Obi-Wan Kenobi: Shackled Saga, Smaller World - What the Patterson Cut Reveals

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Michael views Obi-Wan Kenobi, as well as the fan-made "Patterson Cut" of the series into a standalone film. His thoughts? Find out.

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@simplegarak
@simplegarak Жыл бұрын
"No Luke. I am your father." "Ooooooh! THAT'S why people kept attacking our house while I was growing up."
@KasumiKenshirou
@KasumiKenshirou Жыл бұрын
"This was your father's lightsaber." "Wow, I've never seen a BLUE one before. Only that red one that crazy lady tried to kill me with!"
@jjdinanno4147
@jjdinanno4147 Жыл бұрын
This was absolutely brutal. I loved every minute of it. The thing is, your take is cleanly and clearly obvious. Watching Obi-Wan I thought of most of these plot and continuity problems. I'd think to myself after each episode, "What am I missing that this feels so disconnected? Am I being a bad fan? " So, in this case, what you uncover in the video is patently and pathetically obvious, and it is your delivery of those facts that is brilliant. Thank you!
@mrillis9259
@mrillis9259 Жыл бұрын
Why couldn't they just have left Leia thinking he was Ben Kenobi, so that it could almost make sense.
@Daddyvader7
@Daddyvader7 5 күн бұрын
@@mrillis9259What? But in ep 4 she says “help me OBI WAN KENOBI” your my only Hope, not Ben Kenobi. Now it makes sense how she knows Kenobi, she met him when she was 9/10, remembers him and knows he’s a Jedi, he’s the only Jedi she’s ever met and keeps it a secret
@EnigmaticPenguin
@EnigmaticPenguin Жыл бұрын
My interpretation of "I wish I was." line to Leia was that he wanted to spare her from her true paternal parentage rather than alluding to an attraction to Padme. That's just how I read it. The ambiguity is a problem with the script.
@JTMitchell87
@JTMitchell87 Жыл бұрын
I think it all comes down to the person when they hear the line. I didn't even consider for a second that Obi meant he had feelings for Padme until way later when I saw a debate about it on Twitter. I agree that it was meant to come off as him being mournful that Leia will never know her true parents, while her father is now one of the evilest people in the galaxy.
@MrDrokkul
@MrDrokkul Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I never took it as a "I wish I'd a hit that! She wuh so fiiiine!" type line and Ewan didn't give it that inflection either. To me that's just a nitpick that people "wanted" to find. The script had problems, but that wasn't one of them.
@JTMitchell87
@JTMitchell87 Жыл бұрын
@@MrDrokkul I couldn't agree more.
@bluehero-96
@bluehero-96 Жыл бұрын
Given Ewan McGregor's tone when delivering that line, I would think that was obvious, but I guess not.
@SWTobito0702
@SWTobito0702 Жыл бұрын
You gotta hear that with a pretty dirty mind to misinterpret it that drastically from the intended message.
@Scott.Hughes
@Scott.Hughes Жыл бұрын
Your ability to logically examine and dissect a property is truly astounding. I had extreme problems watching the Obi-Wan series. However, you brought up concepts that I hadn't even considered. If we could only get Disney to hire someone with one-third the intellectual prowess that you possess to be a consultant, we would be relishing in the continuation in one the most cherished film series in history instead of face-palming ourselves into mashed potatoes. Bravo!!!
@zerocool5395
@zerocool5395 Жыл бұрын
Michael is a smart MF, his takes are always very insightful.
@chrisbullard5901
@chrisbullard5901 Жыл бұрын
Michael, regarding the Leia and Obi-Wan story arc, there’s another piece to it that breaks, and this is the one that ruined it for me: In “A New Hope”, Leia’s entire holographic message she plants in R2 for Kenobi is done in a way that explicitly shows she only knows of Kenobi through reputation alone. Like Luke forgetting all about the lightsaber attack on his home, it doesn’t make sense Leia would forget a long adventure with Kenobi. Star Wars has gotten as bad as the numerous Terminator sequels.
@Wolf359inc
@Wolf359inc Жыл бұрын
Leia could be feigning ignorance, as Obi-Wan asked her to do. Luke never saw Reva. It is possible he simply assumed the homestead was under attack by the Tusken Raiders, which is what the family planned these drills for. Please note: I am not defending the show, but merely offering potential solutions to these situations. :)
@freakshowfilmfestival3591
@freakshowfilmfestival3591 Жыл бұрын
They can wipe the kids minds like they did the droids.
@zerocool5395
@zerocool5395 Жыл бұрын
@@freakshowfilmfestival3591 Epstein was working on similar technology... lol
@thestarkknightreturns
@thestarkknightreturns Жыл бұрын
She was being careful as Obi-Wan told her. They couldn't show familiarity if the droids ended up in the Empire's hands.
