Totally true!!!

Yeah for real

In titanic they are sweet but in this movie they always fights seems toxic

@@femaleg4l546 there's nothing worse than being in a relationship where deep down you know it's utterly flawed and doomed. Trying to cling to it is a horror show in the making

And in both movies the character Kate Winslet played was a B____

It's actually horrible.... You can her her posh British right in it. Not a bad thing just makes her words and emotions unbelievable because she has trouble with American tone. There is no really grit in her voice when she tries American accents. Idk wtf you're hearing lol.

I thought she was terrible here.

@@cmdjk1She struggles using an American accent, but she has improved with it tremendously

@@tmm4195 Yeah she definitely struggled with the accent. But to be fair I’ve not watched this movie nor much of her other stuff.

⁠@@cmdjk1where’s the parts she struggled huh?

Oh my word. I was so into the discussion I didn’t even realize it was those two until I saw this comment. 😂😂

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂you killed me

WOW TRULY SO SURPRISING

hahahahahaah

Omg😂😂😂😂

Titanic = teen fantasy. RR = a little over the top but way more realistic.

this would’ve been jack and rose 20 years after titanic, if jack had survived 🤣

@@MC32595 lol

​@@MC32595 not true that would've been so out of Character for a guy like Jack.

@@MC32595 Are you 5 years old? This is called ACTING. Stop comparing these two to Jack & Rose. It's so beyond it. Kate & Leo are very dear friends and have such CHEMISTRY on screen, playing happy roles or traumatic ones. They understand and know each other's ways of acting/working. This is a masterpiece.

This. She was willing to compromise and have the child as long as they could move to Paris but he wouldn’t budge and I felt so bad for her. She was trapped.

Yes, exactly. It didn’t have to do with the child, it had to do with that would mean for their future. She was desperate and ready to get out of her current life and the pregnancy just threw a wrench on that plan. People are unnecessarily conflating this with her not being grateful or not wanting to be a mother.

So the ultimatum of we move to Paris, or I abort our child….because I’m so miserable with the monotony of suburbia? What is going to be different in Paris? Frank will have to work, she will have three children to care for. Culture? She’s a train ride away from NYC, with all the museums and diversity of cultures there are. April would still be April in Paris….with all her mental health issues….

I could totally relate to this point! This is exactly what Kate's character is going through.

Murdering people who get in the way of your “fulfillment” seems to be perfectly acceptable these days.

​@Tyler J Abortion wasn't even mentioned in their comment, so I'm not sure why you felt the need to entirely dismiss their words in order to interject your thoughts on abortion, rather than respond to what was written.

@Tyler J Lmfao they don’t even know they exist. Stop reaching

if she wants to move to paris and he doesn't its not his fault , you're a woman that's why you're seeing from her POV , why would a man abandon his well paid promotion in a job and rather shift to a whole new country where the man is unsure about the financial security of their family , even though if the wife can work and provide for her family on her own , it wouldn't be fit for the man to just sit at home

@Abhi Daddy Who says he has to sit at home while in Paris? He is free to find other work and/or other activities. I don't know if you watched the beginning of the movie, but he was miserable as hell. He felt unfulfilled and disappointed in the man he had become. His wife could see that he was miserable... that they were both miserable. If her husband was enjoying his life, she would be less likely to suggest a change. If you're unhappy, then do something about it, I think, is her point.

@@abhidaddy384 Did you even see the film? He wasn’t happy either. He also agreed to go to Paris before his promotion. Once he found a way to make HIS life better, he disregarded what would make HER life better. A marriage is a partnership and he refused to compromise. Her tried to make her feel bad for wanting more for her life besides motherhood. Motherhood is not a goal for all women and it certainly wasn’t the only goal for her.

I know I'm replying a year later, but to conclude your quip, I'd be drunk to death by now 😅😂

That's how you end up in the hospital lmao

But then again, contradicting to other comments here, April wasn't selfish. She did her best to make the family happy and have a better future by giving his husband a proposal that she knew could change their marriage. Sad thing, the husband chose to listen to other people and accepted the promotion compromising her wife's happiness.

