Low Angle Plane Shootout! What's the best value?

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Rex Krueger

Rex Krueger

Күн бұрын

Which low-angle jack plane is the best value? I check out planes by Stanley, Veritas, and Tay.
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@censusgary
@censusgary 4 жыл бұрын
Rex, I appreciate the fact that you decline to shill for tool companies, and you don’t accept gifts from them. I feel that it keeps your reviews and recommendations honest.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate that!
@oliverdelica2289
@oliverdelica2289 4 жыл бұрын
That's literally his trademark
@RainDog222222
@RainDog222222 4 жыл бұрын
@@oliverdelica2289 I do not think "literally" means what you think it means.
@g.pblack507
@g.pblack507 4 жыл бұрын
@@RainDog222222 Dont be pretentious. He was just complimenting Rex's channels honesty. You knew what he meant.
@rhc2670
@rhc2670 3 жыл бұрын
@@g.pblack507 Yes, he meant NOT "literally" but figuratively. And beyond all that, he was simply making a light-hearted joke...the literal opposite of pretentiousness. o:)
@ahgdubh3366
@ahgdubh3366 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always Rex. I would like to mention the two blade centring screws on the Veritas so it always feeds the blade straight with no twist when adjusting depth of cut. Incidentally, the Veritas low angle plane was the first brand new plane I ever purchased and I cried twice. Once for the cost, and then it was tears of joy when I first used it. I ran upstairs to show my wife the ultra thin shaving I made, like I was coming home from school with an A+ in math...
@johnbesharian9965
@johnbesharian9965 11 ай бұрын
Y'know, if you have a drill press you could always drill & tap the sides of the Stanley for hex socket set screws that will do exactly what the ones on the Veritas do. Just have them long enough to do the job, but not long enough to stick out above the surfaces of the sides when applying pressure so you can still use it on its side on a shooting board. Don't know what size set screws Veritas uses, but I'm sure you can figure it out.
@valueforvalue76
@valueforvalue76 4 жыл бұрын
Saved me the time buying the Taytools I appreciate that! Good humor in this video too!
@freddieg5080
@freddieg5080 4 жыл бұрын
I hit almost complete set of old Stanley bench plane and I love it every single one
@nixh6488
@nixh6488 4 жыл бұрын
Breakfast time, watching the vid. I get up to make a tea and my two year old in the background bellows " look daddy, a fairy! " made her morning Rex. Thank you for the great content
@steelpennyforge5152
@steelpennyforge5152 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. I love the no nonsense approach. Very well done. I am really new to hand tool wood working and this sure helps. thanks!
@sjbartho1
@sjbartho1 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and I appreciate your realist view of wood working. Many of your peers just use all the fancy tools we can’t afford or don’t have space for in our shop.
@psguardian
@psguardian 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanna say, in my research phase of setting up my first dedicated workspace I've circled back to a number of your vids multiple times. There's enough info in them that I am still picking up things on the subsequent rewatches. Also your brand of humor & blunt delivery helps.
@738polarbear
@738polarbear 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Veritas 62 1/2 LA Jack . It is an amazing piece of kit . Used it for 5 years now . it is practically my goto plane .Especially the PMV11 blade.
@kegergrim
@kegergrim 4 жыл бұрын
I have learned so much from your show. Especially about planes. Thank you. I also have a shop fairy that sings.
@clintonbeckway4171
@clintonbeckway4171 3 жыл бұрын
I use to do basic carpentry and wood working years ago, find your vids very entertaining, easy to watch and I have learnt afew things to, keep up the good work!
@ernestavey1216
@ernestavey1216 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rex. I was looking for a low angle and you helped me the most. I come to your site because I know you will give me the information I need straight up.
