Review: MOD DWARF can revolutionize your setup, if you let it // vs ZOIA & Beebo // Tutorial

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How far can you take a Microfreak? How about splitting its two octaves into four instruments? I don't know another "multi-effect" pedal that can do that - here's a look at MOD Dwarf.
Get the ideas, tips and insights from this video and all my others in my ever-expanding book of electronic music ideas, tips and tricks here:
► Patreon: / loopop
Check prices:
► On Thomann (affiliate): www.thomann.de/gb/mod_devices...
► On their Reverb store (affiliate): reverb.grsm.io/Loopop?query=m...
► Direct from MOD Devices: bit.ly/MOD-Devices (not affiliate)
Other gear in the video:
► Empress ZOIA
► Poly Effects Beebo
► MicroFreak by Arturia
► Befaco VCMC - note the regular module needs to be modded to be powered by USB: www.befaco.org/vcmc-standalone/
Here's the pedalboard I created in this video:
► pedalboards.moddevices.com/pe...
NOTE: you need to install DEXED which is in BETA
To try out this OS on Raspberry PI check out:
► blokas.io/patchbox-os/
On the Zynthian platform
► zynthian.org/
Other places I hang out:
► Instagram: / loopopmusic
► Facebook: / loopopmusic
► Twitter: / loopopmusic
► Web: loopopmusic.com
My music:
► Bandcamp: loopop.bandcamp.com
► Spotify: bit.ly/LoopopOnSpotify
► Apple Music:bit.ly/LoopopOnAppleMusic
TIMELINE:
0:00 Intro
1:45 What is it?
2:50 Overview
5:40 Connectivity
6:45 This setup
7:30 Editing boards
8:45 Pedal chains
9:40 Mapping knobs
11:00 Presets
12:10 Pedal types
13:00 CV mapping
15:00 LFO example
17:05 Generators
20:30 MIDI FX
21:00 CPU Mgmt
21:55 Patch walkthru
24:15 Pedal store
25:34 Misc
26:10 Pros & cons
31:50 Outro
Submit review and video ideas here (sorry I don’t offer 1x1 sessions/setup/purchasing advice):
► Ziv (at) loopopmusic.com
NOTE: Occasionally I’ll try out affiliate marketing and include affiliate links. This means that I may earn a commission when you click on or make purchases via affiliate links. The content of this clip is entirely my opinion, and was not paid for or dictated in any way by the company creating the gear. Without addressing the particulars of products shown here as they might be under NDA, gear shown on this channel may be either sent by the manufacturer, on loan for review or bought at a discount.

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@southernmainesonicexperime3438 3 жыл бұрын

IMHO Loopop is the best gear review page on KZfaq right now.

@ickebins6948 3 жыл бұрын

You're right, as long as you can hold on to your wallet, before it runs of and buys alot of stuff :)

@vprice509 3 жыл бұрын

Watching loopop do stuff like this is the closest I will ever get to actually doing it myself.

@orpheuscreativeco9236 3 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I needed in my life this morning. Thank you for your amazing content ✌️🎶

@BingsBuddery 3 жыл бұрын

I'm digging these pedals that are attempting to dive deeper than just a cab and effects emulator.. The self-driven exploration is intriguing. Great review, thanks!

@rubaba7999 5 ай бұрын

You are so detailed and well structured in your review videos. Great job. 👏

@aeroprojects 3 жыл бұрын

GOSH ! This is future already ... thanks again loopop for all your really educative content.

@jonmy7 3 жыл бұрын

I was hearing "My Girlfriend" instead of "Microfreak". Made more sense when I figured it out but for a while I was really impressed with loopop's girlfriend's groove

@weeb0b 3 жыл бұрын

Haha same here, made me do a quick double take

@pthomas36 3 жыл бұрын

Given the wedding ring, that would have been a really boneheaded move. Not that his wife watches his content but you never know.

@s3nsec0rruptr80 3 жыл бұрын

@@pthomas36 hey I mean you never know what a couple's relationship is like, maybe they both have a girlfriend!

@iancain6647 3 жыл бұрын

I tried to hear it. I couldn't. But it's still kind of humorous.

@RufusRoss 2 жыл бұрын

Same here

@gmills5763 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent demo!!!

@ktreier 3 жыл бұрын

Great review as always.

@jesset3241 3 жыл бұрын

Woohoo! I've been waiting for this!

