OMG Rhodas white dress and the flower in her hair STUNNING

I absolutely love the off-white sundress Rhoda wears in this episode. It's so flattering and one of the best things she wore throughout the entire series. It stands the test of time in that it would be considered stylish even by today's standards.

Valerie looked beautiful here. I hated the final seasons when she got the curly perm. Valerie was just a classic brunette beauty. And so lovable

Rhoda's clothes in this episode are amazing! 😍 I LOVE that white outfit and the black coat with the gold fringe! You could wear that white dress today.

$650 in 1977 is worth $2,753.27 today. Not bad Brenda!! Ida stole Brenda's thunder 2x in a row 😂

I just love the interaction between Ida and Jack Doyle ....the dialogue between them is great to watch ......two strong characters together.....wow

Ida was horrible to Brenda by claiming the berries and the money. Shame on her

Nancy looks so cute, I love her new style this season.

Did anyone else cringe in fear when Ida stood on the drawers to reach the top cabinet? So dangerous!

6:17 Ron Silver was incredibly cute... perfect casting of Gary Levy. I keep reading comments though from people who thought Gary was a drip. I wish he and Brenda would've shacked up and eventually married. Benny was as interesting as a cow eating grass. And what did he do for a living? He was a tollbooth operator! Good benefits from the state of NY anyway...lol

Love that Nancy Walker as Ida! A pro and oh-so-funny!

Rhoda just gave me an idea. Look into an employment agency. I never thought of that. The pandemic left me unemployed but I also hate what I used to do and I just don't know what to do with my life anymore.

Wow! This brings back memories of my childhood! Never ever thought I'd see these again! Thanks so much for opening a window into that long distant past!

Valerie Harper and Nancy Walker were perfect working together.

The first 16 seconds of this season's theme song at the beginning of the program are gangsta! I didn't expect it. Pleasant surprise!

I love this show 🍎then and now .. Thank You James L Brooks ❤️☮️

I love my mom, but she drove me nuts, like Ida. Gary is a good friend. Love Rhoda's white dress.

I like that they developed a secret sisterly knock to announce themselves which I hear as a “badum bump” , like a punchline rim shot.

Rhoda wouldn't be the same without Carlton the doorman, he cracks me up!!!! Too bad we don't ever get to meet him on the show!!

At this point Valerie & Julie were beyond "70's skinny"...its sad that it never ends for women. 90's "heroin chic", even today, look at leading ladies compared to leading men. The women have to be youthful & beautiful, the men can have "dad bod's", be "ruggedly handsome" or fucking 70 & its all cool & matches in our society.😐 Next life, I'm a man again.

Bringing in the Lou Grant -- OOPS -- Jack Doyle character to this series was an act of pure originality.

In the Mary Tyler Moore Show Rhonda always thought she was fat, Ida always seemed to instill that thought into both Rhoda and Brenda's minds. I think there both beautiful and indeed never fat. In this episode Rhoda looks stunning in that white dress.

RIP valerie Harper

Season 4 ran through 1977 - 1978. I was 10 and going on 11. Remember like yesterday.

9:00 Nancy Walker was THE one and only one to play Ida Morgenstern. I remember reading in some book or other that "it would be hard to imagine anyone else playing the part." And she played it off and on for 8 years, having been introduced in one of the first episodes of MTMS. They invented the character surprisingly early in that show...really a work of genius on the part of Brooks/Burns (and perhaps Treva Silverman?)

Love show family is everything 1/24/2021 I'm very grateful !!!

Anyone else think Rhoda is too skinny here? Her head looks skeletal. And the way her hair is back from her face makes her look like she's starting to look like Ida, somehow... She looked better when she had more curves and was less bony looking. But why are they still keeping Brenda in figure-hiding clothes, all baggy? Are we still supposed to believe she's grossly overweight? (I never believed Rhoda was 'fat' on MTM - just wearing 'fat clothes').

$650 a month hee hee, now you can't even get a tiny room for that in Manhattan

They loved the word terrific

$650 in 1977 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $3,278.86 today, an increase of $2,628.86 over 46 years. The dollar had an average inflation rate of 3.58% per year between 1977 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 404.44%.

Love Jack Doyle and the start of all this!

