Replacing broken shaft in conveyor roller.

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Snowball Engineering

Snowball Engineering

Жыл бұрын

In this video I replace the shaft in a conveyor roller. The original shaft had snapped where it had been welded in, the weld had caused it to be brittle. A new bigger diameter 35mm shaft was used to help eliminate the weak point.
The first job was to cut out the old shaft with the oxy torch then remove the old end plates. I cut away as much as I could without damaging the outer roller but it was difficult to find the separation line without burning the roller, the second end was removed with the arc air gouger giving a faster and better result.
Once the old welds had been ground down, 2 new end plates were cut out with the cnc plasma then machined to size using the lathe.
The new 35mm shaft was then cut to length in the chop saw then both ends were turned down to 25mm in the lathe. A new keyway was also cut into the shaft using the milling machine.
Once all the machining had been done, the roller, end plates and shaft were assembled and tacked into place. The rolled was checked with the dial gauge to make sure it was within tolerance. The ends and shaft were then preheated before welding. And that’s the good complete.
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@johnhorton178
@johnhorton178 Жыл бұрын
Why didn't you fabricate a complete replacement
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering Жыл бұрын
Because I didn’t have any tube. The time I’d spend ringing around suppliers finding the right size and someone who’d sell me 950mm instead of a full length. My time was better spent reusing the old.
@jayslife775
@jayslife775 Жыл бұрын
​@@snowballengineeringI agree there mate, I would have used the old pipe too. Everyone's so quick to throw stuff away these days when a little persistency and skill can save stuff from the scrap heap.
@derekblake9385
@derekblake9385 Жыл бұрын
This job is 100% adequate, absolutely no need for a complete new roller so why would you need a whole new replacement 🙄
@stjepanvorkapic1430
@stjepanvorkapic1430 10 ай бұрын
​@@derekblake9385because less job is to do a new piece than disassemble old one, but in case if you have no material it is reasonable decision
@johnekins4408
@johnekins4408 10 ай бұрын
Could you have cut out the ends with a lathe?
@kirkpowell6161
@kirkpowell6161 Жыл бұрын
I am 57 and still learning the "best way" to tackel jobs!I think your approach was spot on, use the tools already out and set up, then switch if it's not going well. Great video, love the shirts.
@johncollier7744
@johncollier7744 Жыл бұрын
Another great video. I love your techniques using just basic equipment. But at the end of the day you got the job done.
@davidsnyder2000
@davidsnyder2000 Жыл бұрын
Liked and subscribed my friend 👍 Great video….I’m not a machinist or fabricator, but I am an autobody man of 33yrs. From what I see in your videos, you do a really good job at everything you do. You have lots of experience. Thank you for all the extra work to film, edit and upload these videos. I seem to learn something new with each one. Thanks again my friend, from David here in the States👍🙂
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering Жыл бұрын
Thanks David!
@dregenius
@dregenius Жыл бұрын
I love how your danger-wand has the primary flame, but then it also has fun little secondary flames too! 😅
@RalfyCustoms
@RalfyCustoms Жыл бұрын
Nicely done as always, Oliver buddy, good honest repair, I used to work in quarry maintenance and we did tons of these, Oddly enough I actually worked in a conveyor factory at one time too 😀
@bostedtap8399
@bostedtap8399 Жыл бұрын
Good repair, spot on welding on larger diameter, though if I may comment, larger root radi on shaft, and polishing to reduce likely initiation of cracks. Great video and photography, thanks for sharing. Best regards from the Black Country. John
@frfrpr
@frfrpr Жыл бұрын
I like the logos. Look pretty good. Your filming and editing are spot-on. Thanks
@jimlong527
@jimlong527 9 ай бұрын
Do it once and do it right. It’s what makes you a professional. Thank for the video.
@Invinciblemoam
@Invinciblemoam Жыл бұрын
Top work again mate, I’m a fitter in a similar industry down south. When our machine shop makes rollers they always put a small hole somewhere to relieve any pressure during welding. It may save you a swollen piece of tube 👍👍
@yeagerxp
@yeagerxp Жыл бұрын
Excellent work 👍👍👍 . Thank you for sharing. Take care of yourself 🇨🇦
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
It's always a joy to watch your work.
