Mark and Sam After Work (the western Australian speedshop mechanic & ULR shooter) demonstrates that for Handloaders, 300 win mag can run heavier projectiles with LESS pressure than 300PRC due to case/chamber design allowing slightly higher velocity… I know it sounds counter intuitive but this gentleman demonstrates and explains why.

You hit the nail on the head with ammo availability for the .300 PRC. If Hornady is the only game in town along with limited loads, it will become another "has been" in the .30 caliber cartridge world.

The reason 6.5 prc took off was because it fit a role people wanted, “magnum creedmoor” many including myself saw the creed’s numbers and said “pass.” Those same people like myself say the prc numbers and said “that’s what I wanted.”

I love my 300 PRC. Using it for mule deer and ELK. I have a 6.5 prc in the same brand of rifle and I was shocked how little the difference in recoil between the 2 was. Great video, Lots of great points.

From what im seeing its easily a top 5 most popular cartridge at the moment. And #1 for new elk rifle purchases.

Love mine, a Howa 1500. Hoping to draw a Wyoming elk tag this season...put it through its paces.

The 6.5 PRC was exactly what I wanted, a short action 264 WinMag. Pretty much the only reason I went with it and I am very pleased with it.

Well, a couple of weeks ago I went to a LR shoot and 4 guys (including me) where shooting the 300PRC to 2k and I must say they performed well. But not saying it can not de done with an other similar cartridges and that it is some kind of magic. However, I must say, I like it 😎 Thanks vor sharing.

I think you spoke volumes when you stated that the 30-caliber field is already well-established. Shooters are proud of their 30 caliber choices, like no others out there. It's hard for even the mighty Hornady Manufacturing Company to get in there with that kind of playing field to market against, regardless of innovation and marketing muscle. My own personal restraints lie in hunting and shooting philosophy. I'm don't have access to ELR distances and won't shoot at any big game at distances that make this round so appealing at being able to handle. I think it's capabilities are cool but not cool enough to buy a new gun for. Great discussion! It's been on my mind all day...

Excellent points all, very well presented. The other PRC's offer real differences where the 300 PRC will only be appreciated by the few long range shooters who can withstand the recoil of a 300 mag. Plus the 7mm PRC arrives downrange with all the accuracy and less recoil than a 300 PRC.

Sold off the old 300 WM for a custom 300 PRC, and I am glad I switched.

My theory is that PRC is targeted at factory ammo shooters and cost is a real issue. It is an awesome round if you can afford the rifle, scope and ammo to feed it. If you reload, high bc bullets can be used with the other 30 cal chamberings. The cost of a fast twist barrel is way more cost effective. 300 WSM and 300 Win Mag is not much different.

I bought a Cascade in 300prc for like 700$ to see how much I would enjoy the round and it is a blast to shoot so far and the recoil isn't bad supressed and ammo is very easy for me to get locally. So all in all fun round.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. The only thing I would add is this video discusses factory offerings of the 30 PRC ammo. In my opinion a lot of the crowd that is attracted to the 30 PRC are reloaders. As long as brass is available the reloader is good to go. I currently own a 300 WM and would love to upgrade to the PRC, but I am waiting to see if brass availability improves. Right now you can find it, but it is expensive. Quite a bit more than what I can get 300 WM brass for.

The 300 PRC is behind in 7mm PRC ammo sales. That being said the 7mm PRC is edging out 7mm Mag after less than a year. The age of the archaic belted magnum is slipping into history.

The 300 PRC has peaked my interest (on paper), but I'll always be a fan of my 300 Wby Mag.

I love my 300prcs. HMR wilderness for my precision rifle and a wilderness ridge for my hunting rifle. Incredible cartridge supressed, no replacement for displacement

Very good video, I guess I fell into a rare category, I am new to hunting and shockingly did not have a 30 caliber hunting rifle (well maybe my 300blk) so I got to start from scratch, I chose a 300PRC because I figured it was the best option for both hunting and LRPS, but you're right, If I had a 30cal already, I probably wouldn't have bought it

I love my PRC 300, I hand load 220 Bergers. Fantastic round And as far as the 7mm Mag, I have the Browning with the 1:8 twist. It loves 185 gr pills

Awesome round!