@Mark-EFMB-Combat-Medic
@Mark-EFMB-Combat-Medic 4 жыл бұрын
Rex, Thank you for the great video.....as a beginner woodworker, I appreciate the detailed information you consistently provide on your channel. I needed to get an additional, larger plane for larger projects (I only have one other plane, a TayTools low angle block plane) so I purchased the Stanley Low angle Jackplane that was part of your review, keeping my fingers crossed it would work well for my needs and I wouldn't be sorry I did not purchased the Veritas. The Sweetheart plane was not especially flat, but about 10 minutes of work on my diamond stones and it became "more flat" than it was before. LOL. I intentionally did not look at the edge on the really thick blade, because my OCD would have required me to sharpen it using my Veritas Jig. I made some cursory adjustments to the blade depth and straightness, then shoved it down a 1.5" piece of Birch and then a 1" thick scrap of Padouk. The ease and quality of the cut was much better than I had hoped for. The sound when planning was like a sheet of computer paper being sliced by a plane blade or chisel when I am drinking beer showing my friends, wife or anyone that will listen, how sharp my hand tools are. That sound was and continues to be, music to my ears. Anyway, thank you for pointing out how good this plane is.....especially for the money. Keep up the good work sir. Mark Nicholson Former, US Army - EFMB, Combat Medical Specialist 1/94 FA MLRS
@SOLT_Mark
@SOLT_Mark 4 жыл бұрын
I purchased the Veritas 62 over a year ago and it is just a joy to use every time I pick it up. Yes, it's on the pricey side but well worth it. I don't regret spending the money for one moment.
@oliverdelica2289
@oliverdelica2289 4 жыл бұрын
SO LT how bout the tool fairies? Aren't they a nuisance?
@markquinlan4876
@markquinlan4876 4 жыл бұрын
Rex, outstanding job. Thank you so much for the great, very well presented content. Ordered the Stanley from your link. I had been waiting and this video was the clincher for me. So, Thank You so much for your time and effort in putting out your content. Watched several and subscribed. Looking forward to following you moving forward. Thanks again and God Bless.
@MohammedNatheer
@MohammedNatheer 4 жыл бұрын
I am just in love with your videos, they are so real and practical, thank you
@What_Other_Hobbies
@What_Other_Hobbies 3 жыл бұрын
I finally bought sweetheart low angle jack plane last week, and sharpened the blade over the weekend. I am in love with this plane. When I glued up my bench top, I did not pay attention to grain direction, and they are all over the place. This plane eats it as breakfast.
@johnkelley9877
@johnkelley9877 4 жыл бұрын
Great and helpful review. Thanks for taking the time and effort to share this.
@upsidedowndog1256
@upsidedowndog1256 4 жыл бұрын
I always learn something new watching your videos, even if its not your topic!
@MichaelRoss-omtaretutare
@MichaelRoss-omtaretutare 4 жыл бұрын
I picked up the Stanley SW No. 62 from Home Depot online for $113 shipping and tax included. Ordered Jan 1, received on Jan 3. Just tried it out. This plane is great. It bears repeating - this plane is great. Thank you Rex!
@michaelmcdermott2178
@michaelmcdermott2178 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the advice. Bought the Stanley and works fine.
@TheNashville2
@TheNashville2 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Rex, my stanley has just been delivered today! thanks from england
@FearsomeWarrior
@FearsomeWarrior 3 жыл бұрын
Set quirky factor to 1000! All ahead full! Love this side of Rex.
@revrup
@revrup 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the humor (and wisdom).
@Mikey__R
@Mikey__R 3 жыл бұрын
Veritas make some stunning tools! I love everything I've bought of theirs.
@jwkjohnston7512
@jwkjohnston7512 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rex, another fine and informative video
@DinkDink
@DinkDink 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your objective, no punches pulled reviews. I used to buy old Stanleys and tune them as users. When I got my first veritas plane, the low angle jack, I had the same reservations as you, worrying I’d scratch it if I looked at it sideways. That quickly gave way to it being the first plane I reached for even when I didn’t need a plane... Non of the Stanleys I own are as much a joy to use, or perform as well. They are slowly getting replaced one by one with veritas planes because imho that extra price is worth it. Just my 2 cents.
@klausschleicher523
@klausschleicher523 8 ай бұрын
Similar story in my small workshop. I had planes from Dictum which are a good start into handtool woodworking. After I could use a friends No. 7 low angel from Veritas I started to replace my planes from Dictum. As Rex and you said, at the beginning I'm very carefully with the Veritas planes, but after some time I use them without thinking about the price. ;-)
@jeffdutton1910
@jeffdutton1910 4 жыл бұрын
I own a Veritas low angle jack plane and I absolutely love it. I salt money away, then try to make my big-dollar purchases at a show, when they offer a little bit of a discount. I have not so much as a moment's regret about spending the money.