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek Жыл бұрын
Nice job! At first, I thought that was we were seeing the flail mower roller again! 😂 When a machine has a weak spot it certainly makes sense to improve the design when it fails and has to be repaired. I like the logo on the shirts. The light grey isn't bad. Nice!
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering Жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruce!
@brucecliffe6213
@brucecliffe6213 Жыл бұрын
Another nice simple job well done Olly. Good videoing and commentary. Thanks for sharing mate.
@kenjohnston1996
@kenjohnston1996 5 ай бұрын
Only new to channel . This man has a great pair of hands your work is fantastic
@gav2759
@gav2759 Жыл бұрын
"Bit of a farmer made roller"🤣👍Been there... Great work again thanks for posting.
@FinnoUgricMachining
@FinnoUgricMachining Жыл бұрын
Good video, thank You. One minor thing that might be worth mentioning. When a shaft likes to snap off like that it is because it first developes a crack and then snaps off. Cracks like to start from sharp corners. From what I saw, You just created a sharp corner at exactly the place where the shaft likes to snap. Since You were already at the lathe it would not have been too difficult to create a radius instead of the sharp shoulder there is now,
@jasonneedham6734
@jasonneedham6734 Жыл бұрын
Bad design in the beginning. But easy said, when I have done farq all, meself. And we don't know what or how bearings etcetera arre fitted.
@brucecliffe6213
@brucecliffe6213 Жыл бұрын
That's a good tip for future reference Finno. Thank you for the heads up.
@normesmonde5332
@normesmonde5332 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Watching this here in Australia on The Kings Birthday Holiday😊
@cardinal24
@cardinal24 Жыл бұрын
Hoodie was oki, but I'd lose the other "logos" and only keep your own, looks better that way, and Greetings from Sweden :D
@peterantonic6923
@peterantonic6923 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for uploading this video, job really well done. Watching from Perth Western Australia 😁👍🇦🇺
@MadMods4u
@MadMods4u Жыл бұрын
Nice work... Thanks for sharing the video 👍
@klebercunhasilva635
@klebercunhasilva635 Жыл бұрын
Moro no Brasil acompanho seu canal há muito tempo.
@gbentley8176
@gbentley8176 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent watch and learn. Thank you.
@kenwood8665
@kenwood8665 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant video
@barney2633
@barney2633 Жыл бұрын
Another interesting and informative video. Good work.
@rudyrivera7426
@rudyrivera7426 Жыл бұрын
Great job! Thanks for sharing! 👌👍
@stevechambers34
@stevechambers34 Жыл бұрын
Great repair that will last a lot longer than the original job did 👍
@TheRossi48
@TheRossi48 Жыл бұрын
Good job my friend. Thank's
@greggmitchell3236
@greggmitchell3236 11 ай бұрын
New viewer from Otley, West Yorkshire, loving your work!
@mingthemerciless6855
@mingthemerciless6855 Жыл бұрын
I like your "over engineer" mentality. The short sleeve Polo looks good and I agree the hoodie needs more work. Cheers!
@gabe1254
@gabe1254 11 ай бұрын
I’ve made these with a continuous shaft as well but with taper lock bushings at each end. Makes it serviceable. One I even repurposed sprockets that had the taper bushings already (turned down on lathe to fit inside tube, cut teeth off obviously…).
@IanHurford
@IanHurford 9 ай бұрын
Top Class job as always.
@andyscott2806
@andyscott2806 Жыл бұрын
Another great video, keep em coming !!
@spencermcginty9812
@spencermcginty9812 Жыл бұрын
Good work as always! The hoodie is pretty slick!
@raygreene73
@raygreene73 Жыл бұрын
Great quality work sir
@globalsurfer
@globalsurfer 10 ай бұрын
Masterful... good job!
@thepagan5432
@thepagan5432 Жыл бұрын
Good job, no need to complicate things. The original cracked shaft looked like a shock loading fault, I've seen a few of those years ago with the NCB equipment. Nice clean repair, shirts look good. Be safe keep well 👍
@MattysWorkshop
@MattysWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Gday, I think it was worth the extra effort to make the shaft stronger, it does get hard working out what tool best to use on a job, the tee shirt design looks good and the hoodie definitely needs the YT/Instagram symbol to be smaller, great job mate, cheers
@RalfyCustoms
@RalfyCustoms Жыл бұрын
Gday Matty, great channel and good honest work here my mate, nice seeing you out and about on youtube 👍
@bombardier3qtrlbpsi
@bombardier3qtrlbpsi Жыл бұрын
Nice job 👍.
