Responding to Star Wars Theory's video denouncing Disney Star Wars (REUPLOAD)

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Sheev Talks

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6 ай бұрын

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@viciousbagel
@viciousbagel 6 ай бұрын
SWT broke into sheev’s house and cut the internet cables
@SudrianTales
@SudrianTales 5 ай бұрын
Well, at least it wasn't organ theft
@psychedelicartistry
@psychedelicartistry 5 ай бұрын
At least they didn't come back for more while he was in the hospital!
@omarimus2260
@omarimus2260 4 ай бұрын
He ate the cables and took all his bricks and screws
@SudrianTales
@SudrianTales 4 ай бұрын
@omarimus2260 well, at least he didn't push granny down the stairs
@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire
@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire 3 ай бұрын
He probably got laid with Sheevs wife as well, otherwise he wouldn't dedicate several hours of his life to him.
@samkoch1038
@samkoch1038 5 ай бұрын
I have to disagree about the notion that the Kenobi show was “the most important story in Disney Star Wars,” because it’s such an unnecessary story to tell. It was laid out pretty clearly at the end of the prequels that Obi Wan drops Luke off with his Aunt and Uncle, and set up camp to watch and hide. There doesn’t need to be ANYTHING ELSE between that and episode 4.
@randomcontentguy2521
@randomcontentguy2521 5 ай бұрын
Pretty sure theory more meant in terms of the characters that were going to be in the show. It had the potential to be the most important show but they butchered it. Luke/leia/kenobi/anakin-vader/ etc. most important characters in Star Wars
@Sandlund93
@Sandlund93 4 ай бұрын
It's not just that it's not needed, it breaks the canon. His whole purpose was to "watch over him". He can't do that if he leaves the planet. Also, his decision to do so almost ended up with Luke being killed. And the fact that he wasn't makes the whole debacle even more ridiculous. If all Reva has known for the last 10 years (or whatever) is hatred and revenge, why did she change in mere seconds? The only reason is that it would break the canon if she killed Luke at that point, so why even have her go there in the first place? I can't believe adult professionals wrote that travesty of a show. And how was she even alive at that point? I can understand that a handful of Jedi survived the assault on the temple. Reva, Grogu and Ahmed Best being 3 of them. But she had survived 2 lightsaber impalements at that point. You'd think Vader would finish the job. Or maybe he needs a third time, her plot armor is strong after all. At this rate, they might as well bring Qui-Gon back, because why the heck not? He was just impaled by a lightsaber after all, Sabine and Reva just brushed that off.
@kirby2567
@kirby2567 3 ай бұрын
My ideal Obi-wan show would maybe contain Yoda and Obi-wan discussing and perhaps investigating the downfall of the Jedi and how to best plan for the future regarding Luke/a rebuilt Jedi order they'll never get to see, a spiritual pilgrimage to deepen his connection to the Force + Qui-Gon Force Ghost; that may have taken Obi-wan off Tatooine IF they could make it clear it was safe to leave Luke alone for a time, more Obi-wan/Anakin flashbacks that actually told a story that could parallel the present adventure for Obi-wan, a CLOSE brush with The Empire but no direct conflict with them, NO VADER, and maybe running into a Jedi or 2 that were missed in Order 66 (who could die or be convinced to lie in wait). A Movie length at best, seeing as he shouldn't be doing much else at this point in time. however this could probably only work if we disregarded all of the terrible CGI series, including Lucas' CW. there's too many of those dopy elements (inquisitors, Ahsoka, Maul, etc.) that would be in action during this era.
@nathanbeverley247
@nathanbeverley247 3 ай бұрын
If anything, they should have followed the story from the Kenobi book from Legends, which was FAR superior to the story in the show.
@kennethferland5579
@kennethferland5579 2 ай бұрын
I would disagree on ONE point, the relationship between Obi-wan and Owen. The prequels completly fail to explore this relationship (and if anything degrade it from what was implied in the OT). Only a rather limited amount could be salvaged in my opinion given that Owen-Anakin is just destroyed by the prequels (I think Owen needed to be an older brother to Anakin atleast in spirit if not by blood).
@anyaabusable9888
@anyaabusable9888 6 ай бұрын
If you really want to have Vader in the Obi Wan show, tell a parallel story of the work of the Inquisitorius under Vader. You can have the two stories running along parallel lines with similar themes, or with Obi Wans story on the decline, and the Empire on the rise. You could even have the Inquisitorius hunting a Jedi, thinking they have ObiWan and when Vader goes to confront him, it's a different Jedi.
@bryanscottmills
@bryanscottmills 6 ай бұрын
That would be very interesting 🙌🏻
@chrisquinn3377
@chrisquinn3377 6 ай бұрын
yeah this wass kinda my idea too, have two storylines running together and show vaders descent into pure evil and show bi wans rise to the jedi we know in anh, this can be done by having them encounter similar problems but the methods of how they resolve them increasingly differs
@user-xx6vy9ri8p
@user-xx6vy9ri8p 6 ай бұрын
Or make Vader/Anakin hunt Obi-Wan's dreams.
@idefinitelytapped7396
@idefinitelytapped7396 6 ай бұрын
That along with not showing Vader as much if you ask me. Look we all know Vader and what he looks like. Have him stalking around at night. Add in some horror elements with Vader. That way every time we do see him in the show we are on the edge with tension. They had Vader front and center for this entire show. Felt very Disney too me.
@vortexalerand9949
@vortexalerand9949 6 ай бұрын
Heck yeah!
@confusedcabal342
@confusedcabal342 6 ай бұрын
When you guys mentioned Plo Koon and baby Ahsoka I remembered- there’s a written and partially storyboarded clone wars episode that was meant to show how he found her- with her family giving her to a bounty hunter pretending to be a Jedi and attempting to stop Plo, who they assumed to be a bounty hunter. If memory serves, the lesson was about not judging people based on their appearances. I genuinely don’t understand why they wouldn’t use this for Tales of the Jedi.
@valthenvega2434
@valthenvega2434 5 ай бұрын
Would sound like a rethread of the Cad Bane pretending to be a Jedi storyline, although the message does sound interesting
@user-kq5ci7ol8o
@user-kq5ci7ol8o 5 ай бұрын
@@valthenvega2434 Bro Imma be honest, as long as I get more Plo Koon (That's well written, which I think is hard to mess up with) I'm happy, guy's a legend, don't bring him back and ruin him mind you, and also don't make a show about him (Unless they get someone that really (And I mean REALLY) cares like they did for Andor), but keep giving me trinkets of the guy being awesome and I'm good
@dancingvalkyrie
@dancingvalkyrie 4 ай бұрын
That still sounds like shit. Almost just as shitty as baby Ahsoka taming a monster.
@kiwikiwi5602
@kiwikiwi5602 2 ай бұрын
i hate to say it because I love you guys but. One section of the starwars fandom calling the other "the reason Harrison ford hates starwars fans" is definitely calling the kettle black.
@alexsantiago3181
@alexsantiago3181 11 күн бұрын
I agree it was a little far
@SoltyII
@SoltyII 6 ай бұрын
Regarding the bricks and screws thing, there was a making of one of the OT movies, where someone was talking how George Lucas was insisting on some things, such as there are no zippers and underwear in space or something of this sort. Which I think was his way of saying I want my project to be visually cohesive.
@ChosenOne-il4bm
@ChosenOne-il4bm 6 ай бұрын
Star Wars theory is a bitch Disney canon is the same has TCW That’s why I like it There no difference Did he watch TCW George and Disney are the same Compared to the EU Written by actual writers
@XavierDaSalla
@XavierDaSalla 6 ай бұрын
George when bricks show up in Andor 😔
@user-xx6vy9ri8p
@user-xx6vy9ri8p 6 ай бұрын
@@XavierDaSalla He doesn't mind, bricks were on Naboo.
@seriousnesstv7902
@seriousnesstv7902 6 ай бұрын
he explained himself in another video where he said it’s not the use of it but the architecture style that looks too modern and feels hyper realistic and less like a galaxy far far away. I think too many people Simp for Andor and assume anyone who hates it does so out of blind love for childishness.
@JacenSolo0
@JacenSolo0 5 ай бұрын
​@@seriousnesstv7902but that's just assuming that everywhere in the star wars galaxy looks 'futuristic' the whole point about the star wars galaxy is there is variation in architecture which makes it interesting. Clearly ferrix is an industrial place where there is a very 'real world' aspect to it. We see that in the prison, coruscant and everywhere else Andor feels futuristic and other worldly. It's entirely childish to focus on these aspects.
@MedalionDS9
@MedalionDS9 6 ай бұрын
I used to defend SWT but his bizarre reactions to Andor, and continual flip flopping and then dumping on it and the fanbase over and over was too much.
@JohnDavidSullivan
@JohnDavidSullivan 6 ай бұрын
People's opinions can change. Enlightening I know.
@MedalionDS9
@MedalionDS9 6 ай бұрын
If you have to change your opinion back and forth multiple times during your expressing it, you are indecisive and not a person to look for to get an opinion on @@JohnDavidSullivan
@unknownentity8489
@unknownentity8489 6 ай бұрын
The guy will dunk on Andor and complain about a minor detail that's inconsequential, yet praise a show like Ahsoka and be baffled by the number of people disliking it. He's all over the place at times, frankly.