@Fark2005
@Fark2005 Жыл бұрын
@@thestarkknightreturns In her message, Leia exposes herself, her father and her planet as being part of the Rebellion. She also reveals that she not only knows Obi-Wan (who is wanted by the Empire) is alive and knows his precise location, but she is also actively trying to recruit his help against the Empire. Should the droids have ended up in the hands of the Empire, Leia, her father, and the people of Alderaan would have been in deep podoo - Leia and Bail would certainly have been executed, and Obi-Wan would have been hunted down by the Empire - regardless if her greeting had been: "General Kenobi. Years ago you helped me and my family. Now we beg you to help us in our struggle against the Empire.” instead of "General Kenobi. Years ago you served my father in the Clone Wars. Now he begs you to help him in his struggle against the Empire.” (Leia, ANH)
@mjdgi1
@mjdgi1 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your videos it's so much common sense it's very refreshing
@Ragnarsson1975
@Ragnarsson1975 Жыл бұрын
What if Obi-Wan thought that Leia died when they destroyed Alderaan since that's where he was heading to meet her
@TeZXSpectrum
@TeZXSpectrum Жыл бұрын
I watched the Patterson cut a few weeks ago, it does a sterling job of washing over all that nonsense but as you said those cracks are already too deep to paint over. Disney really does need to take on new bold writers and sidestep from what we already know. It's really refreshing to watch you critique such failures without getting wrapped up in agenda politics and unfathomable hatred. Well done Michael for your level headedness. Goddammit, your good. Would I lie to You clips work a treat too. I'm standing up and clapping you Sir 👏👏👏👏
@kieronball8962
@kieronball8962 Жыл бұрын
A skilful dissection of the Obi-Wan corpse, by Michael French for the RetroBlasting Channel. It's a shame that Disney don't hire any scriptwriters as intelligent, or as knowledgeable of Star Wars, as Michael, to work on their Star Wars franchise.
@anthonywhitehead5576
@anthonywhitehead5576 Жыл бұрын
wow...you nailed this!! the plot holes you bring to light are astonishing...great work.. I knew it was bad....but wow!!
@irish3335
@irish3335 Жыл бұрын
Another well thought out and great commentary - thanks for putting all of our thoughts into a well summarized video! Closing in on 100k subscribers - congrats on your great success!
@Vidiot-Savant
@Vidiot-Savant Жыл бұрын
Almost all of the prequelization of STAR WARS (1977) has only served to assassinate Obi-Wan's character from the original movie. He was tasked with hiding away Luke to safeguard him from Vader and the Emperor, and does so by leaving him with Anakin's step brother on Anakin's home planet, all the while continuing to dress as a Jedi and only bothering to change his first name to Ben. In the original movie, Obi-Wan was only dressed in beige robes because that was desert clothing, Tusken Raiders also wear them, but then the prequels retconned them into official Jedi robes. I guess you could argue that Vader would never want to step foot on Tattooine again, so hiding Luke there is actually clever, but there has to be a pretty big bounty out on Obi-Wan Kenobi by the Empire. Just imagine Vader, in his pod, getting news of a Ben Kenobi who only ever wears Jedi robes, living on Tattooine. It all just makes Obi-Wan look like a huge dumbass.
@Ruylopez778
@Ruylopez778 Жыл бұрын
Tatooine was established as as far away from a bright part of the galaxy as you can get. And Luke had never been to Mos Eisley. The prequels established that Tatooine was outside of the republic's control, and run by gangsters. It's also implied in ANH that Obi-Wan was a hermit. You don't think that Obi-Wan was dressed to resemble a wizard or samurai, as Vader was? It was just pure chance he looked as he did? Obi-Wan is able to take down just about anyone, and mind trick or distract stormtroopers, so there's really no reason for him to dress in disguise, although I agree he could do that. It was also Yoda's idea that Luke be placed on Tatooine - and considering that Anakin suffered from being separated from his family and losing his identity, there is a certain logic in returning Luke to the closest thing he has to family. Everything in the Kenobi D+ show is nonsense, though. As for the 'damage' the prequels did to Obi-Wan, the prequels show that both Obi-Wan and Yoda can learn from their mistakes, and still believe in their ideals even under the burden of so much failure and despair.
@bloodysimile4893
@bloodysimile4893 Жыл бұрын
It took usa years to find and kill bin lama on one planet. Now, try finding an individual who is in hiding on a galaxy scale who isn't sending video mocking a government that he still alive.
@Vidiot-Savant
@Vidiot-Savant Жыл бұрын
@@bloodysimile4893 Osama Bin Laden didn't move to Crawford Texas, change his name to Osama Ben Laden, and just wander about town dressed exactly like his Wanted poster either. Which is essentially what Obi Wan did because of all the rewriting of his backstory pre A New Hope.
