Massey Ferguson 23c, Cylinderhead install

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D3Sshooter

D3Sshooter

6 жыл бұрын

This is part 3 of the repair of the MF-35 and addresses the cylinder head installation and rocker shaft

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@sjburns2910
@sjburns2910 4 жыл бұрын
I am full of admiration, not just of your mechanical capability, but your presentation and linguistic skills are superb. Great informative and enjoyable videos.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comments
@Geordo1960
@Geordo1960 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are a pure joy to watch. You make a good speaker and you have a wonderful accent to your English. Thank you for your very entertaining videos!
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words... I try
@GICK117
@GICK117 5 жыл бұрын
Your patience is a wonderful thing. These old tractors are iron art pieces. You treat them as such. Bravo.
@ralphsmull7049
@ralphsmull7049 6 жыл бұрын
Good video! I love old tractors and equipment. It's recycling at the ultimate level. Please continue!
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 6 жыл бұрын
Ralph Smull txs
@johndoe1909
@johndoe1909 5 жыл бұрын
The 23c has a special place in my heart ;-) very good video!
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@tiberiusclaudiusnerogermanicis
@tiberiusclaudiusnerogermanicis 6 жыл бұрын
Enjoying the Massey series. I live in dromore in northern Ireland about 3 miles from Harry Ferguson's farm was. Good to see one of his machines being cared for :)
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 6 жыл бұрын
Phil McKibben TXS For the comments. Maybe i should take a trip to ireland.
@tiberiusclaudiusnerogermanicis
@tiberiusclaudiusnerogermanicis 6 жыл бұрын
D3Sshooter most definitely. Beautiful country.
@Gord19
@Gord19 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for the great content, your channel is the best.
@johnpipping3848
@johnpipping3848 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video series Sir! I am very impressed by your level of English, and that you are so open to learning. Your first video called the rockers “tumblers”, corrected in this video to rockers for example. This is absolutely no criticism! The opposite in fact. Thank you for all your efforts in showing us how to do this job, which I personally will be doing next month. 😀👍👍👍
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@tomicaristic3191
@tomicaristic3191 10 ай бұрын
Može li prevod na Srpsko hrvatski jezik
@jay7605
@jay7605 4 жыл бұрын
Learning some great stuff from you. I have a FE-35 dual clutch dual brakes. Got her running but she's smokey. Needs new all sorts on it. Great watching. Thanks for the time you have put in.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to help, Thanks for comments that is great FE-35
@jeanmayan4047
@jeanmayan4047 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your vidéos ; i have a MF35 to renew and i'm not really good with the motor. But now i have understood many things to make a good job .I saw the vidéos three or for times and now i feel OK to make something on the motor . Your vidéos rest close to me !!!! Thanks from France.
@TheDaf95xf
@TheDaf95xf 4 жыл бұрын
Evening Steve. Can’t believe it’s passed midnight in the uk 🇬🇧 and I’m still watching your videos lol 😆 Love what your doing 👍🏻 Cheers Stevie 😎🇬🇧
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 4 жыл бұрын
txs for the comments I am still working on some projects
@hermannordby2131
@hermannordby2131 4 жыл бұрын
Have two 35 on our farm. Great tractors! This one is beutiful!
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Txs for the comments, are they still in use ?
@Melicoy
@Melicoy 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Very nice restoration.
@ethicalfarmer7424
@ethicalfarmer7424 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent job!
@gerin1946
@gerin1946 3 жыл бұрын
Hiii Steve -- back again to follow !!! First for everyone.....25% of mechanic success is the cleanliness because it opens the way to precision ....Mechanic best quality is been meticulous and good order and good sequence of work. (Steve is just that :)
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! and yes indeed...
