Ik i'm kinda stupid but I didn't get the joke, can you please explain?

@@tenritniehtnoyugmodnar5661 camille is kind of like a spy that kills anyone that poses a threath towards her Clan(Clan Ferros),she also according to the wiki maintains order across piltover and zaun which means she may have killed some people that worked with renata and since Camille basically kills hundreds and thousands of people,saying that basically narrows down nothing to Camille

@@handonfrogo So basically she killed thousands of people to the point she has no evidence against camille of which person she killed?

@@tenritniehtnoyugmodnar5661 Also a quote from Batman beyond where future Batman confronts the murderer of his parents where the guy basically goes "Who the hell are you?" Future Batman responding "You murdered my parents!" directly followed by "Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?"

@@siliarba lol

Riot rather go in on the hate bandwagon rather than fix her smh.

@@travisprescott9708 it's not a bandwagon is ops point

i think zeri's line make sense though. like zeri is out there risking her life to save zaunites while seraphine... sing songs... i guess... i mean, not like seraphine doesnt do anything, its just in comparision to zeri's effort, seraphine's "contribution" seems really small (one could even say meaningless). i agree the gwen one is kinda random (but she did travelled to PnZ in the ruination event so supposedly she does know about seraphine to some extend, but i assume not enough to say smth like "a stage, a voice, is that really all that you are", in gwen's personality i think she would just be curious and maybe enjoy the show)

It makes sense for All zaunites to hate her

@@Xemnes135869 Why? Not all Zaunites hate her, all she does is singing to them.

I thought it was a commentary about how expensive medical bills are.

“I mean it’s one banana, Michael, what could it cost, 10 dollars ?” - Lucille Bluth. RIP Jessica Walter you Legend

I thought it was new cost of Insulin in USA(which is actually super believable )

yes !!! cant believe how many of people missed that ! though it is pretty vague .

@@Gummybearkillerr it's a pretty popular meme too :P

Silco Sees a Piltovan: "To the last, I shall grapple with thee." Renata Sees a Piltovan: *'Doom: Eternal' music starts playing*

True

Not to mention it seems a point of her was destroying that idea of "kindness" she prob would retain from her folks. Compared to SIlco who was ..idealist..? (Is that right?) and let his emotion get ahead of him ( even in the first act with Vander)

Same, so nice to see her getting mentioned!

Is...is that supposed to be a joke for Camile's foot?

@@Somespideronline Imagine giving her socks for Christmas?

@@tenritniehtnoyugmodnar5661 I'd die lmao

he needs to do a breakdown on what taste purple to lulu

Oh wow didn't think I'd see you here lad

@@Teddy-se8qb we already know that and it is creepy as fuck. spoilers they have sentient food bandle city and what lulu means by that tasted purple is. that she took a bite out and ate a piece of a purple bipedal essential talking food person. you can literally see where she bite him as a piece of his arm is missing.

Your pfp suggests that you enjoy his stuff a bit too much.

Her first trailer/video was already setting her up as an engineer.

Geniuses are a dime a dozen at this point lol

@@essay2111 Fr

@@essay2111 why

@@wladynoszhighlights5989 Bc near every champ is considered some sort of genius It’s not a problem for me but it’s funny to be surprised by geniuses at this point

Art Design Hell yeah! but Gameplay Design is a bit questionable.

Her art and character design are great, She gives me big Swain vibes. Also her death quote is really sad, she did care about her parents deeply.

@@mc_jojo3 wdym her game design is great and by far the best we've gotten in years

Who knew we needed a female Swain 🤷🏽‍♂️

@@adyankhazix1476 her w is too op to be a basic ability they should just remove the revive when you kill someone and instead make it reset the burn timer.

That’s Debra Wilson for ya!

People think investing means inventing just look at Elon musk whole public recognition. People think he invented every single thing his companies make

@@josea.ram.457 Yup... a lot of people really do think that paying for something to be made is the same as making something...