@longann7560
@longann7560 Жыл бұрын
Nuff said. Right on the spot as usual ! Cheers !
@darthwizzywizard
@darthwizzywizard Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. Michael your patience to go through this step by step is incredible. Amazing work. I am truly amazed at the grade school level of writing Disney seems to continuously hire. Incredible. Inconceivable we are at this point in Star Wars World.
@yesterlandtoys1138
@yesterlandtoys1138 Жыл бұрын
Michael you took the thoughts right out of my mind on this and brought it to light in another over the top video presentation! Well said, excellently transcribed and 100% factual! To a tee!
@keegobricks9734
@keegobricks9734 Жыл бұрын
I think I've moved on from indifference to star wars to actually hating it. I have respect for the film makers of the original for how they pushed special effects so far forward, and respect for George Lucas for his phenomenal business sense, but I think I hate the actual franchise now.
@somarriba333
@somarriba333 Жыл бұрын
To me, the one thing that makes the Patterson Cut SO much better than the series was one simple line added. Qui-Gon's voice telling Obi-Wan that Anakin is still the Chosen One. It just blows me away how clueless the writer's of the show would not think of that. I figured if there had to be a rematch, something would happen out of Kenobi's control that would prevent him from killing Vader and has to leave him there beaten. But nope. They just do Mustafar again and Obi-Wan does what he must and leaves. Another thing the writers should have done, and I know it probably wouldn't make that much of s difference, they should have made this show maybe 5 years after "Revenge of the Sith" or less. Have it be closer to the fall of the Republic. That way, it makes sense that Vader is still obsessed with finding Kenobi and maybe there are some few remaining Jedi that are being hunted.
@frankbizzoco1954
@frankbizzoco1954 Жыл бұрын
Wow, that was a very well put together, cohesive synopsis of everything that is wrong with the current situation of Star Wars. Your best video to date on the subject. Great video Michael!
@blackedd623
@blackedd623 Жыл бұрын
Great video, the problem is as always the risk averse way they approach the property. I'm sure there's lots of stories you could tell in the Star Wars universe some of the video games did this without a problem, but they will not take the risk which is a real shame as there is plenty of room in the sandbox for all kinds of stories to be told.
@davidbrown7429
@davidbrown7429 Жыл бұрын
The cuts to David Mitchel ranting on "Would I lie to you?" are brilliant
@josetheoriginaltoyhunter2132
@josetheoriginaltoyhunter2132 Жыл бұрын
Great video and a excellent interpretation of the mistakes that star wars has. And it all starts with Lucas.
@WyzGyzEntertainment
@WyzGyzEntertainment Жыл бұрын
Yes Lucas made mistakes but in my eyes the fact he brought the 6 movie saga to the world overshadows the mistakes made.
@stravellwood
@stravellwood 7 ай бұрын
I've had the utmost respect for RetroBlasting since I first discovered your channel. After watching this video that level of respect has only grown. The propeller hats at Disney should assemble a Quality Assurance focus group and have them watch this upload. They could only better their future body of work and themselves by doing so. Kudos to Michael and Melinda and everything RetroBlasting!! 👏👏
@candoentertainment9118
@candoentertainment9118 Жыл бұрын
Great video Michael. Very well thought out and researched. I enjoyed it
@snogurt
@snogurt Жыл бұрын
Oh my god that cut to Luke saying “I’m with you too” was so hilariously perfect 😂- haven’t laughed that hard in a while :)
@bentonrp
@bentonrp Жыл бұрын
In all of your video essays, your top-tier, meticulous choice of words to convey each and every one of your purpose-filled and righteous statements... is never lost on meeee!!! ♥️
@angelbangtana9885
@angelbangtana9885 Жыл бұрын
As usual RB gives form to those of us who can't articulate why we don't like the new direction
@judehanley9980
@judehanley9980 Жыл бұрын
Awesome job RB!
@Wisconsin_Local_139_Crane_Guy
@Wisconsin_Local_139_Crane_Guy Жыл бұрын
God damn man! Good stuff. Love these.
@reccesam7799
@reccesam7799 Жыл бұрын
Flawless analysis. Thank you, Michael, for summing-up our collective soul crushing sadness of what Star Wars has become.
@ZuluUtahKiloOscar
@ZuluUtahKiloOscar Жыл бұрын
This is why I enjoy RetroBlasting "review" content. Thorough, intelligent takes with respect to the material in all it forms (books, shows, movies). A refreshing change from the usual suspects whining about wokeness and other tired topics in their surface-level analyses. Thanks, Michael!
