I feel like the mlb fandom are more able to write the show than the actual writers

Tikki: Marinette is the best Ladybug I ever known. Meanwhile, the show canonically has shown that Joan D'Arc was also Ladybug. A literal saint and patron of France.

Honestly, for a show that has a Chinese/half Chinese protagonist, I don’t actually see many references to her culture. Sure, the show doesn’t have to, and it’s not like they show many french ones either, but there’s a lot more that could have been explored regarding it.

In my opinion, Kagami is basically the perfect representation of how Marinette should have been. Marinette just seems like a cheap version of her.

I was always weirded out about Marinette's obsession and how their friends supported her.

The fact that Marinette was about to kiss a statue of Adrien is borderline disgusting

It’s actually pretty interesting how lacking Marinette’s Chinese heirtage influences her life. Her mother moved from china to France, changed her first name to fit in better and married Tom after a few years, but we still don’t know why she did all that. She’s not in contact with her family, her uncle who she hasn’t seen before Marinatte was born who only stopped by because he had other business in Paris, and she didn’t even stick around to visit instead delegating her daughter who doesn’t speak a word of mandarin to welcome her grand uncle that she’s never met or know much about. In the Shanghigh special when Marinette goes to visit said grand uncle she sees a picture of her mom as a child whom she’s never seen at that age but also discovers that her mother has a sister that Marinette had no privious knowledge of until that moment. I don’t know if it’s all a mishap of the writers or if it’s leading to something bigger, I guess we’ll see.

In the anime version marinette is actually very straight forward with Adrian, and always trys to confess to him, but the twist is andrian doesn't like her and is kind of annoyed, it's basically like a Sasuke and Sakura ver, and the funny thing is when they're on their hero form, Adrian is biggest simp for ladybug and marinette/ladybug just keeps friendzoning him 💀 I like this story more, and if they actually sticked to the story it would probably be more successful.

The thing about Yandere Simulator is that we, as a mature audience, know Ayano is not a good person. But Marinette is displayed as a role model to young children and is never called out on her bs but only praised. That itself makes it a would-be a horrible show for younger kids to watch but a guilty pleasure us older audiences. Edit: hoq rhe frick did i get 2.6 k???

the buns can also be symbolism of how her self-esteem is much higher when she's ladybug, while being low as Marinette. edit: thanks to the comments that said it's symbolism!!

Honestly, every time Marinette TRIED to talk to Adrien, I had to force myself not to skip the scene. Her reactions were way too exaggerated. I remember there was this one episode in which she STOLE his phone to delete her voice message, I understand that it's embarrassing but I felt like it was an opportunity for the show to address her obsession. Realistically, it would be almost impossible to NOT know someone has a crush on you if they were being as obvious as Marinette was (literally everyone in their class knows about Marinette's crush but Adrien). We have all seen Adrien being uncomfortable when Chloe touches him, so what if Adrien knew about Marinette's obsession with him and was slightly uncomfortable but didn't want to reject her cause of his "nice guy" persona? What if Marinette was caught trying to delete the message? That would've given the show a chance to address the toxic infatuation and given Marinette a little more character development after getting rejected to mature.

Ya know what's funny? You mention the idea that Marinettes friends convince her she has a crush on Adrien and she just goes along with it to fit in. That happens in canon. But not with Adrien. But with Luka. She was so clearly *not* into that guy but everyone was like "Oh! Hot guy! Marinette! You have a crush!"

I truly believe one of the biggest problems is Thomas austruc himself. He's really problematic and doesn't take kindly to any kind of criticism. He blocks those who disagree with him and takes things personally. For example, Chloe could've gotten a really good redemption but because Thomas didn't like Chloe, he completely ruined it. If it were someone else that was actually open to the viewers criticism and not problematic the show would've been better. Not perfect, but better.

A storyline I’ve wanted to see in the series since the beginning: Chat Noir finally realizes Lady Bug is never going to be into him. Marinette also realizes Adrien is not going to be into her. Marinette mopes around one night and Adrien surveying around as Chat Noir sees her and is like “oh hey, that’s Marinette from my class, why is she sad?” They start hanging out a lot and actually get to know each other and help each other through hard times and toxic behaviours like Marinette’s obsession with Adrien (not knowing she’s talking about him, of course) and Adrien not standing up for himself in his daily life. They actually developed REAL feelings for each other instead of what they built the other person up to be in their heads.

Oh, that part about "gaslighted into thinking you like someone" hits hard. I am lesbian, and always was, but I was gaslighted several times by my friends into thinking I liked a boy...

When you mentioned the abuse of the miraculous, it reminded me of that episode where Chloe was the clear cut answer to defeat the Villain of the Week. But Marinette decided to go for Kagami to get her away from Adrien. And this in turn led to her leading Hawkmoth directly to Master Fu.

I honestly feel like Chloe is the most interesting and human character in the show and I hate how they completely ruined her in the season three finale by taking away all her character depth and replacing her with the bland piece of bread that is Zoe which litterally makes NO sense since all the other non zodiac miraculous holders are the main characters

I think the main problem in the later scenes is that chat noir becomes extremely creepy. Ladybug says several times she’s not interested and he starts lashing out and keeps on trying to force a relationship on her. Another problem is that the show starts taking itself way too seriously.

Luka is SUCH a GOOD PERSON, he's so considerate and caring, he puts other people's safety over his. Luka deserves better than Mari, Luka is honestly one of the best characters in the show and I'm sad to see that he's in one of the worst tv shiws

Honestly I feel like most fans agree the whole series deserves a massive reboot with a better showrunner who actually understands teen girls.

The redesign is honestly the exact way I've always envisioned Marinette! With the Chinese homage and the twin buns, even down to the ribbons!