@davidsmeall5363
@davidsmeall5363 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent display. Tks
@joeframer9642
@joeframer9642 4 жыл бұрын
First video of yours I’ve seen. Interesting. If I was a professional woodworker, I’d buy the best. But being a weekend warrior, my Stanley Sweat heart collection of planes and chisels suits me well...no complaints.
@brainwashingdetergent4322
@brainwashingdetergent4322 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Patreon’s! I’m not sure how many more channels I can support!
@oranaomi
@oranaomi 3 жыл бұрын
Wow what a great and thoughtful review. Rex, you’re an ally to woodworkers with less of a budget! If I spring for any tools I’ll be sure to try and go through any affiliate links you might have. Thanks again!
@TheDevnul
@TheDevnul 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent review.
@trevorb5978
@trevorb5978 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your plane videos. I have been a woodworker all my life and have a large collection of planes. Still a few gaps that I want to fill including a low angle jack
@Obi1kenobi10
@Obi1kenobi10 3 жыл бұрын
THIS is the review I was looking for!!!! THANK YOU!!!!
@noblegreen2692
@noblegreen2692 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, I love the comedy in these videos
@jbiggysmyth7320
@jbiggysmyth7320 2 жыл бұрын
excellent video.
@slick8086
@slick8086 4 жыл бұрын
Great shootout. I think you covered the relevant range just great.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kevinxxx8093
@kevinxxx8093 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE this video! It's one of my favorites.
@alimaleki217
@alimaleki217 3 жыл бұрын
Great review and hilarious to boot!
@johnss7754
@johnss7754 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks REx. Great video. Veritas makes lovely kit.
@RamanSingh-lj9wn
@RamanSingh-lj9wn 4 жыл бұрын
I was looking for a review on the Tay tools plane, I appreciate your vids
@Rustic_Nerd
@Rustic_Nerd 3 жыл бұрын
Good review, tool fairies...nice touch.
@Sig716
@Sig716 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative review on the Veritas. Have had only two Veritas planes from more than 12 years ago, now I “want” more Veritas!
@mikestewart505
@mikestewart505 2 жыл бұрын
I finally put in some OT at my day-job (actually night shift) and sprang for the Veritas. The price is comparable to Wood River or Lie Nielsen, but there are a variety of blades available, upon which to blow even more money. I haven't bought any extra blades, yet, but the plane itself has been a joy to use. I still want to buy a 5 1/2, someday, but this will serve nicely, for now, and I think it's versatility will be valuable even after I have all the bench planes I desire.
@Vman7757
@Vman7757 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. This is my first time even see one used. Looks like I should go for a Stanley. $150 will take sometime to get though. Thanks for sharing.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
It's only around 125 through amazon and less though Home Depot.
@Vman7757
@Vman7757 4 жыл бұрын
@@RexKrueger Must be on the web site for Home Depot. I will check it out. Or maybe my wife can get it for my for Christmas. Thanks.
@duvalbrice
@duvalbrice 4 жыл бұрын
I bought my stanley 62 a year ago after the same analysis and comparison with the premiums. A year ago you were saying that bevel up planes were luxury, and that bailey styles planes could do the same thing. Only the dumb one won't change his mind. Thank you for all your work and honest opinions. I never miss a video. Salutations from France
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
I still do think they're a luxury, but they sure are nice!
@ianpearse4480
@ianpearse4480 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I have been contemplating a low angle plane for a while now and think I might try the Axminster one or the Stanley so thanks again, keep up the good work. PS. We have Cornish Pixies over here and they do the same stuff but with more mischief.
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop 4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks. Mind you, I still really like my Marples bladed planes.
@stevem268
@stevem268 3 жыл бұрын
a veritas/lee valley loving new sub here! after decades of struggling with soso antiques, i broke down and bought a couple of veritas planes. angles sang and the earth moved. joking aside, one thing to remember is that veritas and lie nielson are both made in north america, L N in the us and veritas are made in canada. that is a big deal to me
@menoyuno8430
@menoyuno8430 3 жыл бұрын
perfect review
@kennethspeed2019
@kennethspeed2019 4 жыл бұрын
WOW! I was ready to send my Veritas back because it didn't play music! I'm glad you told us about the shop fairies! I can't say positively, but there are several blades available for the Veritas with different angles. It probable that one of those blades might have solved the tear out problem you had. The blades, of course, are not free. Veritas did another smart thing when they made their low angle smoothing plane in that they made it big enough to use all the same blades they make for their LA jackplane. Thanks for the video.
