Fixing the cylinder head of a MF-35 4 cylinder diesel after frost damage with cold metal paste from loctite .
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@phlodel5 жыл бұрын
I was pleased to see you drilled stop crack holes. This step is often overlooked and it's very important.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
phlodel thanks fir the comments
@davida1hiwaaynet5 жыл бұрын
Very nice to see this getting repaired! You are a good craftsman to take this time to salvage the head.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Thanks fo r the nice comments
@33478615 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Glad to see you saving the old girl. If possible I braze cast iron. Little bit more work but makes for a permanent repair. Love your channel!
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Txs , indeed.. I just wanted to try this loctite, and see if its going to last
@buddyboy19535 жыл бұрын
In the USA we called those plugs " frost plugs " Another great video which I learned a lot !!! Hopefully, my Massey Ferguson 65 never needs all this attention, but if it does I will know where to look !!! Looking forward to the next inline video, thanks,Ken
@ianrutherford8785 жыл бұрын
In USA a lot of you call them frost plugs and that implies that they were put there to save the head from cracking in frost.In fact they are only there to block the holes left to get out the sand-core (hence core-plugs) which was there to create the hollow voided space for cooling water.The fact that they sometimes get pushed out before or instead of the casting cracking if insufficient antifreeze is used is just a small bonus.Some of you in USA know this and use the correct name---core-plug.
@evanjones25395 күн бұрын
@@ianrutherford878 This type of core plug is called a "Welch plug"...
@blairguinea68115 жыл бұрын
This work is what I live for ! thanks again Sir
@an04ker5 жыл бұрын
Good work. You can’t beat old school stuff that can be repaired without the need for a laptop. 👍👍
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
an04ker , indeed and txs for the comments
@locustbay75945 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel and I love it - It reminds me of my Dad who used to fix up and repair old tractors - Subscribed
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Txt for the comments
@robertwilliams32984 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you I’m an old farmer and it takes me back to those days on the farm
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments... great times
@jeremygreenwood85014 жыл бұрын
Just had to replace the same two core plugs (frost plates) in mine so this was good to see. It also explained what the welding repair was for - same freezing issue. Good video, well paced.
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@iamrichrocker5 жыл бұрын
these are my first videos..and am impressed with your approach..no nonsense ..calmly walking thru your repair method..and love the farm..look forward to viewing all of your videos..as i can see you have an eclectic approach to life...knowledge and exploration is the key..i subbed..
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
iamrichrocker thank you and i hope you will enjoy it
@caahacky5 жыл бұрын
No need to have music while you are talking. Thanks for the video.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
caahacky txs fir the tip
@rodneybrown49513 жыл бұрын
You were lucky the petrol tank was not leaking at the front lockdown bracket:) Great show mate
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments
@Scumnuts5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed watching. I use an old stone grinder wheel laid on its side to surface heads. Seems easier to keep perfectly flat and I no longer have to find wood in the garage that doesn't have jack damage on it.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Txs for the comments and a great tip
@Desmodromic9165 жыл бұрын
My father had a copy of 35, it had three cylinders. Love the videos
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Desmos Dromos txs
@christophernunn943 Жыл бұрын
What would be helpful is how to check the cylinder head for any possible distortion and advice on what would pass and what wouldn't before reassembling. Great videos thanks.
@andreasarncken83095 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, very nice job indeed. If I might suggest, it would have been a good idea to check the valves for leakage and hand grind them in, in order to get good and even compression on all cylinders after reassembly. Most old engines, unused for longer time, tend to have one or several valve seats pittied by corrosion due to some of these valves having been open for a long time. Another observation, if you don´t mind: Before unscrewing the valve rocker shaft, it is recommendable to undo the valve adjusting nuts and by this taking off the load on the open valve rockers. This prevents bending of the shaft when undoing. Older engines like this might not suffer that easily but newer engines, due to having less material, very easily do. Other than this, I´d like to congratulate you for a very good instructional video.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments and tips Andreas, those are very good points ...
@alanlanghorn95282 жыл бұрын
Yes use that fix with the paste before on bits that had rusted on trucks to get me out of trouble it worked well
@D3Sshooter2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments
@axeman65605 жыл бұрын
I like this tutorial format, very informative thanks a lot!