I'm not even halfway in and I still agree with callie. Marinette is a VERY OBVIOUS YANDERE. This show has so much room for improvement but thomas never works on it AND INSTEAD, blocks people who like a character he doesn't. Mlb is basically addictive trash

"Traumatize the child" -- Callimara, 2021 Seriously though, you make some excellent points. I always fund it weird how Mari's stalker-like behavior was praised and even called "romantic".

Fanfic writers are better doing Marinette some justice than the writers of the show themselves. I'm interested and kind of want to write about it.

"She is as spoiled as Chloe, and as much a compulsive liar as Lila, but she's the main protagonist so it's okay." *THANK. YOU.* I get her lying to keep her superhero identity a secret. Anyone would do the same thing. But my heart breaks every time she lies to either: - Hang out with friends she sees every day - Stalk the crush she sees every day And completely blows off the people that love her (like her extended family or Luka), or even takes advantage of their goodwill (her parents) to fuel the above. She's fortunate to have so many people who care about her, and it's gut-wrenching to watch how nonchalantly she treats them.

i love the thought of tikki being over protective and plagg barely caring. expanding on that idea, what if marinette's parents are very loose with her (still good parents, just not knowing whats best for her) and she likes having tikki put a little structure in her life because when everything was ambiguous, she felt overwhelmed. And on the opposite hand, gabriel is still very strict and controlling of adrien but plagg lets him break free of everything holding him back. thats kind of how it is in the show but it could be explored more.

The suit redesign is very nice. I’m half Chinese and really like how you used the design of a qipao The only tweaks I’d make is to use the bun cover idea and have the mask just be a solid black or dark red with maybe some gold accents

Something that would have added a little personality to Marinette is a messy room. At 14, my room was never clean, especially when I was working on a project. I still usually have paints, sketchbooks, fabrics, pens, and half-finished projects everywhere around my work station. An organized chaos for the sake of creating. It adds a hint of personality

I have an idea for Tikki :> So instead of them being like a helicopter parent (While still kinda being like one) they should be more of a manipulative parental figure that doesn’t realize it. Like they’re constantly getting into Marinette’s head and critiquing every little thing Marinette does and makes the excuse, “I just want the best for you!” But they actually do want the best for her. Or, you could make her some sadistic secret villain that hopes Marinette breaks under the pressure and expectations of her peers. Tikki included.

As someone whose favourite garbage show is Mlb, i am looking forward to seeing what you think about marinette! She sure is a.... character in the show.

Honnestly, I haven't watched the show, but I've read some pretty good fanfics, so I kinda got into the fandom, and obviously now I want to write some. And I think a way to make Marinette more interesting would be to make her mirror Adrien. Adrien is maybe the easier character to write in this show, because he has basic internal drive and conflict (being himself/making friends VS pleasing his father), which is easy to identify and use when writing him ; and a link with the main plot (more freedom to be himself as Chat Noir + HawkMoth identity) that makes him relevant to the plot. Adrien's personnal conflict is woven into the main plot of the story, which is what a good story should do. If Marinette has that, I haven't found it (if y'all have found it, I'll be sincerely happy to hear about it). At best, she has insecurities, and being Ladybug helps her overcome them. But that's pretty light, and I feel that with so little, kinda anybody could be Ladybug... So I think a way to make her more pertinent would be to have her mirror Adrien's ark/conflict: Being Chat Noir allows Adrien to have more freedom to explore who he is, without risking his relation with his father (which, you know, is a really good starting point because it allows him to escape his main internal conflict, which in a well-written story could end up biting him back in a very satisfactory way, especially considering HawkMoth identity. Like, that's really a perfect set up for character development and growth). Well then, maybe for Marinette, being Ladybug comes with a loss of freedom: she doesn't have time to design or sew anymore, she has to lie to her family and friends which weigh on her. She has difficulties dealing with the workload that comes with being Ladybug, because she isn't used to such a full schedule - contrary to Adrien. Ladybug's interventions take on her freetime, while for Adrien, it is freetime. She still appreciate being Ladybug, because being given responsabilities, and succesfully managing them, makes her feel more like a grown-up (which basically all teenagers want, at that age), and makes her feel more confident in herself. She manages to protect Paris, that's certainly the proof she's worth something. And that would make a fundamental difference between them: for Adrien being Chat Noir means freedom. For Marinette, being Ladybug means responsability. Which is an interesting dychotomia if you want to make a theme about growing up (and aren't all kids shows about growing up), because being adult means both freedom AND responsabilities, and globally, in real life, they come together. And if we keep this idea of being a superhero as a parallel of growing up, I think their whole love-square with only 2 characters can work pretty well - under the condition of actually doing an identity reveal. One of the thing you learn while growing up is the notion of nuance: things are rarely all black or white, and people espacially are complicated. And teenage years are usually the moment when you realize that relationships are complicated. And I think the whole secret-identity masked-superheroes thing can work pretty well with that : when discovering each other identity, Marinette and Adrien realize they don't really know each other, and it's the occasion to learn that people have depth, and different facets, and wear different masks depending on the situation, and it doesn't always mean any of these masks are fake. And that can be the occasion for Marinette to realize she has been absolutly creepy. It's not even hard to still have them end up together, they just have to actually learn to know each other, and they can very well really fall in love with each other. And then you get the villain identity reveal, and personnal conflict, and arguments, and you make the kids cry. *evil laugh* Anyway, I'm not sure if that could really work for a kid show, maybe it's more highschoolers-oriented than middleschooler-oriented. But I feel like the show has no real theme or message, plot-wise, and is pretty bad at writing actual characters. I mean, it's not a fair comparison, but AtlA was a kid show and had both a theme, a message, and fleshed out characters. So, like, that's doable. And I was nice, I talked only about Marinette (and Adrien, but like, if your only 2 protagonists aren't coherents with each other, you have a problem). Because there are a lot of other things that I want to talk about, and whose potential where wasted. But this comment is already long enough.