@myronaustin
@myronaustin Жыл бұрын
Death by a thousand cuts. . . The forensics on this is pretty spot-on! 👍🏾👍🏾💯🔥
@georgegolston5417
@georgegolston5417 Жыл бұрын
Always love your in-depth reviews. I feel the same and have had many an discussion with friends about Star Wars and other properties when it come s to their respected universes.
@wikkidperson
@wikkidperson Жыл бұрын
Imagine what Kevin Smith’s Obi Snoochies Wan Kenboochies might have been like…
@UsualmikeTelevision
@UsualmikeTelevision Жыл бұрын
This was an amazing assessment into a baffling Star Wars TV show. Great video!
@danarnold8989
@danarnold8989 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video truly such an under rated channel
@diggingattycho7908
@diggingattycho7908 Жыл бұрын
I think all of the great sci-fi properties(SW, ST, WHO) are well beyond saving. Because those who own those properties, either do not care. Or do not have the understanding of what needs to be done to save those properties. Even if they did, finding the people who can see the changes through. Left Hollywood a long time ago, like you say Michael. "The fans do the best work", it will be up to some of them out there who will one day create original sci-fi IP's for us to explore.
@tydiriumhanger1320
@tydiriumhanger1320 Жыл бұрын
Yes Michael Star Wars has spiraled downward since 2015 so lets make something fun like BIONIC SIX!!!!
@tperson8347
@tperson8347 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. On point as always.
@tperson8347
@tperson8347 Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't think it would take forgetfulness for Obi-Wan to omit the prospect of Leia as a jedi. I think it simply means that this an absolutely monumental, insurmountable task & that this was such a desperate situation that you couldn't stand another Skywalker turning to the dark side. It would make Leia's job a whole lot harder if she were to be trained and then pit against the Emperor & Luke, or Vader & Luke. Two Skywalkers
@toydisorder
@toydisorder Жыл бұрын
Thank you Michael! I have tried making these points to friends of mine but you have done it in such great detail I will be sharing your video. Why do other fans not see what we see?!
@OP-dy1hd
@OP-dy1hd Жыл бұрын
There is this KZfaqr named Magog who said a few weeks ago about IP's that we've grown up with and love that we should just let them go. Let them go in the sense that they will never be what we'd like them to be. Disney has no great plan for Star Wars, we all know that way too well these days. Sadly I don't think Disney will ever let the Star Wars IP go because if they did eventually sell it off, they'd have to admit defeat when the next person who owns it actually makes it great. And Disney's ego is too big to ever allow that to happen.
@enanvigil
@enanvigil Жыл бұрын
Outstanding job brother
@gameragodzilla
@gameragodzilla 3 ай бұрын
I don’t really agree with the idea that prequels need to go off on its own thing due to a lack of narrative tension otherwise. With prequels, the main interesting thing in the story is how we got to that point, the journey being the interesting part. So while we know how it ends, how we got to that ending is what makes us curious. Of course, that very much does depend on whether said journey is of any interest to begin with. Only certain stories are worth having their backstories fully elaborated upon.
@zachwilliams4395
@zachwilliams4395 Жыл бұрын
The inquisitors in Rebels do not bother me. I see them as force sensitive pawns being used by Vader and the Emperor. It is only natural to have survivors with so many force users in the galaxy. If you have a problem with other force users during the Rebellion era, you are probably not going to like the old Expanded Universe. Where do you think Mara Jade came from? She was a force sensitive Hand of the Emperor. Honestly Michael, Obi-Wan is not bad because of characters like the inquisitors and other force sensitive survivors. The issue with the Obi-Wan show is how poorly the writers utilized the Inquisitors and the terrible direction they took with established old trilogy characters. Rebels did its own thing and only occasionally had appearances by known characters like Leia or Vader. Rebels also made efforts to establish action away from places like Tatooine. When they did involve Tatooine, it was a very small affair with Ben Kenobi, Maul, and Ezra. Very self contained. Disney has made MANY mistakes with Star Wars. The Rebels show is not one of them. I would argue Rebels is the best achievement under Disney's ownership of the brand.
@zachwilliams4395
@zachwilliams4395 Жыл бұрын
@@sugmabooboo9294 Oh really? So tell me what Disney content is better than the 4 seasons of Rebels? It sure as heck is not the Sequel Trilogy or a bore fest like Solo. Mandalorian, Rogue One? Those 2 entries are the only content that could be better than Rebels.