@Subtronik 3 жыл бұрын

I’m very impressed with this unit and really enjoyed you’re opening jam.

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@slowbass 3 жыл бұрын

Always great videos, Thanks man!

@MattGallagherBass 3 жыл бұрын

Great review - thank you. As for Mod Dwarf - wow - can't wait to get my hands on one!

@modaudio 3 жыл бұрын

We can't wait to watch some videos of what you create with your MOD Dwarf ;)

@georgesnouveau 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your work. So efficient ! We need that.

@igotadarkalley 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing review! Keep it up!

@Bod8998 3 жыл бұрын

As usual very thorough intros and outros very interested everything above my brain waves

@eduardoneves2670 3 жыл бұрын

The guys who give thumbs down to such a quaility and professionally made video + gorgeous sample song, are the really dwarfs!

@williamshaneblyth 3 жыл бұрын

You can see who they are then checkout their pages and if they look like trolls I block them

@hardtakeoff 3 жыл бұрын

I think actual short people would not like this. -A tall person

@musicalstatues73 3 жыл бұрын

😂

@pedroholy1 5 ай бұрын

your content is amazing, youve helped me so much already :)

@cymbolic_space1832 3 жыл бұрын

enjoyed that opening jam, and i think the edge would too 😁 will peep this in full later amigo. thx. 🤠🤙🏼

@entropybound 3 жыл бұрын

Very useful review. When the Kickstarter first appeared I found myself getting a pisound and raspberry pi 4, for which blokas’ free patchbox OS Linux distribution provided MODEP (the free version of MOD’s ecosystem, which you mentioned, but not by name), pure data, etc. So zero curation but a lot of raw functionality!

@audiblevideo 3 жыл бұрын

Did the same.

@lsf3og 3 жыл бұрын

Is it usable?

@AaronLevitz 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. The plugin selection just isn't as robust, out of the box.

@entropybound 3 жыл бұрын

But while a bit masochistic, it was fun trawling for plugins here and there. Very easy to build and install - I’m up to 450 by now, but obviously none of the fancier mod ones are available. I mainly wish there were more sophisticated midi sequencers easily available.

@watercolourmark 3 жыл бұрын

I have used the PiSound & MODEP setup, and it is very usable. Costs around £150 for a full setup, Rasp Pi, Pisound hat (Sound/MIDI ins & Outs) and case. And once setup you can have it boot in MODEP mode, so you have this sort of pedal setup for very little money running off USB power. I am thinking of getting a few of them, when you can looking for a simple one device effect unit or the odd drone sound very handy. And just patch and edit on with IP address on wifi browser.

@juanjoseperezalvarez8727 3 жыл бұрын

Great content! Thx loopop

@PaulvanEgmond Жыл бұрын

Just received my Dwarf, finally!! 🙂 First impressions: sturdy, excellent build quality, sounds awesome right out of the gate!

@rdomain Жыл бұрын

Did they make you pay extra to get what you had already paid for? I'm still waiting to receive mine and I was one of the original crowd funders. Worst experience I've had from a music company. Hopefully get mine one day.

@eternalvoid2678 3 жыл бұрын

These sort of boxes look great to me... on paper. Having to connect to a computer every time you want to move a virtual patch cable and having to flick through several pages of menus just to turn a knob would kill my creativity. Moreover, in some cases the lack of immediacy is a real issue. When a feedback loop spins out of control and you quickly need to adjust a few settings, there's no time to go through menus. Of course an external midi controller could help with that, but then you get the issue that you forget which knob is mapped to which setting. These things are great for set-and-forget use, but most of the time I just want to patch and tweak ;). That said, I can see the value for people with a different workflow. Awesome review!

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words and thoughtful comment!

@untml 3 жыл бұрын

for each his own but for me "easy" is not always equal to "creativity" i found the "harder" it is for me (and uncomfortable) it may takes me out of my comfort zone and i like the end result better. i feel more "connected to the machine" since i need to find workaround solutions (for days) and sometimes this is the essence of new idea's. i can understand whoever want's the smoothest way to make his ideas "out" but i for one don't really have an ideas in my brains - my ideas usually comes from the workflow :)

@modaudio 3 жыл бұрын

It's exactly to tackle this issue that "pedalboard blocks" are planned to come on a upcoming release :)

@nedogled 3 жыл бұрын

Extremely useful review! I was GASing for a MOD Dwarf, but now I realize the TC Plethora x5 suits my workflow much better.