@nagger8216
@nagger8216 6 ай бұрын
​@@JohnDavidSullivanAll the time, even more so if you have undiagnosed autism, apparently.
@JohnDavidSullivan
@JohnDavidSullivan 6 ай бұрын
@@nagger8216 well I will do you one better, I actually have diagnosed autism
@animelytical8354
@animelytical8354 6 ай бұрын
I think he thinks the lack of budget reflects a lack of care which reflects in poor writing. It in theory CAN be true, but it isn't. We've seen that with what Marvel have been doing.
@ReignofIndepence
@ReignofIndepence 6 ай бұрын
She Hulk cost more to make than John Wick and the final season of GOT
@robynsun_love
@robynsun_love 5 ай бұрын
A complete rebuttal can be found to this argument through the simple _existence_ of Godzilla Minus One. With a budget of $15 million, Takashi Yamazaki crafted a Godzilla film with comparable emotional poignancy as the original, and with visual effects surpassing those of some Hollywood blockbusters with twenty times its budget.
@George-de6hd
@George-de6hd 5 ай бұрын
He clearly he tries to act like he has a understanding about movies and how there made way more then he actually does ……andor wasn’t filmed on a soundstage(for the most part) but in real world locations and that fact alone is going to make it more expensive then shows like mando ,Ashoka and Kenobi that are mostly shot on a soundstage
@spacemanspud7073
@spacemanspud7073 4 ай бұрын
The problem is that to do proper on location shooting, effects and/or sets within the time constraints of a t.v. pipeline a high budget may be necessary. You need multiple teams working simultaneously to reach those deadlines
@animelytical8354
@animelytical8354 4 ай бұрын
@@spacemanspud7073 I mean...the budget wasn't low, though. Andor required more money because of certain practicalities. SWT seems to think that they should dole out budget based on how many Jedi and Sith feature
@malachiphoniex8501
@malachiphoniex8501 5 ай бұрын
While i agree with your points on a factual point, I'm not sure I agree with this kind of video. I'm not saying that Theory should be applauded for this video or that he makes logical points, but who cares? Why devote a stream to dunking on this discredited guy when you're claiming the moral high ground? It's just weird.
@futurestories2380
@futurestories2380 4 ай бұрын
I would say they have the moral high ground, but they pull the same crap. They demand that Therory explain why certain stories are good, but don't explain why their take is correct on certain stories is correct. There all hypocrites and stupid. I see this too where if people don’t agree with someone's point or most, they'll attack their character and disagree with everything else they say. I agree that Vader isn't that special but why do they think that? I'm shire the reasons they'll give can be found in their favorite stories. It's stupid.
@sullivandmitry1416
@sullivandmitry1416 4 ай бұрын
They are technically responding to the video and through that their overall opinions on the guy are coming out.
@FlymanMS
@FlymanMS 6 ай бұрын
I enjoy your reviews and analysis of SW shows but I’m not going to watch your discord hangout chat with friends that goes off topic constantly, has no structure and its theme is some bs drama/made up drama/ytubers reacting to ytubers stuff that’s not worth to be brought up in the first place.
@ActuallyAndrewYT
@ActuallyAndrewYT 6 ай бұрын
Skill issue
@jamesthefighter4058
@jamesthefighter4058 6 ай бұрын
I mean, it’s not called a hangout with friends for no reason
@FlymanMS
@FlymanMS 6 ай бұрын
@@jamesthefighter4058no it’s called “Responding to swt” while in fact it’s just their group chat
@jamesthefighter4058
@jamesthefighter4058 6 ай бұрын
@@FlymanMS Yeah true idk why the main topic was that but idk I guess I enjoy the bullshit on the side too it all blends lmao
@panthekirb7561
@panthekirb7561 6 ай бұрын
No one is forcing you to Little bro
@therorient
@therorient 5 ай бұрын
OMG! I regret looking at this. Please stop changing subjects in the MIDDLE of a video that you guys are supposed to critique.
@bdf2660
@bdf2660 6 ай бұрын
I remember episode 9 had him crying from ecstasy in theatre, put all his opinions in the auto trash bin after that 😂. I also happened to drop by an Andor stream of his and he was mid rant on there being no jedi... what is wrong with bro?
@anonymous-hz2un
@anonymous-hz2un 6 ай бұрын
Filoni conditioned him to clap every time when lightsabers appear on the screen. That man is a blight upon the franchise.
@spartan7375
@spartan7375 6 ай бұрын
Not surprising coming from the guy who helped popularize the worst sw “content” on the platform
@astralstorm8859
@astralstorm8859 6 ай бұрын
@@spartan7375Context?
@Armathlive
@Armathlive 4 ай бұрын
I remember everyone was like the last Skywalker will explain everything, and swt realized the disconnect after release, disney will keep making shit shows because they can't tell a story not because of of SWT and fans like him, these guys can call someone a bitch all they want but their arguments seem to fall apart anytime they try to elaborate
@lozadorni9195
@lozadorni9195 6 ай бұрын
Every time I hear SWT speak I recoil into myself from cringe. The man is incapable of critical thinking and there appears to be absolutely no filter between his mount and 'brain'.
@Ahzuv2
@Ahzuv2 6 ай бұрын
yeah dawg hes probably autistric
@JohnDavidSullivan
@JohnDavidSullivan 6 ай бұрын
Not sure I agree with you there.
@bitchoflivingblah
@bitchoflivingblah 6 ай бұрын
swt is a five year old trapped in a man's body. everything is jedi, sith and light sabres.
@Optimaloptimus
@Optimaloptimus 6 ай бұрын
Bro couldn’t even stop making shit up to justify what Disney was doing. He is deep in that Disney piss kool aid.
@lightningmonky7674
@lightningmonky7674 6 ай бұрын
What has he done to give you such a strong opinion? Genuinely curious if it's something I should know about?
@Underwoods2000
@Underwoods2000 6 ай бұрын
Sheev I really like your videos but breaking down a 12 minute video over the course of 3+ hours so u can roast this dude and then making fun of Mauler for actually putting in the effort to speak with him publicly is kinda lame tbh. Not totally convinced you guys are as mature as you pretend to be. Enjoyed most of the video but a lot of it is just classic high school bully behavior tbh. Also pretty lame y’all aren’t clever enough to not roast his appearance while y’all hide behind your discord pfps. This is coming from someone who agrees that SWT has really fallen off in the past few years too
@SheevTalks
@SheevTalks 6 ай бұрын
When did I or anyone on my panel make fun of MauLer for taking the time to speak to him publicly?
@Underwoods2000
@Underwoods2000 6 ай бұрын
@@SheevTalkssounds like y’all are flaming mauler for having a civil conversation and letting a person have a differing opinion. I guess if y’all went on theory’s podcast you would’ve told him how stupid and wrong and ugly he is instead of being thankful and respectful for a collab with a huge KZfaq channel? Just seems mean spirited is all
@SheevTalks
@SheevTalks 6 ай бұрын
@@Underwoods2000 Nothing wrong with calling MauLer out for going against his own beliefs in order to keep the conversation civil, rather than ever truly challenging Theory’s beliefs. He’s never been one to tell someone why he thinks they’re wrong in a live setting; why should this have been any different? And why would him doing that mean the conversation has to deviate from civility?
@Underwoods2000
@Underwoods2000 6 ай бұрын
@@SheevTalksI’m saying that bc y’all spent the whole 3 hours calling theory swears and names n stuff. Y’all talk about “the fandom menace” but swearing someone out bc they shit talk andor is just as bad lol Totally fine to call someone out when you think they’re wrong, but y’all were serious bullies about it if I’m being real. Props to mauler for having a civil conversation
@SheevTalks
@SheevTalks 6 ай бұрын
@@Underwoods2000 Yeah nah, don’t buy it. Interpret it how you will, but I’m not gonna admit to bullying someone when I know I didn’t. I’m also not overly sympathetic toward the guy who made fun of fans of a show I like simply because he found it boring, which he did multiple times in a small video.
@shadows-xn3ed
@shadows-xn3ed 4 ай бұрын
Self insert characters are 80% of the reasons why these shows are written how they are. There have been multiple studies showing that a large proportion of people are unable to embody another characters ideas and motivations. So if you want large mainstream appeal… you make bland characters that can be used as self insert and fit multiple different categories, they also never actually develop any relationships or conflicts because again…. It’s a self insert show, it’s the skeleton plot so you can make a personal story in your head.
@shadows-xn3ed
@shadows-xn3ed 4 ай бұрын
A good portion of the population are just drones fallowing emotional impulses. They don’t care about a plot making sense, they simply want the next emotion burst. You trying to undermine that by pointing out plot holes or poor writing is like trying to explain to a person eating cake why they should be eating a carrot… They don’t care or understand why your talking to them.
@justaghostinthesea
@justaghostinthesea 4 ай бұрын
Which studies?
@FishyAltFishy
@FishyAltFishy 6 ай бұрын
Swt seems fine, especially after his chat with mauler. I used to watch him too. It seems he loves talking about how he's a victim on social media. Thats what i find annoying about him, not his takes on which of star wars is good or bad.
