Rim depth? What is the best rim depth?

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Rim depth? What is the best rim depth?

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In this video we will discuss the different bicycle rim depths. We will discuss their advantages and disadvantages.
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@jeffreyalexander1078 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for talking about the compliance that spoke length offers. I think it's overlooked as a factor

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 2 жыл бұрын

You bet!

@astrayagrarian 9 ай бұрын

Totally agree! Hardly anyone ever mentions this when talking about wheel builds.

@jmaldonadonl 2 ай бұрын

I have 30-day trial on Scope S4 (45mm depth) set and was considering to change them to the S5 (55mm depth) model. I have several considerations now after watching your very transparent explanation, so I may keep the S4 ones.

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 2 ай бұрын

Wow 30 day trial! That's cool! In a perfect world you should have all the rim depths and change them out based on the ride/race/event or weather conditions. I have low profile, 38mm, 46mm, 60mm and several other wheels. It's another reason why I have no desire to switch to disc brakes I mean switching to discs is NOT an upgrade anyway but that's just my opinion.

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 2 ай бұрын

thanks for watching please consider subscribing!

@gilbertinni4018 Жыл бұрын

Simple and straight to the point 🙌

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

Thank you Gilbert I appreciate you watching. Please consider subscribing.

@gilbertinni4018 Жыл бұрын

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad already did👊

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

@@gilbertinni4018 Thank You Thank You i really appreciate your subscription!

@NP-kc5qd Жыл бұрын

Hi George, Had the Hed Jet 6 rear and Jet 4 front Clydesdale build, too stiff and needed Valve extender for rear wheel. Also rear wheel needed to be static balanced to get rid of vibration from long stem at high speeds. Good wheelset for racing, but happy to have sold that bike and back on 30mm alloy wheels, simple 40mm stem tubes happy days:) Thank you for this video. Subbed👍

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

Hello NP - are you a heavier rider? Clydesdale 24/28 build can be quite stout for a light to medium weight rider. Yes it’s a nuisance to have to keep track of all the different valve stem lengths in your tool kit! 😂 right now I carry 80 mm so 1. I can service any of my wheels on the road then swap out to the appropriate length when I get home (OCD 😂) 2. I can give a tube to just about 80% of the riders stranded on the side of the road.

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and thank you for the sub!!

@NP-kc5qd Жыл бұрын

Yes, I’m in the 200-230lbs weight range, that’s why ordered that build. Smart that you carry the 80mm tube. I ran 40mm Silca latex tubes needing extenders. Loving your videos, I hit the like button to send some love your way! Greetings from New York

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

@@NP-kc5qd thank you very much. The KZfaq algorithm needs to know when I have posted quality contact. Thank you for your support.

@woodsdavid2887 Жыл бұрын

Very timely video for my present situation, and some sound thoughts presented. Cheers from [windy] Japan.

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

Thank You for watching from Japan 🇯🇵 Did you get your questions answered? Let me know if you require something in particular for your situation. Please consider subscribing

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

I’m curious how did you find this video? What was your search criteria?

@woodsdavid2887 Жыл бұрын

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Hi George. Your video just popped up in my feed. I've been watching a few videos lately about rim depth so I guess KZfaq's algorithm picked up on it. I'm riding a 2020 Giant TCR SL2 with stock rims ー my first road bike ー and I'm considering a change in wheels. The local terrain is fairly hilly and wind is a factor especially in the colder months. Lots of factors at play.

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

@@woodsdavid2887 ah yes KZfaq picked up on your search terms. Thank You for the feedback. For hilly terrain and windy conditions I prefer to stay below 40 mm rim depth. I weigh 68 kg (150 lbs). I might have mentioned in the video I do a lot of things while on the go, no-handed. I do not like to always have my hands glued to the handlebar. That’s why I like a shallower rim depth than most riders. I also think people like to put deep section wheels on their bike , 60 mm and above, because of the aesthetics. They want the bike to look “pro”. But then they are fighting those high dollar, inappropriately deep, and dare I say eye-sore wheels, in the crosswinds. They regret their purchase but they don’t have the balls to admit they screwed up. They just keep saying “these wheels are awesome! They are so fast” at the coffee shop. Thanks for watching. Please subscribe you always get straight and real talk from me. Cheers

@woodsdavid2887 Жыл бұрын

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Wise words indeed. Thanks from your new subscriber!

@charlesmansplaining Жыл бұрын

You brought up a point at 11:45 about getting assistance from other cyclists when you're obviously in trouble. You remember Pittsburgh? Well these people don't care about helping out someone they see walking down the road pushing their bike and walking in cycling shoes with cleats. I have been stuck at least five times that I remember right up the bike path from where you did your video at the rental shop, walking my bike and asking other cyclists if they had any C02 or a pump, I had a tube but my C02 failed from a poorly designed inflater, and I kept getting the same answer from everyone. Nobody would help. I don't carry C02 anymore because you only get one shot, so I now have a Silca frame pump. At least I won't run out of air anymore and if I see someone in need I can help. I also carry patches just so I have that option if they didn't have a spare tube. I have given up my spare tube before on group rides and it made me feel good to get someone rolling again and all I ever said to any of them is pay it forward. I wish they never would have invented C02 because it has made a lot of cyclist more selfish. Rant over, sorry to interrupt.

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

All we can do is pay if forwards! Well that and be self-sufficient 😂

@raiderfanlos Жыл бұрын

Excellent information has me think about a few things I didn’t consider.