Those parents had it coming.

@@Morec0 HAHAHA

@@Morec0 Even renata's, who in lore are known for giving help to others asking nothing in return ?

@@alucard0596 literally her parents were so sweet

@@ThePunkina1 i know right ? they tasted so good.

Seraphine's lore really needs a retcon

The little "song of unity" is, i assume, in renata's perspective, a bunch of crap too

@@azrieldalusong5042 they did do a retcon not long after her launch but now it's in a "to be continuted" state she will most likely try to help the brackerns. now that skarner won the rework it would be a great opportunity to expand her lore too.

@@imStorm3r I hope they give her ahsoka treatment

@@azrieldalusong5042 sry, im not that familiar with star war

That or Doom lol. Though out of both of them it def seems to me less pride of " behold, ME, I AM RIGHT" and more so her showing the world she isnt that weak girl, her parents were fools, etc ( even if she cared for them. They are naturally good natured - she just stomped hers far far down in a sense)

She's fit to rule because she takes care of her people for the exchange of their loyalty.

Yeah, I really don't think Camille would ever be the hero of the story tbh but more like an enemy to the anti-hero that is Renata- unless Riot decides to be really fuckin tone deaf I guess

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if she is considered a hero and savior for zaunites , and compared to Camille she does more good then evil and would say she's more sympathetic, so i wouldn't call her a villain she walks the lines of anti villain and anti hero

Its from both

I feel that there are other champs that have stories connected to zaun and pullover they need to finish before they do that

@@CyrusL I agree

she did say that she loves the city but IF she needs to burn it down to take down piltover well... as from that quote pretty much saying that she will do everything to take down Piltover. I wouldn't call her hero but I can't really her a villain either..

@@lag00n54 yeah that's why I call her an Ozymandias hero like in Watchmen because he did villainous things for the greater good. The biggest giveaway for me was when she still cursed Janna for not helping Zaun when they needed her the most. The Chemtech incident was what started Renata on the path to power so she should actually be thanking Janna's lack of interference but to still be cursing her for it shows she actually cared about Zaun and Piltover.

Because she probably didn't know about her, the others are either bigger figures like jinx or viktor or just a nuisance like ekko and zeri

Because Orianna isn't a notable character and I doubt anyone even knows she exists. To everyone except her dad, she's just yet another robot walking the streets of Piltover.

Isn't Oriana one of those forgotten characters collecting dust?

Fr dude like wtf man i was so dissapointed

And Cho'gath but Cho really needs a full VGU

since they had the actress in studio recently for the LoR and ruined king games, i'm shocked riot did not update MF voice lines

@@arnaldocosta1298 same, but who knows.

@@arnaldocosta1298 they would also need to visually update her too to match her lore. She deserves an ASU like Caitlyn and Ahri

I wish they would do voice line updates like big time some champs don’t need reworks they just need updates

Quick fun fact: „The difference between mecidine and poison is the dosage“ is a famous quote by Paracelsus, a swiss doctor and philosopher. The sentence is quite common in swiss german, my father used to say it a lot.

I thought it was a George Orwell reference Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.

@@pandanomicon7789 given dunes I think is also about trade politics etc I'd imagine its the closer one o:

Like most enchanter supps nowadays are played :D Staying in backline, occosionally healing & stuff but otherwise letting the adc/other teammates do most work

@@wladynoszhighlights5989 it’s just the community view of enchanter supports. Everyone always thinks enchanter supports are played by UwU girl gamers like “yeah here I’ll heal you now go shit on them!” But Renata is like “yes I’ll peel for you now shit on them FOR ME otherwise you literally just die and be useless”

And in doing so made her so intimidating, so stylish, and so appealing of a design! It conveys such *character* unique to her, rather than being another cookie cutter young thin mandatorily sexy lady. She's middle-aged, grizzled, broad-shouldered, *and* sexy!