14:50 So I rewatched the video, and her crush on Adrien being a sort of escapism would actually explain a lot! Like how she always is about to confess, or how they get so close, but she shuts it down immediately. Maybe out of fear if he rejects her, because she doesn’t want to lose the one thing that keeps her “grounded”.

Miraculous is not just for kids, I call it "youthful infant", it has aspects that appeal to a younger audience, but it also has things that even an adult can like or relate to. Come on, do you really want me to believe that Emilie isn't dead or that Gabriel still have a chance to change? He's a monster, and Chloe's mom? Abandoned her daughter as a child, cheated on her husband and had another daughter, treats her own family like garbage and other people too; that's just a little bit of what happens in this cartoon, and it's not childish at all.

I remember they scrapped the original idea of Bridget (the anime version of Marinette), because they said it was a "bad influence" for young girls to love a boy who doesn't feel the same way as you do. And then they made her a stalker, that's WAY better right? Anyway, i liked how you fixed this flaw in your re-writting and how you made her suit actually look like a ladybug.

I really like how to changed Tikki and Plague, it's a reversal of the normal parents in Marinette and Adrian's lifes. Marinette's real life parents take on a more passive role and let her do whatever she wants and Adrian's dad is over protective. Making Tikki a helicopter parent gives Marinette much needed grounding in life while Plague offers freedom. It can also be a way to show how their super hero sides are where they are most free, too. Marinette getting wanted guidance and Adrian acting like how he can only dream to be like.

i wish they had expanded on the previous lady bugs and cat noirs and the kwamis, because it's pretty implied they didn't see the kwamis as living beings, since Plag gets emotional/surprised whenever Adrien shows pity or emphaty for him. I think it would be a great point in the history for Marinette and Tikki / Adrien and Plagg to understand each other better and for the kwamis to maybe just try and tutor the literal 14 yrs olds that they are stuck whit

The worst part about Marinette is that she feels like a Mary Sue that has been artificially inserted into Adrien's story. Adrien is in a perfect position to be an interesting main character for a show like Miraculous Ladybug: he has been sheltered all his life so he would naturally need to be introduced to the main cast and learn lessons about how the world works. He also has a much deeper reason to be Cat Noir as he gets to be free for the first time and therefore it is a much bigger deal and much more at stake when/if he messes up, on top of having an actual connection to what is going on given that not only is his father Hawkmoth but his mother was a former hero. As for Marinette, outside of the show's lack of acknowledgment of her flaws that you brought up earlier, the biggest problem I have with her is that her crush on Adrien is not only creepy but is never given a proper explanation beyond love at first sight. An easy fix would be that since she has been a fan of Gabriel's work for a long time since she is a budding fashion-designer, she has naturally been crushing on Adrien much like someone her age might be obsessed with the members of a boyband. This crush then ballons into something much more unhealthy when she falls for him in real life since her understanding of romance and what it means to be in love comes from bad romantic comedies (anime and otherwise) and dollar-store romance novels which have given her plenty of bad advice. There could be some interesting commentary there about how unhealthy a lot of romantic tropes really are if it had the opportunity to move into a more mature direction, allowing Marinette's toxic behaviour to be acknowledged in the process. Edit: And by the way, is it just me or is Hawkmoth's power completely wasted as a concept given that person who was akumatized forgets everything they did while akumatized? You have a villain who preys on negative emotions, imagine the type of stories that can be told with that. The dangers of toxic positivity, the different coping-mecanisms people develop because of the threat of being used against their will, people who can't control their emotions (like people with PDB) having no defense again the akuma... The lost story-potential just hurts me a lot as a writer. It is kind of sad when most fanfiction-authors within the MLB-community accomplishes more with the characters than the show-writers themselves does...

Tikki saying that Marienette is the best ladybug leaves me questioning just how bad the last ladybug was lol Were they like a criminal or smth?

i just realized that marinette is literally what a sasaeng is😀

Having gotten into this show as a preteen and still watching it as a mere guilty pleasure now that I'm an adult, it's really hit me how there is absolutely no stakes at all, especially in the later seasons. The first couple of seasons felt they had some semblance of a larger overarching plot whereas the third season and beyond just erases that (that and the fact that the timeline is absolute hell to discern, coming from someone who absolutely loves to create timelines). I'm not entirely sure when exactly the time resets start (maybe "Chat Blanc" I believe) but the concept of a time travelling miraculous throws off the whole direction of the show. At least with the snake miraculous it's only limited to 5 minute increments (honestly the rabbit miraculous should have been something simple like speed). Due to this element, every episode feels meaningless as it will all get reversed anyways which makes the viewer take little stock in the story. There's a ton more I would love to go on about (especially the undercooked characters, complete disregard for Chloe's development, and complicated storyline/release schedule) but that would warrant a whole blog post.

Kagami is my favorite character from Miraculous, everyone hated her for being Adrien’s love interest but she was one of the best written girls in miraculous. Kagami was like Adrien and related to him and their relationship was actually cute because Kagami actually acted like a girl with a crush, she was reserved because she didn’t have many social skills but she tries to communicate with Adrien. I honestly rlly prefer her over Marinette

I really wish that master Fu was ACTUALLY a wise mentor who ACTUALLY taught her important life lessons. Also I would like to believe that he should be an important character to the story since he is the miraculous holder (at the time). I don't know I think it would be cool if he was ACTUALLY useful to the story because all his purpose is for Marinette to get a new toy from the slot machine when the writers can't think of another way to add to the hero team.