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
TXS for vewing and the comments
@irvinslagter82985 жыл бұрын
A few suggestions...the head should have been blown out after sanding the surface. As soon as you turn it over for installation the debris will fall out on your new head gasket. Also, instead of using a sander to clean out the frost plug holes, a wire brush would be better. It would leave the bore square, whereas the sander will bevel taper it and you have very little edge for the frost plug to grab on to. A spray can of brake cleaner with a wand on it would have allowed you to clean out the cracks after you ground them, allowing the paste to fill it up and would bond maybe a little better. I would have also Magna fluxed the head, and checked it for straight (flatness) before I ever started working on it. Gaskets are not cheap anymore and I sure wouldn't have to do it again. Just my 2 cents worth and that's all its worth. Good luck. :>)
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
txs for the comment, great write up and usefull advice... thanks again
@andrewwilson83175 жыл бұрын
Never had much long term success with these epoxy pastes and putties. You need to check out muggy weld cast iron rods. They have proved to be the most effective and easiest long term repair, in my humble opinion. Does not need any fancy or expensive welding kit. No ties to company,just a satisfied customer.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Wilson txs. So far 40 hours no issue. But that is not along time
@andrewwilson83175 жыл бұрын
Don't get me wrong,I seriously want it to work for you. I like to pressure test castings after repair, I have learned the hard way by having leaking castings after repair and assembled. The extra time and another gasket set means money lost on the job. It is not expensive to have the repair done for you. I charge roughly £100 to blast clean,repair and pressure test a head like this. Bit more if you want head stripped and assembled and / or painted.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Wilson txs Andrew, i like your comments so no issue what so ever. And you are right, the how shall i say. The standard way as you describe it is the better and right way. I just wanted to test. At the end , i might have weld it. If or when it fails. Txs
@trafalgar22a85 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this continuation video.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
My pleasure
@timothynewkirk26544 жыл бұрын
Like your videos Steve. They're quite informative, even though I've done these procedures many times. BTW in USA we call those "Freeze Plugs." ...Newk from Kentucky
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments Timothy, and great to read Freeze plug, that is also how we translate it in dutch Fries plaat...
@ir8d8rads4 жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter They aren't really about freezing. They are for removing the sand cores after casting.
@Melicoy4 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Very nice restoration.
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@titofernandezmeirino98323 жыл бұрын
Superb video, congratulations!
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@trafalgar22a85 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed watching your disciplined diagnosis and PMRM. The Welch Plug was patented in Pontiac Michigan USA c1900s. I hope to see Part 2 KZfaq despite many disappointments. What is your application for those tyres? 05OCT2018
@liebherr116024 жыл бұрын
You can weld cast with the proper rods. But all in all not a bad way to salvage an old piece of machinery! As far as a flat, use a single cut mill file
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments
@dougbourdo25895 жыл бұрын
Just an observation: it appears that the front axle wheel spindles are in need of new bearings at the bottom end. When there is a large gap beneath the steering arms at the top of the spindles (king pins) it indicates worn bearings. They are easily replaced.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Doug Bourdo , txs. And yes indeed they also need replacing
@jayhamo84145 жыл бұрын
Great informative video, when will the rest of the restoration be uploaded ?
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Its all on my youtube channel.... TXS D3SSHOOTER
@jp-um2fr5 жыл бұрын
I think you called them frost plates. Iv'e seen a frost plate along with the cast iron around it blown out of an old Morris 8 engine. I wedged a tapped bar across the inside and a plate larger than the hole with a gasket and it held for years. In the UK we calle them 'core plugs' they serve 2 purposes. One to hopefully blow when iced up and two to get the sand core out after casting.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
jp , txs for the comments and your explanation. And i learned some new words.
@jusb10665 жыл бұрын
also the valve shaft we call 'rocker shaft' and the rockers operate the valves!
@maxwebster75725 жыл бұрын
I just tried to clear this up elsewhere, the core plugs are where the core was located in either the cope or the drag depending on the complicity of the casting. The core has to be indexed exactly or there will be deficiencies in the casting. The fact that sand is removed through them is helpful but it is not the reason they are there. Location, location, location.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
max webster txs Max. This seems to be a topic on many including me had a misunderstanding. At leat i can tell my old teacher that he missed the point on those openings. Txs again
@ianrutherford8785 жыл бұрын
Only one of these is their purpose and the reason they exist (to do with the sand and resin core that shapes the inside of the cooling water galleries).They were never put there as a safety feature against frost-cracking.That just turned out to be a bonus .Sometimes. But they are also a weak point for corrosion ,being thin steel plate in thick cast-iron.