@Underwoods2000
@Underwoods2000 6 ай бұрын
The irony of this panel getting so bent over him making fun of andor fans and then talking about how dumb he is for liking the shows he likes for 3 hours 😂
@colonelsanders7351
@colonelsanders7351 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think the way he handles negative social media is kind of bad, and a little annoying. What was even more annoying was this video, I agree with a lot of things they are saying logically counter to the points theory was making, but I really wish it didn't come down to these "high and mighty intellectuals" stooping so low as to viciously and repeatedly insult theory on a personal level. It was just vile and disgusting, and I lost a lot of respect I had for them.
@Underwoods2000
@Underwoods2000 6 ай бұрын
@@colonelsanders7351 same. Pretentious ass video
@toreadoress
@toreadoress 5 ай бұрын
​@@colonelsanders7351 yeah that was really bad, I understand differences in opinions, but once somebody starts attacking someone else on a personal level especially for fictional stuff and to the point of calling him an idiot, they just lose respect and credibility for me and is so petty. Or that George Lucas would be ashamed of him, even tho there is absolutely nothing to hint towards that, if anything the guy has talked and interviewed people who worked with George Lucas and if there was some resentment it would've showed in some ways. I may not agree on everything with SWT but I would definetly not going to call him an idiot, the guy generally does understand the Star Wars lore as a whole.
@jkcrawl
@jkcrawl 5 ай бұрын
He ripped into me one time when I pointed out some things about his criticism of TLJ. He didn't rebuttal my point just drove home how it he was "just stating" that it was his opinion. Like, no shit? I wasn't even being rude and he just seemed really insecure about being challenged on any level.
@anticitizenokapi4634
@anticitizenokapi4634 6 ай бұрын
Cant wait for the inevitable when Theory reacts to this stream and goes frame by frame critiqing it with MauLer
@blue-vr8dd
@blue-vr8dd 6 ай бұрын
why mauler swear they've only spoken on stream the once
@ninvusoogoar6098
@ninvusoogoar6098 6 ай бұрын
@@blue-vr8dd twice that i saw
@gabrielhills9329
@gabrielhills9329 6 ай бұрын
Bro these guys took 3 hours to cover a 12 minute video, what are you talkin about
@seriousnesstv7902
@seriousnesstv7902 6 ай бұрын
@@gabrielhills9329it’s just random commentary at this point, this wasn’t a critique and more like a shit talk on theory but I’ll admit I do feel SWT has fell since he is too blind to admit the problems in Filoni
@anticitizenokapi4634
@anticitizenokapi4634 6 ай бұрын
@gabrielhills9329 in my defense I made the worst joke off of the top of my head possible.
@popoff_3005
@popoff_3005 6 ай бұрын
How old are you guys? If you don’t like listening to someone or watching something then it’s pretty easy….. don’t. I’ve noticed that at least he invites anyone to join his live chats and have a debate. But then have people like you guys hide behind yr key boards and just gang up on someone. I’ve heard high schoolers have better debates then listening you guys trying to bash someone. I’m completely bias. I’ve watched his video as you guys. I’ve been a Star Wars fan since 1977. I’ve lived through all this so far. I believe Disney is killing Star Wars. Politics and gender roles being pushed. We’re all suppose to be Star Wars fans. No need to bash anyone. I watch anyone’s vlogs and blogs but when you decide to stoop this low… yea not me. I’ve watched you guys and SWT. Both had good and bad points… but done with you guys!!!
@TheSEAempire
@TheSEAempire 5 ай бұрын
You won’t be missed lmao
@Underwoods2000
@Underwoods2000 6 ай бұрын
“Disney wouldn’t keep making shows like this if it weren’t for people like him” not sure what you guys mean by this. Don’t y’all make videos for all of the Disney Star Wars stuff too for the most part? Might be missing the point here
@Inyourbox-kr5uf
@Inyourbox-kr5uf 6 ай бұрын
Facts
@thejollychap
@thejollychap 6 ай бұрын
SWT advocates for sludge content. Sludge content being popular enough to sustain profits is why Disney make sludge. We review the sludge to warn others off of ingesting it. Think of us as poison testers for you, the kings and queens. We consume the content to test its sludginess and, if it’s bad, we warn you. And if it’s good we recommend it.
@Underwoods2000
@Underwoods2000 6 ай бұрын
@@thejollychapI like y’all’s videos a lot but that sounds like a reach to me. All opinions are subjective and theory definitely warned his fans about Obiwan, Boba, mando 3, sequel trilogy, etc. man just likes to nerd out, and happens to like most of what Filoni does. I don’t agree with him about that but I’m not gonna put myself on a pedestal bc I like andor and not Ashoka lol
@Underwoods2000
@Underwoods2000 6 ай бұрын
@@thejollychapand sure theory saying filoni and Favreau should have full control is hilariously dumb and definitely worth pushing back on but y’all were calling him all sorts of names and swears. At least Mauler was mature enough to have a respectful conversation, even if he wasn’t as combative as some would’ve liked
@samwalters1
@samwalters1 5 ай бұрын
@@thejollychap Interesting and self important way to describe acting like mean girls talking shit, gossiping, and insulting a person for 30 minutes while making needlessly pedantic and combative arguments.
@Kyle-dc1ph
@Kyle-dc1ph 6 ай бұрын
I wanted to see Kenobi train with yoda to become a force ghost in the show. That’s all I wanted
@croatoansounds
@croatoansounds 6 ай бұрын
I had honestly forgotten about the fact that Jedi are supposed to need to train while alive to achieve force ghost status haha. I’m imagining some Jedi during Order 66… he’s mid-force ghost training, gets murdered while meditating. Wakes up in the force realizing he didn’t practice enough to even haunt his killer, let alone come back with philosophical one-liners haha.
@da-vidcargill4975
@da-vidcargill4975 6 ай бұрын
u know there is alikely season 2
@kirby7294
@kirby7294 5 ай бұрын
​@@croatoansoundsQui-Gon being a force ghost honestly pisses me off. If you can achieve enlightenment AFTER dying, then why aren't most light side force users turning into force ghosts?
@croatoansounds
@croatoansounds 5 ай бұрын
@@kirby7294 the afterlife must be so crowded.
@Grandof-the-PentastarAlignment
@Grandof-the-PentastarAlignment 5 ай бұрын
@@kirby7294 Qui-Gon was the first person to have found the Force Priestess who is likely meant to be the same being as the Shaman of the Whills. Whatever Qui-Gon and Yoda went through there seems to have helped them achieve gnosis but is not necessary for everyone to become a ghost. He has also started training while alive but was unable to finish it, he likely wouldn't have been able to achieve gnosis after death otherwise. I don't remember who has become a ghost in stories set before TPM but I would assume Lucas intends Qui-Gon to be the first ever Jedi to have become a ghost, or at the very least the first one after an impossibly long time. We know that Lucas rejects the idea of Sith ghosts at least. When it comes to the spiritual ideas in Star Wars I would only ever trust Lucas.
@fotzegamingandmedia1840
@fotzegamingandmedia1840 3 ай бұрын
I love that 'Godzilla Minus One's' $15 Million budget and $80 Million price tag of the 'The Creator' completely destroy SWT's budget narrative.
@Turianz_
@Turianz_ 2 ай бұрын
I saw the trailer of Gojira -1.0 and holy crap that looks amazing. Thanks for sharing it.
@fotzegamingandmedia1840
@fotzegamingandmedia1840 2 ай бұрын
@@Turianz_ I went to the theater to see it! Fantastic movie, great story.
@shalashaska5851
@shalashaska5851 6 ай бұрын
Star Wars is a fucking MESS. It’s such a disaster under Disney that it has somehow made most die hard fans just not care.
@AllenCroy
@AllenCroy 6 ай бұрын
yeah I used to be obssessed and then book of boba fett made me not care
@croatoansounds
@croatoansounds 6 ай бұрын
@@AllenCroyyea, Boba Fett was rough for me too. For me it was Episode 8 where the cracks started, though at the time i don’t think I knew explicitly hehe. I remember leaving the theatre and like, somewhere deep inside knowing that I didn’t like it at ALL though I wanted to not hate it… I thought maaaaybbe I had too many expectations or biases, maybe it trying “new things” was actually good… Then I rewatched it a few months later and I knew “nope, you were right the first time, you don’t like this” lol. I don’t begrudge anyone who likes it, plenty of movies, music, etc that I like which others hate haha. But, from that point on I lost my Star Wars stoke, wasn’t excited about any new Star Wars project, movie or TV. Don’t think I’ve seen any subsequent movie or show at the time of release, only watching them when convenient or forced months or years after the fact 😂
@idefinitelytapped7396
@idefinitelytapped7396 6 ай бұрын
@@AllenCroyI checked out after the last Jedi. Maybe I saw the smoke before everyone else did and avp domed ship earlier them most but yea I’ve been out for years. Watching these hate videos instead much more entertaining
@da-vidcargill4975
@da-vidcargill4975 6 ай бұрын
what you smoking?????????????????