@cstierhoff
@cstierhoff 10 ай бұрын
Nice repair, it will be back for repairs when you're 80.
@AW-Services
@AW-Services Жыл бұрын
Very similar roller to what is found in brunswick bowling machines. I used to have to repair similar jobs where the bearings ceased and ate shaft down to a few millimetres. I ended up making through shafts
@peters4067
@peters4067 Жыл бұрын
Good video mate, a well thought out repair. That’s called a tail drum, and a head drum would have rubber lagging on it. A few things I’ll suggest if you’re ever doing a job like this again, drill and tap the ends of the shaft because you can screw in a lifting eye to help pull the drum through the conveyor belt when fitting. And always machine the shaft down to the desired size for a sweat fit for bearings, if the bearings just slide on they’ll not last as long (depending on the environment of course) I do maintenance on a quarry and work around conveyors all the time
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering Жыл бұрын
They’re some good suggestions. Thanks! This is used for something to do with potatoes (not quite sure what) so it shouldn’t have as hard a life as in a quarry.
@bobhudson6659
@bobhudson6659 Жыл бұрын
Another suggestion. If you have the space and can adjust the ends to suit, on next job put a smooth radius on the transition where the 32mm is machined down to 25mm. As it is the sharp transition is an opportunity for shaft to crack again at this stress riser. As you have mentioned in answer to Peter's comment, this is used for something to do with potatoes. May not be as hard an environment as quarry, but as you are an engineer (I am not) you would be aware that cracking only occurs with flexing from load or where part is subject to vibrations which are long term and close to the natural resonant frequency of the item. Very difficult and expensive (meaning waste of time) to measure for those frequencies but radius will at least mitigate any crack starting. Retired mechanic/machinist in Land Down Under.
@Rubbernecker
@Rubbernecker Жыл бұрын
Great video, and I'm not questioning whether you should have built one from scratch. You're the professional, not me!
@johnwarwick4105
@johnwarwick4105 Жыл бұрын
Good job going to thicker shaft, trick we found some years ago was to weld the end plates on the shaft on the inside only then weld into the rollers. No welds on the outside more applicable when welding stub shafts in the ends of tube rollers.
@leehotspur9679
@leehotspur9679 Жыл бұрын
The best way to do it ,the end plate supports the shaft weldment and stops the flexing stress on the weld itself Thicker the end plate the better as it acts as a hub giving support to the shaft
@gerryboard6615
@gerryboard6615 Жыл бұрын
Good strong fix that will last for ever. Nice merch
@hornetboy3694
@hornetboy3694 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video, thank you
@lovejcdc
@lovejcdc Жыл бұрын
Great video man and I like the new shirt and hoody.
@trevormansfield6740
@trevormansfield6740 Жыл бұрын
Good repair
@BrucePierson
@BrucePierson Жыл бұрын
Nice work with the modification. You shouldn't see that one back again.
@irish-simon
@irish-simon Жыл бұрын
great job nice job when we repair a roller we weld in the shaft and then turn it using a steady to take out any run out from welding
@sackvilleweldingservices
@sackvilleweldingservices Жыл бұрын
Very interesting task young man. I did an auger rebuild recently (Its on Instagram and YT). Much ponderation as you go with jobs like that. Darker grey or black and smaller logo in my opinion.
@ianbrooks6816
@ianbrooks6816 11 ай бұрын
Precision fit!
@KB-dj1rs
@KB-dj1rs 11 ай бұрын
This dude works on metal like it’s wood wow😮
@freddydegodt4757
@freddydegodt4757 4 ай бұрын
We have the same rollers at work , but now we use taperlock system for our axles with beter result then weldet ones .
@jeremyzworld814
@jeremyzworld814 11 ай бұрын
Love it!
@carlsnowball7610
@carlsnowball7610 Жыл бұрын
I think the Shirt and Jumper look great.
@AdelinoGambiarras
@AdelinoGambiarras 10 ай бұрын
Nice I like it👍
@proyectosycnc
@proyectosycnc Жыл бұрын
Good Job!!!!😝😝
@Icebuntrucker
@Icebuntrucker Жыл бұрын
Nice work Oliver . Full time job just working on farm equipment mate .