@murraypotts924
@murraypotts924 2 жыл бұрын
Ditto I have a collection of Veritas planes love em. Have no trouble plaining against the grain even in Western Australia Tuart with the correct blade angle that is sharp and throat closed to about 1/32 ". Tuart is notorious difficult to work.
@kennethspeed2019
@kennethspeed2019 2 жыл бұрын
@@murraypotts924 I'll take your word for the Tuart. I'd never even heard of it before. I think the Veritas L A jack is the only Veritas plane I own. In conventional planes, most of mine are made by Millers Falls. They are, for the most part, copies of Stanley planes although they have a better lever cap. Some, but not all have aftermarket blades. Lately. the plane I reach for first is the Miller's Falls No. 15 which is fifteen inches long and comparable to the Stanley no. 5 1/2. Millers Falls went out of business in the mid 1960s. I don't know if they were ever sold outside of the U.S. and Canada.
@Sasasa55555
@Sasasa55555 4 жыл бұрын
man, I love your channel. keep posting!
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
Will do!
@peterowens290
@peterowens290 3 жыл бұрын
Your handmade specimen looks "the goods", I would have expected it to be nearly as good as the Stanley. Love to know why it was so easily outclassed>
@kz.irudimen
@kz.irudimen 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you ever saw it but he also had a video where he compared his handmade plane to the Stanley: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrGlpaR9rayogH0.html
@createdezign1840
@createdezign1840 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid... Thankyou.
@stephenmcgeown
@stephenmcgeown Ай бұрын
Thanks for this review, Rex. I love the comparison methodology and I feel I can trust your independence and your track record in using hand tools. Based on your video, I just purchased the Stanley via your affiliate Home Depot link. This will be my first proper venture into hand planing!
@freddieg5080
@freddieg5080 4 жыл бұрын
Your right You shouldn’t get scared with the tools that you bought and not to put in display
@hotcurdsinyurmudder
@hotcurdsinyurmudder 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Taytools plane, it was my very first one. If I would’ve known when first starting out, that precision is just about EVERYTHING, I would’ve thought a little harder on that purchase. Don’t get me wrong, it works just fine. But everything about it is off. The sole wasn’t flat, sides not 90*, frog is crooked (drove me crazy until I figured out it was that and not my blade)... It’s good for roughing and stock removal. But getting everything true and flat and straight on that plane is wayyyyy more effort that what it’s worth. Honestly, you’ll thank yourself by buying more expensive tools. Don’t think you can get away with cheap, you’ll drive yourself friggin nuts.
@richardwbrown74
@richardwbrown74 3 жыл бұрын
Also! Heard about folks getting Stanley’s that were out of square…. So I bought 3 to return 2. 2 of these 3 happened to be out of square. (I’m assuming I just got unlucky with these 3 …or, barely lucky enough) …super happy with the 3rd!! … possibly a useful approach. Cheers!!
@jerryjohnsonii4181
@jerryjohnsonii4181 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Rex !!!!!!!!!!! I need to get one of those Stanley Low Angle Planes.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
I think you'll be happy if you do!
@DonsWoodies
@DonsWoodies 4 жыл бұрын
The shop fairies bit was priceless. LOL. Gotta admit that the first video of yours I watched was about a year or so ago. Didn't like your presentation back then, and it was a while before I bothered watching another one. I've definitely changed my mind, though. You kind of grew on me. :-) You have a very honest style that is very refreshing. Keep up the good work. I have the Veritas LA jack and love it. One very nice feature you didn't touch on was the tiny little screws at the front of the blade that keep that end of the blade able to go back in exactly the same side-to-side position when you put it back after sharpening. It's a small thing, but darn convenient and a genius move on their part. Great job comparing the planes, covering pretty much all the pertinent issues. I was surprised to see the Taytools was so bad. Always thought their stuff was supposed to be good.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I've converted you; I know my style isn't for everyone!
