Thanks for the feedback Andrew and glad to hear you are loving the display!

good point on the taking up a usb port, i didnt think about that. Thanks mate

There are almost always two types of people who watch these more high end and niche product reviews... People who are genuinely interested in purchasing the product, and people who are curious about what you get for the money but with no intention of buying. The former tend not to comment as often so the comments tend to present a bit of a distorted perspective. Value for money is also very subjective of course.

The comments about price are based on ......the price! 500 currencies is a lot for something a 30 quid phone could do wirelessly. I know Will states this in his review but let's be real. Will mentions a "niche" product and he's right. Most won't bother with this and others won't buy because it's silly money. This product (and others like it) creates the "niche". If we're talking the difference between a G29 and a DD1 then the differences are obvious to all who've owned both. But you can't tell me that a 500 quid screen will give 10 times better immersion than a 30 quid phone. Its not gonna happen. I have a 45 quid 7 inch screen I use for a secondary HUD. The only thing I don't have is a sparkly case for it. Does that mean the case is worth 400 quid? As an edit: I have nothing against people who really want to bring the track to the home. BUT my biggest beef with "niche" products like this is that the sum of the parts doesn't equal the high cost and drives potential buyers away.

@@sneakygloworm But this particular products competitors are much more "currencies". If you cant afford this product just admire it in the video and move along. Don't rag on the price because you personally wouldn't spend the money on it. And "the sum of the parts"...that's not how it works man. Do you think if i gutted a Fanatec DD1 and valued all of the parts it would equal the MSRP....Hell no it wouldn't.

@@Colin_Goes_Racing The sum of the parts in this case, is a screen (low def) and a case. Now tell me why it's 500 quid. If I feel people are being overly charged, I'll say my bit which means "ragging" on the price. If you want to pay this kind of money for a dash, go ahead. Also, a DD1 has been properly engineered, bespoke software, PCB, tuned, inputs, etc. Try setting up your own DD wheelbase and then watch in awe as it tears your thumbs off. This thing is mainly off the shelf kit. Also, this is one of the more expensive variants. Have a look. I have nothing against this product. It's just overpriced and I want to know why. Why is that difficult to understand?

@@sneakygloworm Maybe you need to understand a little about Marketing: before this dash was launched, there were (are) 2-3 products of similar characteristics already , ie. SimCore, Precision Engineering, and other that I dońt recall. These products are selling at about 500-600 USD, so that is what the market is willing to pay for these products (otherwise there will be no sales). So......Grid enters the Market, analyzes it, studies it and.......voilá, decides to go with the average price of the Market. As simple as that. Same for cars, for clothes, for perfumes and fragances, medicines, restaurants, you name it. Obviously, there will always be people-customers who will not buy certain products at a given price level, but that´s part of the market and it has always been that way. In modern and market orientes economies ( we can say capitalist) the cost to manufacture a product does not dictate the market price. Eventually, as more and more competitors enter the market, prices eventually will come down. And ¡a final note: people are not being over charged,...they wanted the product and decided the price is acceptable for them...8

Thank you Patrick!!!

Sim RetroRacer, we appreciate and value community feedback and will look into including this!

Acceptable, sure. But it’s important to point out to prospective buyers that an old smartphone they probably have laying around the house spare and could use to make a dash likely has far better image quality by comparison. That will be more important to some than others.

Lol, a decent graphics card (if you can find one) for similar price and a cheap phone can do this things job, though this does look nice but imo not worth that money.

@@2ndLastJedi absolutely!

Yep I can definitely see the merit in using an easily replaceable cable.

Hey Ken, both are nice units. Just comes down to using UGT software vs multiple options and rgb lights on ours. Plus the 4.3 vs 5”. Both are same resolution as well. Cheers.

Yeah it’s definitely not for everyone at this price, nor is it pretending to be. An old smartphone does just fine for most people :)

Hey Kiwi Canuck. We are looking at bringing in 90 degree cables in the near future. Cheers

Yeah as we showed in the video there are generic profiles that work with all cars, but the percentages can be fine tuned for each individual car to your taste, or to match what’s happening on the in game dash exactly if you which for it to do so.

Kalamabrew, Unfortunately, there are no better options for a higher resolution that run off a USB at this time. This is not a cost saving attempt on our end. If there was or in future is a better resolution option, the dash will have it :) The cost to manufacture these are not cheap. The board alone to power the screen is around $100 USD + screen cost + CNC enclosure + anodizing + custom glass + custom PCB inside etc etc. Also the R&D of course plus testing for months and tweaking. This has also been ran on a motion rig for quite some time before we listed them on our website. Hope this provides some better insight for you! Cheers

But will a new HD screen come at a 100 currency increase? This seems to be priced inline with other dash chassis and not aggressively pushing them out of the market as it should really be doing. I simply can't see why these things are so expensive. I can only assume it's due to the actual case. The internals and cables can be found on the web if people look hard enough and decide how it's going to be run. The software isn't bespoke. Its niche for the sake of it. Its good to have choices for these things but it's either pay a lot or pay a lot more....

@@sneakygloworm we are doing everything we can to bring a higher resolution display out in future and we certainly will not upcharge for this if component costs are the same. In fact, if a newer option is cheaper to manufacture, we would drop the price of the display. Cheers

@@gridengineering9814 Many Thanks. I appreciate your reply. It is a lovely looking peice of equipment (and i'll never take that aawy from you) but I simply cant understand why it is so expensive. I am not knocking the kit but the price seems remarkably high. It is to simply be priced inline with other dash screens? I take it that it has no proprietry software and works entirely from a pc using sim dashboard or sim hub, etc. I feel these screens should be a lower cost but the price is high, mainly because the case is bespoke?