@marctunney3743
@marctunney3743 Жыл бұрын
Like the hoody but darker grey 👍🏻
@andreassimon2283
@andreassimon2283 11 ай бұрын
Well done, son 🙂🙂🙂
@cheechU38K
@cheechU38K Жыл бұрын
Another fiddly job done well😊love the lightsaber 😝oh and your right about the merch! Maybe a bit more colour in the logo or some shading to make it stand out more.
@philliplopez8745
@philliplopez8745 Жыл бұрын
BRAVO !
@jst.hilaire354
@jst.hilaire354 Жыл бұрын
Warching the 21st century Vulcan in his workshop 🙂
@daireharlin181
@daireharlin181 Жыл бұрын
Great vid, would a mag drill not be quicker to drill out the holes before the plasma
@jongmassey
@jongmassey Жыл бұрын
Nice dual-flame gas axe you've got there ;)
@craigbrooksbank9160
@craigbrooksbank9160 Жыл бұрын
Another great video mate cracking work can you make sure you get some big sizes in the clothing and I will have some
@paulmorrey4298
@paulmorrey4298 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@kevinwalls19
@kevinwalls19 Жыл бұрын
Great video i see you cut the solid bar in the chop saw with one of them carbide blades i cutt a lot of stuff with my chop saw and find that solid stuff destroys my edge i cut all that stuff now with the grinder i even turn heavy wall box up in the vice and it cuts 10 times faster them blades are €140 were i live and i have destroyed a blade the same day i got it but i can get months now hope this helps
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering Жыл бұрын
Yes, they’re not keen on solid bar
@johnjohnson764
@johnjohnson764 Жыл бұрын
Enjoy your videos. Is that an Elliot mill you have there? JJ
@ruthbees7214
@ruthbees7214 Жыл бұрын
Nice job making it stronger. Over engineered is agood thing. Like the snowball hoodie and tee shirt. I would like to buy a hoodie off you. if you have one for sale.😁 thanks Ruth.
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ruth! I don’t have any for sale yet. I want to be 100% happy with the design before I think about selling them.
@jamiejames5311
@jamiejames5311 Жыл бұрын
Hi, great job what grade of material was the round bar you used
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering Жыл бұрын
En8
@smayjr72
@smayjr72 Жыл бұрын
What make and model is the respirator hood that you use? Love the video's!
@smayjr72
@smayjr72 Жыл бұрын
Bump
@ncut5547
@ncut5547 Жыл бұрын
If u have a 3 point steady for the lathe couldn't u have set that up b4 cutting the bar out then maybe run it up in lathe to clean up etc just wondering...keep up the good work awesome videos..
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering Жыл бұрын
I don’t unfortunately and my lathes too short. A bigger, longer lathe is on list of future purchases. Thanks!
@jamesmcauslan1347
@jamesmcauslan1347 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done 👍 what's the engine in the background? Om606 ?
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering Жыл бұрын
Yes, om606 for a project, not sure what project yet though.
@jamesmcauslan1347
@jamesmcauslan1347 Жыл бұрын
@@snowballengineering looking forward to see that one 👍
@Mrtinkerr
@Mrtinkerr Жыл бұрын
Add taper lock bushings to the end plates. Then they can repair in house.
@juergenfeldheim8953
@juergenfeldheim8953 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a steady rest for your lathe?
@alansawyer1219
@alansawyer1219 3 ай бұрын
I think a new piece of pipe would have been the go! after labour and consumables?
@alanrichardson1672
@alanrichardson1672 Жыл бұрын
One method that may have been easier would be using your lathe with a steady, or is your lathe too small?
@adejohnston6831
@adejohnston6831 Жыл бұрын
would it not be more faster to make a new one from scratch ?
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering Жыл бұрын
No. Or I’d of done that 😄
@ita-1245
@ita-1245 Жыл бұрын
I agree Ade. If the roller tube material is available, the whole oxy/arc gouging disassembly process would’ve been eliminated. This was the only salvaged item.
@Rubbernecker
@Rubbernecker Жыл бұрын
@ade johnston, maybe more better two
@raindeergames6104
@raindeergames6104 Жыл бұрын
also depends on customer budget. The materials have become crazy expensive.