Im still buying one....between the RUM and the Nosler, the PRC just seems to make sense from a cost/benefit standpoint. I can't go back to belted magnums.

I agree with you 100% you covered all the bases

as i mentioned it often in other videos. I live in switzerland, we’re limited in our hunting regulations, minimum 7mm bullet diameter and a maximum shooting distance from 220yrds. so I often thought about getting another rifle just to satisfy my needs 😂 I shoot two 300wm and one 308. For me there’s absolut no need for a new rifle. but I’m Stil looking for a 300rum or 300wby. prc stuff isn’t really available here.

You hit the nail on the head

Good topic, today! Yes, the 300 PRC does not really solve a need in the 30 caliber arena. As you mentioned, there really isn’t enough difference from a practical standpoint. Especially for hunters. And it has more recoil than the other PRCs. And it’s not as well supported in comparison to the other PRCs, and many older cartridges as well. I think the 7mm PRC will be far more popular than the 300 PRC. Also, we can’t overlook the geopolitical and pandemic aspects that have affected supply chain issues all over the world and in all industries. All of that has impacted the gun and ammo industries as well, in terms of support, over the last few years. And inflation is cutting into discretionary funds that were previously being spent on nonessential items. That is affecting many shooters and hunters right now, as well.

I have a savage 110 stealth 300 win mag. its a 1-8 twist and has a long throat so i can heavy 225 eldms nice and long . Got a larry willis belted magnum collet sizing die and the the brass lasts just as long as a non belted magnum now.

Very well layed out video i dont hate thr prc but if Hornady factory ammunition would shoot very close to the advertised velocity in all the prc line up might would help a lil.cause what i have tested does not .working on a custom 27 nosler will let u know when I get results

Check your action screws, and the barrel channel. And try some standard cup and core bullets. If it wont shoot 180, or 165 grain Hornady Interlocks, or Sierra Game Kings, its definitely sick.

Yeah that isn’t true at all. Seekins precision can’t get 300 prc rifles out fast enough. Also the Christensen arms MPR is a hot seller too. 300 prc is taking off. It’s just been a slow burn bc the price per round is a little more than average. It fits in the space between 300 win mag and 338 lapua. Which is needed!

I just got the Savage long range hunter rifle in 300 PRC. Rifle was only like $800. However 200 rds of Hornady Match ammo for it was around $420

I shoot 180 gr Berger vlds out of my 7mm rem mag with a 1:9.5 twist I think it depends on your elevation. Im in Wyoming though higher than most however I would need a 1:8.5 twist if I wanted to shoot 185s to 195s.

Does really do any thing that other similar cartridges do for a hunter?

As far as the powder capacity goes for the 300 win mag, you can use faster powder in the 4831 or 4350 burn rate and the powder capacity won't be an issue.

Can’t argue that the 300 PRC is a very efficient and fantastic cartridge. However, despite being limited with manufacturers, it does what a handful of cartridges already do in terms of ballistics. Furthermore, some outperform the (300) PRC in all areas including maximizing the use of longer heavier cartridges and having a much more diverse selection of ammunition like the 300 Norma which is also being used by various branches of the US military.

The 300 PRC is a great looking cartridge, but I think the COAL is hurting it as not all long actions and magazines can support it. Also, ballistically it has maybe 50-100 FPS advantage over the 300 WM, or I can give up 100-150 FPS and use the 300 WSM that is very similar looking but 0.9" shorter. Thus the main advantage seems to be being able to seat bullets out away from the doughnut. I think the 7mm PRC has a lot more to offer since it has all of the advantages of the 300 PRC and none of its disadvantages.

Good video and I agree, I think the other thing to note too is that the 300wm fits in a standard long action. As always, even if you were to take advantage of some more extreme heavy bullets that take advantage of the higher twist, your velocity would be similar to a 6.5 creed and eventually there is diminishing returns.