Why would you hate her character anyway, you moron. She feels trapped and is suffocating from her life. She doesn’t need anymore justification.

We all go through traumatic things, it’s part of life. Us a a parents go through the trauma of having children as a sacrifice for them to have a chance at life. The innocent lives of babies shouldn’t pay for the mistakes we make as adults. She said herself, she made a mistake. She’s should be the only one to have to live with the consequences of the mistake. I personally feel I made the mistake of having my son too soon, but I would NEVER make him pay for my mistake. I will take everything out of myself & give it to him because that’s what his innocent soul deserves. I made the mistake, so I’ll be the only one to suffer, thank you very much. The dude in this video is right, no loving mother with a stable head on her shoulders would even consider for a second killing their own child on the off chance of living out and unrealistic fantasy. None of us would be here today if it weren’t for the sacrifices of our parents, & their parents, & so on. I have no respect for those who know they aren’t ready for a kid yet choose to have sex anyways. You cannot think you are responsible to engage in the risky act of intercourse, yet not take responsibility for the risky consequences.

So you're a selfish narcissist? You're exactly the same as she is. You don't value your child at all.

@@szarahsshow5321 well said

Finally someone said it! I loved the way movie represents the psyche of the people who lived in that era but hated the characters they represented - so traditional, so self - repressed, most of them always trying to be so nice, that it is so horrible for them when someone finally says the truth about how miserable they are.

Grass is always greener on the other side.

@@JaiD0427 lol that’s definitely not the moral of the movie

@@xxxmochibaby 🤣🤣

I've been to Paris. Trust me when I say she ain't missing anything and where she lives is so much better than Paris right now.

@@amunra4015 that’s not for you to decide lol

My husband tells me this all the time 😂

Haha depends. Sometimes we need someone to tell us this

'leo

@@generalsheperd5864 both

She DID win the Oscar that year, but for a different movie.

TO ALL TEENAGERS LISTENING. DO NOT GET AN ABORTION. IT'S MURDER OF YOUR OWN FLESH AND BLOOD.

@@bunkyd Praying for you. This is the reason for your mental health problems. Make no mistake about it. You cannot kill babies unrepentantly and live a healthy life. Please pray to mother Mary to intercede on your behalf. She will pray for you and make sure Jesus saves you from the devil. God bless!

How about telling the teenagers to wear protection or not have sex at all until they’re old enough or married it’s not that hard

@@whitepaws1338 they should abstain until they want children. Sex is not only about pleasure. It's main purposes are obviously reproduction and bonding with your spouse.

@@whitepaws1338 Because they're kids and kids make stupid mistakes more often than you'd think. Not only that, they're just gonna wanna do it more if you tell them NOT to

"&then."🤭👍😎

I don't think there is

Nah. He is too deep in self deception at this point. No way to get him to say what he realy feels.

Frank so immediately dismisses April's proposal that they continue the move to France and she gives birth there. That in itself was a compromise.

​​@@cherylhulting1301prooting his career and risking financial security to move to France is not a middle ground LMAO 😂 I cannot with some of these delusional chicks in the comments who clearly just want to blame the man in the relationship for everything 😂

@@cherylhulting1301That was not a compromise. A compromise would be figuring out what she thought Paris could give her and trying to recreate some of that. A change of place, a change of scenery, perhaps a trip to Paris, and some more support with the family so she can pursue a passion project, etc. Her entire life is being a mother, and while that’s a beautiful endeavour, she’s lost herself.

Omg, that made me cry

She didn’t just lose her love but she lost her freedom that’s what she’s mourning the most in that scene. But yes heartbreaking

Lmao that is so inaccurate

the fact that she was going to kill their child without telling him is sickening and repulsive to think of

That’s not the thing at all

@@garnachowoodutd I feel like you’re missing the bigger issue

Divorce him

This is why choice is a big deal

Not really. Plenty of people still find her despicable and a sorry excuse for a wife and mother.

This is a movie and not what you take seriously learn to understand reality from make believe

So true.