Wow, $650 a month in 1977... In 2020, $650 a week isn't nearly enough with inflation increasing..... The dollar bill went a long way back then....

The music is just all over the place. They can't decide what mood, except they can't give up the disco bass guitar...

Glad we can go online now. I remember those days, glad we got more advancement now.💥🙂

Rhoda sure had her hair in different ways during those 5 seasons. On this ep, Rhoda acts like she is doing urgent work as a scientist...she just does windows for stores. To me, it'd be boring. Brenda looks her best in this ep, her hair is the ideal style, for her. Ida is kinda crappy toward Brenda while they are all at Rhoda's apt.

I love Carlton the Doorman!

Imagine my surprise when I saw more than the three episodes you had last year. YOUPPY! Thank you. :)

The two of them lost so much weight and looked even more beautiful!

Rhoda stole her sister's happy moment by lamenting about her own issues. Classic "conversation take over".

Nancy Walker is a gem and looks great in that blue outfit. A Jewish Mother who is hilarious, loving and caring! Rhoda looks so beautiful in this episode. Brenda shined through the whole series. They were my family in the 70's.

For someone out of work, she sure has nice clothes, and still has her own apt., for not having earned much money. That's tv for ya. Rhoda is acting about like Brenda did when she quit her job and couldn't get another for awhile, except Rhoda didn't eat bags of candy. I liked Jack when Rhoda worked for him.

Super cute house coat

I've never understood why Rhoda gets up to open the door for Brenda when it's unlocked.

On the Season 4 closing theme, the guitar intro sounds like "Cruel To Be Kind" mixed with "Crazy On You"

Why did they take away her business she was doing good after her divorce..

Thank you soooooo much. I love this show. You are the best.

I lived in Manhattan for 20 years, and my apartment building for a couple of those years was the tall building (which can be seen in some of the shots) behind the apartment building they use for where Rhoda/Brenda live. I used to walk by their faux address (which is actually on East 84th Street (not the 332 West 64th given by the characters).

a young Ron Silver .wow

1972 wage was .35 cents per hour; 1974 wages were 50 cents per hour! Brenda was making good money!

The MTM show ran during my high school/early college years, and I can still recall the thrill of hearing those first three bass notes of the MTM theme at the beginning of each episode. I loved Valerie Harper as Rhoda, and I really missed her when she left for her own series. Mary was such an optimistic "Everyman" type of character, but Rhoda was a humorous shot of cynical reality that counterbalanced her perfectly. I watched this series occasionally, especially the first couple seasons, but it struggled to find its footing and just never quite found that perfect balance, imho. However, Valerie Harper, Julie Kavner, and Nancy Walker were each wonderful in their roles. I could especially relate to Kavner's character - I am such a Brenda (I also loved the work Kavner did with Tracey Ullman - which was also where she first became Marge Simpson). Was this the first episode of this series directed by Cheers' James Burrows? There was so much talent involved with this show.

$650 was worth $2,753 in 1977. Brenda made about $688 a week.

❤️This was the best version of the intro tune from Rhoda.

Back when we could use an actual phone book and get somewhere in life, unlike today with the stupid internet!!!!!

So $600 in the mid 70’s was approximately $3300. In New York that’s really crappy pay 🤣

Carlton was so messy. We had doormen/women like that and they allways knew everyone's business

Never saw this one....pretty good

25:04 That is what the back of a dancer looks like.

$650 per month was likely a lot of dough back then.

The fat jokes made me cringe! Very cheap laughs in this episode. I'll keep watching anyway because I love Rhoda and Brenda (and Gary).

wow Rhoda in a tube top! :-)

They did this exact same premise when Brenda was out of work in Season 2.

Ida is getting on my nerves!!!!

"Empty bush." That's right, it WAS the 1970s after all.

7:03.... Yeah, i feel that in my soul....😆

That box of cereal at the 7:25 mark seems to have a life of its own.

Create an opportunity!!!

This is actually a close to MTM episode when she got fired from the department store in Minneapolis

I always wondered if the writers were thinking about a possible romance between Rhoda's new boss and Ida (particularly after Martin left her the following season). Their interactions were always funny, and there was something endearing, even with the insults they traded back and forth. I wonder, if the show hadn't been so abruptly canceled the following season, if they might have gone that route.

