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Today we discuss several problematic "revelations" by LDS prophets that succeeded Joseph Smith. These include:
- John Taylor's 1886 revelation on the continuation of polygamy.
- The multiple "manifestos" allegedly ending the practice of polygamy (but not really).
- The lifting of the 1978 priesthood and temple ban against Mormons of African descent.
- Changes to the LDS temple ceremony over the years.
- Russell M. Nelson's condemnation of the use of the "Mormon" identity after Gordon B. Hinckley and Thomas S. Monson's strong support of the "Mormon" identity.
- The 2015 LGBTQ Exclusion policy, and the subsequent 2019 reversal of the policy/doctrine.
- The Mark Hofmann forgeries.
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00:00:00 Intro & recap
00:04:00 Prophetic fallibility beyond Joseph Smith in Church History
00:11:15 Wendy Nelson accidentally explains how “revelation” really works
00:15:30 Hesitance from subsequent prophets to take on the title of “prophet”
00:23:40 John Taylor’s 1886 Revelation on Polygamy
00:30:30 Implications of John Taylor’s 1886 Revelation on Polygamy
00:35:00 The Lifting of the Priesthood Ban
00:39:00 How the Lifting of the Priesthood Ban Happened
00:46:15 Takeaways from the Lifting of the Priesthood Ban and Revelation
00:54:30 Masonry background
01:00:15 Implications of Changes to the Temple Ceremony
01:03:30 Russel M Nelson and the Use of ‘Mormon’
01:09:15 GBH vs Nelson clip
01:17:45 The Mormon Church’s “I’m a Mormon” Campaign
01:24:30 The “Meet the Mormons” campaign
01:32:00 The 2015 “Policy of Exclusion” for LGBT members and their kids
01:44:00 Clip-How Russel Nelson Described the 2015 on LGBT Members
01:51:45 Compare Nelson’s 2016 Statement to the 2019 Reversal
01:56:30 A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words…
02:05:00 Lack of Discernment Among Mormon Prophets, Seers, and Revelators
02:07:15 Joseph Smith & the Kinderhook Plates
02:10:15 The Mark Hofmann Forgeries
02:13:30 What the Hofmann Episode Tells Us About Discernment
02:19:45 A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words… Again
02:22:00 The Watering Down of Revelation
02:31:45 Fly Me to The Moon
02:34:00 This is Certainly Not Joseph Smith’s Idea of Revelation Anymore
02:36:15 Revisiting Wendy’s quote
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