@jp-um2fr4 жыл бұрын
Those are' core plugs'. They are the holes that enable the hardened sand core to be removed when the head was cast. You will find them quite often in the engine block as well. They do help protect an engine from frost damage sometimes but like this engine not often.
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, indeed
@richvandervoort29505 жыл бұрын
It will be interesting too see how long this repair last. I would have tried to braze these cracks, but the whole head would probably have to be heated. Heating the head and cleaning it up for brazing would have required a full disasembly, so the the epoxy patch was definately a lot less work.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Indeed, that is also why I tried this, so far 40 Hours and no issues. But will it last ? That is the question... TXS for the comments
@johnerway72555 жыл бұрын
Metal lock service is a non-weld repair. It's been around for many years and make the part good as new. Metal is drilled and wedges are used to secure and seal the water passage. I seen it done many years age, they were our of Buffalo, New York however, I am sure other company's have been stared doing the same service.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Txs for the great comments and time to explain..
@jusb10665 жыл бұрын
i cant speak for loctite brand, the JB weld 24 hour formula is very good indeed and easy to work as its a little thinner to work than the putty (maybe they also make a putty) but is the strongest i have ever used , i used to use devcon, but i have not found an equal to the jbweld original
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
TXS, will see over time if its lasts
@jaswmclark4 жыл бұрын
i HAVE ONE OF THESE ENGINES IN MY BOAT. A GREAT PIECE OF MACHINERY
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments
@altonriggs23524 жыл бұрын
That's a perfect job for JB Weld.
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, and indeed
@battleaxefabandmachine4 жыл бұрын
You should research a repair method called pinning. You drill and tap along the crack and install a plug. You overlap each plug by half. In a pinch I have used 1/8" brass or iron solid pipe plugs. You peen each plug as you go and it seals up nice. Good video
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, great tips and advice. Thank you... I wanted to test this product out as I did, and meanwhile its been running just fine
@1961nuffield4 жыл бұрын
The engine in the 4 cylinder fergies is a standard motor company engine, they were also used in vans cars and light lorries.
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments
@453421abcdefg123454 жыл бұрын
Was the core plug that leaked in the cylinder head, or the block ? It may sound improbable, but you can weld non stressed cast iron parts with a standard MIG welder, I have repaired manifolds with that method many times, just try it, you will be surprised, you can buy a second hand cylinder head from Southern Counties Tractor spares in Sussex.
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Leaking to the outside that is why i could fix it like I did
@heykevwhatyouup2 Жыл бұрын
Just started watching a lot of your videos keep up the good work 👍just one question can you braze the crack in the cylinder head ?
@D3Sshooter Жыл бұрын
This was a test to see if worked and it still holds, as far as I am aware you cannot braze Cast iron...
@dotty15495 жыл бұрын
Frost plates can also be known as welsh plugs. It is best to replace them on a re build with brass or stainless steel iron ones can rust!
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Indeed, thanks
@trevorslater27464 жыл бұрын
In New Zealand we call them frost plugs ,if you use anti freeze liquid then the frost plugs won't rust out ,consider how long it took the originals to rust out ,cheers
@skylinefever4 жыл бұрын
It is interesting to see the port design on this cylinder head. Usually old agricultural engines have ports that merge inside the cylinder head. That might make the engine cheaper, but it is really weak for performance.
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@pville55484 жыл бұрын
I love the content, thank you very much. I do have a question though, if you are going through all the time and expense to make the repair, why wouldn't you pull the valves and give them an inspection? Doesn't cost you any Euro's and could end up saving you a problem that could surface in short order. Again, thank you for sharing, I do love it.
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Yes, that is a good point... I did , but did not make a video on it...
@Elaba_2 жыл бұрын
Did it last?
@OldSkoolF5 жыл бұрын
We used to use JB Weld to fix 2.5 Iron Duke Engines... They were notorious for cracking the Block Water Jacket through the center freeze plug.... It lasted longer than the cars did.... LOL PS. We used a Dremel with a Carbide Grout removal bit.... Don't bang the bit around it will break, but it chews through the Iron like butter!
