That first paragraph just shows the sad truth of American gamers and their lack of knowledge. Apparently to them, if they hear something remotely related to FM synth that sounds like Sonic 1-3, they're gonna call it "Genesis style" (And I REALLY hate hearing that "Genesis" name so often because to me, it's a clear indication that they know nothing but American stuff on the console, which are usually terrible. Oh, and Sonic too, but I'm pretty sure everyone and their grandparents know that.)

@1983parrothead Being fair, I don't remember seeing the games in arcades, especially not Super C. Most of the arcades I remember never had them (though an Ikari Warriors cab was not an uncommon sight oddly enough). Never played that version until well into adulthood, and wasn't a fan. Honestly, the NES games really just out-shined the hell out of the arcade, and not just because the gameplay was a lot tighter. Seriously, I could never get over how dull the colors were for both Contra arcade games compared to the bright, aggressive palette of the NES games. Being vertical wasn't a huge help, either. @Solar Flare Sorry Americans using the name they grew up with triggers you so. As to the FM Synth, that's what it mostly sounded like. That's going to be most people's point of reference unless they were die-hard PC gamers that had FM capable sound cards. The Genesis has a very distinctive sound compared to every other system before or since, it's not like people are comparing the sound to Atari. Granted the "ignorant American" is a trope often used by snobs on the other side of the pond to make themselves feel superior, so I'll let you have that.

+icedlain Yeah, it's odd why Konami chose that view style for a side scrolling action game. It doesn't bother me too much but it's far from normal, that's for sure.

Yep, the cover is quite a famous one.

+IcedEarthaholic yeah, I think so too. It's basically the NES game with new music.

+Andrew Vrba I love the orchestral hits used in it.

Retro Core Anytime you wanna show someone who missed out on the NES/Famicom the quality they were denied, you show them pretty much anything Konami ported from the arcades. I think its a toss up between them and Sunsoft, of who could do the best orchestrations on the hardware, with Capcom bringing up a close second.

@@SomeOrangeCat Yeah, especially to some of those weirdos who believe the Master System had a better sound chip than the nes. No, im not talking about the fm chip, im speaking of the 4 channel psg chip with 3 square waves and one noise

It was an odd choice for the style of game. I wonder why Konami decided that was a good idea. Even though there are sections where the player climbs up it still would work on a horizontal display.

and what do you know ms dos port of super contra too

+沖縄札幌 It looked like a late '80s PC game. By the 1990s PCs had VGA graphics, 486 processors and Sound Blaster sound card and were starting to really come into their own as game machines, but in the late 1980s they were pretty terrible for games, at least for fast-moving side-scrollers like Super Contra. The thing with PCs is that, while game consoles and many types of home computers had dedicated hardware for common gaming functions like moving sprites around and scrolling a background, the PC lacked all that and had to do everything on its main CPU. This meant that they struggled at things like platformers that comparatively weaker machines like the NES handled easily. However, as time went on PCs got faster and faster CPUs until by the 1990s they were able to duplicate the functions that the consoles' specialized hardware would perform. After that point, the possibilities for games on PCs pretty much exploded since they were already extremely capable machines in every other respect. The Super Contra PC port came out in 1990, but it looks like it was targetting older PCs instead of taking advantage of the capabilities of the latest hardware. I'm sure that if the game had come out a year or two later it would have been considerably improved.

221b Yeap i agree

Amiga version is even worse.

Albert Wesker I think you maybe right on that. Looking deeper into the Arcade release it may just be as you said, US versions being imported to Europe. With or without Konami's permission is hard to say though.

Are you sure? There had been a few posters and adverts for arcade Super Contra, with some of these referencing Konami Europe's address. Also, several official European magazines have given the arcade game their reviews. On a tangent, but if you are in Europe, have you come across any prototypes/betas of Contra or Probotector in your area? There might be some local flea markets/old-school video game stores. I'm actively trying to find these to back up and preserve their data.

+wrena79 ihe first one did but I'm not sure about this one.