@zachwilliams4395
@zachwilliams4395 Жыл бұрын
@@sugmabooboo9294 Well, I don't disagree with Disney Star Wars having varying degrees of bad. I don't see Mando or Rebels in that category though. Rebels even came out before Force Awakens, so it wasn't like taking a bad ex back. Mando and Rebels made some questionable decisions, but they are still better than certain old Lucas content (see Prequels). They actually attempt to world build outside of the small world view of a show like Obi-Wan. Disney spent billions to acquire Star Wars. I expect them to pump out content and toys. Anyone who expects them to just sit on the IP and re-release the OT and PT is nuts. That said, I will call them out for disasters like Last Jedi and the Rise of Skywalker. I didn't buy a single piece of merchandise related to those shows. I didn't even see RoS in theaters after the disappointment of The Last Jedi. I trust the fans will speak with their wallets. If Rebels had been such a failure, it would have ended long before reaching 4 seasons and 75 episodes of content.
@rektangular
@rektangular Жыл бұрын
Very well stated and I completely agree with everything you said here. Thanks for making this video!
@leomad0000
@leomad0000 Жыл бұрын
SW enthusiasts who understand the OT need to let go of the brand and stop acknowledging shitzney products. Those people don't understand the IP they purchased, and they do not respect the audience, nor the lore. Let it go, friends, let it go...
@KasumiKenshirou
@KasumiKenshirou Жыл бұрын
I stopped after I saw "The Last Jedi". I came back for The Mandalorian after I heard good things (watched it without subscribing for my own Disney+ account, though). Then they fired Gina Carano and I was gone for good.
@KasumiKenshirou
@KasumiKenshirou Жыл бұрын
@@projektkobra2247 Speaking of posters, did you see that shirt Disney made where they "Potato Jesus"-ed the Return of the Jedi poster and replaced "Slave Leia" with Leia in her Hoth outfit (which she obviously never wears in ROTJ)?
@markvillani8836
@markvillani8836 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff!!! You nailed it. I know Redlettermedia will be proud! Please, can you tell us how to find the Patterson cut? Or the Maple Films Hobbit cut? Thanks!!
@shatteredglass233
@shatteredglass233 Жыл бұрын
Preach Michael...PREACH!!!🤚🤚
@almostliamneeson8029
@almostliamneeson8029 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your movie analysis videos
@brandonknight3527
@brandonknight3527 Жыл бұрын
Spot on with you analysis of that mini-series. I was difficult to watch, as it destroyed already established canon from the OT.
@sepp4815
@sepp4815 4 күн бұрын
14:10 / 31:07 you know that in comics other jedis survived and also what about palpetines hand Mara Jane, there were more like her under palpetines order, the iqusitors are just a new version of it and all dead when episode 4 starts. think the retcon if it even is one with Tarking is okay its nothing major and when all inquisitors are dead at this point in time its actually no retcon and even when some small retcons like this are okay
@christarride
@christarride Жыл бұрын
Spot on video. I’m OK with Jedi existing between the prequels and the OT provided that those characters maintain a very low profile on the outskirts of the galaxy where their presence was sparse to begin with.
@NebLleb
@NebLleb Жыл бұрын
Me too. In fact, that's one of the reasons why the 2008 game Star Wars: The Force Unleashed is so popular: It does what Rebels attempted to do by focusing on Jedi heroes after Revenge of the Sith, but it did so in the right way. Even the concept of force wielders working for the Empire is done better! The main character, Galen/"Starkiller", is kept a secret from most of the Empire as Vader's apprentice as Vader saw the potential in him. Of course, ultimately Vader would betray him and send him on the path to becoming the Jedi who singlehandedly kickstarted the Alliance to Restore the Republic in the old Legends canon, but that's neither here or there.
@BluGhostCustoms
@BluGhostCustoms Жыл бұрын
This is awesome Michael and well said as usual.
@djnary2896
@djnary2896 Жыл бұрын
28:41....could NOT have said it better myself!! I tapped out when Vader used the Force to stop an escaping spaceship in its tracks (why didn't he do that to the Falcon at Echo Base?!?) All logical sense is out the window.
@ShawHortonMusic
@ShawHortonMusic Жыл бұрын
Excellent video essay! I greatly enjoyed it. As much of a curveball as ROTJ’s “Leia is Luke’s sister” twist is, what’s done is done. Moving forward after that film, Luke and Leia are brother and sister. I personally don’t care if Leia becomes a Jedi after ROTJ, as she was much more interested in politics anyway. JJ Abrams continuing her story/character trajectory as a political/military leader was completely fine with me. That being said, Luke and Leia are now brother and sister after ROTJ, and I can’t believe Luke would abandon his sister and completely give up hope on his nephew. To never adequately explain why Luke would completely give up hope on Ben Solo and abandon his family to clean up the mess he created is, in my opinion, one of the sequel trilogy’s primary failures.
@haydentcem
@haydentcem Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t the main thing there to say that Luke fell into the same rut as the old Jedi Order?
@sinistavoicez
@sinistavoicez Жыл бұрын
Amazing work
@Youcannotfalter
@Youcannotfalter Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@lalikaligopi
@lalikaligopi Жыл бұрын
Very, very, very well said!