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Txs for the comment, interesting
@dondesnoo17715 жыл бұрын
In the old days when frozen mixed up k w sealer and powdered iron a paste
@TheByard5 жыл бұрын
Way back I worked on a sewer bridge in the East of London which carried sewage from most of London, the bridge was bombed in WWII and swiftly repaired with tunnel segments IE bolts on the inside flanges, this impaired the flow. So we replaced each of the 5 tubes in turn with sewer cast iron segments, they have flanges and bolts on the outside. Each inside joint had a caulking groove, the groove was filled with iron grindings and some sort of ammonia ???? The mixture set like iron and passed the 1 year guarantee period no problem.
@romainagri65633 жыл бұрын
Hello, great video, do you add a layer of resin on the loctite ea 3463 that you have spread? Thank you
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comments, No i did not.... This was a test and since that day I have over 150 hours on the tractor without and issue
@romainagri65633 жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter ok thanks for the information
@KoolBreeze4205 жыл бұрын
How does drilling the holes prevent further cracking?
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Cracks are happening due to stress within the material, the crack will build grow through the weakest area's. a bit like water finds its way. drilling a whole at the end of a crack is a stress relief point
@L00x933 жыл бұрын
Great channel- very informative and easy to understand even for someone like me who has zero experience in mechanic work ! One question- What do you mean by "the crack is on the cooling side and so there is not a lot of pressure" ? Is there another area in the water cooling system that would typically have higher pressure ? Thanks.
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! What I meant was that the cooling system is low pressure in fact almost zero. if the crack was near de cylinders or valves seats.... then that would not work due to the compresion
@L00x933 жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter Thanks for your explanation !
@hurricanearthur97424 жыл бұрын
Pure knowledge.
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments
@TheDaf95xf4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic 👍🏻
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
TXS for the comments
@johnclancy98605 жыл бұрын
great how to video, what is the small tool used to cut the v for the Loctite material?
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
TXS for the comments, we call it a Dremel, it driven by an electrical motor with flex cable.... Used for all kind of small work.
@akaxl2 жыл бұрын
fair play for fixing, did your fix work 3 years on
@D3Sshooter2 жыл бұрын
It sure did and still does
@bobkelly99255 жыл бұрын
Great video, however, the music is so loud I have a hard time hearing what you are saying. Please reduce the music volume. Thanks.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Really, that is strange... but its a good tip... I will consider it for the next video's. That is the kind of comments I really appreciate, so that I can correct things
@HillbillyRednecking5 жыл бұрын
The head is a Lock-n-stitch candidate
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
TXS for the comment, so far it has been holding, the question is how long
@rajasarosh66325 жыл бұрын
Hi mate I want to know that which degreasing liquid you use .
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
I use isopropanol, its a alcohol that you can get at the local pharmacy.
@rajasarosh66325 жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter thanks buddy.
@yoeunratha88444 жыл бұрын
Cleaning
@manfromthemist19583 жыл бұрын
belta bro
@StewsChannel4 жыл бұрын
Belzona has a product that works really well for fixing cracks and gaps as well. Belzona is kinda pricey though...
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, will need to check that out txs
@Dragan6076 жыл бұрын
Where the connection is for the temperature clock.
@D3Sshooter6 жыл бұрын
Dragan Stanojevic that is on the part that is removed from the fromt as i needed to rinse the channels. Goood catch
@jjt10935 жыл бұрын
Would Chemical metal also work too ? I have a crack in the same spot and the old repair made god knows when is starting to flake off, We don't have the loctite you used in Finland
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
I would not know, I tried loctite as a test and it still holds up. The best thing is to get it welded but be very carefull as you need to heath up the block first and then weld , allowing to cool down very slowely... else it will crack/
@jjt10935 жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter ok thanks for that I'll try that paste or chemical metal which after reading is pretty much the same, I had 4 valves completely stuck so I think I found my compression problem :) now redone only the crack left and new oil and she should start
@cubleycat3 жыл бұрын
Hi how did the repair go, is it still going 2 years later?
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Yep , still running.... no issue so far... I am surprised
@cubleycat3 жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter Wow absolutely brilliant work ,well done :)
@jamesmckay99664 жыл бұрын
Great video. Please forget the Music. Thanks. You are Special.
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I will
@charleswittmer24774 жыл бұрын
Personally a more liquid product like jb weld will flow into the small imperfections much better in my opinion. Also there are very good cast iron soldering rods available now for this type of repair. I don't like to grind with springs and parts in the head as you will never get all the tiny metal shavings out of the cavity and in and around the springs and seals.