@ShaighJosephson 3 жыл бұрын

Good point on gain staging... Have to do in this just like a large physical pedalboard...

@Krystof42 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice video about the Dwarf. Thanks for posting ! :-)

@_DRMR_ 3 жыл бұрын

Poly digit/beebo also uses the LV2 plugin format and I've started converting their mutable ports to MOD as well. It works, but a few things are needed. Most importantly: a nice looking UI that honors Mutable (any help is appreciated. find me on the forums :)) I'm also already working on a mixer that has pre/post-fade sends which certainly helps with building multi-instrument effects chains. (dsp is done, just needs .. UI) So, many improvements coming and indeed the firmware and most of the modules are completely opensource (you can also run a version of MOD from a usb stick on any computer!)

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

That would be great! Thanks for contributing to this. Can you send a link to somewhere showing a step by step process of running this off a USB stick? If your comment gets blocked because it's a link no worries I'll find it and approve it.

@_DRMR_ 3 жыл бұрын

@@loopop It's very much alpha software. However it's as simple as downloading the iso here: github.com/moddevices/mod-live-usb/releases Then flash it to a usb-stick and boot the computer from it. (x86_64 only, no M1 :P) Can possibly even run in a VM? (haven't tried. expect low performance)

@CannedApplauseBand 3 жыл бұрын

Now I'm even more hyped. I've backed the Kickstarter campaign. My main reason was to get a open source guitar pedal. But now that someone showed me the opportunities. OMG. It's going to be awesome.

@modaudio 3 жыл бұрын

We can't wait to watch some videos of the music you get out of your MOD Dwarf ;)

@thestuffmikedoes2309 2 жыл бұрын

Have you received your unit yet?

@CannedApplauseBand 2 жыл бұрын

@@thestuffmikedoes2309 no. MOD Device has some troubles because of Corona (it's a minor pandemie. Don't know if you noticed :)) and they asked the crowdfunding backers if they could wait. And I can. It's nothing rushing me to get my hands on it (also in the last month I had so little time for making music)

@robertvangameren9735 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks again!, getting more curious about the voice behing all these amazing vids. Would like to see a 'review' of you Ziv, would be great to finally see a face and get to know about your workflow, making the vids, what makes you tick and click:)

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! To see my face in action check out my interview with Suzanne Cianni on this channel. What makes me tick is MIDI clock for digital or analog sync ;) Not to pitch the book but there's instrument exploration workflow walkthru there...

@jameswooster4250 3 жыл бұрын

It sounds really clean.

@steveleeatfullmeasure 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent! Thanks

@PotatoKing1253 3 жыл бұрын

I love your moog playing it helps allot (sorry I mean mod dwarf)

@ywenp 3 жыл бұрын

One comparison that could be interesting too is with the Zynthian, which does support MOD UI too :) (as well as regular LV2 plugins) And also the Axoloti which is a tad more DIY but still easy to program, at least when compared to PureData (and waaaaaaay cheaper than Zoia, MOD and everything).

@NeilNappe 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video

@JeremyForTheWin 3 жыл бұрын

some real Alan Parsons vibes in the intro

@zdravkodimitrov 3 жыл бұрын

Video idea - can you please do a review of MOTU Ultralite mk5? Both as an interface and as a digital mixer. 8 line ins, digital ins, MIDI on full ports, 10 DC coupled line out, phone/tablet controls, effects - sounds perfect for Eurorack or DAWless setups.

@surrealchemist 3 жыл бұрын

I ended up with a Beebo and don't plan on getting another device like this any time soon, but its nice to see some competition in this space.

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

For sure

@anthonythyer4018 2 жыл бұрын

Hi I have a Mod Dwarf and wish to use it as a recording Guitarist so I don't have to break out my live rig. your video is amazingly comprehensive however I'm still digging down looking at connecting a Roland EV30 through a EX2M adaptor to the Mods USB port to work as an assignable expression pedal? Any help greatly appreciated. Love your video

@_DRMR_ Жыл бұрын

The EX2M should work fine, it's a USB-MIDI device which you could then map to parameters inside the patch.

@ropewalkingelephant 3 жыл бұрын

That web interface is beautiful

@Stadsjaap 3 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for these interfaces to get into VR...