I’m not sure what showing the inside would achieve in this case beyond quantifying my statements regarding build quality. No moving parts so not really susceptible to general wear and tear, so really the value proposition is purely down to external presentation, functionality and support, all of which were covered in the review. As I said right at the start of the video, there are far cheaper ways to achieve the same result from a standpoint of functionality. And I wanted to make sure that was abundantly clear so people who may be new to these products realise you don’t need to spend this kind of money to get the same experience, presentation aside. I don’t mean to sound dismissive, but I don’t really understand how the components used internally would be a factor in Determining if the customer is being “ripped off” as long as the build quality is of a standard expected at this price point (which it was). I guess we all look for different things to justify cost. Clearly for you, you want to see something you couldn’t build yourself for less, and I fully respect that. For me, I’d personally like to see a full suite of fully functioning and bug free profiles that have been tested by the manufacturer, or even perhaps a dedicated “Grid Engineering” build of Simhub with all the recommended profiles cooked in.

​@@boostedmedia Hey Will, really appreciate your response and feedback. First of all, I want to excuse the wording "ripp off" as it may indicate some kind of fraud or something similar. It is a fair point and I will take more care about my wording in the future. Sorry for that... As I said, the case looks great and the dashboard seems to work as expected. In general a of lot things can be done cheaper if you do it on your own and if you have the tools, knowledge and time to do so. Buying things out of the box is convenience to safe this effort and everyone needs to decide for his own if it is worth the money or not. But my actual point - and I think I missed to make it clear - was, that even though the case is really top notch, I am not sure if this only justifies the price. For me it is also important that the price it is sold for is "fair" compared to the costs to build it, including development and production (which I know is not cheap). Alternatively you may get some other benefits I would not be able to do on my own (as you mentioned, additional dash boards). And at this price point I think there could be a mismatch besides the build quality of the case. Bottom line, I think it is fair to have different opinions on this one, but I hope that my point is more understandable than it was before. And sorry again for the wording. I follow your channel for a long time and I didn't want to be offensive at all. You helped me a lot back in 2019 to decide which gear to buy and I still enjoy simracing and your videos.

No offence taken at all mate. :)

@@alpenmerlin Your original point is valid and also very important. I am not say these are a ripi off and transparency is valuable. There are many products that do use very cheap internals and are repackaged in flashy encloses. Heap of audio gear etc.... Value for your money is what I believe you were talking about. It can look the goods and fulfill the requirements it was made to do. How ever if it was built with $50 of the cheapest components then how do you feel. I agree that it should have been popped open. There would be no problem. It would also show total confidence in the product by the manufacturer and to Wills credit he did not have bring up the topic in his review. Unfortunately Will has opened many items in the past and made it a point of show the working inside. Rambling a bit now. Anyway you have a good point and its one shared by alot people that scratch their heads at the cost of some of this equipment on offer.

@@untrainedprofessionals2374 "Value for your money is what I believe you were talking about." That basically sums up what I was trying to say. Thanks.

That’s a good question. I have no idea. Sorry.

@@boostedmedia damn :D

I like the touchscreen on the simcore dash I have. Similar build quality and half the price. Compared to Simcore’s more expensive model with LEDs, I haven’t tested one personally but I would probably choose this because I prefer using Simhub to UGT.

You’ll just need to refresh the browser page after firing up Simhub and provided your PC running Simhub still has the same IP address it should just work.

In the case of this dash, as long as USBD480 is enabled in Simhub it will just work as soon as Simhub is opened and a dash is selected to output to USBD480.

@@boostedmedia Thanks, I hadn't watch the Z1 dash part when a I asked, which basically answered my question, sorry. Sounds the same as JRT, The JRT page just updates straight away when the software starts which i'm glad of, as I built the phone into an enclosure (fixed IP etc.) JRT functions better then anything ive tried so far, but its certainly not pretty, But i'm going to try out SimHub soon.

same here...also it seems that it is now a vocore display. I can't get it running as it supposed to be. The manual on the Website is completely useless....sorry but thats a nogo for that price.

I like the touchscreen on the Simcore one I have. I do like the LEDs on this though. Haven’t tried simcores UGT based one but I prefer Simhub to UGT generally. Quality wise, construction is similar. Simcore has some hand soldered connections internally whereas this is entirely wave soldered, not that that really matters.

I used to run a phone as a dash on my formula cockpit but admittedly I had the FOV adjusted a bit weird to make it work for me. This was back when I was on my FGT and single 55 screen.

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@@boostedmedia cheers were these meant to be in the description;)

lol the CSL DD with boost kit cost me cheaper than that crap...

I would like to see higher resolution for the money, but I’m not aware of any displays available currently that offer higher resolution and don’t require connection via a display cable rather than USB. The resolution is without a doubt the weak point for this product.

M S, unfortunately this is the current standard on the market. UGT, SimCore, PSE etc all run the same resolution. If the user has no spare HDMI or DP ports and wants a USB to power the display, this is the only option on the market in this size. We are working on something currently to address this but a lot of R&D is involved in making it happen to differ from other dash options on the market.

We haven't found a smartphone yet that does what our dash can.

@@gridengineering9814 yes sure i cant find a smart phone that does so much little as this thing does

​@@wow35master haha, you owned this quack!

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The manufacturer replied to another comment about that and apparently it's the highest resolution that can be driven by the usb? Or whatever runs it internally.