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments... Indeed, but as I stated " I wanted to try this out" and so far 2 years in use with no issues
@steveallen54965 жыл бұрын
I still shoot my old D3S too. Bought new in 2008, still as good as D4 D5.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Steve Allen yep Me to
@phillipmiller41394 жыл бұрын
How is the engine holding up??
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, and so far , almost two years still running fine.. Done about 100Hr
@mattiel91566 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@D3Sshooter6 жыл бұрын
matias lorenzo txs
@tomaszzysk35576 жыл бұрын
Where i can get parts from this engine?
@johndowe70035 жыл бұрын
steinertractorparts
@lamothealain99485 жыл бұрын
this engine was french , made by 'hotchkiss. old brant of french cars...
@lamothealain99485 жыл бұрын
the "MF 35 " was sold everywhere with an english engine "perking" 3 cyl "AD3 152". in france, it was sold with a 4 cyl "standard hotchkiss 23C." french engine...
@MikeL-vu7jo4 жыл бұрын
Well thats better than buying a new CH
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments
@rogeronslow14984 жыл бұрын
You are brave spending hours on that head. It looks like scrap to me.
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, i wanted to try it. It was a test and it still runs after two years
@rogeronslow14984 жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter Oh well I suppose it was worth it then. I just hate band-aiding engines if I can avoid it, but sometimes one has no choice I suppose.
@ehsnils5 жыл бұрын
I would have taken apart the head completely and at least checked the valves, seats and guides just because it's a good opportunity to do that.. Citric acid can be used to remove rust residue in cooling channels.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Good points, txs
@johnerway72555 жыл бұрын
Dye or mag-flux can show the cracks.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
TXS for the tip and comments...
@jjt10935 жыл бұрын
Just an update I ended up using JB weld So will see next week if it holds up >:)
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Great, keep us posted. Mine is still holding up very well
@v8purple5 жыл бұрын
so? does it work?
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Perfect so far, I hope it will last a long time. But we will see
@Mercmad5 жыл бұрын
I dont which country you are in but heads and other parts are easy to find here in Australia . 😂
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Mercmad txs. In Belgium /Europe there are no new heads available since 2 years. maybe i should visit your beautiful country. Australia. And pick one up while there.
@pilous605 жыл бұрын
Very nice vidéo, but just one thing. Never hit a hammer with another hammer. It's steel and it could break and a shine it's very dangerous. A friend lost an eye making this mistake. Take a bronze throw for place the frost plate
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip
@TheByard5 жыл бұрын
Yes I taught never hit a hammer with a hammer as they can shatter and splinter. As you suggest always use a hammer and drift. Long time ago I saw a guy repairing heads and blocks by stitch drilling and laying in metal, cant quite remember what next but think he tapped it in.
@gerin19463 жыл бұрын
HIIiii Steve (younger then me yes !) This is a PERKINS engine ....? I think so ! For the engine bloc I would metal lock it making (on the lathe) cast-iron plugs using the special paste or "LOCK-TITE" For the head I would of tried brazing (welding torch Oxy-Acet.) Rocker gasket
@gerin19463 жыл бұрын
Went off alone sorry !!! type of cork (put in slightly warm water ....Copper washers (injectors --) red hot and throw them in cold water to make the copper soft ! N.B.: I hope you do reed the comments...? And answer some ...?
@gerin19463 жыл бұрын
n the injector side of the cylinder head I would do the same as if it was the engine block !!! Gasket (cylinder head linseed oil warm +) 2 to 3 minute !!
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, and its a BL block. So far it has been holding up for over one year. This was a test
@D3Sshooter3 жыл бұрын
I do read them Marcel, however I have so many comments that it takes some time to go through
@derek8765444 жыл бұрын
Never heard core plugs called anti frost plates before
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments , that is what they call them in Vlaanderen... wrong but we do lol
@mikemmikem27583 жыл бұрын
I agree that no music is necessary.
@lukajandric15324 жыл бұрын
Im growing with YUGOSLAVIA copi of MF and i hawe today 1 mf 35 and 3 copi Great machine OLD GREY FERGIE😁😁😁 und all copi this
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
That is great, I am sure that you enjoy your fergy
@lukajandric15324 жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter om making 1000 engine hours everi year
@JonDingle4 жыл бұрын
I would have tried welding up those cracks with Oerlikon SuperFonte NI welding rods rather than using a filler which all that cold metal repairs are.