I like how you kept her "I'm clumsy and has insecurities, however I love helping out people and being creative" personality and making her obsession with Adrien a character flaw that she will get called out on When I first watched the show I wasn't aware of her creepy obsession over Adrien who barely talks to her- Good thing I got mature enough to realize: "oh- that's creepy and very weird" whenever she stalks Adrien

Fanfiction does these characters way more justice than the official screen writers have. A classic example of great idea, dire execution ~

I had this sudden thought while watching your rewrite and im thinking, what if instead of Marinette loving Adrien and Chat loving Ladybug, its the opposite; as in Adren falls in love with Marinette because of her passion for fashion and care for everyone, and Ladybug loving Chat because he always makes all the stress of being a hero easier on her and always being there so that they can put their heads together and think of a solution to what theyre facing, as contrasted to all the expectations of her as ladybug? But they never or rarely express their feelings for each other because of all the expectations piled onto them in those forms. This way it would imo be closer to "true love" since the version they fall in love with would technically be each other's true selves. And if Marinette decides to design outfits based on Chat it would also be really cute! This would also be easier to build on as the story progresses as compared to the yandere personality which original Marinette has for Adrien

I basically call miraculous the ‘potential pool’ it has so much potential to be a legendary show but they never play with it so it just falls flat and get me frustrated

You can enjoy this video in various ways. Hearing someone's opinions and ideas is one way and the other is watching an epic battle between the author and Marinette's left leg. All I can say is: I feel your struggle and I empathize with you.

I'm around the same age of Marinette and I totally agree with everything you said it's honestly annoying how the creators prioritize the "crush" instead of the actual storyline and character development and then miraculous is so long for nothing tbh it's mostly filler episodes

For the weird motion sickness thing, could’t they have just gave her a new suit? Red with black spots could’ve been translated differently and still looked cool and easy to draw/translate into animation.

I hope she redesign Chloe because she was done extremely dirty. She had so much potential to be a 3 dimensional character in season two but it was lost in season 3. I would love to see how Callimara rewrite and redesign her.

Okay hear me out, Tikki, Plagg and the other kwamis with human form where they can actually spar and properly train the miraculous holders; CAUSE I WANT MORE SCENES LIKE "Do It For Her" FROM Steven Universe DANGIT!

You'd think Marinette would have at least some knowledge of her Chinese heritage considering her mom literaolly wears a qipao 24/7.

I'm HYPED to see what you're gonna change, 'cause, I can already tell it's gonna be a HUGE improvement for mlb's horrible writing! - w -

You know, I normally hate when people say they “fixed” a character, as I usually don’t find much wrong with the characters in question. But everything about Marinette has gone so far down hill since season 1, and it’s the main reason why I stopped watching Miraculous; I find that fanfiction portrays her in a far more enjoyable light than the show does (even the cringy, authored-by-a-12-year-old Wattpad stories do her character more justice). I got so much secondhand embarrassment from her extreme, jealous behaviors, and while there are plenty of teenage girls that are like that, I find it to be unfitting for the storyline and her role as a character.

As a realistic teen girl similar to marinette and as the target audience I couldn’t force myself through more than 12 episodes

30:23 "Trauma add's flavor" I KNOW YOU DID NOT JUST-

I think Adrien should have been the main character, his story is so interesting, I think his relationship if Chloe would be cool, like Chloe does something mean and makes Adrien sad, yet she and Adrien makeup and something cute happens, and Chloe's pettiness and Adrien's modestness make a cute enemies to lovers/opposites attract kind of story with a hint of childhood friends

Almost all the "fans" of the show agree it's bad, but we can't stop watching ;-;

When you talked about Mari’s artistic side and how they could’ve expressed it more, it remind me a lot of the character Shirin from the book A Very Large Expanse of Sea.

The weird thing is, I mostly watch the show so i can be up to date for fanfics and fandom. I think the latest season is intresting and I honestly am too invested in this show even though I know it's bad.

I also hated the fact how whenever ladybug always ask Chat Noir to give her personal space and not act so lovesick around her- WHILE MARINETTE BREAKS INTO ADRIEN’S HOME AND SNIFFED HIS SHEETS AND SCREAMED “Adrien’s scent!”

It's impresive how the male characters are able to move on after a "No" (Except Chat Noir, because he is also a stalker) Nino gets rejected, bum! Girlfriend Nathaniel gets rejected, bum! Boyfriend. Luka gets rejected "It's okay, I don't want to own you, your happiness is more important" But Adrien and the gals are literally walking redflags. P.S: The dark comedy idea is absolutly amazing

And I thought I was the weird one for thinking Marinette was creepy- I didn't know it ran THIS deep- Thanks for this lovely video Calli!

18:30 that is even true in the show. I have never seen Alya or any of her other friends discourage Marinette of her obsession. They even urge her on it.

I never thought I needed a series like this in my life, but now that it´s here I absolutely adore it!