The RUM can also handle those rounds and get about the same fps as the PRC as well. Actually went with the RUM because there were way more options to use for reloading than the PRC

I got the 6.5 creed because it is the perfect southern whitetail and blackbear cartridge👍 I’d get a 300 PRC if I were an elk hunter!

The other issue that I see with the newer ilk of cartridges is that there is no real way to shoot light bullets accurately. The jump if you were to ever load a 180 or a 150 into a 300 prc from the case to the rifling can not have a great effect on accuracy

In the custom rifle realm the 300PRC is popular. I believe factory ammo options are low hence custom rifle owners roll their own.

If you want a big 30 cal go with the 300 norma mag. Shorter case which allows you to seat 230-250 gn projectiles out far while magazine feeding. And pushing 230gns at over 3100fps depending on barrel length. Also the US military have adopted the norma cartridge as ther new advanced sniper round

The WInmag is just so entrenched now its dug in deeper than an Alabama tick. It will eventually give way to the 300 prc just for the fact no one in their right mind would buy a new Winmag over a Prc, why would you? you might as well get the new improved cartridge and faster twist rate barrel. They both will exist in the same universe for a long time simply because there are soooo many Winmags out there but time will eventually see the demise of the Winmag and the more Prcs built every year means the more ammo producers will come on board for it, it is..... INEVITABLE.

I love it. I'll buy it all then for myself.

RW, I think the 300 PRC lacked the marking campaign of many of the new cartridges. Couple that with the lack of rifle availability and ammo availability, what you get is just another good cartridge that will soon be in the obsolete category. As you so rightly pointed out, the PRC isn't doing anything that the Win., Weatherby and RUM haven't been doing for years. I see no reason to make a change, even if I could find a rifle and ammo. Soon it'll be with the 300 SAUM. Cheers, Jeff

Does it really out perform any 300 Win, 300 Norma, 300 RUM, 300 Nosler, ot the 300 Weatherby, is it really any surprise.

It's more gun than most people need. It has a lot of recoil. Out to 1000yds the top target shooters are using 7mm cartridges.

I see the 6.5 being loaded at work constantly. Honestly I'm sick of hearing about anything 6.5. I'd much rather be hearing about the .264 Winchester, or even the .260 Remington. I've got two boxes of .260 that I can't even give away! 50 years ago when .30 was King, the .30 PRC would have left a serious mark! Thanks for the videos and info. Thomas, Mississippi!!

Great video,but if we compare 7 mm rem mag with the same twist and 7 mm prc,what is the diference??? I think that 7 mm rem is beteer in that comparison.

Great video, you made a lot of really great points. However, there’s a really important one I think you left out. The advantage the 300 PRC gives over the win mag is range. But does anyone actually use the win mag at range? Yes, I know there are military snipers chambered in 300 win mag. Not counting that exception, who is using 300 win mag for precision rifle? That seems to be what Hornady had in mind for the cartridge, after all they did call it the Precision Rifle Cartridge. But no one uses magnum 30 cals for precision rifle. It has no real trajectory advantage over the 6.5 creed or 6mm creed. With the disadvantages of much more recoil, and much more cost. Good luck shooting a match with 250 grain A-tips. Your wallet will be a whole lot lighter, and your shoulder a whole lot more bruised than everyone else playing the game. And (almost) no one is hunting at the ranges of where 300 PRC begins to edge out the win mag in performance. So really the only people who would actually buy a 300 PRC are the sniper LARP type people, and there aren’t a ton of them.

it may not be popular, but I feel like all roads LEAD to it like this HAS to be the round that the new high BC shooters will upgrade to when they begin to aspire to longer distances all th 6.5 guys and the prc family guys, all roads lead to the 300 PRC

I haven't bought one because i don't know if it will be around in a few years

Not popular for factory ammo buyers but a dream for reloaders

Curious what your group size is for the 225gr in your 300Wby? Does the 1:10 twist rate stabilize that big bullet? Thanks!