@richardsteven3935
@richardsteven3935 3 жыл бұрын
Best plane I've used, can so much with them.
@robertbamford8266
@robertbamford8266 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thorough review. Got me off the fence.
@scoobshagg
@scoobshagg 4 жыл бұрын
Honest review, pesky fairies, and good humor. What more could a viewer want.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
Nudity? Nah, probably not.
@justinrippetoe466
@justinrippetoe466 2 жыл бұрын
I just got my factory seconds veritas LA Jack...was SUPER disappointed until I realized I wasn't shooting, but then Jones it to the York bevel and absolutely love it. 11/10. Great video as always!
@alext8828
@alext8828 Жыл бұрын
What are you saying and you is this Jones person?
@justinrippetoe466
@justinrippetoe466 Жыл бұрын
@@alext8828 over a year ago I got my veritas low angle jack plane and was initially unsatisfied until I *honed* it to a 38° "York" bevel and it's worked wonderfully ever since.
@jackspratt7795
@jackspratt7795 4 жыл бұрын
I don't have the time or desire to rebuild old stuff and try to make it work again so dragging and old Stanly or whatever out of the trash and make it work is out of the question for me. That said I tried the Veritas at the Woodworkers Show 3 or 4 times and never got to use one that some kid hadn't tried to plane the concrete floor and twisted every adjustment on it to the point that they were like the Stanly in the trash pile. I did get to a hand tool event last spring to see the Lie-Nielsen. Everything was sharp, set up and there was someone there who was a woodworker (not someone from accounting) to help you try anything. I fell in love with the Lie-Nelsen 62 and bought it on the spot. When it was delivered I pulled it out of the box and wiped off the excess oil, flattened the back of the blades ( less than 60 seconds each) honed a primary bevel on a blade, put it in the plane and it was working as beautifly in my shop as it did at the show. that's worth the extra money to me.
@VinlandAlchemist
@VinlandAlchemist 4 жыл бұрын
I *so* loved this video - totally freakin' brilliant!! :) And you had me laughin' me arse off in bits, too LOL
@aadelgado77
@aadelgado77 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rex! Very good video. You have a really good channel.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@freddieg5080
@freddieg5080 4 жыл бұрын
Good video buddy
@johnheaney3349
@johnheaney3349 4 жыл бұрын
1. As stated in another comment, you get a new blade and hone it at a higher angle and you, essentially, have a new plane. Don't buy the higher angle blades. Just get the standard 25 degree blade and hone it at 33 for an effective 45 degree angle. Get another and hone it at 45 for a high angle (52). Get one of the toothed blades for really difficult grain. 2. Veritas has a set of low angle planes: jack, jointer and smoother. They all use the same blades, so get the whole set. Set up each of the three blades at different angles (low, standard, high) and you really have nine planes. 3. You never talked about the side set screws. I use them to make super fine adjustments to the side to side angle of the blade. It's much finer than using the Norris adjuster, so you can get the blade perfectly parallel to the mouth. And then it keeps it from moving, which is really important when skewing the plane. 4. Get the PMV blades! 5. Seriously? You're afraid to use an expensive tool? What's up with that? An extra $100 over the course of 10 years is $10 a year. That's seat cushion money. The old woodworker saying is, "Get your second tool first because you're going to get it anyway." Get the most expensive tool you can afford. You won't regret it.
@glenfreyermuth2972
@glenfreyermuth2972 2 жыл бұрын
Such a true statement (2nd tool 1st)!!! Then substitute "best" for "most expensive" and you've nailed it. Most expensive is not always the best.
@stevetobias4890
@stevetobias4890 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Rex, was looking at buying one of these and was wondering if the Stanley was worth it. Thank you.
@bobclapper2672
@bobclapper2672 Жыл бұрын
Thank You !
@sussexseaangler1858
@sussexseaangler1858 3 жыл бұрын
A fun amd honest review. I have never usrd s low angle plane once , but i watched the whole review because it was SO WATCHABLE! Don't think i will buy one though!