It's interesting how some of your points are actually addressed in later episodes. Spoiler warning now, but I will try to keep it vague and steer away from major plot points if I can. In later seasons, they very much do touch on the fact that Marinette is very stressed. They have some very big moments where they address the fact that she's under a lot of pressure being both a hero and a civilian and she can't tell others about this. In my opinion the episodes get better as the seasons progress and the later episodes are better done. The first season had a ridiculously short deadline time and was done hastily and lazily because of it, but as the seasons go on, they have bigger budgets and more time to write and show us the story of Miraculous ladybug. Watching Marinette grow is something that happens in the show. Could they do a better job of it? Absolutely! She's still an obsessed lunatic, and in many ways they should address that. But she definitely matures a bit more in later episodes and things become more centred around other things besides adrien. Unfortunately a big issue that I still have is that Adrien is a flat character. They just use him as comic relief or to move along Marinette's story line when he could very well have a lot more depth to him. Your point about the love interest was interesting as well, it reminds me a lot of how people were very adverse to Aoyama Masaya in Tokyo Mew Mew, but really enjoyed Kisshu, because Aoyama was the pretty boy love interest that was perfect in every way and Ichigo loved him so much it was sickening, but she was incredibly adverse to Kisshu despite him making several advances on her and practically assaulting her multiple times because he thought of her as his toy. In a similar way I think people look at Adrien and Chat Noir, where we have this perfect boy who everyone loves and the protagonist is obsessed with, then you have this playful boy with feline attributes who makes puns and playful remarks, always trying to woo the protagonist and never getting anywhere with his advances, to the point where he gets jealous or upset over it on several occassions. It's an interesting dynamic that in a way makes Chat Noir more likeable, but also makes Adrien unlikeable as a character and very boring and flat. I feel like they could do a lot more with him. Similar to Aoyama where they eventually had him become the Blue Knight, and later Deep Blue, there is a lot of Potential for Adrien to grow and become someone else, figuratively or literally.

i actually like the newer seasons, i think it goes away from her obsession a little and goes into other matters such as ladybug and catnoir's troublesome relationship and even goes into the point that marinette might not actually like adriens true personality. but I think the newer seasons might get too complicated for younger kids, its not as simple as the first season anymore.

27:54 They “tried” to address the heroes’ carelessness by having Chat Noir accidentally hit another hero with his Cataclysm. He even admitted that if it wasn’t for LB’s Lucky Charm, they would be dead. I liked that they did show the level of damage that Chat Noir can truly do. However, they started turning the poor kid into a joke. I do like the idea of consequences though 😊 I really like the ideas of your changes to the show, and I love Marinette’s new costume design that you made. It really fits her as I like to envision her. 👍🏻👍🏻

Can I say that I hella appreciate the fact you mentioned Marinette’s Chinese Heritage? I feel like the show doesn’t show her Chinese Heritage enough and we only have like 2-3 episodes or something like that, that DOES show she is Chinese. I actually completely forgot she was Chinese because over how much it isn’t shown in the show. So, when you added that Chinese twist onto Mari’s costume. God, did I praise you for that. Not only is it clear the fact she is Chinese, but she is very stylish as well. Since Mari is a fashion designer I think the costume does fit her very well. When you mentioned the fact Marinette is completely love sick and insane in the head, I 100% agree with that. Something in the next season 2-3 (can’t remember exactly haven’t seen the show in awhile) in MLB, there is a Character that is introduced and her name Is Lila. She is like Chloe but much more manipulative and rude. The reason I bring this up is because of the fact, when she WAS introduced she was being all lovey dovey to Adrian and the ONLY reason Mari didn’t like her was because SHE 👏 LIKE 👏 ADRIAN 👏. Marinette is honestly so ridiculously so in love with Adrian, that she didn’t even try to get to know Lila first and such. I feel like what should have been a much better approach that since Lila is such a manipulative character, I feel like she should have tried to make everyone like her (She already has), and even Mari. I feel like In this part Mari would have a bad feeling about Lila than just hating her just because she has a crush on Adrian (She does know Lila is a liar and such etc, but it’s so focused around the fact Lila liked Adrian). I honestly do feel like is Lila never go close and started being lovey dovey to Adrian, Mari could have actually fallen into Lila’s lies and stuff. I actually would NOT be surprised that Mari has Obsessive Love Disorder. I’m not even joking when I say she has broke into Adrian’s house before. Anyways, What I like about how you approached this was the fact you didn’t necessarily downgrade Marinette‘s love thing for Adrian. In your story writing, you made it to where it is only a pure-pressure crush. I really do like that a lot. It isn’t obsessive, it isn’t crazy behavior, but it is more turned into trying to fit in. Fitting in middle school (I think they are in middle school) is honestly such a big thing that happens in pre-teen years, so I like how you didn’t do the cliché change your self for popularity and stuff, but only did it with a small crush. Suggestions for the Next Redesign: If you are gonna do Adrian next, I would love how you would approach in the story about his family and such. Since Adrian’s mother died at a young age of his life, his father has been closed off and an asshole to him. When you mentioned in your story that Tikki and Plagg is like Yin-Yang, that plagg isn’t that much into helping Adrian ( In your story line) I can actually see him having a hard time having emotional connections with people. So if Mari tries to be in a relationship with him (Like in your story line, it is a friend pressure crush so there is no feeling happening), maybe Adrian could be kind of awkward and a little closed off. This is only an idea because of some research I did on my own characters of my own stories it says that When a child loses someone they loved dearly at a young age (along with a poor house environment), they may grow up with trust issues, low-self esteem, and always feeling lonely and isolated. I feel like this applies to Adrian a lot. Because I feel like this would change people’s perspective of how he is seen in the show. In the show most of the time, we usually see him as a blinded-blond boy-idiot-human. He is pretty much thrown a lot to the side later on in the show, I’m where I think this will make his mental health state worse. This is only an Idea I though of if you do Adrian next. I feel like it isn’t necessarily so heavy to where it’s lead to adults but it kinda gives people an understand that he is kind of suffering with lack of trust and isolation. Plus maybe him being cheerful and happy could be a front of him trying not to bother people with his emotions so he could see him being Cat Noir as an escape (like he already is in the show). This is an idea I though of for if you are gonna do Adrian next. I do hope you had lots of fun with your redesigns and I am excited to see more ^^

bro if the fandom just came together to completely re-produce this show without all the flaws and actual character development id watch ALL of it. like rewrite it and then animated it and put it on youtube as fan-made I'd watch it 100%

I feel like Marinette should have been written like a “Tim Drake” character. If you don’t know (kind of spoilers), Tim was a kid who was pretty much neglected by his parents. After figuring out Nightwing’s (a superhero from Blüdhaven) identity, and by extension, Batman and Robin’s, he became obsessed with them. Stalking and taking pictures of them on patrol, etc. While it wasn’t nearly as bad as Marinette’s stalker tendencies, as he only ever did it when they were in costume, it’s obvious that his obsession is due to having no supervision or care from his parents. He latched on to their dynamics to distract himself from his own loneliness. It’s an actual character trait that’s addressed and he has to overcome it when he becomes Robin himself. TLDR; Marinette had a lot of wasted potential lol.