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If i didnt have a 338 LM, this is what i would get. But now i cant afford anything else 😅

If you get a rifle like seekins ph2 they have ridiculously long magazine lengths that allow people to seat bullets way out essentially making the 300win even better same goes with the prc.

Fun fact federal discontinued the 215G terminal ascent loading. So can remove that from the list. Which is sad because it’s my favorite bullet. But I’ll be keeping my 300 PRC as a hunting rifle only the outfitter loading is perfect for 400 and in anything outside 400 ELDX or M is perfect

The ammo is only part of it. The other equation is that a special 30 cal is not necessary to shoot long range. A standard 10 twist will stabilize some excellent high bc bullets.

You have to look at what you would use it for. The main focus for this cartridge is hunting. Not many are going to shoot it in competition. In 30 caliber, the 300 WSM is probably the most popular. No it doesn't do well with the heaviest 30 bullet, but it will shoot many effective hunting bullets very accurately with the least amount of recoil in the 30 caliber magnums and is widely available in factory loads. With this new generation of 6.5 Creed shooters out there, they will never switch to a 300 PRC due to the recoil level. I also think the 7mmPRC will suffer the same fate. The 7mm Rem Mag is pretty much the most recoil hunter will take in hunting rifles shooting in field positions. Not many will shoot 7mmPRC in competition either. The 300 WSM is pretty much the highest recoil cartridge that sees some use in competition.

I think the real problem is magazines. It requires a magazine longer than every other standard magnum cartridge.

The 300 PRC is just more gun than I would want. I think the 300 WSM in a Tikka would be perfect since you can modify it easily and load bullets out more. If I was looking for a good grizzly gun then yes the 300 PRC would be great but to be honest you don't really need that kind of power either even for them.

If Whitetails here in the south start wearing body armor I’d buy one, Until then I’ll stick with the old, The price of ammo has pushed me back to my standard calibers, Africa would be a good place for that round, Elephants, Water buffalo, etc.

I think for practical hunting distance it’s adds nothing. I personally am just not going to take a shot a 600 yards and even the best shooters predicting the wind is extremely hard. If your trying to shoot steel at 1k sure it’s better.

I would think more people are shooting paper over animals these days which is why the most popular calibers are light recoil high bc. People just want to shoot for fun or sport.

300 win mag is a big reason why it hasn't taken over, so many rifles chambered for the win mag.

300 PRC factory ammo here in Australia is $5.00 per round ! That's $100.00 for a box of 20. That's why it never took off here.

Because it's a crowded field, its competing directly with .300 WSM, .300 RCM and .300 SAUM not to mention all the full length magnums

I put together a Custom 300 PRC Big Horn Action Preferred Barrel Blsnks Barrel 1:9 twist, 250gr A-Tips, Lapua Brass, Ramshot LRT powder, 2850fps, .346 MOA. That my friends is a missile strike. You have to hand load to see the real performance of .300 PRC

I dont now whay every one metion the belt in magnum cases. What is wrong with the belt???please tell mee.

Itll pick up when more people make ammo all i ever see is Hornaday ammo for the 300 and its 65 to 80 bucks a box more close to 80. COME ON FEDERAL PUT SOME LIFE IN IT ALL IT NEEDS IS A TERMINAL ASCENT!!!

I love mine. I agree ammo options stink only one manufacturer an just now able to get it easy. Prices are finally getting affordable. Brass is available though an bullets

I like 300 Win mag the best

There are a LOT of people online and on youtube who continue to verbalize that the 300WSM is their favorite caliber of all time and there are a LOT of custom rifle builders who favor the WSM as well due to the significant repeatable non-picky nature and accuracy of the WSM

Here in Brazil this caliber is expensive a lot

What reloading book is that

I have a 300wm that I load a 220RN to 2825ish

Up to about 220 gr bullet 300 Weatherby and 300 PRC are the same.

Ammo availability did it for me

My Bergera 300 PRC has a 1:9 twist… and boy she’ll fling a 220 eldx through a donut hole at 200 yards. So while I understand the importance of a faster twist, you also are limited speed because of maximum bullet rpm limits. Lighter bullets can’t be shot at higher speeds in fast twist rifles. But one key factor is velocity. People always want faster… the 300 PRC is meant for reaching to the next mountain peak not the next 200 yd scrap of paper.