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
TXS for the comments indeed that mould have been an option, but i wanted to check the locate out and it worked m even after using the tractor for many hours
@guesswhotoo65 жыл бұрын
fyi.... welding cast iron not such a big deal with arc welder, right settings, and a little method practice. main idea is small sections at a time with cooling time between.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
guesswhotoo6 , txs and great tips. If i will have to weld it, i will place in the BBQ and slowly heath it up (Oklahoma Smoker). Weld and let it cool down by slowly lowering the temperature in the bbq. Using a gas burner in the fire compartment
@phlodel5 жыл бұрын
I like to TIG weld cast iron using nickel rod. It's expensive but welds very nicely. A little pre heat and slow cooling is in order.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
phlodel txs and another great tip
@billsmith82384 жыл бұрын
What's your dog's name?
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, fleur like flower
@TheNiekerk5 жыл бұрын
Cummins 2.8/3.8 isf project
@kaba_me4 жыл бұрын
It' will crack in a matter of days. This thing is for temporary repairs only. Brazing would be the right fix for this.
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
It might and if it does then we will do a weld job, remember this was a test and so far it just worked. TXS for he comments
@electronite79345 жыл бұрын
I believe you had put thease frost plugs up-side down.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
vestaxrc4 I dont think so. It might be in the video just to see if they fit. But would need to check. Txs
@electronite79345 жыл бұрын
If this plug is straight cup, then it goes bottom part facing inwards. If it is like a dome, then also convex side should go inwards. Because it works kinda like a spring.
@phlodel5 жыл бұрын
D3Sshooter You put them in correctly. Your explanation is right on.
@irvinslagter82985 жыл бұрын
@@phlodelgreed!!
@irvinslagter82985 жыл бұрын
That's AGREED!
@g41thomas5 жыл бұрын
That loctite is Epoxy paste and I have a lot of experience using that product I am sad to tell you that it is very little chance that it will hold long term. The best solution would be aluminum welding braze sticks which with proper brazing torch would have done much better job...
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Getreal for your very useful comments. As I have mentioned before, the use of Locite was and is a test. So far , it holds and the tractor has been running about 40 Hours. So far no issue. But as you state , how long will the Locite last is yet an open question. Time will tell, and note that I do not or would not sell a tractor with this type of fix.
@MFKR6965 жыл бұрын
You should have used brazing for those crack repairs. Using epoxy to fix a cracked head is like putting a band-aid on a crushed-femur.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
TXS, yes i know... Still wanted to test it. And its still holding after 56 hours of running. Lets see how long... But you are right
@MFKR6965 жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter I'm all for experimentation, but I'm even more for doing what's known to work the first time. Especially when there are already plenty of people who have tested these epoxies and found them wanting. You would only have to braze those cracks once, and when I'm repairing something, I'm a "one and done" kind of guy. I only want to have to do any given repair once. Anything more is just wasting time and money to me, no offence intended. Then again, I'm a welder/fabricator by trade and a Veteran, so that's pretty inherent. I'm probably the only guy you'll ever meet who'll tear down a brand new bench-vise just to make sure it's 100% squared-away, deburred and greased up. I'm all about efficiency, as well, and testing ways that are known not to work instead of going with what is known to work is kind of backwards. With KZfaq being what it is, and with at least 100 'Tubers who have already undertaken this experiment and found Epoxy products to be entirely insufficient unless you're fixing something made of wood, it's really not necessary to do it again. 2-part wet (clear) epoxies are great for things like broken guitar headstocks, cracked guitar bodies and infusing it into nice looking pieces of wood that might be too far gone, structurally speaking. For fixing metal, just grab yourself a brazing torch or welder. Dry "paste-type" kneading epoxy, I have found, is absolutely useless for anything but half-assing a repair. If I have a piece of steel with defects or cracking in it, I'm gonna weld it, and if I ever have problems involving cast-iron, I just break out the brazing torch and some Silicon Bronze filler, which works wonders on cast items, as well as joining dissimilar metals.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
@@MFKR696 TXS, and yes you are right... But like a stated, I just wanted to see for myself... I am hardheaded :) :) ... No offence at all... That is why we have conversations....