@hasanzakeri8708
@hasanzakeri8708 4 жыл бұрын
Halfway watching the video and I was struggling to finish the video first and then give my compliments!! Gret video, and one of the best reviews I have seen on KZfaq! To the point, comprehensive, professional, and unbiased!! Thanks a lot! I also enjoyed the singing fairies! I have tried maybe 6-7 different new Stanley planes, and I think the bevel up is by far the best. I agree that it cannot be the only plane, and one plane cannot do it all, but you can have extra blades to handle the tricky tasks: one for scrubbing and another with a secondary (very) high angle to do surfacing might make this an only plane. Just a thought. The casting on the other plane can be milled again, to turn it into a Norris adjuster, but why go to the trouble if you can return it!
@jimcarter4929
@jimcarter4929 4 жыл бұрын
Again, I want to know where to get spare blade? No luck for me on the Stanley 62.
@jimcarter4929
@jimcarter4929 4 жыл бұрын
Just looked at home depot site and they list blade number, but not in stock at Stanley. I wonder if other manufacturers blade would work.
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you enjoyed this video! I cover blade switching in a previous video.
@stefaneriksson9634
@stefaneriksson9634 4 жыл бұрын
About tear out. The beaty of a bevel up plane is that you can grind the bevel to a steeper angle that better handles irregular wood. Better yet, get another blade so you can have both. And off course, Veritas sells blades that comms pre ground at different angles. And as always, an entertaining an educational video Rex!
@ardvarkkkkk1
@ardvarkkkkk1 4 жыл бұрын
Stefan Eriksson And while you are screwing around with different bevels, setting etc, I just readjust the cap iron on my bevel down Stanley and continue on.
@blahorgaslisk7763
@blahorgaslisk7763 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Rex covered the use of blades ground at different angles in a previous video. It's an interesting way to get more use out of a tool, and I can see how the rigidity of the plane could make a difference in how well that works.
@johndoe920
@johndoe920 4 жыл бұрын
@@ardvarkkkkk1 the whole point of this argument is that technically you don't need to buy an additional smoothing plane if you have the low angle jack and instead just get a second blade, to do the job of both planes at a lot less cost.
@ardvarkkkkk1
@ardvarkkkkk1 4 жыл бұрын
@@johndoe920 Point is, unless you want a different camber, there is no need to change blades on a bevel down plane.
@johndoe920
@johndoe920 4 жыл бұрын
@@ardvarkkkkk1 except if you need a bigger plane for jointing, or if you need a plane for shooting, or if you want and even smoother finish with less tear out than you get from 45°, because you can just aswell get an attack angle of over 50° on a bevel up.
@skilletborne
@skilletborne 3 ай бұрын
Part of the selling point to making, upgrading, and restoring tools to me is the fearlessness I could have spent 120 euros on a new set of Spear and Jackson saws, but I know I wouldn't have done the set up on them because I'd be scared. I just bought those same three saws at auction for 12 euros in a crusty gross state, and with a little set-up they're cutting better than any saw I've ever handled!
@therealzilch
@therealzilch 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Lie-Nielson and am happy with it, but I must admit that I do the big work with big old wooden-bodied jack planes picked up at the flea market for peanuts and fixed up.
@neilstutely3147
@neilstutely3147 2 жыл бұрын
I've got the stanley sweetheart low angle jack and a veritas low angle smoother and I'd agree with both assessments of the the tools. Obviously the veritas smoother is slightly different from the jack, not so good for edging boards for example, but still everything else holds up.
@RYwoodview
@RYwoodview 4 ай бұрын
Recently bought the Stanley, which arrived perfect in every way. No wonder that TayTools no longer sells a low-angle jack plane!
@tonylenge424
@tonylenge424 4 жыл бұрын
I thought this was an excellent video. Thanks
@Jamestorn48
@Jamestorn48 4 жыл бұрын
Welp, finally bought the Stanly. 150 was a bit much considering the only other plane I have was 8 bucks at a flea market but I'm hoping it fills some holes the smother cant. Great video, thanks for the advice I think the only thing I'd really want plane wise is a decent pointer!
@corymiller9854
@corymiller9854 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I am in need of my first plane well I do have a mini Stanley that I got for $5 from lowes. It actually works ok if you tighten the screw with a tool but not by hand. I will probably go with the Veritas since I am trying to make just one plane work for all my tasks. I tend to agree with you about a tool is meant to grab and work without worrying about it. I have chipped my good axe and my good spoon gouge but they still work great:] I like Stanley but there quality is not what it once was and cheap tools is there bread and butter. Ty Dewalt or whoever owns them now.