The problem is Arcane is a planned out narrative experience while LoL is a spread out worldbuilding exercise. The reason why so many characters got condensed into roles they weren't initially (Singed is Ori's dad, Jayce was Caitlyn's family's ward) is because Arcane writers tried to make a singular intertwined narrative experience where each character is important. Lore of League on the other hand focuses on expanding the universe, creating many independent stories that happen simultaneously that create the feeling of grandeur and that the world is much bigger than the singular person. Each approach has it's benefits and detriments. I would much rather see a seperate game and cinematic universe they stick to and simply exchange ideas when they feel like it. The lore of LoR, for example, is to me very interesting and I much rather prefer they focus on merging these too than Arcane and games.

@@MrBlueKitsune We knew very little about Piltover's and Zaun's lore even to begin with, some things in Arcane are answers to questions that we had for years (Are Vi and Jinx sisters). There is no reason why couldn't they make Arcane into a good narrative experience while staying very close to the canon. They can make good experiences for people, and this doesn't require the games, future seasons of Arcane, or even films not to be canon. There was no reason for the Warcraft film to be different from WoW's lore either. The only thing that you can achieve with this segmented universe is that you will confuse people when they want to explore your universe in other media. The whole making different games or Arcane just partially canon thing makes no sense, and isn't necessary at all. I think it just ruins people's experience

At that point unfortunately, you can't rewrite core League lore to be like arcane without retconning most stuff. I still hope that Vi and Jinx backstory are basically the same in core League and Arcane, tho

@@Korinengamecorp I too hope that Vi&Jinx's backstoryes are very similar to Arcane, because this way the lore in the show doesn't go to "waste". About the retcons, I think they can be very good depending on what does it retcon, and how. Like if they retconned the Ruination event and made an entire new story, nobody would be angry about them doing it.

you realize the larger a property gets the harder it genuinely is to do that

I agree!

Hopefully that will get a bit of meat behind it in Renata's color story. Right now Zeri's a bit underbaked in my opinion.

Yeah, kinda weird for Necrit to say that when there's a bunch of canon examples of her skills being shown or at least implied...

All the Jinx's weapons are handmade by her. This was always indicated in the lore.

they forgor 💀

@@DronesOverTheMoon indie game compan

In her trailer she does have one or I just confused it with something else

Isn't warwick the one that is hunting chembarons?

@@christiancolasito8266 urgots whole lore is about how he's brining down the chembarons

I really wanted an urgot interaction too :/

Seraphine stans attack on Renata perfume page confirmed, this battle will be legendary, better prepare my best Lux skin for this occasion

Yesss, there's also plenty of nods to that in a bunch of canon content.

Urgot would be Rayquaza to Camille and Renata's Groudon and Kyogre

I wonder if she was the one who saved him (if silco is canon in the main lore)

Zeri interesting in the idea of what she may become, like a start up "legend " with ekko, but mostly was to bring in Renata into scene alongside her? ( I think there was a delay on the champs etc)

Hell Yeah

I'm hoping they're waiting to see how fans react when PNZ's story is fully done to start retconning stuff. But yeah, feels bad man.

Which i feel as horrible misstep in riots part but hell if comic books empires can have multiple storylines why not video game companies

@@that1nerdyblackgirl736 Fair enough, I do hope they integrate some key parts like Jinx and Vi's backstory, Vi and Cait being girlfriends, Singed's new personality, Jayce and Viktor's personalities, and pretty much every bit of new lore about Heimerdinger as canon. Everything else I can chalk up to as "artistic license for Arcane" with varying degrees of acceptance.

@@ScorpionViper1001 welp Vander is Warwick is up in the air. And i still think riot looks like they want to update ekko model to have dreadlocks (I never fully understood why the Mr.T Mohawk look was agreed upon for his hair. But that me being nit picky)

Indeed is more likeable. Ekko is exactly the kind of young genius that she would like to assume.

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