@kerrygleeson4409
@kerrygleeson4409 5 жыл бұрын
Great work thanks for sharing
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@bsteleven
@bsteleven 5 жыл бұрын
While working at an International Harvester dealership years ago I worked under a man who was exempted from being drafted into WWII because the draft board considered him essential to keep our local farmer's machinery repaired as not many farm machinery parts were available during time. When I assembled my first engine under his guidance he told me to cleaning the top of the block and the head, the final wipe down was with rubbing alcohol. Then spray 2 coats of silver paint on both sides of the head gasket. I never asked him why he just said it's good insurance to seal everything up. A couple years ago I was reading somewhere (Smokestack &engine aids I think) about the use of silver paint on Aircraft engine head gaskets in WWII, they did this so they could reuse the head gaskets because of supply shortages in the pacific theater of war so I guessed that's where my mentor got the idea. I still spray paint them, especially on small air cooled lawn mower engines I reuse them all the time as long as they don't delaminate when the engine is torn down.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
Jerry Elven , great comments Jerry. Something i learned just now. Silver paint. Very interesting. Txs for sharing
@jeffreynolds3848
@jeffreynolds3848 5 жыл бұрын
Jerry - first off, thanks very much for this piece of social history. I’m guessing the silver paint is that made using aluminium flakes and it’s this that gives the gaskets just that little bit more body for re-use as well as as a releasing agent of sorts... My father did his Nation Service in the British Army REME 1945-47. He served all over post WW2 Europe, servicing/repairing all kinds of vehicles in all conditions. One of his many tips was to explain grease as just oil in talcum powder and great to use & re-use on any non-metallic gasket, like valve covers. Gaskets so treated seem to release with a ‘snap’ and never stick/delaminate with the residue of the grease giving just a little bit more body to the gasket for re-use, a bit like your silver paint... Included in his many tales was using one of the heavier repaired trucks to ‘rope’ the Officers Mess, pull it off it’s temporary standing and tow it down the runway...
@jjt1093
@jjt1093 4 жыл бұрын
I have enjoyed your vids on this tractor it helped out with mine big time, After all the issues I had, It ended up being the fuel pump that was no good anymore, even after rebuilding it, New pump is quite expensive so I traded it away for a B250 international which is working fine I rebuilt just as much as you have here and that damn pump was the whole problem:( sadly
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, good to see that you also preserve the past
@jjt1093
@jjt1093 4 жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter The B250 is a 1958 :) still works well.
@bertrandcamus3666
@bertrandcamus3666 4 ай бұрын
Very perfect tution
@Logjam5
@Logjam5 5 жыл бұрын
Good series.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
thanks
@garikaizvemhara1775
@garikaizvemhara1775 5 жыл бұрын
Uuuh
@will-preece792
@will-preece792 2 жыл бұрын
Grait video now i know how to set my torque on my 35 thabk you very mutch
@buddyboy1953
@buddyboy1953 5 жыл бұрын
Never could learn those metric numbers !!! In the States, its pounds and ounces lol. Another great video thanks,Ken
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
Ken Harvey i know , same thing here but the reverse always need to calculate metric to imperial. Txs for your comment
@daithi007
@daithi007 5 жыл бұрын
All science and engineering in America is done in metric. Only high school kids and shade tree mechanics use imperial. You should try and throw off the last vestiges of your Imperial overlords, lol. Adopt metric today!
@jeffreynolds3848
@jeffreynolds3848 5 жыл бұрын
Dave - you haven’t lived unless you’ve worked with BSF, BSW and BA screws....
@johnpipping3848
@johnpipping3848 3 жыл бұрын
I’m lucky enough (and old enough!!!) to completely understand both imperial and metric systems having spent my school days learning the cumbersome and difficult former, and the rest of my life using the simple, efficient and easy latter. Whilst anyone will use the system they are familiar with in preference because they are always reluctant to change, once you go metric you’ll never want to go back to imperial, believe me. In the case of old British or American machinery of course, you are stuck with the old style measurements, but in most cases there is a metric tool size that will fit at a pinch (literally). I have sets of sockets and spanners of both systems, so no problem either way. So for those of you in America, you shouldn’t look at metric as an ogre. It’s truly so much simpler and more straightforward system which you should try. 😀
@iamrichrocker
@iamrichrocker 5 жыл бұрын
you are the Bob Ross of engines...
@rebeccadewhurst3064
@rebeccadewhurst3064 3 жыл бұрын
Tony Dewhurst Always oil the threads of the head bolts to get a true tension without any bolt binding.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments
@rogermcneil9280
@rogermcneil9280 5 жыл бұрын
i used to repair a lot of those old tractors. I always replaced the long and short bolts when replacing the head as i found some of those bolts would stretch over time.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
Txs and indeed that is very good practice.. In fact most manual will recommend it after the old bolds were inspected ( state and lenght). Txs for pointing that out.
@bsteleven
@bsteleven 5 жыл бұрын
I worked at an International Harvester dealership years ago, ( 1972 to 1992), and I must say we never replaced a head bolt unless it was rusted badly or showed other signs of damage, and we never had a failure of an old bolt. But Rod bolts were a different story.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
Jerry Elven txs, i believe that this is common sense. We also check for damage/rust and lenght. If either one was of , we replaced it. As you stated. Later and more recently stretch bolds are used and those must be replaced , you cant re-use them
@alfredtetzlaff7764
@alfredtetzlaff7764 5 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Germany!!!