@MFKR6965 жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter Fair enough.
@123hirth4 жыл бұрын
I think you could have brazed it too
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, indeed. but i wanted to test this loctide
@randypopperwell21835 жыл бұрын
you should have used brass freeze plugs
@lyndonwilliams2684 жыл бұрын
it’s not good to repair a broken head when it’s reach temperature it will open
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, as I stated before this was something I wanted to test, and so far it is running 2 years without an issue
@terminaldiagnostics55765 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you stitched the cylinder head the old fashioned way much better repair and will stand the test of time never had one leak yet
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Txs , and yes you are absolutely right. I wanted to test the product and do it as a test in another way. Will it last ? Who knows, so far it does and over 40 running hours, so see that patchwork more as a test. If t fails, it will be redone the good old way
@terminaldiagnostics55764 жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter hi just to let you know I try JB weld industrial on a Ford 380 6 cylinder diesel by a core plug as time was of the essence and 3 years on still no leak bearing in mind it was driving a water pump so fresh water constantly flowing engine never really gets hot for (sprinkler system)
@donaldbrown72524 жыл бұрын
frost plugs!
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Hi, that is what we call them in flemish. But I know that these are from casting
@markleman86494 жыл бұрын
that is like putting a band aid on a scratch worst cast iron repair i have ever seen. ( retired mechanic ).
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, yes indeed and as i stated. I just wanted to check this out. Now we are 2 years later and still running. About 75 hours since that day
@hfraat255 жыл бұрын
Bad practice knocking 2 hammers together a danger of splinters as a work mate found to his cost of an eye
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Yes , indeed... you are right...
@K1lostream5 жыл бұрын
Great video, but there's sometimes an annoying background noise., sounds a bit like a dog panting into the mic!
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Yep, you are right . Its my old dog who has breathing problems,,,, sorry will make sure he is in the house next time... Txs
@irvinslagter82985 жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter Got to have an old buddy in the garage with you......good company!
@adrongarretson61955 жыл бұрын
Well hopefully you didn't use that party you would be better off using what these called JB Weld it's much better and you can actually fix cylinders with it and run Pistons through that
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
TXS , I will need to look that up... good tip and much appreciated. So far the Loctide is holding , 40 plus hours of running
@5roundsrapid2635 жыл бұрын
This product and JB Weld are the exact same material, just different manufacturers.
@Mercmad5 жыл бұрын
I repaired a badly damaged Mercedes OM 606 engine with JB weld in the bore (!) . it had swallowed a bolt after some idiot had sabotaged the engine . The broken piston and con rod scored the bore really deeply. I put JB into the crack then used a piston ring to make it the same shape as the bore wall. I thought I should hone the bore just to make sure everything was OK, but the bore Material was softer than the JB weld once it cured. As far as I know it's still running ten years later.
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Mercmad very interesting to read. So there is hope it will last on the mf. Txs
@phlodel5 жыл бұрын
Other methods might be theoretically better but if a repair works well and lasts long enough, it was good enough.
@janpettermarkussen83324 жыл бұрын
Old tractor part you will faind in Norway for chip prise.
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply, I will need to check that out . Great tip
@robertpleijsier96995 жыл бұрын
Hardsolderen met zilver
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
hmmm misschien, als het niet werkt over tijd ga ik het lassen... eerst opwarmen in de gas BBQ en daarna lassen (TIG)
@robertpleijsier96995 жыл бұрын
Dat doe je toch niet met zoiets als gun gum man,,,
@D3Sshooter5 жыл бұрын
Het is een test, en tot nu toe werkt dat .. ben eens benieuwd hoelang
@fasteddy5464 жыл бұрын
I think you put the core plugs in the wrong way round,(frost plates) dome side should goinside so it springs back to form a seal.
@D3Sshooter4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments , I don't think so... they are in like that were,
@fasteddy5464 жыл бұрын
Surely they would have popped when the head got frozen and cracked? Strange.
@fasteddy5464 жыл бұрын
Maybe the cracks were caused by metal fatigue or poor casting?
@fasteddy5464 жыл бұрын
@Peter Lee hi, im beginning to think i may be wrongb on this. Googgle images show them with a diagram for installation. The domes point outward so the flat edges can seat in the casting. This bloke appeared to bash them in and destroy the dome shape,(should have used a socket to knock em in).