Talking about season 3 and 4, I have a bone to pick with what they did to Chloe. Chloe has always been a spoiled brat and honestly kinda a bitch. It would have been fine if they just kept her that way She's a side character who's bully and, in kids' shows, those kind of characters are pretty one dimensional. But then, we meet her absent mom who's just like her but much worse, and we see that everything Chloe does is imitate her mom because she really loves and just wants her mom to notice her, Chloe wants to have a mother-daughter relationship like everyone else has. And then Chloe accidentally gets the Bee miraculous and becomes a superhero. Sure, at first, she's still selfish and causes trouble but she got better. She learnt from her mistakes, she tries to become a better person to be worthy of being a hero, and we see her fail, we see her get back up, and we see her succeed in little ways. She was even the first person to resist Hawkmoth powers! We see her slowly but surely becoming a genuinely good person... And then they just threw all that character development out of the window and she reverted back to her old self and sometimes even worse than her old self! Wtf! That was an actually decent redemption arc they had going! All of that for nothing! And then they actually had the audacity to create "Chloe's half-sister, Zoe" who's apparently "Chloe but nice and good" (and also bland af) and have her replace Chloe as the Bee miraculous holder! Zoe is literally just Chloe at the end of the redemption arc but without all the sass and personality. What!? Also, Zoe's Bee hero design is also not as good as Chloe's buy that's a minor point.

love how u added the ox horn buns; such a nice touch given everyone seems to forget marinette & adrien are 13-14 (literal children LMAO, and marinette is characterised...very childish, so ofc she'd wear a children's hairstyle even if she is a LITTLE too old for it). makes my little chinese heart go BWAAA

11:16 I did find out that in season 5 marinette used to have a crush on kim, who was friends with Chloe. Once Kim pranked her with spiders which she hated, she decided that she will never have a crush unless she knows everything about him, his plans, timetable and especially that he's not friends with Chloe. We find out why shes a stalker in the FITH SEASON! they could've told us that in at least that first two seasons.

I would honestly prefer the show if it took the whole 'soulmate' thing and made it platonic. At the beginning of the show, they could've made Marinette have been gaslit into believing she was in love, as is in the rewrite, but throughout the show I feel like it might have been better if she realized that not only was her 'crush' obssessive, but that it was never really a crush at all. When I was younger, I constantly considered platonic and familial relationships in media the better ones, which may have just been me being queer, but it also helped me learn that you don't need a boyfriend or girlfriend to be happy. If they would have taken Marinette's original obssessivness and turned it into a character arc -- teaching children what a toxic crush/relationship looks like, and teaching them how to recognize any of these qualities in themselves. Plus, if they had one of the most important relationships in the show be *platonic,* it would show children that, not only does working on yourself work, but you can have great relationships without romance. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk, and sorry if it seemed a little rude! The character designs and rewrites are great, keep it up! These videos are pulling my brain along right now.

If I'm being totally fair, Adrien actually IS a celebrity. He's a model that works mostly for his father's fashion company. So it's not like Marinette having a celebrity crush style interest in Adrien would be unwarranted. The only part of it that doesn't really work is, if she's got a celebrity crush on him, why did she start out not trusting him at all? It would make more sense if she initially had that celebrity crush on him well before they actually met, and following actually meeting him, she either has to spend her time trying to figure out how to deal with this literal celebrity she basically worships being in the halls of her school everyday, or she becomes kinda off put by him as her initial concept of him falls apart either immediately or over time. That second option still leaves the ability for her to put up a front around her friends who insist she should be with him as well. Also, in regards to Luka, from what I've seen of him and Marinette, she has shown legitimate interest in him, and I'd wholeheartedly say he's a significantly better romantic option for her. Granted, as he's presented now, he doesn't have a lot going for him as a character outside of being a musician and a generally nice dude, but his introduction implies that he can read people so easily that he can just look at somebody and then play music that matches the mood they're in and/or what he sees in that person's soul, and I find that specific idea interesting. He might be low key interested in divination (and possibly other things relating to witchcraft) and he uses music as a means of divination. It would also be really cool to explore his connection to his younger sister, Juleka, and possibly his sister's best friend, Rose, because it's implied that Juleka and Rose have been close for a long time and there are things about Rose specifically that it would be cool to know if he's aware of or has any involvement with. But anyway, the reason I say Marinette and Luka would be better together is not only do I see NONE of Marinette's stalker tendencies on display when it comes to Luka (though I might be wrong since I didn't get super far into the show), but despite her still having some of the nervous habits she does when she's around Adrien, it doesn't seem anywhere near as crippling. There's also an artist boy named Nathan who liked her, and between the two of them, I get the concept that Marinette would be better off in a relationship with somebody she can share her creative passions with. She technically could do that with Adrien since he's a model and she probably imagines herself designing clothes for him to wear, but it feels to me like she'd be happy with another creative that she can really grow and collaborate with, and I see more potential for that kind of thing with Luka and even Nathan.