@da-vidcargill4975
@da-vidcargill4975 6 ай бұрын
no its not you people take things TOO SERIOUSLY GET A LIFE
@tyrannozilla
@tyrannozilla 6 ай бұрын
On the topic of Andor. I have also mentioned this on other channels, but one thing I have noticed (and do not like) with Andor, and all of the other Disney Star Wars shows and movies (including Ahsoka), is that the characters do not talk like Star Wars characters. According to some interviews from George Lucas and other reports, he took inspiration from classical acting from the Golden Age of Hollywood (1930s and 1940s). Look at films like Casablanca or Gone With The Wind (or any of the Flash Gordon or Buck Rogers film serials), then watch any of Lucas' original six films and I believe you will notice the similarities. I always thought that was a genius idea to take classical acting and put it in another galaxy. However, once Disney took over and Lucas left, Star Wars no longer feels like "a galaxy far, far away" anymore. The characters talk more like people on Earth with current vernacular and swear words (the word "shit" used in Andor, for instance). Current vernacular works in shows like the Expanse because it takes place in our galaxy and most of the people come from Earth. But it doesn't work when you put it in Star Wars. Now before you say anything, I know that Han Solo said the word "Hell" in A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back. The difference between that and what Disney is doing is that Star Wars was still finding its footing in 1977 and 1980. By the time you get to Return of The Jedi in 1983 and the prequels in 1999 up to 2005, the characters stopped saying that word. Now it's commonplace for them to not say "Hell" because they are from a different galaxy, so they would not know any of our religions, thus not use "Hell" as a swear word. Another reason that Andor doesn't feel like Star Wars to me (and it's not just because it has no lightsabers or pew, pew, pew) is that it felt more like they were trying to go for a feeling similar to Ron Moore's Battlestar Galactica or that of the Expanse. The problem is that that type of science fiction doesn't fit with Star Wars. Star Wars is supposed to have the feeling of a grand space opera similar in style to the classical acting seen in 1930s-1940s Hollywood, even when you focus on a non-force sensitive character. Now there have been cases in the original Expanded Universe where some stories didn't focus on Jedi. For example, I read one and a half of the X-wing novels a few years ago and while they focused more on non-force sensitive pilots and felt more like a spy espionage type story, they still felt like I was reading something from a galaxy far, far away. Again, that's just my opinion, Sheev. I mean no disrespect to you or anyone else that enjoys Andor, I just wanted to get my point across and I believe I have the right to do so. Good luck to you and the rest of your crew.
@AnAmericanMusician
@AnAmericanMusician 6 ай бұрын
A big reason for why it doesn't feel old timey anymore has to do with the fans and even actors bashing Lucas for "talking like an alien."
@nimashahidinia4503
@nimashahidinia4503 6 ай бұрын
Well put 👏🏼
@JacenSolo0
@JacenSolo0 6 ай бұрын
Yeah everyone made fun of the prequels for the clunky dialogue where jo one speaks like a normal person and you know we are seeing humans so we expect some relatable dialogue. A new hope is the most iconic Star wars film it wasn't finding its feet lol.
@tyrannozilla
@tyrannozilla 6 ай бұрын
I was able to relate to the characters despite the "clunky" dialogue, because I understood what Lucas wanted to do. Also, I am a fan of some of those older films and am a fan of that type of acting. The original King Kong from 1933 has a similar style to how the dialogue was delivered in the prequels, and it is one of my favorite films of all time. I think the other problem was that some of the fans hadn't watched those older films, nor read about Lucas' inspirations, so they jumped to the conclusion that it was silly and stupid, which was unfair. The old style (Golden Age) acting is exactly what George wanted to do. It gives the saga a more timeless feel. If you look back at those older films, they are going to seem awkward to a modern audience, because most of them didn't grow up watching those films, or weren't born at the time those films were made. In regards to Anakin coming off as awkward with his speaking, especially in Episode II, he's supposed to be awkward. The reason his "I don't like sand" moment with Padme seems silly is because he was chosen to be a Jedi at an age that the Counsil thought was too old and has spent the next 10 years training to basically become an intergalactic monk. At the time of the Old Republic, Jedi were not allowed to have any intimate relationships with anyone, they were not allowed to marry, and not allowed to have children. If Anakin had been taken to the Jedi Counsil immediately after his birth (which is what was normally done), he might've turned out a different man. But since he was forced to leave his mother when he was 8 - 10 years of age, after promising her he would free her one day, and being told to let go of those he loved, he has all these emotions running through his head and his inexperience with Padme shows this. The other reason, I believe, that the dialogue could come off as campy and awkward to audiences is that the characters are aliens. How they talk to each other may seem awkward to us, but it is normal for them. They shouldn't talk like we do. Disney tried doing this, and look how that's turned out. I'd rather have the characters seem awkward (even in the OT, they talk a little like this) over the use of current vernacular in a galaxy far, far away. Another theory I have regarding the Star Wars galaxy is that while we, the audience, are hearing the characters speak English, they aren't really speaking English. It's just translated for the audience. Throughout the six films, it's been revealed that the galaxy has a universally written language (Aurebesh), but we never hear them speak the language. That's because it is translated to English (or any other language on Earth). Oh, and for the record, I know that in the original version of "A New Hope," there was English lettering on the tractor beam readout and Lucas added the Aurebesh in the "Special Edition." However, he did have Aurebesh in the later films, so it made sense for him to add it in the original film for continuity.@@JacenSolo0
@tyrannozilla
@tyrannozilla 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, that was really unfair. There were some actors that defended George's vision, however. From what I've heard, Hayden Christiansen had no regrets for how Lucas directed him in the prequels and I thought he played Anakin well. @@AnAmericanMusician
@TheUnholyLordClownz
@TheUnholyLordClownz 6 ай бұрын
55:50 bit of a hot take to call Mauler a scum fuck if you ask me. HeelsVsBabyFace not so much
@nagger8216
@nagger8216 6 ай бұрын
I always found it hilarious how his name is that, considering he's a massive man child and has the perfect smug ass face for planting my heel into.
@optillian4182
@optillian4182 5 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the "F*cking pronouns!!!" guy. What a lolcow.
@WaakikiTheGoat
@WaakikiTheGoat 6 ай бұрын
He said they are lucky to have a talent like Filoni and that he should be running everything, but when Mauler wanted to argue about it SWT folded and compared Filoni to being given a juice box in the desert. Spineless coward
@wisdommanari6701
@wisdommanari6701 6 ай бұрын
No no it's an empty hotel with no amenities. I was thinking Where the fuck are you going with the metaphor?!
@ChosenOne-il4bm
@ChosenOne-il4bm 6 ай бұрын
Star Wars theory is a bitch Disney canon is the same has TCW That’s why I like it There no difference Did he watch TCW George and Disney are the same Compared to the EU Written by actual writers
@RotalHenricsson
@RotalHenricsson 6 ай бұрын
I worship the ground Filoni's hat sits on but the man's not perfect and i'm not gonna defend Ahsoka (the show). Still, seeing the end result of Kenobi i'd argue some cameos would've been a price i'd have been willing to pay to get something more... good. Until he shits out more Ahsokas the man has my trust for now.
@ChosenOne-il4bm
@ChosenOne-il4bm 6 ай бұрын
I know you see i dont have a problem with disey star wars its the same has tcw this is hwo dave nd george tells stories the problem with theory is that he is nostric with the things he grew up with so when he gets new content whats the same quality he sees the flaws. but aduts in my day hated ahsoka tcw prequels etc....@@RotalHenricsson
@adg21092
@adg21092 6 ай бұрын
SWT cashing in them KZfaq checks I can't blame him, if I was making $750k+ a year to cash out on a dead franchise I'd do the same as him lol
@notevenreal971
@notevenreal971 6 ай бұрын
Regarding the echo you were talking about at around 5:45 , this just happens when you share your screen through Discord, cause sharing the screen sends all the audio that's going through the primary sound device, to listeners. It's a tech issue I just had to fix last week on my own project.
@ALifeUnanalyzedIsALifeUnlived
@ALifeUnanalyzedIsALifeUnlived 6 ай бұрын
Wow, guys you're not coming off in a good light in this video. What happened to civility, you all sound like bullies in high school. Not a fan of this episode and y'all really let me down here. Not that you should care. But, Mauler was being kind and civil, what did you want him to do crap down the SWT's throat? I admit, I don't agree with SWT or some of his actions, I have enjoyed lot of his content over the years and he has done some good work. Constructive criticism is one thing, but hiding behind your little aviators and being keyboard warrior is weak af.
@Deathelement53
@Deathelement53 3 ай бұрын
They don't sound like bullies at all. They sound like the children that all got bullied as children and never learned the life lesson from it and now try and inflict the same shit they felt onto others in their little safe space
@bob38028
@bob38028 3 ай бұрын
@@Deathelement53 Or just some friends having a good time getting paid to talk some trash in a casual podcast format. It ain't that deep, it's just star wars.
@Deathelement53
@Deathelement53 3 ай бұрын
@bob38028 it is not normal to sit there for this long and ragging on someone...over starwars. Most of the time they aren't even talking about what theory said and just make fun of him like eight year olds If you think it's fun to sit there like this I feel deeply ashamed for you and ya need a hobby
@bob38028
@bob38028 3 ай бұрын
@@Deathelement53 No I agree with you, 100 percent. You're forgetting they get paid for this though. Even if it's only a small amount, this is probably a pretty relaxing way to make spare change. I'd do it too if I got paid.