@jimbryant2157
@jimbryant2157 4 жыл бұрын
I have recently gotten into using hand planes and I have to admit that I must also have an infestation of Shop fairies. I think my fairies have been hypnotizing me with the 'shiny object' - the Veritas (or Lee Nielsen) low angle jack plane. After watching your video I will have to reconsider and do more tool shopping (it's the ONLY kind of shopping I like!!! :). Thanks for the honest (as always) review.
@mikestewart505
@mikestewart505 Жыл бұрын
My only Taytools plane is a small router, and it pretty well persuaded me not to buy any more Taytools planes. But, I love doing business with them for almost anything else. Well, you know, sometimes Harbor Freight is good enough. But Taylor sells a lot of things--machinists' squares, straight edges, calipers and such that are just fine at a really good price, and some things, like Wood Owl auger bits and Narex chisels that are excellent.
@andrewmazurkiewicz105
@andrewmazurkiewicz105 Жыл бұрын
The Veritas. It's a great plane and if you want the best it's well priced. Of course you can get by with something else, I've got an ancient stanley no5 that I got 35 years ago with a samurai japanese plane iron which is well set up and nearly as good but I instinctivly go for the veritas even for small jobs, it just feels right and works great. I'll have to check which iron i've got in it because it keeps it's edge and doesn't need regular sharpening (i'll get back on this as i bought a few different blades to see which one worked best for me)
@kencarlile1212
@kencarlile1212 3 жыл бұрын
I have the Veritas, and I really like it. But I don't know how to use it well. The homemade one is really pretty, though!
@chrischristenson4547
@chrischristenson4547 4 жыл бұрын
impressive I built a bench for my son last year my good friend Paul may like this one
@deejaymutley
@deejaymutley 4 жыл бұрын
I own the Veritas low angle jack plane and it was worth the money. Guaranteed perfection out of the box. I read so many reviews on Stanley that say that the sole was not square to the sides or that the sole was not flat. I don't want to pay for money for something that isn't guaranteed perfect.
@davidstorer4706
@davidstorer4706 2 жыл бұрын
Liam Cunningham ... you can't deal with basic English spelling. I'm very doubtful about the value of your review. Discounted.
@deejaymutley
@deejaymutley 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidstorer4706 is your comment suppose to mean anything to me? Do you feel special now you've posted it?
@nalretrac2403
@nalretrac2403 2 жыл бұрын
As I understand it, you can get a high bevel angle blade for the Veritas that makes it perform better at dealing with highly figured woods. I'm thinking about buying the Veritas with two blades, a high bevel and a standard bevel.
@eo1scwmwf
@eo1scwmwf 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your comparison. Home Depot is cheaper. I may have to get one of them soon, just have to get the kitchen pass.
@coreycollins5702
@coreycollins5702 4 жыл бұрын
I can highly recommend the Veritas #5 low angle jack plane with PMV-11 blades. Buy once, cry once.
@richardpatterson4312
@richardpatterson4312 3 жыл бұрын
Until your roof leaks and you have to de-rust your cast iron table tops... it was a brand new roof. They didn't install the plumbing vent properly.
@jessegimbel
@jessegimbel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video Rex. I'm in the market for one of these, and as you mentioned the Tay caught my eye just because of the look and the price, so happy I saw this video before buying. I'll likely end up with the Stanley, but I'll see if I can swing the Veritas. There's also the Lie Nielsen, but it looks like it might be similar to the Stanley but at the Veritas' price. When I buy I'll do it through your affiliate link, thanks for taking the time to make this video!
@blarghblargh
@blarghblargh 3 жыл бұрын
Your approach to not buying expensive planes is the same as my approach to not buying expensive guitars. If my guitars can't get dinged a bit, I don't really want to take them out and play them. My most "expensive" one is $1100, and came the way I wanted it to (plus setup, of course). The rest of them were 300-500, and I didn't feel bad throwing a bunch of customization on top, and even doing some myself.
@mikeking7470
@mikeking7470 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Rex I found two versions of the Stanley low angle jack on Amazon, one for $112.00 (1-12-137) and another for $149.99 (12-137). Both are labeled No.62. Home Depot is out. And I found a photo of an old No. 62 that had a cap like the Veritas.