@Mescaline82 3 жыл бұрын

One Pedal to rule them all !

@SyntheticFuture 3 жыл бұрын

Man I want a company to put the "freak" style keys on top of traditional keys :x Having that x-y modulation on top of normal keys would be INSANE.

@roryjineffect 3 жыл бұрын

Arturia, are you listening?

@kinnectar820 3 жыл бұрын

There is no x/y modulation on microfreak, it is just "pressure" by way of how much of your finger touches the key. For true x/y modulation on a keyboard formfactor there is the K-Board by Keith McMillan which is more like the microfreak with no z motion only actual pressure, and the upcoming Osmose from Expressive E which does have real moving keys, the full MPE X/Y/Z parameter set and the extremely deep Eaganmatrix synth engine under the hood.

@PaulvanEgmond 3 жыл бұрын

I reserved a MOD Dwarf on IndieGogo and have yet to receive it, so seeing this review kinda helps my confidence that it will arrive someday. Looks and sounds like it will have been worth the wait.

@AbyssalPantheon 3 жыл бұрын

Check out the forums on mod’s website. I guess they made a decision to allow for new orders to ship with the preorders (I didn’t spend much time looking at the details) but that is mostly for cash liquidity so they can continue to focus on development and support without being reliant on outside parties. They are indeed coming though!

@PaulvanEgmond 3 жыл бұрын

@@AbyssalPantheon Thanks, I'm aware of it. I've opted for further delay of my delivery in exchange for perks. I've got a feeling they have a hit on their hands, and wish them all the luck they need.

@AbyssalPantheon 3 жыл бұрын

@@PaulvanEgmond heck yeah, best of luck to you and I hope they are quick about getting it out to you!

@PaulvanEgmond Жыл бұрын

@@AbyssalPantheon Thanks man! In the mean time the company has gone under but a restart is currently underway. Still waiting for my device but I remain optimistic ;-)

@BeniRoseMusic 3 жыл бұрын

What is that little case the VCMC is chilling in? I can't tell if it's battery powered or if the VCMC can simply be powered by the USB input.

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

it's a 3d printed one, no power

@hovermotion 3 жыл бұрын

Superb......

@miketucker335 2 жыл бұрын

Great review!! Did you ever finish the book?

@loopop 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! No and I don't think I will any time soon... updates published regularly on Patreon

@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene 3 жыл бұрын

I think I will wait for the 1010Music version that does NOT need a computer, It will have a great GUI touch interface screen and control with lots of inputs and outputs to be used in my effects loop (aux loop) of my mixer (no there is not one coming, but if 1010Music did design another "box" for effects it would be fantastic, no doubt). As soon as you reported the need for a computer to program this hardware I was out. The trouble with hardware linked to computers is eventually the computer hardware/software/OS moves on and the old hardware become a landfill item. Just like my Tascam interface/MIDI CC controller I purchased for WindowsXP...it was NOT supported in Windows7. Stand alone hardware is a beautiful thing, but as soon as the manufacturer says "editor available" I get scared and if "editor needed" then NO WAY!! Thank you for another best- in- the-business review loopop!!!

@james2749 3 жыл бұрын

That is the exact reason why they do not use an app to program it. You access the device directly through a web browser by connecting to it's ip (no internet required) this means that the the hardware will always be usable as long as you can connect it to a browser with no need for their developers to keep maintaining it

@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene 3 жыл бұрын

@@james2749 A web browser is an app, it decodes HTML/CSS and Javascript and PHP. Browsers are updated all the time, and must be compatible with computer hardware/OS. Plus if USB becomes an obsolete standard, then you still end up with a brick if the Dwarf is not firmware updated, or there isn't a physical cable conversion. IF you want disposable devices, any computer link will make it obsolete.

@james2749 3 жыл бұрын

@@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene sure, but they are already working on an pedalboard creator on the device which I'm pretty sure will be there long before USB or web browsers become obsolete 😂

@heinerkruseprivat1121 2 жыл бұрын

does it have some granular Fx Options?

@Pulse2AM 3 жыл бұрын

That outro was great, like The Who meets U2 Joshua Tree!

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@dewberry3043 18 күн бұрын

Bro is your patch in the video available in the mod pedalboard? Plan to use it on my guitar. Maybe I can modify it for guitar,

@dewberry3043 18 күн бұрын

Looks like I saw the link for the pedalboard in your description. But let me know if you have advice on how I can use this on guitar.