@monolithichashies7477
@monolithichashies7477 6 ай бұрын
Im curious what the story behind the distane for efap and mauler is. I would have thought you'd be friendly with them.
@Calvinosaur
@Calvinosaur 6 ай бұрын
I'm guessing Southpaw poisoned the well.
@mattmark94
@mattmark94 6 ай бұрын
as I said in another comment, I find it weird how they use the same *exact* arguments as EFAP, Nerdrotic, Az ecc.. and then insult them randomly
@controlroomguy
@controlroomguy 6 ай бұрын
SouthPaw is a unhinged terminally online EFAP hater so gonna assume he's in everyone's ear about how evil and bad EFAP and mauler is yet is desperate for his own awful EFAP clone.
@controlroomguy
@controlroomguy 6 ай бұрын
@@mattmark94 Because they are the "better" and much less popular or liked version of them lol. Virtue signalling generally is the theme.
@samwellcheck562
@samwellcheck562 6 ай бұрын
Well the real answer is that Southpaw and EFAP watched some cop show together, Southpaw really liked it and EFAP didn't, so since it was his idea Southpaw wanted to stop watching it with them since they clearly weren't enjoying it. Then Fringy sent him a preachy, condescending message about objective standards and Wolf threw himself into the discussion over what I hope was a catastrophic misunderstanding of what was said because he lost his shit immediately like Southpaw murdered all of EFAP's mothers. Thus Southpaw and EFAP are no longer on speaking terms. If that's too vague, I can give my Batman detective vision theoretical reconstruction of events... I've never seen the show myself so I don't know if SP's initial reaction was warranted or if he was just being a big baby about it, though from the critiques I've heard from EFAP I have a sneaking suspicion their divided opinions boil down to typical european blind faith in authority more than objective standards; their main critiques were about the main character who is in a grey area with the law (a detective or something that often works with the cops) not going above and beyond to cover his tracks doing illegal stuff in the line of duty, as if overworked and underpaid cops break out the forensics to take down one of their own resources without some public outcry or possibility of a scandal. As I said I've never seen it beyond a few clips so I could be completely wrong, but something else that came out in that bit of drama was that Fringy had "some kind" of education in the law. Now if that was some kind of complete education he wouldn't be so vague about it, so that leads me to believe he has some incomplete education on the PRINCIPLES of law, not the real-world application... from Australia, a country not exactly famous for how much its police are not the thugs of a corrupt government willing to commit blatant violations of citizen's rights because the boss told them to, something Fringy himself is apparently completely ignorant of when asked about it, not exactly lending to his legal credibility. This is all to say Fringy may have a very warped view of how cops (american cops particularly) actually work while fancying himself an authority on the subject, and not knowing any better Mauler and Rags may take his "knowledge" at face value and essentially adopt Fringy's positions on what it is realistic to expect and not expect from police procedure for a given scene. So, you have Southpaw seeing the main character do shady stuff and thinking, "that's kind of risky, but he probably figures he can talk his way out of it if he needs to", while EFAP is saying out loud, "this is completely unrealistic, he should be caught and imprisoned forthwith". Now I don't know how to broach the subject of police reliability, catch-and-release practices, police workloads and prioritization of cases, etc. without getting at least a little political, so I can imagine Southpaw didn't want to try to stumble his way through that minefield with them to try and explain why he thought it wasn't unrealistic for the main character to not care too much about, for example, leaving fingerprints, so he instead opted to just stop watching it and end the awkwardness then and there... only to get a very condescending message from Mr. legal expert himself about how he should be applying objective standards even to the media he loves, then a barrage of insults from Wolf out of nowhere. After that kind of experience, I would probably not want to associate with them anymore either. It isn't just getting subtle and overt insults flung at you for your attempt to AVOID conflict, it's how the only way to explain your difference of opinion gets political and likely adds more fuel to the fire, not less. I presume Southpaw's experience has soured the rest of the cast, not to mention that he likely has more stories of EFAP being cringe in private that hasn't (and probably shouldn't, it'd be a real asshole thing to do) gone public.
@coomodus2592
@coomodus2592 6 ай бұрын
Anakin took Theory’s virginity on the sands of Tantooine and he never got over it .
@mattchooblink
@mattchooblink 6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@facilegoose9347
@facilegoose9347 6 ай бұрын
_Unnaturally ..._
@user-xx6vy9ri8p
@user-xx6vy9ri8p 6 ай бұрын
Why would Anakin do that on the sand?
@AllenCroy
@AllenCroy 6 ай бұрын
I grew up surrounded by virgins
@ChosenOne-il4bm
@ChosenOne-il4bm 6 ай бұрын
Star Wars theory is a bitch Disney canon is the same has TCW That’s why I like it There no difference Did he watch TCW George and Disney are the same Compared to the EU Written by actual writers Anakin killed children He has hard on for Anakin.
@paigelamar7658
@paigelamar7658 4 ай бұрын
I love your other videos, but I couldn’t get through this one. I can appreciate you guys wanting to counter his opinions, but the comments on his character are not needed. You can disagree and be respectful at the same. It seems like you all are ganging up on him which isn’t a good look.
@Deathelement53
@Deathelement53 5 ай бұрын
I don't like swt either and never had but I hope you guys actually don't think you are any better than he is. Sitting here talking about him and his pointless video for this long is just sad
@danman6431
@danman6431 4 ай бұрын
Just some guys goofing off
@Deathelement53
@Deathelement53 4 ай бұрын
people dont just "goof" around making fun of one person for hours in one sitting@@danman6431
@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire
@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire 3 ай бұрын
​@@danman6431 A bunch of losers farming dislikes
@SoltyII
@SoltyII 6 ай бұрын
The whole stream feels like you are just shitting on a person because he dared to agree with you. Wtf.
@mattmark94
@mattmark94 6 ай бұрын
They also share the same opinions of other youtubers like Mauler, Nerdrotic, G+G, Az... but they crap on them anyway
@SoltyII
@SoltyII 6 ай бұрын
@@mattmark94 I feel like The S.E.A. is the most hateful. This would be a much better stream if it was only Jolly and Sheev
@TheSEAempire
@TheSEAempire 6 ай бұрын
@@SoltyIIindeed I am the most hateful, I quite dislike scumfucks like SWT who bully teenagers and actively partake in online grifting and spreading misinformation.
@ALifeUnanalyzedIsALifeUnlived
@ALifeUnanalyzedIsALifeUnlived 6 ай бұрын
Agreed, they sound like the bitches if you ask me. Talking crap behind his back, would love to see these tough guys talk to him in person. Just gross and childish.
@samwalters1
@samwalters1 5 ай бұрын
For real, they sound like a bunch of needlessly adversarial and pedantic mean girls who clearly went in to the reaction with an agenda of trying to shit on the guy. Terrible look for all of them in my opinion.
@michaelterry6576
@michaelterry6576 4 ай бұрын
This video really made me lose respect for you overall. I mean I thought you were a great content creator but there's just a general lack of respect in basic form. The insults are fine, what's frustrating is how long you drag out the shit talking and how 90% of it is just 'hehe he dumb'. You can disagree with the validity of EFAP's claims or argumentation but at least they don't drone on for long stretches making up insults without having any substance. Stopped watching about halfway through because it got too annoying.
@Benjahmin1138
@Benjahmin1138 3 ай бұрын
I couldn’t get through 15 minutes at 2x speed
@daredcell9563
@daredcell9563 Ай бұрын
This is exactly like mauler streams where they take a 20 minute video and turn it into 2 hour stream. He even has his buddies watching it with him like mauler. The constant pausing, insults and laughs, like him. Two sides of the same coin.
@michaelterry6576
@michaelterry6576 Ай бұрын
@@daredcell9563 Tell me you haven't gotten through a stream without telling me you haven't gotten through a stream.
@Azal423
@Azal423 Ай бұрын
@@daredcell9563no, it really isn’t the same. EFAP is way more analytical than this was. This was 70% name calling and disrespect, whereas EFAP is generally 30% toned-down insults (depending on the person being insulted lol).
@BHalo98
@BHalo98 2 ай бұрын
Me: Can we have EFAP Mom: We have EFAP at home The EFAP we have at home-
@BHalo98
@BHalo98 2 ай бұрын
Me: *unalives myself*
@BluntBrothersProductions
@BluntBrothersProductions 2 ай бұрын
I never saw theory as a coward. even now he's very open to the people he speaks with about how he feels about the new stuff (usually in defense) when surrounded by people who lean to the negative side and doesn't bend when he's around them.
@brendanknight9821
@brendanknight9821 4 ай бұрын
Damn this was a real shame to sit through - you guys are being completely unnecessary internet bullies, saying all sorts of things I highly doubt you'd every actually say to a persons face. I hope you re-watch this and feel ashamed about how you are treating another human being, regardless of whether you agree with their opinions or not. You should be able to critique someones opinions without descending into blatant personal attacks, especially about how someone looks - which isn't even within their control. Be better.
@danman6431
@danman6431 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree it was not the best criticism as that’s what I came here for. But it’s the internet if someone is bullying you turn it off.