@kasaibouF29
@kasaibouF29 Жыл бұрын
Predictability isn't a bad thing. If you know a character well enough, you can predict what they would do in a given situation. If what they do makes sense with who they are, then that's good writing.
@WOOKMEISTA
@WOOKMEISTA Жыл бұрын
Agree, I do! Thanks for this, bud x
@darthsensei3838
@darthsensei3838 5 ай бұрын
Star Wars was 6 movies. No more, no less.
@frostyfoster6056
@frostyfoster6056 Жыл бұрын
While I commend the Patterson cut for the attempt and enjoy most of the changes he did, the flaws with the series run way too deep. Just make more original stories and stop allowing this franchise to remain creatively bankrupt.
@redadamearth
@redadamearth Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was shockingly bad (the series). It's honestly amazing to me that after all this time and speculation, what they come up with was so shoddy and lazy; it felt as if they had written it literally 2 weeks before shooting. There are some movies and series that just can't be saved by even the most well-made fan edits. It's really a shame, because so many people wanted McGregor to finally have a film/series worthy of him, but even his oddly disconnected performance suggested that he knew it was disappointing.
@gerainthorton8980
@gerainthorton8980 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Well structured. I might have to try and find and watch this cut of Obi-Wan Kenobi. The Disney one was a bit of a comedy with the laser fence he could walk around or Storm Troopers telling him to getting down on his knees and he has his pistol pointing at them. Disney wanted the re-match they talked about when it was first announced. It would have been better to have them constantly miss each other and various locations. Or have two separate stories that relate to each other at certain points. Either how Obi-Wan or Vader handle certain situations or some flashbacks. The early part of the Empire would be an interesting time frame to write stories but think new characters would have been the way to go. Revenge of the Sith put everyone in place for A New Hope so each season of Obi-Wan needs to keep doing that.
@mainstay.
@mainstay. Жыл бұрын
Thanks. After watching the full Kenobi series I knew I didn't like it but as you have pointed out, there were 'so many' inconsistencies my mind couldn't pin them 'all' down, ending with me not being able to put my finger on any specific thing.
@drmguphy
@drmguphy Жыл бұрын
Is doesn’t read to me that Kenobi was forgetful regarding Leia but that he had no faith at all in her abilities and Yoda did, or perhaps that Yoda may have sensed her latent abilities where Kenobi could not.
@garym6315
@garym6315 Жыл бұрын
I'm certain that Reva was supposed to die in the penultimate episode with her failed attempt on Vader's life ending her story arc. Someone must have sent down word to keep her alive (for either a potential spinoff, a recurring character in their other shows, or just out of fear of killing off the strong black woman they'd hyped up so much), and that's why the finale felt so tacked on and inexplicable. How did she survive? How did she get off planet? How did she do all that and get to Tatooine while Ben is still trying to escape the orbiting Star Destroyer? Who does she think Luke is? Is she trying to get revenge on Vader by killing his son (how does she know this??) or does she just know he is important to Ben so wants to have revenge on him (for what reason?).
@jamesprise4252
@jamesprise4252 Жыл бұрын
gotta watch the whole thing, but stopped by for a like and comment ;)
@MillywiggZ
@MillywiggZ Жыл бұрын
‘Obi Wan: Into the Dark Years’
@christianbrix4311
@christianbrix4311 Жыл бұрын
Jesus, what an amazing video! Good to see the frequent nods to WILTY, David Mitchell's angry outbursts are the best! :)
@retroblasting
@retroblasting Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@BugRib
@BugRib Жыл бұрын
Always had a difficult time getting through the Brian Daley Han Solo novels for some reason having to do with the prose style, but loved both of the EU trilogies focusing on Solo. Anyone else have this experience?
@JCarrera27
@JCarrera27 8 күн бұрын
Damn, was planning on watching his cut, guess Kenobi will remain a Disney supported fanmade, thanks for your sacrifice
@robsytc1901
@robsytc1901 Жыл бұрын
Obi Wan was really good folks. I've watched like 4 times, Loved it.
@jonniehotdog
@jonniehotdog Жыл бұрын
As ever, well researched, argued and presented. The inter-trilogy years used to be something of a narrative void in terms of the Jedi/ Sith conflict. The Jedi are crushed at the end of episode 3, then basically in hiding, until Luke comes of age in episode 4. Disney’s continual need to revisit this period and probably some worry that it won’t be ‘Star Wars’ enough without force users, lightsabers, etc. makes it seem that this era is now full of rogue Jedi being hunted by semi-Sith. Return of the Jedi? They’ve hardly been away...