+Retro Core yeah your right I'm pretty sure it was the first one actually - my mistake!

+photographboy that's why I use a rapid fire joy pad :) I hate hammering away at the buttons.

I know its late but still lol The M weapon is auto-fire, so just hold the button and you're fine. Also I think there are Game Genie codes you can use to always start with that gun if you want (gotta look it up).

Shit, games like these are WHY autofire controls were invented. And I can tell you the function is hella useful in emulators as the arthritis starts to creep in.

+NightSprinter I tried the Tandy modes but I didn't think it sounded better to be honest but that's just my opinion.

It was a port? Seemed like an all new, GameBoy specific version. A friggin' awesome Gameboy version, despite being only solo for obvious reasons.

@@jesuszamora6949 i originally thought it was a port but now i find its more like a remix since it feels alot like super c to me (although i havent played it in a while) and features lots of super c elements but its technically not a port

+Craig Wilson yeah, the Contra games are pretty tough going.

+xJeePx21 oh yes, I forgot about that. It's probably not going to be possible to run it though as a lot of Japanese phone games are impossible to find. I have two phones packed with amazing games however they are both locked down and can not be unlocked.

That and Gradius NEO Imperial are in my "Imposible to find" due to nobody having the.

Add away. Sometime I do see older comments 👍

Ah, the concept of the show is to cover Arcade to home ports. I plan on doing home console ports once I've exhausted all of the Arcade to home ports.

@Diskun That's just the SNES version with a timer

+Spyros Skam it's easy to see how you would be confused. I can imagine people going from the Amiga to the SNES where even more confused with the Probotector name :)

I don't understand your post. It looks like a flame post to me.

John Jameson Maybe you are right. But i focused on the hardware capabilities and not on the game itself so yes it could do better with that. We are talking about hardware 32 years old. It was great in my eyes back in the days and now it is just a sweet nostalgic retro computer if my childhood. Can i change the history?

Hehe, it is pretty awful.

stop calling OPL2 FM music “midi”

noop9k Better yet, he (along with every SNES fan on the planet) should stop calling ANY FM crafted music "MIDI"

No idea.

+João Ralha I remember Midnight resistance being pretty good on the Amiga. The funny thing is my memory is from when I was a kid, not from last year when I made the Midnight Resistance BOTP video :p I'll have to check that video out to see if I still though the Amig aversion was good. I do remember not being too happy with the Mega Drive port having none of the speech.

+Retro Core I found it - actually is 2 years old. No speech in that video... maybe you should remake it... Also you missed on thing on that game that only the amiga port has :-)

João Ralha wow, two years ago. That is an old video. I wonder what I could have missed out.

+Englebert3rd hahaha, it could do according to Game Sack :p

+Englebert3rd Nope, being British we prefer to calling it a "cake Hole"!!! An don't skimp on the T

Cake hole = mouth. I was thinking Cornhole = bum hole :p

If the C stood for Cornhole, the game would take place in Nebraska with Bill and Lance drinking beer playing said aforementioned yard game while awaiting Bar-B-Que. Might be fun, but nowhere near as much action...

C stands for Contra.

+Lyra 雷電ファン Ah, the Game Boy game is actually a different game. I looked in to that one as I thought it was a port of Super Contra but it turns out it's not.

Retro Core It is? I actually own the game for my Game Boy, and it starts similar to Super C. Maybe that's why I thought it was a port..

Lyra 雷電ファン yeah, I checked it out on a couple of sites. They all say it's an arranged game using bits from various Contra games or original ideas. It's nit a port for sure.

The ts just an emulation of the Arcade ROM isn't it?

Ture, but it features an enhanced graphics & remixed music.

Yeah... but... you... dont... need... to... type... like this... IS AWFUL!

The gameboy version is a completely different game. It just shares the same name.

I'm not sure that the Arcade version sucks but it is one of the rare cases when the home release is better.

+Kermit Rodriguez (LordKaicer) The Arcade game is really good to be honest but yeah, the Famicom version really does kick arse playability wise.

True but it's so bad it's funny.