@edwardmacfarlane4129
@edwardmacfarlane4129 6 ай бұрын
Was interested until they started shitting on genuinely good creators for no apparent reason.
@urtypicalfemboy-nm3fx
@urtypicalfemboy-nm3fx 6 ай бұрын
What? Who?
@edwardmacfarlane4129
@edwardmacfarlane4129 6 ай бұрын
@@urtypicalfemboy-nm3fx Mauler is the one that I can recall explicitly. Something about that section of the community being bigots. Turned me off to the whole conversation
@timewarpdrive77
@timewarpdrive77 5 ай бұрын
@@edwardmacfarlane4129 Can you give me a timestamp?
@alexanderd6793
@alexanderd6793 5 ай бұрын
​@@edwardmacfarlane4129Didn't they say he was very cordial and polite? I don't think hey were really shitting on them from what I heard.
@edwardmacfarlane4129
@edwardmacfarlane4129 5 ай бұрын
@@alexanderd6793 I'm reaching real far back in the memory banks here, but I believe they were referring to how they interacted with each other. Then they labeled MauLers corner of the film critic space as bigots and nazis.
@DSu77iViN
@DSu77iViN 5 ай бұрын
Subbed on the home account and needed to sub on my personal just to say how much I cant stand Santa Theory. Not that I’m with some of Mauler’s politics, but I was giddy when I saw the thumbnail that a “debate” was going down between he and ST. It was so weak. Mauler obviously looking to broaden his reach with the Theory crowd ? Now they’re like best buds ? What in the actual f#ck ! F#ck Theory. 30 something year old, man baby. His ideal Star Wars is a lightsaber duel every 2.5 minutes, no matter the context.
@Olivermathews0224
@Olivermathews0224 6 ай бұрын
Great stream! Sucked that your WiFi cut out halfway through
@noahmoore6513
@noahmoore6513 5 ай бұрын
The more I watch of Sheev Talks, the more I reason and have a great time thinking critically about the franchise I like. I also think Jolly cooks consistently with his takes. I am a member of theory, I’ve gained quite a few friends through the community he has and watching streams of his were a constant companion living solitarily at college. So from 2020-2022, it was a great time on his channel. Lately though, his perspective on things has certainly shifted, but my perspective has also shifted, and I’ve gotten more away from him and more towards creators like Sheev. It’s weird how both this faction of Sheev and the faction of Theory are both critical of Star Wars, but whereas Sheev is able to, for the most part, remove emotions from his criticisms and be as objective as can be in his deep dives, Theory instead leans into the emotion and surface level feelings , and this leads to rants and takes that are not super coherent or well thought out. Regardless, I still really like the topics covered on this stream. It’s a few days before Christmas as I post this, so everyone have a good holiday season!
@Armathlive
@Armathlive 4 ай бұрын
Give in to your emotions, and isn't star wars all about emotions? It's a space drama and having a passionate take can be understandable
@noahmoore6513
@noahmoore6513 4 ай бұрын
@@Armathlive I just prefer people who can look at a work that they either like or dislike, and remove their feelings from it and just analyze it. Speaks to maturity.
@MiraBoo
@MiraBoo 5 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t call Ashoka (the show) good, I wouldn’t even call it okay, but I still managed to enjoy it well enough. Not sure I’d bother with a rewatch though… However, that’s because the franchise (outside of the original and prequel trilogies) is kind of dead to me now, and I found it far less offensive than the Kenobi show. Ashoka felt like it was bad due to laziness and incompetence. Kenobi’s badness felt intentional and actively vitriolic towards the IP and its fans.
@seventycross0yt175
@seventycross0yt175 27 күн бұрын
It’s great stop smoking
@MiraBoo
@MiraBoo 27 күн бұрын
@@seventycross0yt175 I am glad you enjoyed the show. It may not be for me, but I also don’t hate it and I understand why people really like it. Oh, and maybe try smoking? It’s not my thing (in fact, I wouldn’t recommend it), but it might help you to chill.
@George-de6hd
@George-de6hd 5 ай бұрын
After the under performance of mando season 3 and Ashoka fucking bombed I heard (take with a grain of salt) the whole mandoverse plan is in jeopardy and Disney is starting to get cold feet about it all …..at this point they probably gotta see it to the finish line tho to much has been dumped into it……..im pretty sure the falonie movie is basically going to be the Star Wars version of the avengers with mando ,grogu boba , frennic Ashoka ,the skeleton crew all teaming up to take out thrawn and it’s supposed to be the cap off to all these interwoven series(and will probably end with eluding to the birth of the first order) sounds so fucking dumb 😂😂
@danman6431
@danman6431 4 ай бұрын
Sounds like a fever dream. I can’t believe what I just read lol.
@seventycross0yt175
@seventycross0yt175 27 күн бұрын
No it didn’t the fuck are you talking about
@davidmaglioli7048
@davidmaglioli7048 7 күн бұрын
This dude fell off big. First off Star Wars effects are half a century old. They are very easy to achieve with a very minimal budget. So the fact Kenobi got 30 mil is more than enough. Secondly, they should have never let Filoni kill Darth Maul in Rebels. He would have worked best in the Obi Wan show as the main antagonist.
@bananess_
@bananess_ 4 ай бұрын
Now he's friends with MauLer he might get more focussed opinions
@PANCAKEMINEZZ
@PANCAKEMINEZZ 4 ай бұрын
He's slowly but surely coming around, but Star Grift is a bit annoying to watch at times because SWT constantly bitches (and not unjustifiably, mind you) about how people misrepresent him on the internet. At a certain point my sympathy runs out for his situation and I start thinking "maybe you just aren't cut out for having a direct personality on the Internet." I don't blame him for being upset but it definitely draws my attention away when every other comment or talking point he has is followed up "yeah well those idiots are just gonna do that." Mauler has that done to him all the time and even if it does bother him more than he let's on, he does a good job at not showing it. It means less people can clip him getting reactions and stopping that cycle of "get him mad, farm reaction, get him madder, etc."
@George-de6hd
@George-de6hd 5 ай бұрын
He has memorized a lot of stuff about Star Wars but actually he has a very narrow view and limited understanding of it…….he’s got a very immature 11 year old no it all on the playground mentality about it all
@PowerfulSkeleton
@PowerfulSkeleton 6 ай бұрын
I didn't know SEA had a history with covering SWT, going in. Makes more sense why he seems to despise the man.
@Zamurkai
@Zamurkai 5 ай бұрын
Can yall talk about Dave Filoni becoming Chief Creative Officer?
@DarthMerlin
@DarthMerlin 4 ай бұрын
It's so comically sad that Southpaw joined the dark side just because the EFAP guys thought Terriers was shit...
@SouthpawLP
@SouthpawLP 4 ай бұрын
Isn't the more material issue them having a full blown meltdown about me explaining why I thought they were wrong, along with them literally victim-blaming a character who was raped?
@DarthMerlin
@DarthMerlin 4 ай бұрын
@@SouthpawLP Lol, there was no meltdown. They told you they didn't like it, explained why, and got annoyed that you wouldn't let it go and just agree to disagree. As for the "victim blaming " thing, I don't remember the details, but I recall it wasn't a cut and dry issue, and their opinion on it was not unreasonable.
@SouthpawLP
@SouthpawLP 4 ай бұрын
@@DarthMerlin That's literally not how it happened. I did try to agree to disagree. That is what they got so mad about. docs.google.com/document/d/1ijzuiS7-pbcZymACoJRMZjsre57LZsw-DI4lrdepG5w As for victim-blaming, the details were that a drunk character was taken sexual advantage of by her sober professor, and EFAP literally acted as if she was responsible and vilified her over it, and ignored all the details and context provided in the show that went against what they were saying. Even went far enough to deceptively edit, but I guess you're okay with that when EFAP does it.
@mr.bearry6575
@mr.bearry6575 4 ай бұрын
Oh heavens, no! Victim blaming a fictional character!? What is the world coming to? Next, you'll tell me they were making fun of a fictional character's intelligence, physical capability, gender expression, or appearance! Clutch those pearls any harder, and they'll start to crumble under the pressure.
@bob38028
@bob38028 2 ай бұрын
@@mr.bearry6575 Why make fun of critics, artists, and writers for displaying frustration about how lay people perceive art? That would be like me, an engineer, being made fun of after becoming frustrated that someone incorrectly calculated the average normal stress of a beam segment. Let's see how you sound when we make that change to your comment. Oh heavens, no! Fudging the average normal stress!? What is the world coming to? Next, you'll tell me they were using the wrong modulus of elasticity, modulus of rigidity, elongation equation, or misapplied Poisson's Ratio! Stop being rude, it's silly.
@George-de6hd
@George-de6hd 5 ай бұрын
He loves Ashoka and gave the last episode a 10 out of 10 …..he’s only saying the last two episodes sucked (months later) is because that’s the general consensus amongst the fans that liked it and he’s a spineless coward and doesn’t wanna step on his viewers toes same reason he keeps saying he liked andor even tho he clearly hates it and is threatened by it
@Armathlive
@Armathlive 4 ай бұрын
Did you like ahsoka?