Let's hope you don't get block by the creator of Ladybug since he's known to do that who talk about the show. This redraw and new backstory of Mariette is really cool, pretty and better then the one we have now and can't wait to see more!!! 🥰🥰🥰

If you want to say "Chat Noir" rather than "Cat Noir", you should know that the "T" is then silent. If you pronounce it, it sounds like "chatte", which is a female cat in French, and also how we name a certain part of the female reproductive system. Edit now that I've watched all of the video: I agree with all your points though. And your art is really nice. :)

From a guys perspective who loved the show I thought that what marinette was doing at first was that she really liked adrian and I slowly realised after the hundreds of rerun episodes shes just plain psychotica and I felt more for adrian than anyuthing

As a veteran fan of Miraculous (have followed the show since it’s release in 2015) I appreciate the issues you brought up. I haven’t enjoyed Adrien and Marinette’s relationship for years now, and I honestly wish that the PV (anime) version had gone through instead. The PV version had a much more interesting dynamic, with Felix (who was later replaced by Adrien) being cursed with bad luck via his ring, and the only way to get rid of this curse was to get a kiss from Ladybug. Because of this, he begins flirting with and pursuing her, trying to manipulate a kiss out of her. This is a way more compelling premise, since one of our protagonists starts out at a place where he’s frankly not a good person. We’ve still got the dramatic irony of them not knowing the other’s identity, but now we can almost route for their identities staying secret, since we know that the minute Felix figures out Marinette is Ladybug he’s going to use her crush on him to manipulate her into getting rid of his curse. And the romance part is still compelling because, as the show goes on, Felix can start to actually develop feelings for Ladybug. Now he has the inner conflict of wanting to cure his curse, but not wanting to hurt Ladybug. His full realization of him being in love with Ladybug can culminate to a scene where Ladybug gets attacked by a love-themed Akuma. Then, Ladybug will start being flirty and sort of throws herself at Chat Noir. He recognizes this is a chance to get rid of his curse by kissing her, but he chooses not to, because at this point he’s grown to not only love Ladybug, but has also become way less jaded towards the world, and is less selfish. He recognizes that taking advantage of her at a moment like that is terrible. The worst part is he knows that prior to really getting to know Ladybug he would’ve taken this chance with no hesitation, which makes him angry at his past self. It makes him strive to be a better person, someone that’s actually worthy of Ladybug’s love. The bad luck sucks, but now it’s worth the struggle if it means being with Ladybug, if not as a lover then at least as a friend. A dark twist that could’ve been added is that the bad luck is actually slowly killing Felix. It could be something that’s omitted from the audience for a while, so that it seems he just experiences harmless inconveniences. Then, when we find out why Felix hates the bad luck so much, it really hits us hard. It helps us understand why Felix was so desperate and willing to do something so immoral, and makes us question if we would do the same with that given context Aaa going through the hypothetical scenarios for a show that’ll never happen is so sad. I don’t hate Adrien as a character, but Felix is just much more compelling in my opinion. Adrien doesn't really get time to shine, which is a shame because his side of the storyline is much more interesting than the slice of life stuff we get from Marinette. Like at this point I’m only watching Miraculous to see how the mystery of Adrien’s mom unfolds, and even that is starting to be less compelling now that we've been shown her comatose(?) body so many times. Aside from my ramblings about the wasted potential, Thank you for sharing your redesign! I really love the gold accents of the suit, since her canon suits that have gold are the best, and the combo of gold and red makes her suit pop more. It also works narratively, what with her having the most powerful Miraculous.

I love it when people redesign or rewrite the miraculous ladybug characters and it ends up way better, it's like proving Thomas wrong that child shows *can* be written well and still be for children. I hope you do Adrien next! This rewrite was amazing :D

Something you could add for Ladybug is when is she becomes the guardian that she changes to from the two buns to a single bun as a symbol of her new maturity and as Marrinett she starts wearing her new designs and maybe also changes her hair style to show her new maturity in her normal life.

I LOVE the Chinese influence in the redesign! It's so cute! I wish they added more details about her Chinese side into her fashion designs

that bit around 9:00 about how you shouldn't put the fate of an entire city on children is too true. (im gonna explain this badly) theres an episode where this other master dude trys to take their miraculouses because theyre kids and dont have time and hes seen as wrong??? and eventually ladybug wins him over. but like no hes fully right!! the short master was a good person but that doesnt mean his actions are the stupidest things ive ever seen - DONT GIVE THE MIRACULOUS TO KIDS. or even just people that have other responsibilities.

To me, Marinette will always be an enigma. She’s the main character. Everything has to involve her. The world of Miraculous revolves around Marinette. She’s the single most important character in Miraculous. But also, for a super important character, she really seems like she was just made and held together via. hot glue and prayers.Her character flaws are presented as virtues, as said in the video. In conclusion, she’s the most idolized yandere since *the* Yandere-Chan herself (I say that because I see a lot of people in the Yandere Simulator fandom idolizing her, even helping her do, well, her thing in some self insert art/writing)

Beautiful Redesign! Loved your points on the show and having Marinate give into the peer presser of having a relationship with Adriane is a surprisingly refreshing take on Marinates character.

Marinettes dub VA, Cristina Valenzuela, plays a character in the dub of Komi Can’t communicate, that’s literally just Marinette but framed as a villain. I love it

I swear, people who rewrite/critique MLB make things make so much sense and do it better. I'm so glad to hear other people say that Marinette is a yandere because that is what she is. And it's not healthy, especially for other kids to see this and think it's okay to do. And they will do it, I know this for a fact because when I had started middle school, I had watched Mirai Nikki and thought that that was how you were supposed to act if you had a crush(and i acted like it). Kids are very impressionable. There are so many things to fix in this show, but the bad protagonist is a big one.