@tomjkelleher
@tomjkelleher 4 жыл бұрын
Shop fairies, WD40... 🤣 Thank you for the very helpful review, and the laugh!
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
Glad to add a smile to yr day!
@frenstcht
@frenstcht 4 жыл бұрын
If I buy a shirt for work, I can't wear it to work because I'm afraid of messing it up. Even if it cost $5 at a big box. Because my job gives me access to highly-figured wood at cost, I got talked into getting a Lie-Nielsen #5 with a 55* pitch. I've got no anxiety about it at all. For an extra hundred bucks... Christopher Schwarz, in one of his blogs, said that he worked for years with nothing but a #5 -- roughing, jointing, and smoothing. I'm still a hand-tool newbie, but if I had a time machine, I'd just have a premium jack plane and a card scraper. FWIW...which ain't much.
@schm4704
@schm4704 4 жыл бұрын
13:00 The good news is that the Veritas is ductile iron, so it's even better at getting bumped into things since it won't crack. 😃
@RexKrueger
@RexKrueger 4 жыл бұрын
That is a good point!
@LegoMan-cz4mn
@LegoMan-cz4mn 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yes thank you! I may rest now haha
@yoyopg123
@yoyopg123 4 жыл бұрын
That's an excellent point Lap Joint. The other thing you get with Veritas (and Lie-Nielsen) is their legendary customer service. I've had Lee Valley send me out replacements parts for things that "I" broke for free - they even picked up the shipping. I was prepared to purchase them and they just sent them out gratas. Also, there are no better people on the planet to work with on the phone. I also had a LN No. 9 Miter plane that I loved and used it on a utility bench I was making. I went to town planing down a leg and thought I was encountering a little too much resistance with a knot hole. It turns out I wasn't. It was actually the tip of a screw that had protruded above the leg surface and I put about 4 or 5 DEEP scratches along the length of the sole of the plane before I realize my idiocy. I almost fainted when I turned it over. I contacted Lie Nielsen to see if I could pay them to surface grind the sole for me. They said no problem. Two weeks later got an email from them saying that the scratches were too deep and regrinding would weaken its structural integrity. They also said they replaced the whole plane (for FREE) and I should be receiving it UPS within a day or two. I couldn't believe it 1) because of their generosity and 2) because by that time they had stopped making that plane. They must have pulled it out of the private reserve or something. So there are some advantages to paying more and patronizing those companies.
@LegoMan-cz4mn
@LegoMan-cz4mn 4 жыл бұрын
@@yoyopg123 nice story Paul, I do also think good tools are worth investing in. I don't think the hassle of setup and the constant setup is worth some cheap tools
@watermain48
@watermain48 4 жыл бұрын
@@yoyopg123 I had a similar experience with the customer service folks at Stanley. I bought one of their SW No. 4 smoothing planes and it came with a chip breaker that wasn't up to par. I called them and they sent me out a whole new blade set at no charge. The big boys aren't always the only ones with good service. Just sayin'...
@scottsaunders8024
@scottsaunders8024 3 жыл бұрын
The trick to the low angle, bevel up format is to have two or more irons: one ground to the standard 25° and another ground to a higher angle for difficult grain. I have my high angle ground to about 35°.
@k4kfh
@k4kfh 4 жыл бұрын
I had a feeling that Stanley might come out ahead. Somebody at Stanley was definitely on their game designing that thing, it is an excellent "built to a price, but built well" tool. And I agree, Veritas has some really cool stuff, but the fact that they want $50 for a simple cast iron chisel plane (NOT including the chisel!) feels less like buying a tool and more like buying a collectible... Keep up the good work Rex!
@NCharlesworth86
@NCharlesworth86 4 жыл бұрын
That used to be Stanley's DNA, hopefully they churn out some more stuff like this.
@jonwnter688
@jonwnter688 4 жыл бұрын
Lie Nielsen #62 low angle jack plane is the top of the heap. I'm from Canada, and Veritas is a Canadian company, so it saddens me to say that an American tool company is superior, but the truth of the matter is that it is.
@MichaelEdelman1954
@MichaelEdelman1954 4 жыл бұрын
Jon Wınter very true. I own old Stanleys, many Veritas saws and planes, and a few Lie Nielsen tools. They win.
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