Having had a baby, let alone several-drives home the fact she IS a sorry excuse of a person to go after her own baby.

But why did she has daughter, if she didnt want to have daughter. That does not make sence.

@@jout738 Because back then, women didn’t really have that much of a choice. It was expected. Women *HAD* to settle down and pop out a bunch of babies, and be subservient to their husbands.

My wife said having children was one of the best things she ever decided to do. Now she has two sons that love her.

@@tcb6857 I’m sure you are a way better husband then Leo

Then don’t get pregnant ?

Abortion being illegal never stopped it, that’s why. It just made it more dangerous back then.

​@@AlastorsShadowDemon a smart person would not try to do something so dangerous, a smart person would have avoided getting pregnant or just sucked it up and had the kid

@@onamattapeeya Sucking it up and having a kid you don’t want isn’t smart. That’s how kids end up with abusive parents and living in a home where their parents hate each other…if they even stay together. Being smart would have been telling her husband to kiss her ass, then going to get a safely done abortion.

@@onamattapeeya she is acting out of desperation. A "smart" person would have the ability to empathize with that. They didn't have the same contraceptives at this time that we have today. A smart man wouldn't have cum inside her.

@@jillmayer9501 okay I actually agree with that hundred percent, smart guy would have pulled out

It's immoral to murder a child. Abortion is literally the termination of a human in the womb. It's sick. Repent of your sins. Believe the gospel.

You go girl. Don't let men ☕ decide your life. It's "your" life... Embrace it!!

@@generalsheperd5864 Forcing woman into becoming a mother , when she does not want to be a mother is disgusting .🤢🤮

I always notice that Frank never answers April when she asks him point blank if he actually wants another child. That speaks volumes to me.

Lucky u I wish I didn’t get married at the age of 19 😢 it makes me so sad to even think about it 😞

I got married young because I got pregnant. I wish I would have things differently but it’s a choice now. I have to choose to love the life I have now. No one told me that.

Exactly. Imagine how the child feels

18 years of child support would say otherwise But hey money grows on trees and he won't have to burn his body down working to earn that child support, right?

@@theredstar6493you sound incredibly foolish and you don’t deserve a response but I’m going to give it. No money is comparable to the 9 months that a woman carrying a child. What’s the point of the money when the woman and the baby could die during child birth. You all think money means everything

@@mattlagassa9084 pretty sure the fetus doesn't

@@nooneasked32 fetus is a Latin word. It translates to offspring. So, the attempt to make a distinction between a “child” and a “fetus” is superfluous. Given that the word child is synonymous with the word offspring, no? Also, if someone in a terrible accident lost all feeling below the waist, would that then mean it would be okay to saw off said person’s legs? Because your logic seems to be: as long as a Being cannot feel an action being done to them, then any action done to them is justified

Yes ❤

She brings out his best performances.

But she was being dysfunctional. Esp. Considering the times they were in.

@@mermaidmomma3696 She was refusing to kowtow to social pressures to conform, something April and Frank talked about constantly. But when push came to shove, it was April who still had the courage to offer a compromise. Frank didn't.

That's gaslighting 101 right there. A person says how they're feeling and the other person calls them crazy. It's happened to me, many times.

this is based back in the 50s when divorce was taboo

@@MC32595 Divorce still is taboo in some communities 🤣 You should've seen the L Word fandom complaining about why Bette and Tina were written as having divorced, pissing on Rosie O'Donnell when she was cast as Tina's new fiancé, and demanding that Bette and Tina remarry 🤣🤣 Lesbian community still lives in the 1950s where one woman has to be the dominant alpha male

​@@MC32595 that doesn't matter, divorce has been around for centuries, that would have been the smartest thing for them to do

@@onamattapeeya At the time in the US, there were no no-fault divorce laws in any of the states. Back then to get a divorce, you needed to show evidence that the partner was at fault for the breakup. This obviously wasn't very helpful for cases of emotional or financial abuse since there's no way to prove that the partner said something unless you had a recording(technology being very limited back then, no tape recorders) and women weren't expected to have their own finances during the 50s so there is no way they could be financially abused according to them.