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you and greetings from Vlaanderen
@milkmanpeter
@milkmanpeter 5 жыл бұрын
I had rebuilt 1967 Massey Ferguson 4cly backhoe engine. It has like 16 piston rings on each piston
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
Really, that is a lot... must be for sure not using any oil
@milkmanpeter
@milkmanpeter 5 жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter hi compression diesel
@ehsnils
@ehsnils 5 жыл бұрын
The pushrods aren't that sensitive to wear, they aren't directly riding on the cam, they link to the cam followers and the cam followers are what has to be matched to the cam. But the pushrods may differ a bit in length so it's just a good habit to keep them in order.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
Txs, and indeed...
@jeffreynolds3848
@jeffreynolds3848 5 жыл бұрын
D3Sshooter - just ran into your channel & Sub’d earlier today; enjoying everything about your channel & posts. On the subject of cleaning/flattening surfaces like cylinder head & block and wheels & hubs, etc. - I include Stanley knife (box-cutter) blades in my kit. I find it helpful to use varying degrees of sharpness, depending on the job. You can even get a ‘holder’, normally for scraping paint off glass... With regard to keeping any parts in order, like pushrods, head or any bolts, I push these through polystyrene meat trays (or fruit/veg. if you are vegetarian) before ultimately re-cycling these trays.
@geraldswain3259
@geraldswain3259 6 жыл бұрын
Hi,just subscribed,really enjoyed this Fergy head series ,may I ask what part of the world you are living in?.Looking forward to more videos, meanwhile I will catch up with the back log . Regards Gerald swain.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 6 жыл бұрын
Gerald Swain , hi gerald. Txs. I live in Belgium and you ?
@Pjn77
@Pjn77 8 ай бұрын
Hi I have just seen your videos a few years later.and well done and we'll explained.. Did you need to enlarge the head fuel chambers to aid starting as helps 23c engines . Yours has a cold climate head which are rare here unless you have fitted the extra heater plugs . .
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 8 ай бұрын
TXS for the comments, no I did not. It came as it is
@daithi007
@daithi007 5 жыл бұрын
I like your Belgian accent.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
TXS Dave, its Flemish
@blairguinea6811
@blairguinea6811 5 жыл бұрын
D3Sshooter number 1
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
TXS
@ianvella2928
@ianvella2928 4 жыл бұрын
Hi D3 i like your videos. do you know maybe where to buy that frost plug the cylinder head have in the middle ? and do all the standard engines take the same torck please? i have a fe35 1957.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, frost plugs are very common, just measure the diameter and most stores can provided you with the correct size. This is nothing special. I would expect that all engines of the same type and cylinder head require the same torck, or that is at least what `i know about it .
@michelcomiot6014
@michelcomiot6014 5 жыл бұрын
Hi terrific series - I would have annealed the head gasket ?. I saw your answer on lapping valves etc and maybe the answer is the same .....
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, and yes that might be the same answer
@trafalgar22a8
@trafalgar22a8 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice thorough head assembly. 05OCT2018
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
TXS
@gerin1946
@gerin1946 3 жыл бұрын
Cast-iron stabilize with age (the younger the cylinder head the more courteous one must be when torqueing the bolts) The price of the big lathe is principal due to the age of the bench (are laying out in sun rain snow for years for the cast-iron to stabilize getting the tensions released ) I think Steve will agree ...?
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 3 жыл бұрын
I do indeed\ Thank you for the comments
@markamcampbell6340
@markamcampbell6340 5 жыл бұрын
a couple of those valves looked like they were sunk in a little on the head when you had it upside down.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
markam campbell yes indeed but still sufficiently
@TheRebelOne.
@TheRebelOne. 5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying this MF engine rebuild. I have one question. When you carried out all the work on the cylinder head repair why did you not check the valve seats for cracks and lap the valves. Thankyou!
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
TheRebelOne txs. I did check it. Just didnt capture it
@TheRebelOne.
@TheRebelOne. 5 жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter Thanks....😁
@milkmanpeter
@milkmanpeter 5 жыл бұрын
Why didnt you leave paper towels in cyl when sanding
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
Peter DeCarlo indeed very good point. In de video it did not show but i did. Txs for the comment
@douro20
@douro20 5 жыл бұрын
Who made that torque wrench? I've never seen any other like that.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
douro20 I belive its a Beta tool from some time ago
@chrisparnell6343
@chrisparnell6343 4 жыл бұрын
Does this change any from the 3cylinder Perkins? I have a blown head gasket.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 4 жыл бұрын
The principle should be the same, timing is different .