@frederickbowdler8169
@frederickbowdler8169 Жыл бұрын
bent shaft bent roller non coded welds expensive gas a new one may be best but that's in hindsight
@Grantherum
@Grantherum Жыл бұрын
Don't know if the pin goes all the way through, at the beginning of the video... but the welds aren't that great on the whole of the part. Proper preheat/blanket cooling should solve some of the issues with the thing I would imagine. But, turd welds, typically means, they didn't do proper welding protocols to ensure the parts weren't compromised when reassembling the previous repair.
@davidtyndall8880
@davidtyndall8880 Жыл бұрын
Would it not have been best to use a "radius" to transition from the smaller portion of the shaft to the larger?
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering Жыл бұрын
Yes, but I didn’t have an appropriate tool. And I thought it’s survived this long with just a welded in shaft so it should last the rest of the machine’s lifetime as is.
@Flowing23
@Flowing23 10 ай бұрын
👍👍
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews Жыл бұрын
Shaft diameter was not the problem. The weld was the problem. It must be the entire circumference instead of two partial welds. I don't know what the application is but the lack of a radius on any shoulder cut into the shaft tends to kick the problem on down the road. I'm sure it will last a very long time. Radius on all cuts is a good practice to maintain.
@Histandard2011
@Histandard2011 Жыл бұрын
Would have the stub shafts have been stronger if you had turned the small are down and left a radius in the corner where the bar went back to full diameter. A shaft will most ofter snap if you have a square shoulder where a small diameter goes to a larger on. Also keep the weld only on the larger diameter of the stub shaft.
@therealspixycat
@therealspixycat Жыл бұрын
Would it fit on your lathe to cut out the two endplates?
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering Жыл бұрын
No, it’s not long enough
@jerrybigrig9475
@jerrybigrig9475 Жыл бұрын
👍😎👍
@jamesriordan3494
@jamesriordan3494 Жыл бұрын
Merch looks good - stickers ? Like these for the tool boxes !
@brianparramore1104
@brianparramore1104 Жыл бұрын
A lot of work just to save that piece of tubing. Making all new from scratch may well have been faster, which means cheaper. If the roller is crowned, then saving it would be the better choice.
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering Жыл бұрын
Not really. If I had the material for a new tube in stock then yes. But by the time I’d spent finding a supplier to supply me with the right size tube that didn’t want to sell me a full 7.5meter length that I’d have no other use for. The less than an hour spent saving the old tube was definitely worth it.
@mangajack
@mangajack Жыл бұрын
the quality of the build is beyond woeful. It had to fail as it did.
@pawemus3990
@pawemus3990 Жыл бұрын
I've repaired several of them, but that it by bore out a broken part by 10-20mm. Then removed rest. Use existing holes and fit new shaft. Then just centralise and weld. At my work I don't have a lot of time to repair parts , production is waiting so I'm utilising as most as possible old parts and use minimal effort and parts to repair. Good movie... to much work. That shaft will snap again if setup incorrectly on c/v.
@snowballengineering
@snowballengineering Жыл бұрын
If I had a big enough lathe I could of removed old shaft and replaced with bigger. However the old ends weren’t welded in particularly well so I think welding in new ends was my best option. Thanks for your opinion. 👍🏻
@WhiskeyGulf71
@WhiskeyGulf71 Жыл бұрын
Ironically the cheapest part ended up being the only remaining part left. You could have maybe just replaced the shaft by air arc gouging out the shaft welds but at least your repair is better than the original 👍🏻
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 Жыл бұрын
The polo with the logo maybe half or two thirds the size would look sharp. That said I'd rather be a channel member for a few quid a month; I don't need another polo etc and shipping ends up being prohibitive.
@johnnym1320
@johnnym1320 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if the bigger shaft is going to be stronger without putting a radius on the transition. Although the weld might have caused the failure in the first shaft
@mikemiller9119
@mikemiller9119 Ай бұрын
Why were the ends that thick? Seemed to be over kill on the thickness.
@therealspixycat
@therealspixycat Жыл бұрын
And build 2 roller stand that you can you to weld this stuf much much easier and also cut it
@jamessbryne
@jamessbryne 11 ай бұрын
Could you have welded the shaft on the inside first and then pushed it through the tube so you have weld both sides.
@AdamCichanowski
@AdamCichanowski Жыл бұрын
😊😊😊
@yonu5983
@yonu5983 Жыл бұрын
I wish I had a Blunt that long, but no, alas it's all good.
@kevinprivet5942
@kevinprivet5942 10 ай бұрын
How do order the 3 button garment?
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