@treebotreviews
@treebotreviews Жыл бұрын
I truly think it was cool to see ice cube Jr in the show. His character was enjoyable for what we saw him. As for the inquisitors, they aren’t real sith as I thought. Very much like how Dooku trained an assassin.(ventress) Also the whole tarkin thing makes sense. Do not forget the inquisitors all get bodied by Ashoka, Cal, Vader, Kanan, Ezra, and Maul by the time Star Wars began. After they’re all dead Vader just said what Thanos said(I’ll do it myself) and did away with ALL of them after all the best died. Then began hunting Jedi himself.
@richardbuckley1232
@richardbuckley1232 Жыл бұрын
I’m so excited for this. 😀
@Merylstreep1949
@Merylstreep1949 Жыл бұрын
So does one download these fan edits or do you stream them? I'm kinda curious now thanks to your once again excellent videos 📹 👍
@contentstarved991
@contentstarved991 Жыл бұрын
I’m going to try something different. I never saw this new obi wan show…so I’m going to watch the fan edit without knowing what’s been changed or cut. That way I can judge it with fresh eyes without any contrast to the official it’s fixing.
@INCAnitysy
@INCAnitysy Ай бұрын
And how did that work out?
@ProjectCambrian
@ProjectCambrian Жыл бұрын
Fantastic examination Michael!! I have a Question for you as I think many a fan has pondered the question...what would be your Star Wars story to tell? Describe what ideas may have popped into your head, like character concepts, the whole nine yards if you have it. Just for shits and giggles you know! I don't care if it's even a Self Insert story where it's like Your character you may have played with the Roleplaying game. Perhaps you DM'd a game or it's one you came up with while just Organizing one of your shelves, who knows, nobody but you bub! Anyways it was just a silly idea and maybe it would be one good enough for a video for you! Me, I'm still writing mine for my fan series, making sure everything works as intended. I'm 48, soon to be 49 and I'm doing it because I want to, I enjoy it, I love it and it's one of the few things keeping me Caring for what happens to Star Wars. And my story is off the beaten path, a different story taking place in the Star Wars universe as yet Unexplored. I'm just curious as to what Your story would be. Anyone else like to hear a Star Wars story by Michael French here? *raises hand
@DemoDick1
@DemoDick1 Жыл бұрын
How about a story about a youngling that was rescued away from the temple during Order 66, taken to wild space, and raised *outside* the known galaxy. He’s raised and trained by a surviving Jedi to hunt Sith. He grows up hearing about Anakin Skywalker’s fall and emergence as Vader. And his studies are centrally focused on light saber combat since the Sith are back and dueling will become necessary. Then he returns to the known galaxy only to find that the Empire has already fallen. And there’s a NEW Skywalker running around with a light saber calling himself a Jedi. So our protagonist has to weigh trying to kill Luke to prevent another Vader. How would Luke convince another Jedi, completely foreign to him, that although he is the son of a mass murderer who gave himself over to the dark side, he’s actually an OK guy? That’s just off the top of my head. There’s a lot of potential in the SW universe. It’s too bad the writers aren’t aware of this.
@chriscummings4206
@chriscummings4206 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps the "...other" Yoda mentioned is Ben Solo!🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ZogDaMegnivizint
@ZogDaMegnivizint Жыл бұрын
To be honest, the line "Now the Jedi are all but extinct..." was always a problem, and symptomatic of the biggest issue with Starwars that cropped up as soon as they started trying to make sequels to the first movie. The background information given in the Original Starwars to explain how the landscape we see in that film came about was not supposed to be thought about too much. It was meant to establish the stakes of the adventure to come, and build up the threat of the antagonists in a single stand-alone adventure story. So you're telling me a single handicapped man, not only managed to eliminate every single force-user IN AN ENTIRE GALAXY, but also did it in less time than it takes for a cut of trousers to go out of style? Everyone? Seriously? How in hell could Obiwan and Tarkin have been so certain about that? You might argue that Jedi are so super special that even in an entire galaxy they would still be a manageable number but then you have to ask how Vader managed to find them at all? Space is big! You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is! I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space! The only way this line isn't an absurdity is if you dismiss it as the limited perspective of one old man, and not the canonical state of the universe... Oh shit, here come the Prequels, never fucking mind!
@WOOKMEISTA
@WOOKMEISTA Жыл бұрын
Also, “I will do what I must!”, said by Obi-Wan. So yeh, he spoke an absolute. Soooo, “Only Sith deal in absolutes.” 🤔
@mrrictus
@mrrictus Жыл бұрын
29:07 Harrison Ford has facial expression of a man who's thinking ' I am too old for this shit '.
@theygone6962
@theygone6962 Жыл бұрын
I am sorry I upset you, great show Blessing to you and yours
@jonathanulrich4905
@jonathanulrich4905 Жыл бұрын
Here here well spoken sir !