There’s nothing being invented today that’s any better then the cartridges released 40-50 years ago.

The 300 PRC is... FRIGGIN HUGE, compared to a 300 win mag. (.36 in longer.) Ammo also costs double. Doesn't provide double the Awesome.

I’ll keep my 300 WSM. Hand loaded 180 Nosler AB’s at 3000 FPS 1/2 MOA

The reason ammunition companies keep inventing new calibers is for profit. Once the hype is done about one card trithey slow down production so you have to buy the reloading equipment‼️ And they make even more money because now they sell primers powder and bullets & brass cases‼️

I want a 300 prc to me 6.5 prc is not a lot different than credmor at 2xammo cost

One of the reasons it hasn’t gone anywhere is there is the 300 Win , 300 Dakota , 300 H&H , 300 WSM , 300 REM short mag , 308 Norma , 300 Norma , 30 Nosler , 300 REM ultra , 300 WBY ( my personal favorite ) ! Boy we sure needed another 300 ??? That not as good as half of the above cartridges and barley as good as the other half ! ……. Get it through your head it’s all about selling new rifles ! What is it really ? A proprietary target cartridge and probably a good one ! We don’t need another 30 caliber hunting cartridge! Oh to soon ???……

It's kinda like the Nosler 30 nosler is dying while the 28 Nosler is selling good.

For hunting, the 300WM is perfectly fine and much more available. Basically, the 300PRC filled a need that wasn't needed. There are not enough ultra long range target shooters to really make much difference. Super mags have never been big sellers.

Have to disagree. Except the 300wm, the other magnum cartridges you list are less popular or more expensive than the 300prc and most of the factory ammo for 300wm is for hunting. 300prc has best factory ammo for long range target, even if it is all Hornady.

Us that like the 300 win mag is starting to get the 300 PRC but is just to much for ammunition and not much avant eg the 300 PRC has over the 300 win mag for the price not good enough. I like the 30 caliber rounds but is not a big difference between the two for hunting. 6.5 prc for the win great deer slayer.

Popular or not, the 300 PRC is a great sniper caliber!

A big bullet is more accurate but a lot of flame and high prices on rifle and Ammo

If you already have a big 30. Stay with it. They all work. If you’re buying a new gun go with the 300 prc. I see 300 prc Hornady ammo everywhere. That’s all you need. Reload if you want something different. 300 prc ammo available online for $42. Don’t judge a cartridge because other ammo companies aren’t supporting it. There are more 6.5’s out their. Big 30’s aren’t as big of market. Not everyone can handle it. I’m not getting one because my 338 win mag doesn’t leave any questions that any 30 would answer. Kiss and make up with Hornady Weatherby Boy! I get it. You’re a Weatherby guy. My complaint with your videos is usually you don’t own what you’re ripping up. Never shot it. Never loaded for it. Not really an expert. Your just looking at paper. I love you man! When I get my channel going you can rip me up too!

300 PRC really doesn’t check any boxes that weren’t already checked. The recoil sucks, and with the cost of components and factory loads it’s a no for me.

300 PRC isn’t going anywhere and I don’t think the 7PRC will come near the popularity of the 6.5PRC. Hornady is great to have in our sport but they cannot convert everybody to their line of cartridges and ammo. They sure supply the marketing and components when they launch but the 300 and 7 looks like a dud compared to your 6.5cm and PRC. Thanks for the video.

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There are lots of 300 Magnums out there, so this one does not stand out,if I wanted to shoot heavy for caliber bullets I would rebarrel my 300 Win !

Why develop new calibers when the already existing are good enought. It only raises the costs.

More handloaders pick the 300 PRC. No need for factory ammo.

The 300prc has taken off, just because there’s not 21 different boxes of ammo doesn’t matter. The 300prc is way better round than 300 win. It’s basically the modern 30 cal just like what hornady did with the 7mm prc

Its proven better than 338 lupa