After consideration and evaluation of both the video and your comment, I think you're right

Jack is NOT Frank. Jack was an angel... Frank is just a regular human.

@cimmerianfable lmaoo noted! Haha I've never watches this movie but now I know not to compare frank and jack lmao

😂

@JoshyHush I agree

her character has the right on not wanting to keep her baby so i don’t see how that affects you.

You didn't like her because she doesn't want another kid and knows it would be irresponsible to bring another child into the world she did not want?

@@Lorena-wo2mf hi Karen

@@onamattapeeya I'm a Karen cus I'm prochoice? Mkay

Christopher Walken played his dad in Catch Me If You Can, so that’s fitting!

@@IDidntWantAHandleKZfaq True 🤣🤣

Thank you for coming forward w this. You’re not alone.

The mistake is not in itself the kids. The mistake is to not think of one’s goals and dreams for the future including whether you want to have kids or not.

Jack would’ve whisked Rose away to Paris in a snap, pregnant and all.

Lol, no! Jack would have listened to Rose because he wasn't selfish. Neither was she. He would have tried to save his marriage instead of holding onto misery.

no way! jack is level headed and calm. he wouldn't let fights go this far, he's the type who is carefree and is also a little passive. he and rose would've had fights for sure, but not this violent, they would've made up quickly

It seems people mention Jack and Rose for the sake of making jokes

So funny, heh

But still is killing a child worth the sacrifice for a dream

Preach !

It's a great movie

Because it was. They already had an established life with children and responsibilities. Neither of them had any real, practical plan for how any of it was going to work. But the reason Frank calls it childish is to mask his own insecurity. He’s terrified of going to Paris and not working because he’s losing the only identity he knows. What if there’s nothing else for him in Paris? What if he gets there and finds out he’s not good at anything and that his awful, dull office job back in the states was the most he could ever hope to achieve? April would realize he’s actually a very small, insignificant man, and that would force him to accept that he’s a small, insignificant man. He defines his own self-worth through the lens of April’s love for him. He believes she is the most interesting and beautiful woman in the world, and so if she loves him, he must be interesting and beautiful as well. The idea that he might really be average at best is terrifying to him. It’s much easier to dismiss April’s plan as childish, use the baby as an excuse to stay, and turn the entire thing on her by implying that she must be mentally unstable to not see things his way. After all, even April points out that he doesn’t really want another child either. And we can see from the look on his face that she’s absolutely right. The book really defines the characters and their motivations much more clearly. It’s a great book - but definitely not a feel-good story.

@@IDidntWantAHandleKZfaq he has morals to know it's wrong to kill the baby

@@rose.888 Not true, sorry. When April tells him right before this scene that she knows he doesn’t want the baby anymore than she does, we can tell by his face that she’s absolutely correct. The book makes it abundantly clear as well. Frank has no desire to have a third child (he never really wanted the first two either). He uses the children as an excuse to keep April under his control as he’s terrified that she will leave him for not being enough of a man. He has no objection to the abortion on moral grounds - he just uses that tactic to gaslight her.

Damn you! Where I'm from we don't legalize the killing of babies mother freaker!

Nah

@@LeJobastre1215 yes

Adoption not abortion.

@@saynotohookups abortion not adoption

It's not Frank's body.

​@@SanFranDentist94301 could say the same thing about april.

@@JR-Weh But it's a passenger in hers

Paris is overrated trash anyway 😂

More people not being able to kill their children? Sounds great to me!

Oh shut the fuck up. Don’t have sex then. Abortion almost killed me.

Yes, more children being born. Instead of killing them. Yes.

Thank goodness.

@@shayleibellew4309Definitely. Unsafe, “home remedy” abortions that result in accidental death are good for society.

A shitty human from what I've seen in this clip. I haven't seen the movie, but from what I saw in this clip, I got the impression that she placed her dreams and wants above her children. And since she already had children, that makes her a shitty mother and a selfish person.

My daughter's name is maryam too :)