@glynmatthews6697
@glynmatthews6697 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@drmguphy
@drmguphy Жыл бұрын
After more consideration I’ve realised I was wrong so never mind my prior comment, awesome video BTW
@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860
@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860 Жыл бұрын
No one expects the imperial inquisition.
@dsc7964
@dsc7964 Жыл бұрын
Amazing. Period. 😁👍
@leomad0000
@leomad0000 Жыл бұрын
"You, my friend, are all that's left of their Religion..."
@seekerrsa8275
@seekerrsa8275 Жыл бұрын
I have no opinion on this as I checked out on Star Wars during the new movies, but man, you know a lot about this stuff. Well Researched and backed up with facts that make sense.
@MillywiggZ
@MillywiggZ Жыл бұрын
The British comedy scene is strong with this one…
@theBolderBoulder
@theBolderBoulder Жыл бұрын
I remember having distinct moments where I just felt completely disconnected from the show. I couldn’t quite put my finger on it, but, this video really brought to light what I unconsciously was feeling. Something just felt off about it. The more I think about the show, the more I seem to dislike it, sadly
@benhopper3363
@benhopper3363 Жыл бұрын
I really can't argue with anything in this video, however I do think Disney has redeemed itself with Andor, which might be the best writing/acting/storytelling in the entire Star Wars brand (and this is coming from someone who was completely burned out on anything and everything Star Wars). Andor could be and should be a model for all Star Wars shows going forward -- let a great writer/filmmaker like Tony Gilroy assemble his team of writers, actors and directors, and let them do their thing.
@NebLleb
@NebLleb Жыл бұрын
Obi-Wan: The Final Insult.
@choostopher5018
@choostopher5018 Жыл бұрын
"Sith Lords are our specialty" but that doesn't mean inquisitors 🤣. Anyway I heard the Emperor had a few Snokes in a Jar and Michael Burnham on speed dial if Anakin got big blue ghosted.
@bentonrp
@bentonrp Жыл бұрын
2:50 "There are probably more fan edits of the 3 Star Wars Prequels than any other film series." 💢✨💨AURALNAAAAUTS !!! 💫💨💥
@alexisrivera202
@alexisrivera202 Жыл бұрын
Superman #82 was pretty rad in 1993 when I was 11.
@JEDITOYMASTERS
@JEDITOYMASTERS Жыл бұрын
Well said.... I guess I need to go watch The Patterson Cut. Thanks Michael. Oh while I have you here.....any Star Wars Follies on the new wave of Retro Line on the horizon?
@blahblah6497
@blahblah6497 Жыл бұрын
I said it once and I'll say it again, they should have optioned and made The Thrawn Trilogy as the first cinematic trilogy. Then followed it with Lucas' final trilogy treatment. Hiring him as a consultant. Instead Kathy Kennedy wants to prove to the world that Lucas and Spielberg were wrong about her lack of creative talent by reimagining the entirety of all the Lucasfilm productions she was co-producer on.
@krraika1847
@krraika1847 Жыл бұрын
Like another comment said, every prequelization has messed up Obi-Wan's character in the long run. Aside from the nonsense of Obi-Wan hiding Luke on Tatooine (a planet which Vader not only was familiar with but also knew about Owen and Beru's whereabouts) and clearly not changing his name, he has been made more of a liar given how much he said in the OT has been contradicted. He was sidelined in TPM for Qui-Gon to discover Anakin (not helped with Obi-Wan and Anakin having no interaction between their introduction and Qui-Gon's funeral), made more strict and uncaring in AotC with him and Anakin bickering instead the film showing the two working well together (as seen with the pair only ever sharing a smile in the elevator scene and when Obi-Wan said "Good job, my Padawan!" after Anakin directed the clones to shoot down the droid tower or whatever) directed the clones to show, and even more callous with how he didn't try to bring Anakin over to the good side in RotS' final fight (a fight in which Obi-Wan left Anakin to die screaming in pain from being burned alive).
@ianbrewster8934
@ianbrewster8934 Жыл бұрын
I agree with just about everything you said. However in the original trilogy I never saw it as Obi-Wan not knowing that Leia is Luke's sister. And Yoda knowing something Obi-Wan didn't about their relationship. I more saw it as Obi-Wan not believing that Leia was powerful enough to take on Vader and the Emperor. In return of the Jedi Obi-Wan clearly tells Luke that Leia is his sister. And when Luke claims that he can't kill his own father Obi-Wan says then the emperor has already won. I always took it as Obi-Wan never thought Leia had what it takes to destroy the emperor invader but Luke did... That was my interpretation of it and that's kind of still my interpretation of it I could be wrong though but that's how I saw it.
@skabcat242
@skabcat242 Жыл бұрын
That Rogue One meme was spot on.
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