Retro Fun: Windows 98 on a Dell Dimension 2400

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Retro Fun: Windows 98 on a Dell Dimension 2400
When I tried to give this box away for free nobody wanted to have it. It has a lack of AGP. Can we still make it into a great retro machine? I think yes with the help of some expensive parts! :D
We remove the Windows XP virus and install good old Windows 98 on the machine!
How to Install Windows 98 on the Dell Dimension 2400 by @ComputerCatGaming
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@MixShadowlight Жыл бұрын

That's because the dimension 2400 is a dumb down version of the Dimension 4600, which had the AGP slot, and 2 more memory slots. Dell of this time period quite literally used the same parts across the different skews of their product lineup, with features taken away as you approach the lower end budget tier.

@TheLEDscientist Жыл бұрын

it was an office box. nothing more. onboard video back then was the right way to go

@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын

I'll take it 😋

@victorbart Жыл бұрын

No problem 😁 pickup location in the Netherlands near Amsterdam! I can bring it to Schiphol airport for you 😃

@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын

@@victorbart 😄😅

@georgez8859 Жыл бұрын

The Dell Dimension 4600 is the same Machine. The Motherboard will fit right in and It has a better Chipset and an AGP Slot. Easy Swap. Thanks for the Video.

@jamesross3939 Жыл бұрын

Good to know. I'd like to try that.

@hitechfl Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@moosemelody4786 Жыл бұрын

Collect some PCI Graphics cards and do a benchmark video of this PC, perhaps try overclocking the pci bus and CPU to see if it makes any differences! This is such an under-explored topic in the retro computer world! - Try saturating the PCI bus with cards and then run benchmarks, please try something / ANYTHING with graphics on the pci bus!

@cjhawk67 Жыл бұрын

The lack of AGP was a huge let down but these where otherwise really stable well built machines. The bigger 4500s and 8200s are better machines though they came with ATI Rage 128s Riva TNT and sometimes even Geforce 256 cards and most got SB Live! 5.1 cards as well.

@chrisrudi7162 Жыл бұрын

I already have the solution for the AGP problem. I have the same problem here with a server multiprocessor motherboard with 2x Xeon 3.6 GHz and socket 604. I bought a PCI to PCI Express adapter and used a Radeon R7 250 with a low profile on top. Works flawlessly and has excellent performance for the system. It achieves almost 13,000 points in 3dmark 2001 with 32 bit and 1280 x 1024 px with this card. With a Pentium 4 1.8 GHz and 533 FSB with a GeForce 750Ti on the PCI bus, I got a gigantic 7980 points in 3dmark 2001 at 1280 x 1024 at 32 bit 😁

@vonhapen1 Жыл бұрын

That was a very subtle hint 😂 And where did your beard went to all of a sudden? 😮 Magic...

@hugovieira6298 Жыл бұрын

An FX 5500 PCI is a very good GPU for that build and can emulate Glide with nGlide 😉

@Error42_ Жыл бұрын

@0:53 mark I'm calling it... lack of AGP. That's why I scrapped a few of these I bought cheap and just used them for the cases. Apart from the now outdated look of the front the cases are quite nice, they are very solid and well made.

@kamranbabar Жыл бұрын

I have a lot of memories with this computer. I remember getting my first computer in 2006; it was custom-built. After a year or two, it got burnt due to a shorted power supply. Then, I got the Dell Dimensions 2400 with an Intel Celeron Processor, 256MB RAM, and an 80GB Hard Drive. It was installed with Windows XP OS, but we didn't have an internet connection at that time. Only on Sundays, I could use a dial-up connection by connecting the Home V-Wireless telephone with the computer through a cable. It cost 20PKR Rs for 20 minutes of internet surfing time, which was not cheap back then, and the internet speed was only 10-25Kbps. I played a lot of games on this computer, and those were some of my best days, even though I didn't have the internet.