@kisho2679 3 жыл бұрын

can it create those evolving rythmic/groovy effects like the "REmindER" (by Enjoy Electronics)?

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

currently no but if someone programs a module like that, potentially yes

@HenningSprang 3 жыл бұрын

One question: as far as I understand, the USB Host port can not be used to add an audio interface, which might be interesting for some things - e.g. a drum machine with seperated outputs... and, well, another one: is there a module to record stuff(audio as well as midi) onto internal or external(USB) storage? And as two is just too small of a number: do you know about the "hackability" of the device? So can I, if I want, as a software developer, use the sources and modify them and put modified binaries (eg a Kernel with audio drivers for an external interface ;) ) on the system, or is there some kind of hard to circumvent protection against that?

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

All of those are great questions for the company (I don't know about the audio interface, I didn't go over all 700 modules, and I didn't explore the source as if I could...) - if you email them and get an answer please copy-paste here!

@modaudio 3 жыл бұрын

On your first question, there are some hacks to allow it and more is being tested/tried on that (join our forum and you will get more info). On the second one: there are not yet modules for that internally, but with the file handling feature being a novelty, sooner or later those plugins will appear. Last question: the device is pretty hackable and we love users that like to experiment with that sort of things and help us improving the devices ;)

@AbyssalPantheon 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Ziv, Watched this a few times and decided to place my order through reverb. I was wondering if you put the sweet arpeggiator pedal board up on the store for us to try out? Thanks!

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

Sure! I just shared it (link in description) - note that you need to use DEXED which is in beta

@AbyssalPantheon 3 жыл бұрын

@@loopop you’re a champion! Thanks so much!

@chuckvicious 3 жыл бұрын

I think you just apeggiated* yourself in to the Guinness book of world records.

@karllongden4011 2 жыл бұрын

can you use an ipad tablet to program the Mod Dwarf

@smalekas7354 3 жыл бұрын

do you have any ressources on the raspberry trick ? i would be interested

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

See description

@smalekas7354 3 жыл бұрын

@@loopop thank you!

@MDugardin 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, thankx for the vid, ok, that's too much parameters for my guitarist iQ. But seriously, u cannot save settings without the pc ? so, i can't use it as a guitar player.

@deanlopez1978 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome 👍

@mathieupe666 3 жыл бұрын

Impressive little swiss-army-knife type box

@pongtrometer 3 жыл бұрын

Have you done an overview of ‘ Electrosmith Petal ‘ daisy pedal

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

Not yet

@fattwin9308 3 жыл бұрын

From the Kickstarter page: " Yes, the MOD Dwarf works as an audio interface.[..] The audio-over-USB function allows you to route your signal with or without processing it by your patches, as well as to manage physical and virtual I/O. "

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

It does not show up as an interface on my computer and there's no reference in the settings or online manual that a feature like that exists. Show me how to activate it and I'm happy to pin a comment with a correction.

@modaudio 3 жыл бұрын

@@fattwin9308 Not really in the 1.11 yet, but soon :)

@SwiftDreamer 3 жыл бұрын

So the mod DWARF is a more compact version of the Duo and DuoX, or is it the other way around?

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

See full comparison in the pros and cons section of the video

@SwiftDreamer 3 жыл бұрын

@@loopop thanks! half way through the vid

@CTBlaze 2 жыл бұрын

How do you power that VCMC, and where did you get the enclosure, please?

@loopop 2 жыл бұрын

there's a physical change you need to make to power it via USB and I got the enclosure from Befaco

@CTBlaze 2 жыл бұрын

@@loopop yeah I found it after I asked here, but out of stock, both the mod and enclosure

@CTBlaze 2 жыл бұрын

@@loopop do you know of anything similary compact?

@loopop 2 жыл бұрын

@@CTBlaze no unfortunately

@SwiftDreamer 3 жыл бұрын

Can someone tell me more about trying out the software Mod Dwaft uses on a raspberry pi?

@danielbluez 3 жыл бұрын

Check blokas.io/patchbox-os/ then zynthian.org/ I've tested both then bought a mod dwarf.

@SwiftDreamer 3 жыл бұрын

@@danielbluez thank you 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

@kisho2679 3 жыл бұрын

so it can be used as a multitrack sampler/looper (recording & mixing audio tracks)?

