylinders that don't need any dodgy adaptors, have a pressure gauge, a safety pressure relief valve, and most importantly, a built in automatic cut-off that stops the pump when the bottle reaches 80%. If you get through lots of gas, you can get 160ltr refillable tanks you can fix into a vehicle or even a small dedicated trailer.

how did you stop that pump

I started to do this a few years ago at the one and only filling station local to me with an LPG pump. It went ok for about 14 months but then one day they stopped me!! The manager came out and said it was illegal and pointed at a big notice saying portable gas cylinders were not permitted to be refilled. There are no alternative stations close enough to make it viable, so I can no longer do this. I never had a problem though and it was saving me a fortune on running my gas central heating in a rural location with no mains gas. Don't know how my gas cylinder supplier can justify charging more than a forecourt price for gas, and they are now even charging a market volatility charge and for delivery! They used to deliver free. So it now costs me almost £100 for a 47KG cylinder, which can last as little as a week in very cold weather! This is in the west mids area of the UK.

I just googled how mutch a full bottle is and they vary between 42 an 49 quid ??

First check if it legal to do so = it isn't in some places as the autogas is a different mix of propane/butane to what is used in BBQ and the burners aren't designed for it.

golden stuff..

That's a flogas bottle it's a rented bottle and it's illegal to fill it at a pump .it's regarded as theft .but the video is good I learned from it so thank you. If you try to fill it the cashier will hit the red button to stop and hope she/he doesn't report you or you may be prosecuted

Nice👍🏻👍🏻

its so easy, but can you refil the small ones

if you tried that in Australia the service station operator would push the emergency stop and call the army navy and air force

i would rather have an exchanged unit , only because its checked over for cracks and the saftey valve replaced more often , working safe with gas is key

Where do I obtain the brass screw adapter??? For filling.

I have two 13s in my motor home I fill up at the petrol station it costs £15 each to exchange it costs £32 per bottle so I’m saving over 50% and I’ve been doing this over ten years and contrary to public belief it is not illegal ,this bullshit was put out by cal or as they don’t want people saving money

Used to do this in Holland years ago

Very great presentation ! John, please let me know where to buy the first small adapter European Canister / Bayonet Autogas. I have found on-line several adapters, but no the right one. Thanks in advance to John or another friend who will help me to find a market on-line.

Gas refilling starts at 4:09

Popped to a local gas place today, they refused to fill it said it was against the law. Went to Morrisons and filled it no problem, however on the display it said you can't fill your own gas bottles, I questioned this and the guy said it doesn't have a valve on top to stop you over filling it but as I'd filled it it wasn't a problem. He said if the older guy was in he's a bit more nosey and probably wouldn't let me do it.

You don’t have an OPD valve where you you live?

Taking the weight of the bottle do you take the gas as half the weight and add double the litres mind the 20%?

Just so you all know, in Europe this is illegal at most stations... please inform yourselves before doing this.

Is that here in the UK ? didn't know you could that

Are allowd to this in uk

There is 92L in a 47kg cylinder. At the price you are paying its around £65 to fill your cylinder up the last 47GK cylinder I had (6 weeks ago) was £62 delivered to my door(and there are cheaper places).. is it really worth it?

If its hand tight why you use a spanner

Hope you got good insurance

great demo

Does anyone know of any gas filling stations like this in London, nearest to the Fulham area, please

when filling up in Canada and the States the Tank is put on a weight scale.. its sold by teh pound or kilograms not litres or gallons.

So is lpg propane or butane? Did that cut off automatically?

Where can you get the filling adapter from?

In Flo Gas' stations, can I refill canisters of other companies? Such as Calor? Thanks

Thats not a uk cylinder propane cylinders in the uk have an internal LH thread with no seal or gasket that cylinder has an external thead and would require a seal berween the adapter still the way it was horsed with the shifter might just leak a wee bit very dangerous info

Why is the nozzle positioned upside down on the pump? Also, what is that piece of wood doing on that pump?

Qnyone k ow where you can get the first adaptor piece

So, what country is this orange bomb canister being filled in?

You said 67ltrs maximum in that bottle, then you put over 70 ltrs in. ? Also you fitted the adapter 'hand tight' with an adjustable spanner

KABOOM !!

Hello guys can you please tell me if the tank is marked with the WC (Water Capacity)? If the tank has a mark with WC then I can show you the exact LPG capacity in Litters

In other words its a left hand thread.

Wow good video wear can I get one of them kits from

Where we can get the all that adaptors please

at least the area looks deserted so he wont take anyone else with him.

The tanks we have have a small device in them to prevent over-filling, Not that i think one should rely on theses, Nice to know anyhow.

They have been doing this in the outback in Australia for years

Great idea!!!

"As I said I've been doing this for 10 y..." KABOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

Where can you get adapters to refill bottle? And i have a 19kg bottle so what is 80% in litres ? Thanks

Is this legal?

Didn't think the petrol stationmaster would encourage this as bottles don't gave a saggy cut off value

Jice information

hi how long would it last on calor gas heater on one bar on on low setting please reply cheers