@heman248 Жыл бұрын

I remember me crying because I discovered this computer didnt have agp, remember my friend that had a no brand motherboard playing with a realgpu and me with intel extreme graphics, they were so extreme I felt like I was in a helicopter while playing on this machine

@masgatos1801 6 ай бұрын

I got this for Christmas 2003, 20 years ago, and man it was 1 step forward and 2 steps back, it was nice to have a 2ghz cpu but no agp was a huge letdown, I couldn’t play any of the modern games at the time. I installed the pci fx 5200 gpu, and it was so cut back compared to its agp variant. HL2 I could play on low with stutters, Doom 3 was a slideshow on lowest, Far Cry also a slideshow. I upgraded to the Dell Xps with a PCI Express 6800, and that was quite the improvement!

@robertchamberlin2362 Жыл бұрын

Awesome I have the dell 4600 that i did a few mods to it and use for retro gaming

@mattparker9726 Жыл бұрын

4:02 DO IT VICTOR! DOOOOOOO ITTTTTTTTTTTTT!

@GeoffSeeley Жыл бұрын

@18:40 Ah! Now I remember why we left the 9x platform for dead and continued on with NT platform.

@TribbleBot Жыл бұрын

I got a 2350 from my wife's step-mom some years back, put Slackware on it, and ran it as a home server for quite some time. The lack of an AGP slot didn't matter for that role, and as I recall it ran pretty reliably.

@jamesross3939 Жыл бұрын

using ComputerCatGaming's guide I was able to get Windows 98 SE up and running on a Dell Dimension 2400 I picked up along with a nice Samsung 700DF CRT monitor for $20 at an office that was going out of business sale. I rather like running Windows 98 on this box using the onboard graphics. However I think I must have an early revision of the motherboard as I have the "Intel Extreme Graphics" and not the "Intel Extreme Graphics 2" even though the driver works after skipping 2 files. And I have "Other Device -- PCI Universal Serial Bus" question mark in the device manager even though USB is working fine. In my HUMBLE opinion it's nice little box for Windows 98. (notice the all caps on humble! I want to make sure you know I am humble hahaha!) I would like to try the Dell Dimension 4600 now!!

@victorbart Жыл бұрын

Yes with no upgrades it is just a solid basic box for some 3D gaming with older titles :)

@mattparker9726 Жыл бұрын

0:28 This is a WAY BETTER system, beause that particular system looks like what EVERYONE'S MOM HAD back in the day. That exact Dell P4 design is what I played Tomb Raider on for the first time. Such a cool terrible system.

@jimmyschmidt14 2 ай бұрын

My mom bought a new 486 PC in 2001. I missed out on Tomb Raider and new games for next 10 years because of that error. To her defence that period of time was that fastest advancing for home computers.

@BadManiac Жыл бұрын

We still get these back once in a while at work, they got straight to the scrap heap. No one should try to keep them. P4 are better left forgotten.

@jimmyschmidt14 2 ай бұрын

🙉

@mattparker9726 Жыл бұрын

8:34 I have about 8 or 19 HDDs JUST like that Maxtor. I could start an 2003 era server if I wanted to. Or at least a local file server.

@moosemelody4786 Жыл бұрын

Willing to bet it has no GPU slot, I owned one when I was younger. We put a PCI graphics card inside which helped a little bit.

@Tech_481 Жыл бұрын

The funny thing is I have the same pc in front of me now and I'm struggling to install windows xp on it lol

@maciekzockt4899 Жыл бұрын

A time ago i found the same system in my city on the side of the road, with a terrible intel celeron inside. Lack of AGP intel Onboard Graphics, none standart connectors.. The case looks realy cool, i remeber the advert of this pc long time ago, everyone want to have it. Today only option to upgrade is a PCI video card, but for pentium 4 are most of them to slow. The Dell motherboard with AGP for this System costs about 40€ .. You can create the patition also with the windows98cd fdisk, fdisk shows wrong numbers but it is no problem to create and format a 80gigabyte partition.