Notice the red n blue suit hanging up was the one, Brenda's flatmate wore earlier

So, skinny single Rhoda meets Lou Grant ripoff? that's so Mary Tyler Moore :/

First appearance of Jack Doyle (Kenneth McMillan).

I want the dress Rhoda is wearing when she goes into Doyle’s to try to get a job.

I was watching MTM last night and in the episode called Rhoda morgenstern it says she has a big job set up at Bloomingdale's what happened to that....

The whole scene where Rhoda goes into the shop where she breaks a heel on her shoe, starts crying, negotiates with the manager, talks about perverted men, then gets hired on the spot is straight out of Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, 1975

"I will shoot the first person who doesn't hold his breath for 5 minutes!'' ROFL

I never understoood why Rhoda was a window dresser for twelve years. It really sounds like a dead-end job. I don't get the constant drawing and designing. Shouldn't she be more hands-on and quick about being creative while she's at the job site? It never came across as a realistic occupation for someone with a Manhattan apartment. Are we supposed to believe that small businesses would actually hire someone to decorate their windows? Most people who own a small business struggle financially; they would HAVE to decorate their own windows. And larger businesses would definitely find someone among their employees who could decorate windows. It was fine in Minneapolis, I suppose, when Rhoda was younger; but the writers should have changed her occupation when she moved to New York City. She could have remained an artist, but in some other capacity. Perhaps a creative consultant in an advertising firm.

Valerie looked better when she had a few more pounds on her...she's too skinny here.

No phone books in 2022. Lol.

Strange music. I think I actually liked last season's better.

Just struck me , Ida is a horrible manipulative you-know-what

Nice sister.

I never liked this turn in her career. She built that business from nothing and then just gives it up? She may have been a window dresser for 12 years, but an entrepreneur for only 3 years.

The start of the theme music sounds too much like a 70s detective series, not like a comedy. And, yes, Valerie was too thin.

She never really started going out. After her divorce. She never started really going out with any men.

Horrible writing in this one. The whole notion of Ida coming to harass Rhoda's new employer is absurd. That whole last segment was a waste of space. What does it mean she'd buy him lunch and he could buy her a car? What does that even mean?

I continue to love this series but I just want to add my two cents - I hate the cheap soft focus and sad opening they came up with this season and that music. It’s all terribly out of focus and Harper looks emaciated. I hate to think of the pressure on her to diet and to lose all that weight. Same with Brenda but she doesn’t look quite as unhealthy. Valerie Harper’s natural figure was fuller from the waist down with a thin face and smaller breasted. But now she looks unhealthy with sunken eyes.

Genuinely asking because I didn't experience life in this time period.... The costumes in the shop always seemed incredibly creepy to me. Actually, Jack's entire shop seems absolutley creepy and horrifying to me. Is this just the style of costumes in the 1970s, or are the costumes in Jack's shop supposed to be low grade to help set the scene? Also was the shop supposed to be a bit dark and dingy looking to help set the tone/stage? Or is this a nice shop for the 70s?

Bad economy, viva la carter! , that 🦕🐍🦎😡!

Rhoda would be homeless in today's overpriced NYC

Kenneth McMillan was inspired as Lou Grant...er, Jack Doyle, and a perfect foil for Rhoda.

Ida Morgenstern is a force of nature

What happened to this show? Rhoda was becoming a, more and more, confrontational, shrewish, complaining and whiny character. It's hard at times to watch the anger and aggressiveness that she displayed. I still enjoy some of the reruns, but I am getting very irritated, and tired of watching it at times. Why did the writers of this show decide to take this road? Rhoda used to be a much more likable character, in the beginning of this series and also on the MTM show. The way she attacked Jack, in this episode, and called him rude, and stupid, is ridiculous. She's the rude and stupid one. Totally over the top, especially since she's the one asking him for a favor and a job.I would have thrown her out on her ear. It's unrealistic as well. No normal person would act this way. It's supposed to be funny, but it's not.

I never like when Rhoda change jobs. I thought it was very dull. It shame she gave up her window dressing job.

NOT a fan of Ida