@jessiepadilla478
@jessiepadilla478 5 ай бұрын
Next time you guys do a video reaction, make sure you watch the entire video in its entirety play out without pausing it, and then repeat the video and discuss certain aspects of certain things that you agree or disagreed with. There was no reason a 15 minute video reaction should’ve converted into a three hour and 15 minute video reaction. You guys pausing it every other 10 seconds. You’re not hearing any of his points or understanding his frustrations.
@IAmMyOwnApprentice
@IAmMyOwnApprentice 5 ай бұрын
I'm not sure that was their intent.
@alexanderd6793
@alexanderd6793 5 ай бұрын
Pretty sure they said this is explicitly for making fun of a "dumbass video", they already watched and understood it before that, at least I hope.
@narc440
@narc440 Ай бұрын
They want to be discount EFAP lol
@joeedh
@joeedh 5 ай бұрын
I'm convinced you people know each other in real life. Being wrong about the relative demerits of Andor vs Ahsoka doesnt explain this much drama
@CactusR
@CactusR 3 ай бұрын
I don’t understand the extreme bashing of SWT, yeah he’s views are opinionated but it’s not the most outlandish thing in the world. Treating the dude like Kathleen Kennedy squared. He makes some (not all) valid points.
@wisdommanari6701
@wisdommanari6701 6 ай бұрын
Towards the end when you started trashing on the crimson Chin I started Fucking losing it 😂🤣😂
@Isaacisaperson4677
@Isaacisaperson4677 6 ай бұрын
So, after watching Theroy, I can confidently say his motto is "Make Star Wars Great Again!"
@croatoansounds
@croatoansounds 6 ай бұрын
MSWGA doesn’t have much of a ring to it, both figuratively but also literally haha. I’m now trying to pronounce it like maga haha. Mswga… Misswaga? Maswaga? My swagga? Guess that one kinda works lol
@urtypicalfemboy-nm3fx
@urtypicalfemboy-nm3fx 6 ай бұрын
Lmao
@frantictoast3741
@frantictoast3741 6 ай бұрын
Seeing SW fans argue, bitch, moan and cry over what timeline is the best is so cringe after seeing Marvel fans just kind of accept changes and different timelines and ignore the ones that they don't like...guys we have two different timelines to worry about, why tf are we fighting about what one is better again?
@GarseJanacek
@GarseJanacek 6 ай бұрын
The constant failed movies from Marvel show that no one has accepted it.
@urtypicalfemboy-nm3fx
@urtypicalfemboy-nm3fx 6 ай бұрын
Because it’s Star Wars fans we’re talking about. They always find an excuse to whine about anything.
@frantictoast3741
@frantictoast3741 6 ай бұрын
@GarseJanacek good thing I was talking about the comics.
@GarseJanacek
@GarseJanacek 6 ай бұрын
@frantictoast3741 Yes, it was. The comics have failed even worse than the films a long time ago.
@frantictoast3741
@frantictoast3741 6 ай бұрын
@GarseJanacek why are you fixated on whether or not they did good? You guys are obsessed with that shit. No homie, my simple point is Marvel fans have juggled multiple different realities and universes for decades. Star Wars can do the same with 2. It really isn't that hard to comprehend
@Corbanvastor
@Corbanvastor 6 ай бұрын
Wondering if you will ever talk about invincible series and thoughts on it and past loved cartoon shows like gravity falls and stuff like that, anyway great videos ❤
@captainpepsi353
@captainpepsi353 6 ай бұрын
why are they randomly hating on SWT? like the guy loves star war i dont get the hate
@anonymous-hz2un
@anonymous-hz2un 6 ай бұрын
He's Filoni's personal meat rider. He deserves it.
@TheSEAempire
@TheSEAempire 6 ай бұрын
Because he’s a vile person with awful takes and a history of being an egomaniac.
@Underwoods2000
@Underwoods2000 6 ай бұрын
To get views and bc he made a few lighthearted jokes about andor and it hurt their feelings.
@captainpepsi353
@captainpepsi353 6 ай бұрын
@@Underwoods2000 lol
@hideofreakingkojima5457
@hideofreakingkojima5457 6 ай бұрын
​@@TheSEAempireI understand on SWT making bad takes, but calling him a vile/bad person is ridiculous like what exactly did he do that made you say that? *I guess we'll never know
@mmorpgal4229
@mmorpgal4229 6 ай бұрын
I feel asleep listening to Kerry's guitar beat from cyberpunk 2077 and woke up to this for some reason....
@tyrannozilla
@tyrannozilla 6 ай бұрын
Great stream, guys. Had a fun time.
@JCShadow0202
@JCShadow0202 13 күн бұрын
Honestly didn’t think there was anyone worse than Theory until I watched this video
@DarthBrimstoneDissects
@DarthBrimstoneDissects 4 ай бұрын
as for what happened to barriss, there is fairly simple likely answer, she was locked in cell guarded by clone troopers during order 66
@George-de6hd
@George-de6hd 5 ай бұрын
What is he even talking about obi wan was never supposed to have multiple seasons it was always said from the beginning it was a one season series (because it was a movie script they starched into a movie will filler)
@jayboxing1552
@jayboxing1552 6 ай бұрын
I'm curious, why does sheev dislikes the drinker
@nagger8216
@nagger8216 6 ай бұрын
Probably because leftists live in his head rent-free, dude has dropped off hard. No Drinker, the evil message of equality isn't hiding under your bed.
@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire
@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire 5 ай бұрын
Probably because he's successful
@yakz7505
@yakz7505 4 ай бұрын
Or could he just be an ass content creator?
@user-yp6vy1oq5d
@user-yp6vy1oq5d 3 ай бұрын
Drinker gets paid to shill things more often that sheev does.
@janjanbinks1710
@janjanbinks1710 3 ай бұрын
@@yakz7505 Hmmm a bigoted bad content creator... I wOnDEr WHy He'S HaTeD iNdEed WHAT A MYSTERY
@koolgool
@koolgool 6 ай бұрын
New to this channel, but this was a great listen just to get a mix of everyone’s perspectives. Surprised Jolly doesn’t have any videos, I particularly liked a lot of what they had to say.
@SheevTalks
@SheevTalks 6 ай бұрын
He’s working on them. Channel is linked in the description if you want to subscribe. He’s got a longman about Ahsoka cooking
@koolgool
@koolgool 6 ай бұрын
@@SheevTalks Excellent, subscribed.
@Yeeticus31
@Yeeticus31 2 ай бұрын
Tbh I just listen to Nerdorotic for the news aspect, less of the opinion aspect. I like to keep my sources pretty well rounded, and I feel his channel especially is just very thorough in bringing up everything we currently know about a subject
@Yeeticus31
@Yeeticus31 2 ай бұрын
Though, in the future, I will try to listen more closely to what he’s saying to be sure it’s something I really agree with or want to listen to.
@jangofett7513
@jangofett7513 Ай бұрын
I seriously disagree that the kenobi show is the most important show. There are other things much more interesting and I’d say imo an origin story about Plagueis, Sidious and Maul is much more important. The novel explains how Sidious rose to power, how Plagueis recruited him, and Mauls origin story as well. And this all leads you into the phantom menace, and they could easily end it connecting it to the phantom menace, because that is when Sidious murders Plagueis. And I would never make this a show, I’d make this a trilogy, you would then have something like, the prequels, the original trilogy, and the Darth Plagueis trilogy, since we’re doing spin offs.
@George-de6hd
@George-de6hd 5 ай бұрын
Obi wan is 8 episodes andor is 12 so of course it cost more money to make ya derp 🥴 not to mention 70% of andor was filmed on location and not on a sound stage like mando, Ashoka and obi wan
@ryaxc4681
@ryaxc4681 5 ай бұрын
obi wan was actually 6 episodes lol
@StefanWinchester
@StefanWinchester 6 ай бұрын
I hate disney star wars 90% of what disney has made is garbage. Swt needs to stop flip flopping. Either you like disney star wars or you dont.
@Zamurkai
@Zamurkai 6 ай бұрын
It's so Joever.
@thatsmorelikeittt
@thatsmorelikeittt 2 ай бұрын
The funniest part about SWT is he loathes Disney so much yet he still buys all their merch that they sell 🤣
@psychedelicartistry
@psychedelicartistry 5 ай бұрын
Man, so now there's online clicks, huh? I don't watch online podcasts like this too often. I used to watch efap but it's not my cup of tea. So there's a rivalry between mauler and his crew and Sheev and his crew? Oh btw "I member"
@lukew6725
@lukew6725 4 ай бұрын
Only imagined rivalry because Southpaw is still bitter about Mauler criticizing his favorite show. 😆
@hegodamask9492
@hegodamask9492 3 ай бұрын
I don't watch SWT's videos, nor do I "care" about him, but this video is worse than anything he could've put out. Five guys acting like highschool bullies through a screen. Actually ridiculous that you got three hours of this out of a 12 minute video lol
@TheImapotato
@TheImapotato 3 ай бұрын
All of those guys ranting about them have less than 2k subscribers. It is penis envy, that's all
@tommyg4842
@tommyg4842 6 ай бұрын
I’m so confused what are the sides here these guys like Efap? Or not
@vraisairs9201
@vraisairs9201 2 ай бұрын
THREE HOURS???