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

If the question is can you use multiple loopers and launch samples and loops the answer is yet. I would use this as a place to record and and mix tracks though - meaning as a linear timeline

@kisho2679 3 жыл бұрын

@@loopop the question is if it can record and store audio samples inside this box itself, and later playback those over serveral tracks that can be mixed to the one output. if so, how many tracks of audio loops does it support?

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't test its limits that way - I recommend you email the company to make sure it does what you need, and would love if you could share your response here!

@modaudio 3 жыл бұрын

@@kisho2679 You can't yet record inside the device (simply because there are no plugins available at this moment for that), but you can store and reproduce audio and MIDI files inside. The file handling feature is pretty new, so there are not yet a lot of plugins taking advantage of that (that's why there are no recording plugins yet), but that will start being populated over time.

@MSNGR415 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been waiting for someone to do a comparison between the mod duo and the zoia and I was hoping it would be you.

@gustavosaliola 3 жыл бұрын

I'm Sorry. Couldn't focus on the review. That first jam took me immediately to an opening credits sequence like "Drive" or a closing one like "Heat". +1 to release this as a full track. Thanks!

@fakshen1973 3 жыл бұрын

Shoegaze is about to get interesting again.

@AleX-qu9ce 2 жыл бұрын

do you still have to connect the dwarf to an audio interface?

@loopop 2 жыл бұрын

when was that necessary?

@macaronafterparty 3 жыл бұрын

What waveform is that sound at 11:00?

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly Noise Engineering's osc

@lukaswa2639 3 жыл бұрын

Tbh with the Kickstarter campaign for the MOD dwarf the price point of ca. 250€ instead of 500€ plus for other devices like Empress Zoia was a advantage. I'm still waiting for it though. But same things for half the price with an estimated waiting time for 9/10 months was a key fact for me back then in April 2020 (maybe Modeselektor used it in their live sets as well and I was pumped..).

@rdomain Жыл бұрын

Are you still waiting for yours? I'm one of the original crowd funders and I still haven't received mine. Terrible company ethics imho to burn the people that helped fund the project.

@ChrisBrooker 3 жыл бұрын

I’m surprised that you didn’t mention anything about being able to port over Max patches to it. Seemed like a real game changer to me. Id love to see someone do it too. I wonder about the cpu usage that it takes to run those patches.

@modaudio 3 жыл бұрын

The CPU usages always depend on what's going on in your patch/pedalboard/setup

@_DRMR_ 2 жыл бұрын

You can also port Pure Data patches (pd-vanilla with most of the objects) to plugins, lv2 + vst2, using Heavy/HVCC as well (get the Wasted-Audio branch for this).

@ChrisBrooker 2 жыл бұрын

@@_DRMR_ oh rad!

@Gigosula 3 жыл бұрын

Probably not a best place to ask, but i would love you doing Access Virus TI deep analysis!

@Mundproductionfunkhaus 3 жыл бұрын

what is that MIDI controller I see on the right

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

Befaco VCMC

@Mundproductionfunkhaus 3 жыл бұрын

@@loopop thank you for the prompt reply, love your thorough presentations; you da Man

@statrax 3 жыл бұрын

How can i join the cv party ?!

@ibisum 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, why you no Zynthian! (You missed one.) Great review! BTW, Zynthian has MOD DWARF onboard too ..

@watercolourmark 3 жыл бұрын

I had a Zynthian, but for me the PiSound setup was easier and cheaper - not that the Zynthian is too hard or too expensive.

@rafaelikenaga 3 жыл бұрын

does it have quantize looping?

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't see that (it may, I didn't look for it) but it does have a MIDI effect that's a time-quantizer, so I guess you could make it happen that way but I've not tried

@modaudio 3 жыл бұрын

It is not yet available, but a new Loop plugin (Looperlative) will bring those features. The plugin it's mostly ready on the developer side and it's just waiting for some features on the MOD OS that are being tested.

@Claidheambmor 3 жыл бұрын

'It's cold outside, there's no kind of atmosphere...'

@blindcanseemusic 2 жыл бұрын

Can it turn guitar notes into midi? Ie analog signal.

@loopop 2 жыл бұрын

@MikolaiStroinski 3 жыл бұрын

Pedal fx have an advantage of sounding three dimensional comparing to plugins. Does this one sound great in your opinion?