The redesign is really beautiful! Yeah for me I watched a little bit of mlb, realized that its not for me but I liked the ideas enough to check up on it once in a while, only to be disappointed that nothing really changed XD I also understand why they decided to go with 3D but I wish they tried harder with some of the characters, like Mari's friend Rose (the one with the short blond hair) actually creeps me out sometimes with how uncanny valley she looks. (Spoilers for one episode in season 4) One of the things that I didn't like was the fact that a responsible adult did come along to teach Mari a few things, including the fact that only responsible and disciplined adults are allowed to get powers, and he called Fu out for being irresponsible. But by the end of that episode he learns his lesson and admits that he was wrong and allows Mari to keep the Miraculous but would come back if she made a big mistake.

29:52 TRAUMATIZE the CHILD

I honestly love the new Lady Bug suit you made! I love seeing her being proud of her Chinese heritage, and your design displays it very nicely.

Unpopular opinion but the latest season of miraculous (while a kind of a wreck and having many elements I don't like) has more continuity and we see more growth out of Marinette...kinda. I enjoyed the trauma/responibility we see marionette taking on and experiencing, having all the stress on her shoulders and seeing how her duties as the guardian take a serious toll on her relationships. I think it has a somewhat nice message, about learning to balance your work and personal life and reaching out to others when it's necessary. AND of course love your redesign!

A few things that really bother me with the show that maybe weren’t talked about here were that, first of all, Marinette and her female classmates are 13-15 (I’ll just say 14 here but they do get older throughout the series). And they have the bodies of grown women. I know it’s not impossible to see young teenagers with fuller chests and maybe even thicker thighs and butts but not every character should be looking like that, or at least not to the extent they make it in the show. I know they probably wanted it to be more “pleasing” to look at, but then at that point just age the characters up more to suit their personalities and roles in the show anyway. And with the thing about damage and whatnot in the show, I think that in the anime the characters probably would’ve been more mature, maybe caused less damage while still physically fighting, or maybe it would be the same thing as you mentioned in the video, the “miraculous ladybug” power doesn’t exist and damage still happens. Since the show would’ve been aimed more toward teens with the physical fighting thing, things like Marinette going to a funeral after a casualty might have been more plausible. Also, Adrien’s character design is awful, if I’m honest. He has a pretty good personality, even as Cat Noir (and I can’t see why Ladybug doesn’t like it), but his character design as Adrien is just- ehhh. His hair looks like a worse version of a 2010 Justin Bieber haircut (yet somehow Oikawa can pull it off), he also just looks weird with the 3D animation, the anatomy, and also his facial expressions, which somehow don’t seem to bother me when he’s Cat Noir or with other male characters. He smiles weirdly, in fact, it seems like a lot of the characters in the show do a wide no teeth smile that looks weird. His fashion sense is the worst part of all though, I’d expect that since he has a fashion designer father he’d dress better but nope. Rip-off orange Converse, those low rise jeans, the shirt isn’t too bad but then the white button down shirt thing on top is weird, especially with the sleeves half rolled up. And the animators don’t even take the time to put Adrien in a different outfit for half the photoshoot scenes we see Marinette stalking. In conclusion, Marinette’s taste in men is ass

just wanna say that i love your re-design for ladybugs outfit, i always disliked how plain it was - especially when they literally made a new outfit for her but didn’t keep it (and how she wants to be a fashion designer) marinette as a concept is cute and sweet but i never liked how obsessive she was with adrien, and you put that into words really well - they should really have tiki or alya or literally anyone else tell her that “hey… that’s not cool at all and privacy is a thing” anyways great video :}

Honestly? The fanfics are so such better than the show itself that I've stopped watching the show and started just reading the fanfics making my own headcanons.

I was a big fan of Miraculous before Saison 4 even though I always found the show to have deplorable writing. Season 3 still had repercussions on Marinette’s mental state which was very interesting but the fact of keeping her obcession for Adrien ruined all. I advise you the "cat blanc "episode because it had its importance. Then I’m at a point where I think fans write the show better than senarists... It’s sad this show has so much potential. Luka in reality is a very cool character but he is a bit too perfect and focused on the marinette character. I hate the basic ship because it is toxic and unhealthy. The show would be better if it was center on Adrien who is a more interesting character.

honestly i feel like the fact that she's Chinese but can't even say a few words in Mandarin is baffling. She lives with her mother who can literally speak fluent Chinese no problem [to my knowledge], and comes into some contact with Chinese relatives. Its honestly ignorant at this point for her to not be able to at least understand some speech. I live with my grandparents who exclusively speak Chinese, and I can comfortably communicate with them. Why not Mari? I understand that just living with Chinese speakers doesn't automatically mean that anyone can be 100% fluent, since I suffer from the same problem, but she should literally be able to understand SOMETHING. She literally went to China. This shouldn't even be a huge issue but it ticks me off SO much. edit: I've seen a few arguments in the comments about people just in general having trouble learning the language and that's totally valid! i totally understand that some people just end up having more trouble learning a language than others. my comment was more aggressive than necessary, and what I was trying to say was that Mari should at least understand how to greet someone and maybe a few other general words like 'food' or 'person' or stuff like that. the lack of understanding of ANY general Chinese on her part just feels unrealistic. I'm sure that Mari's mother would've at least taught her a word or two over the years, and maybe after Mari's visit to china she would've taught her a few more words. I haven't watched the new season yet so idk if there's any new instance of her talking in Chinese but I doubt it bc of how little Chinese she ends up speaking in the main series anyway.

So beautiful, the art and story revision. You did a lovely job!

When you talked about how Marinette is not actually into Adrian and might not be proud of what she does I just thought of the line “You dont make me a good person”

I think that MLB could be a really good psychological horror because it has the yandere elements which could be amplified and marinettes stalkerish behaviour. The story would change slightly but I think it would work really well because instead of having 2 ‘personalities’, she could have three. The obsessive side, the superpowered side and the normal girl.