@hugovieira6298 Жыл бұрын

I think that "PCI Universal Serial Bus" not installed in the device manager is the USB 2.0 that does not come with Win98SE natively and you have to install the drivers from the motherboard manufacturer...

@LolJolk Жыл бұрын

I had this similar dell with 2.6ghz P4 and windows xp, I tried to use it in 2013 but it was really slow

@victorbart Жыл бұрын

Install WIndows 98 on it!

@moardargons8160 Жыл бұрын

Would AGP work if you soldered a connector there? What is the name of the AGP connector? Are they still sold?

@deepfakedvds Ай бұрын

The chipset doesn't support AGP, so it wouldn't work

@StenIsaksson Жыл бұрын

USB 1.1 I guess. "Fast and Furious" Let's do Voodoo Triple SLI DELL and HP always use their own custom BIOS

@tripleffarms2872 7 ай бұрын

Lol my aunt said I'm sending you my old computer I'm thinking wow a Lenovo 😢

@mustafazorba6156 Жыл бұрын

nice

@scheitinjebroek Жыл бұрын

The maximum drive size for windows 98 is 128GB. Philscomputerlab made a video about it. But around 8 GB will do for windows 98

@bitelaserkhalif Жыл бұрын

@P L H that's for ram, not for storage Rloew's patch can solve that problem

@BilisNegra 8 ай бұрын

@@bitelaserkhalif RAM????? Even if you mistook gigs for megs it would still make no sense since 98 can do at least 512 MB of RAM.

@skynetcybersystem3tech Жыл бұрын

👍

@Inject0r Жыл бұрын

2:09 I’m trying to guess here: no AGP slots? :p

@alvar891 Жыл бұрын

I have a compaq board that has a k6 500mhz cpu and all the modern conveniences atx psu, sd ram, usb, ps2 ports etc. But it has that same fatal problem no agp slot rendering it almost useless for a retro build. That thing even booted to a sata ssd thru a ide to sata adapter. That dell would also be perfect for xp gaming otherwise.

@hugovieira6298 Жыл бұрын

Well, i have a Asrock 775i65g (socket 775 and i865g chipset) with a Celeron 440 2.0ghz (single-core with no HT just like an old Pentium) wich is already a Core based CPU and runs extremely well Win98SE with a PCI V3 3000. This motherboard let you use SATA drives in compatibility mode for Win9x, so no IDE to SATA adapters... 775 still is Win9x valid 😁

@SilverX95 Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't hate Dell too much, at least it's easy to get ahold of drivers for their machines on their website, unlike other OEM's. where they just deleted them from existence and pretend that certain model computer doesn't exist and certain third party hardware manufacturers went missing along with their website's.

@SilverX95 Жыл бұрын

Probably could add in AGP slot though it would require a lot of diagnosing and testing. I've seen it done to other stuff. This would be something fun for the modding community to figure out.

@carstuskaktus7638 Жыл бұрын

I have the same machine for my model railroad... 🤷 Edit: my Machine has a PCI-X with Radeon X300. Its also not the same Machine... its a 2450.

@moardargons8160 Жыл бұрын

If you don't need DOS then Windows ME is better for a newer system like this. Less trouble, more hardware support.

@ComputersAndRetro Жыл бұрын

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

@jimmyschmidt14 2 ай бұрын

People are using Windows Me instead of 98 on these because of the broader compatibility. . Me is basically the last version of 98. Has custom drivers available to. 98 was good maybe like in 2016 but in 2024 Me is where it's at. lol.

@mattparker9726 Жыл бұрын

If I wanted to be really mean I'd send you my Celeron socket 478.

@mattparker9726 Жыл бұрын

5:21 you keep joking about how shit this system is, you're not wrong, you're really not, but.... just try it. Eat the digital broccoli. It's good for content.