@robbybobbyhobbies 3 жыл бұрын

Almost like skeuomorphic design was never rejected :). I've got a PiSound with the Blokas Linux and enjoy playing with this, but as a nerd (not a musician) I find the interface gets in the way rather than enhances the experience. So much screen space is needed to do anything interesting. Also annoying is the time taken to work out how things work - different pedals work in different ways. Currently much prefer Zoia, but I'm going to dust off the Raspberry and rewatch this video whilst playing along.

@AaronLevitz 3 жыл бұрын

If "anything interesting" is "building your pedalboard", that's true. If it's "using your pedalboard to create music", you don't need any screen space at all. That's kind of the whole point.

@robbybobbyhobbies 3 жыл бұрын

@@AaronLevitz equal parts for me, but absolutely the interface gets nicely out of the way for performance :)

@modaudio 3 жыл бұрын

Basically, the interface is thought of in a way that a conventional pedalboard works. That's exactly why we call it pedalboards :) If you are familiar with a normal effects pedal setup, the MOD WebGUI is in every way a graphical representation of that. Then you have the CV plugins that "spice" a bit things with logical operations that you can use on the effects/plugins. Anyway, we want to say that we are paying attention to your feedback :)

@robbybobbyhobbies 3 жыл бұрын

@@modaudio appreciate you getting back to me. Quality.

@modaudio 3 жыл бұрын

@@robbybobbyhobbies You're welcome. Let us know if we can answer any other question :)

@bestsample3744 3 жыл бұрын

Ever plan to review the Beebo??

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

yes hopefully later in the summer

@vprice509 3 жыл бұрын

Cool device for live players.

@VirtualModular 3 жыл бұрын

Quite interested in this. But, if you need a laptop to patch it just use VCV on the laptop instead! Much easier to modulate stuff, plus there's 2000+ modules (quite a few of which are direct Eurorack ports with identical sound and functionality). Also free! This looks a total pain to use, having to make inputs/outputs discoverable first for CV. ...just why? I suppose it's better for live use, and less to worry about with PC specs/interfaces etc. But unless the effects are absolutely stunning and not available using anything else, I'll just stick to a computer running VCV and VST plugins.

@fh404 3 жыл бұрын

Well if you play live shows usually you'll have the effects and patches prepared beforehand and this pedal can run them headless w/o a laptop on stage.

@VirtualModular 3 жыл бұрын

@@fh404 yeah that's a fair point. I don't play live, but if I did I'm not sure I'd buy one of these because the editing looks a total pain.

@modaudio 3 жыл бұрын

In one of the upcoming releases, you will be able to create pedalboards from the device.

@cresshead 3 жыл бұрын

price: £375,00 Available on backorder

@bryantwalley 3 жыл бұрын

I love the concept they have, but all of their prices are over where it seems they should be. Not sure if that is because of sourcing or manufacturing issues or what, but it seems that something is just not adding up. If this thing had some VCV integration (unless I missed something) I could see going the full $499. Seems like that would be doable.

@modaudio 3 жыл бұрын

It is probably hard to find a device in the market so versatile, with so many plugins (and always receiving new ones), with so many features, and overall constantly growing for the same price tag as the MOD devices.

@_DRMR_ 2 жыл бұрын

What do you mean with "VCV integration" ?

@bryantwalley 2 жыл бұрын

@@_DRMR_ VCV is a software that has many open source modules available. The way this unit is designed it seems as though being able to add those would make it more appealing.

@_DRMR_ 2 жыл бұрын

@@bryantwalley I know what VCV is, but what does that have to do with "integration" ? VCV has its own internal module and processing format. Also the CV-ports work completely different. Porting modules from VCV would be a considerable effort that is not appealing to any developer at all, so unlikely to happen :P

@bryantwalley 2 жыл бұрын

@@_DRMR_ not sure it even matters at this point.