@1995jug
@1995jug 6 жыл бұрын
Good job maybe a little oil on the threads would help with the torque.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 6 жыл бұрын
joe tiller txs joe. Yes indeed
@horitson
@horitson 5 жыл бұрын
D3Sshooter just a little film of oil between washer and nut/bolt head to avoid friction so the torgue is in the specs
@evanpenny348
@evanpenny348 5 жыл бұрын
Joe Tiller: I've also been advised to put a dab of silicone on the end of the bolts to ensure that cooling water does not escape up the stem of the head bolt. Seems a bit "bush" to me, but the engineer who advised this was a very experienced engine rebuilder.
@valdemir.nunesnunes9788
@valdemir.nunesnunes9788 3 жыл бұрын
I from Brazil
@agatemaster1998
@agatemaster1998 5 жыл бұрын
How would waterless coolant go since it doesn’t freeze or boil and not pressurise when it heats up it won’t pressurise the cooling system with that loctite liquid metal and blow it out
@ehsnils
@ehsnils 5 жыл бұрын
Waterless - that's when you have a Deutz or VW Bug engine. All liquids expand when heated, so it would still be a pressurized system. And other liquids may come with other problems like damaged hoses and seals.
@agatemaster1998
@agatemaster1998 5 жыл бұрын
ehsnils it runs at a much lower pressure than water and has a higher boiling point at 190’c which means it lowers internal pressures
@davidellis279
@davidellis279 4 жыл бұрын
I would have removed those studs from the block and cleaned that block face properly because any crap stuck to it will make the head gasket fail. I would have also replaced ALL the Core Plugs at the same time because they corrode like crazy especially if the engine has been run without Antifreeze as it obviously has because that is what caused the engine to freeze and crack in the first place, prevention being better than cure every time for me but some people Never Learn and this is what happens, all that grief for about half a gallon of Antifreeze.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, indeed
@zephyrold2478
@zephyrold2478 5 жыл бұрын
Hi About the cracks, they can be welded with TIG and siliconbronce filler.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
Zephyr Old txs. Good to know. If it brakes then i will give thst atry
@zephyrold2478
@zephyrold2478 5 жыл бұрын
Also stumbled upon this, good comments kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oeCSlrmTl7vdnXU.html
@scottyjones27
@scottyjones27 5 жыл бұрын
Push rods n block on lifters n lifters fit on cam? Wood u need to run engine to pump up lifters b for adjusting valves the reason some rockers r tight is lobe on cam is up
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, cam is low in the engine block ,driven by the crankshaft-cam chain. Rods rest on that cam and push the valves down through the rockers or thumblers... TXS
@geosutube
@geosutube 5 жыл бұрын
Should not all torque settings be measured “dry?”
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments, I believe so
@MikeL-vu7jo
@MikeL-vu7jo 4 жыл бұрын
This is the result of why not to put strait water in the cooling system with out a glycol mix and then let it sit outside and freeze
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@lotharbieling8996
@lotharbieling8996 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, can anybody tell me the correct piston ring gap orientation for this engine? Thanks :)
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 4 жыл бұрын
Let me check
@lotharbieling8996
@lotharbieling8996 4 жыл бұрын
@@D3Sshooter Thank you
@paxtonspeed
@paxtonspeed 5 жыл бұрын
Is that a perkins diesel?
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
paxtonspeed no its a leyland c23
@chapleaudick
@chapleaudick 5 жыл бұрын
the only thing you forgot is assembly lube
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
chapleaudick Good remark, however it was sprayed with lube. I should have shown it and stated it
@tomicaristic7577
@tomicaristic7577 3 жыл бұрын
Imam ovakav traktor 1959 moze li prevod na srpski jezik,hvala
@sherwoodmaxwell7509
@sherwoodmaxwell7509 5 жыл бұрын
The extension changes t he torque some,if possible don't use extension.
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
TXS, and indeed that is a good point
@jeffreynolds3848
@jeffreynolds3848 5 жыл бұрын
D3Sshooter - everything you already explained about torquing the head bolts was very clearly and well presented. I’d like a separate post on all the tips collected on best use of the torque-wrench. Your head bolt #4 did suggest some of the pitfalls to be overcome....
@valdemir.nunesnunes9788
@valdemir.nunesnunes9788 3 жыл бұрын
I need a connecting rod from the Massey Ferguson fe 35 4 cylinders. you have it in stock, please return, thank you
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 3 жыл бұрын
I don't sorry
@hamidaalami9215
@hamidaalami9215 5 жыл бұрын
Khank you
@D3Sshooter
@D3Sshooter 5 жыл бұрын
My Pleasure
@tomicaristic7577
@tomicaristic7577 2 жыл бұрын
Moze li prevod na hrvatski jezik
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