@fatnakedjimmyneutron
@fatnakedjimmyneutron 5 ай бұрын
the fact that these guys did a 3 hour stream and a 12-minute video about Theory may be one of the sadest most pathetic things I've ever seen. Well I say seen but stopped listening after 2 minutes. Trump 2024 199
@thogameskanaal
@thogameskanaal 17 күн бұрын
You calling him a bigot? Listen to yourselves.
@AidsLordSupreme
@AidsLordSupreme 6 күн бұрын
I'd have killed for an episode of tales of the jedi about (I struggle to spell names please someone correct me if this is wrong) Aellah Secura and the struggles on Felucua
@OnTheEdge86
@OnTheEdge86 6 ай бұрын
I enjoyed Andor apart from the more realistic tone jarring with star wars fantasy, like that woman using the name of the entire planet in her address to the little town at the end, which is odd when you think about it or tie fighters making noise in space and shooting laser type things pew pew I like the bourne stuff, I like fantasy, but mixing the 2 can be dangerous, a bit like when you treat batman too seriously and it collapses and becomes silly becasue it was always meant to be fantasy and works best as fantasy
@TulipsInSpaceKindaDeal
@TulipsInSpaceKindaDeal 6 ай бұрын
i don't know if its because i'm hard of hearing or my set up is kinda sht but i could barely listen to you guys. i had to turn the volume all the way up and some of you sounded really loud and others didn't.
@jonmorgan7621
@jonmorgan7621 6 ай бұрын
This is some toxic nerd shit no thanks SW sucks enough without us making fun of each other. Besides he started the conversation you guys get views from.
@dubstyle311
@dubstyle311 6 ай бұрын
Yeah. They come across as jealous losers. Sheev makes good reviews, but is small time on YT. Then you’ve got the Sheev orbiters that are just mean-spirited. At least they’re not bigots, right guys?
@akashajones6079
@akashajones6079 6 ай бұрын
Agreed, the school boy insults are truly pathetic.
@ALifeUnanalyzedIsALifeUnlived
@ALifeUnanalyzedIsALifeUnlived 6 ай бұрын
Agreed, these boys suck, and I emphasize boys. Probably got their asses handed to them when they were young and instead of learning compassion they're just projecting the crap they went through. I'm no psych analyst, but this wreaks of it.
@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire
@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire 5 ай бұрын
"Biphobic" Jeez, are you guys sure you don't like the Disneyslop?
@SarastistheSerpent
@SarastistheSerpent 4 ай бұрын
What does this mean? Do biphobic people like disney?
@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire
@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire 3 ай бұрын
​@@SarastistheSerpent No, there is no such thing as "Biphobia" unless you're a soy latte drinking disney writer.
@akashajones6079
@akashajones6079 Ай бұрын
@@HolyNorthAmericanEmpire I think there's a discussion to be had on whether or not it exists. But you using soy drinking as an insult is so out of touch with reality, I'm not sure you're capable of having an intelligent conversation.
@WeekendWeakling
@WeekendWeakling 6 ай бұрын
This might be control but Andor and Rouge One are my two favorite Star wars vehicles since the prequels...
@offtheshelfET
@offtheshelfET 4 ай бұрын
I like the guy in the chat who just keeps spamming stuff about Skibidi toilet and Ohio. He wanted so badly to be seen but no one else was giving him that satisfaction.
@BassUndertow
@BassUndertow 6 ай бұрын
Good discussion. Who are the other guys on this stream? Can you link their channels please? Thanks
@mkb4560
@mkb4560 6 ай бұрын
If I was running Lucas film I would have done the ideas that George Lucas had for the trilogy or i would have done the Thrawn trilogy books in live action but I would have recast Luke Leia and Han Solo
@jaxsonburch-eo1vz
@jaxsonburch-eo1vz 6 ай бұрын
Then you are a smart man
@HickoryDickory86
@HickoryDickory86 5 ай бұрын
Exactly! My idea has always been that they should have taken Lucas' script treatments, handed them off to a reputable screenwriter, and allowed him or her, in partnership with Lucas, to flesh out and refine the screenplays for all three films in advance. That way, every who needs to will know the overarching story of the trilogy from the get-go. Then I would have brought on a reputable director to bring it to the big screen. I would prefer just the one director for all three films, for consistency of vision across the trilogy. (Alfonso Cuarón is such a phenomenal director, and I would love to see what he would do for Star Wars.) And I would have invited Lucas to be involved in the creative process, from beginning to end, as either a producer or an executive producer, whichever he preferred. That way he would know he had the freedom to step in and make corrections where he felt they were necessary for his story. That would also give him the freedom to step back, disengage, and spend more time with his family whenever he wanted or needed to. This is always how I wished Lucas had approached the Prequels, and it was how I was hoping Disney would approach the sequels.
@unit-spe7558
@unit-spe7558 6 ай бұрын
who is the French guy already, please, that I offer him good cheese! 😁 So you guys are critical of franchises/companies, like Disney, but without doing grift like people like Nerdrotic, and you know how to balance things? Interesting
@alexsantiago3181
@alexsantiago3181 11 күн бұрын
Very interesting. I can barely tell if gou guys are star wars fans, but i respect it.
@chevyblaze3773
@chevyblaze3773 2 ай бұрын
If yall think effap and g and g and nerdrotic are racist then yall aren't the kinda channel I wanna be watching anymore. Unsub
@briandain8432
@briandain8432 4 ай бұрын
The Freeze Frame around 10 minutes looks like the guy just got back from the Dentist and his mouth is still Numb. Or his face is slowly melting... I walked away from Diznee SterWerz after the 2nd Abomination called Star Wars. If you have lapped up everything since You deserve disappointment... Besides isn't this the guy made famous for Crying when CGI Luke first showed up? He definitely has development issues.
@patrickmahomes3616
@patrickmahomes3616 4 ай бұрын
You play with LEGOS and other kid's toys, and yet you somehow dare to accuse others of having "development issues." It takes one to know one.
@vatopunko
@vatopunko 5 ай бұрын
I low key view theory as the simple jack of the star wars fandom. That's not the kindest comparison but there aren't that many tactful words that capture his wildly limited scope.
@aidenmacneill8397
@aidenmacneill8397 6 ай бұрын
This is my favorite efap clone
@edwaaard46
@edwaaard46 5 ай бұрын
What is this, please? You guys are behaving like high school teenagers bullying theory. "George Lucas would be embarrassed to know about your sh*t existence."… Just one of the terrible lines against SWT. I mean, how disrespectful are you here? That is not about critics here; it's just plain awful to watch you talk for three hours in bad language about a guy who has a different opinion than yours. I mean, for sure, SW Theory has been a little behind and blind recently, but he for sure, like everyone else in this world, makes mistakes, learns important lessons or changes his perspective or opinions. Mauler, for example, is maybe the best thing Theory can happen. Because finally someone can challenge his views and beliefs. But to sh*t on Theory this way, as if he is a dumb idiot that can never be wrong sometimes.... that has nothing to do with criticism, that is just pure hate on a person you dislike.
@HB-zi3og
@HB-zi3og 6 ай бұрын
The knowledge vs understanding problem is best represented by 70% of surveyed Americans believing that Martin Sheen would be a GREAT President of the USA, and that actors opinions carry more weight than your neighbours opinions.
@FriendlyDarkwraith
@FriendlyDarkwraith 6 ай бұрын
I'm both surprised and disappointed that SEA isn't actually Kanye West with a robot hand. Darth Melvin lied to me.
@TheSEAempire
@TheSEAempire 6 ай бұрын
Sadly the Shilltastic 4 has disbanded 😢
@BrentButler
@BrentButler 6 ай бұрын
I was aware of Star Wars theory, had seen a few old vids explaining expanded universe lore that I enjoyed. When Andor came out and I was so excited there was an actually good piece of new Star Wars content in the world, so I went on KZfaq looking up reviews, and came across him and one of his buddies bashing it for “not being Star Wars,” and realized he was unwittingly one of the most toxic elements in Star Wars fandom. I really wish him well. I watched his discussion with Mauler and he just strikes me as really sad, overly obsessed with his image, and upset with everything, yet tragically unable to articulate any of it. Bummed me out.
@laughingman9574
@laughingman9574 4 ай бұрын
"overly obsessed with his image"...thank you for noticing this. He is insufferable.
@ArathornAurellia
@ArathornAurellia Ай бұрын
Any SW Theory slander is good slander.
@Dan_theSandwichman
@Dan_theSandwichman 5 ай бұрын
I have a beard but no mustache. My upper lip has no testosterone.
@GarseJanacek
@GarseJanacek 6 ай бұрын
Disney Star Wars is a complete dumpster fire.
@StonyStark
@StonyStark 6 ай бұрын
Finally someone calls out the FNT crew. They’ve had good criticism before but when they do their podcasts it becomes so polarized on like 2-3 different issues that they can’t seem to get away from 😂
@KryoTronic
@KryoTronic 6 ай бұрын
Andor is the best Star Wars show of all time, Period.
@Akiraspin
@Akiraspin 6 ай бұрын
You mean the only one that isn't completely fucking dogshit? Yeah I guess you're right.
@lukew6725
@lukew6725 4 ай бұрын
Best Star Wars in the past 40 years!
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