@bengarland 3 жыл бұрын

Any opinion of how the individual fx quality compares to an Eventide H9? That's still my benchmark for digital effects pedals. All these new fx units seem incredible (MOD, Zoia, etc) , but I always feel like they don't have enough I/O compared to what they're capable of doing. These MOD devices really need 4 IN, 4 OUT, 4 CV minijacks (assignable as in or out), 2 MIDI In, 2 MIDI Out, and 2 EXP jacks... minimum. I'd get frustrated by having any less I/O on such a powerful device if I can't really route very much audio or control signals in and out of the unit. A version with this much I/O (or more) would be worth a $100 premium to me. It probably needs TR(S) inputs since it's a "guitar pedal", but other I/O could be all minijack -- 1010 Blackbox has a lot of I/O in a small form factor and the premium minijacks really click and hold cables super solidly. It's also not clear whether you can control the parameters of the MOD fx/modules in real time using MIDI CC on an external control surface. You quickly click on a MIDI option at 10:06, which looks like it's some sort of "MIDI Learn" for CC (hopefully it is?). MOD makes no mention of CC on their wiki -- they barely mention MIDI at all, so it's really unclear what it can and can't do with MIDI signals. If it's missing the ability to map CC, it's a real shame and seems like it would hobble it for live use. (I watched most of the video and never saw you touch the Befaco MIDI controller -- so I'm unclear why it was connected. Can you explain?) Props to them for keeping everything open source. I'll definitely be following this platform to see where it goes. It's impressive for a version 1.0

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

I think the advantage of H9 is that it's a bunch of finely tuned effects as opposed to isolated individual effects, so I didn't try to isolate and compare individually. H9 sounds great and you can get this to sound great too if you finely tune a patch. Yes it has MIDI learn - I thought it was clear due to the VCMC MIDI controller on the right and me mentioning it in the setup, but I guess I could have actually mapped one parameter to prove it...

@kevinlindley2642 3 жыл бұрын

The lack of CV in and out ports seems to be a huge design flaw and limitation. Adding 4 CV ins and outs would have made this amazing.

@AbyssalPantheon 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that is a miss for us synth people. I have a CV.OCD from six4pix that is a really customizable midi to CV converter with 4 CV outs and 12 gates. It’s an absolute powerhouse in my set up. I’d recommend it if you are still interested in this unit. I ordered a mod dwarf this morning, I’ll make sure to test it out. I’m hoping this has enough for effects that I can sell off my pedals and save some desk space.

@kevinlindley2642 3 жыл бұрын

@@AbyssalPantheon Thanks for the heads up about the CV.OCD, 4 CV Outs is brilliant, I'm hovering over the buy now button at Thonk :-) Would love to know how you get on with the MOD Dwarf and if the CV.OCD fills the gap for us Synth people. If the CV.OCD works then it brings the MOD Dwarf back in as a possibility, everything else I really like about it and the fact that its supporting the community is a big plus. I'm still on the Zoom Pedals at the moment, so cheap :-)

@AbyssalPantheon 3 жыл бұрын

@@kevinlindley2642 will do! The CV.OCD is amazing with my polyend tracker to power my semi modular stuff, so I have a feeling it will be just as nice with the MOD Dwarf.

@modaudio 3 жыл бұрын

The MOD DuoX has CV in and CV out ports ;)

@_DRMR_ 2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinlindley2642 Why wouldn't the cv.ocd work? it takes midi-in, so you're done. Of course cv-resolution wouldn't be as good as when you have full cv control, but I'm also planning to use the MOD gear with my cv.ocd to add some extra integration.

@RubenSainiuc 3 жыл бұрын

8:31 I looked to the right trying to figure out how the mosquito got in my room.

@bleighhh 27 күн бұрын

It would be nice to have something like this with multiple ins and multiplue out

@bleighhh 27 күн бұрын

(And fx assigniblae to each out)

@dolvaran 3 жыл бұрын

I think you can do a lot of this with a Zynthian also.

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

Zynthian contains the open source version of this (plus other instruments) - which only includes the open source plugins, and doesn't include access to the pedalboards community, and fewer hardware controls. It's still a great way to try this system out.

@Stadsjaap 3 жыл бұрын

Those pedals onscreen look like they can plug straight into each other with no wiring necessary...

@yourfriendasmund1073 3 жыл бұрын

This is basically similar to having some midi FX apps and audio Effect Auv3 units in audiobus 3 and AUM?

@loopop 3 жыл бұрын

yes, as I mention in the end an iPad or DAW and a MIDI controller and audio interface can do the same things (on an iPad - assuming it all doesn't crash working together...)

@yourfriendasmund1073 3 жыл бұрын

@@loopop ah I missed that! I watched the video even if I was not curious about a new gear hehe.You halped me get lots of stuff, and If I ever need to use ableton I know where to go! Thanks for fish