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

You’re Welcome! Thanks for watching please consider subscribing

@king1203M Жыл бұрын

Nice explanation. Thank you👍

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

You’re Welcome please consider subscribing!

@roberts1159 Жыл бұрын

Good content as usual. Hope you reach 300k subscribers soon !

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

Thank You Robert

@ericrobbins6777 7 ай бұрын

No problem, I enjoy the content

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 7 ай бұрын

Honestly, I try do it when I can. I will be better at it. This is an old video hence I'm not going back in time ... for now. Thanks for watching!

@serdarerden9382 2 ай бұрын

I stopped watching GCN. They are just promoting and marketing brands. I found this channel very informative. I ride my road bike in Scottish countryside. It’s windy and I face very often strong cross wind. I have shallow aluminium wheel but my local cycle shop wants me to buy deeper carbon wheels. What’s the effect of cross wind on deeper and shallow rims?

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 2 ай бұрын

Welcome aboard! I generally don’t like deep section wheels when it’s windy unless I’m racing and race day is race day. I almost always ride low profile wheels. Riding deep carbon wheels is kind of dumb in my opinion especially since the braking is terrible when dry and downright dangerous when wet. My deep wheels are HED Jet black alloy brake track with carbon fairings.

@din75cschmoo 2 жыл бұрын

Nailed it !

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Thanks for watching please consider subscribing

@carlpentney290 Жыл бұрын

One of the annoying practicalities of having to carry 80mm valve stem tubes is the amount of room they take up in your saddle bag or jersey pocket, especially on a longer ride when typically you may like to take 3 'just in case'.

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

I know! I totally agree! But I think I mentioned it in this video, but I know in others, I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve run up on a rider who doesn’t have a tube with a long enough valve stem and luckily enough I’m carrying an 80mm tube, although to be honest, it has happened to me where I haven’t had the correct tubes in my tool bag because I have so many different bikes with so many different wheel with different rim depths 😖🤣

@FigouraLDN 2 жыл бұрын

Nice vid George!

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 2 жыл бұрын

Tell me what you liked so I can provide you and my other viewers with good content. Thanks for watching and please subscribe!

@FigouraLDN 2 жыл бұрын

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Already a subscriber :) In terms of content. Enjoy your honest approach to providing your opinion and personal experience of the rim use in real situations. It’s also raw in that it’s in the workshop, you show examples, and it’s not a vid that is overly edited. It’s also clear! Keep up the nice work.

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 2 жыл бұрын

@@FigouraLDN Thank You I appreciate your feedback! I will keep these things in mind as the channel grows. I think I hear the words - authenticity and real world experience. The same value I add to my brick and mortar customers. Cheers!

@michaelbrown8049 2 жыл бұрын

Keeping it real

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 2 жыл бұрын

Thank You for watching! Please subscribe 🙂

@sethleibowitz2906 2 жыл бұрын

Hi. Great video. I have mavic aksium aluminum wheels and I ride with gator skin clinchers. The mavics have zero material between the rim and spokes. Would I notice a difference in speed if I got an additional set of wheels like the HED ones and set them up as tubeless? I am thinking these would be good for faster group rides or longer rides.

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 2 жыл бұрын

Hello Seth thanks for watching please be more specific when you say the “HED ones” HED makes many rim depths. Keep in mind two things are at play 1. Rolling resistance - if you were riding gator skin tires you will never go fast. Those tires have terrible rolling resistance! Terrible grip and terrible performance overall. 2. Tire construction, tire pressure and the actual tire itself will make a big difference in rolling resistance. Of course aerodynamics come into play as well.

@sethleibowitz2906 2 жыл бұрын

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Thanks. Did not know that about gatorskins. I was talking about the ardennes rims in the video. I guess my thinking is to have a more areo set up for group rides and the gatorskins for when I am alone and want to avoid punctures.

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 2 жыл бұрын

@@sethleibowitz2906 why are you afraid of punctures? Why? Gatorskins are terrible tires please don’t ride them. Ride a high performance for better ride quality, better performance and less rolling resistance. It kills me when people pay $3k,4k,$8,000 on a bike and then destroy all the engineering put into the bike because someone puts $50.00 Gatorskins on the bike. I ride 10,000 miles per year ride high performance tires and get maybe 1 or 2 flats per year. Why are you afraid of punctures? Yes I’m asking again. The Ardennes are not aero in the least. Maybe look at the HED RC4 I did a video on those. The Gatorskins ranks nearly at the bottom of these 70 + tires tested www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/road-bike-reviews

@sethleibowitz2906 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks George. Good advice. I will stick with the alloy rims. Do you think going tubeless on the tires makes a difference?

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 2 жыл бұрын

@@sethleibowitz2906 yes tubeless is proven faster than clinchers … for many years now. Would you notice it probably not but you would be faster.

@user-bv3lr3en2q 2 жыл бұрын

How much faster can one be when sprinting at around 53kph on 35mm wheels then switches into deep-section wheels?

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say all that much faster. The assumption is you’re out of the saddle sprinting and your head, shoulders and body create more aerodynamic drag that can not be overcome by deepening the wheels’s rim depth. Just a guess… the benefit of deeper wheels would be realized BEFORE the sprint when you are in the seated position and much more aero. Also just a guess …

@rosomak8244 Жыл бұрын

Nothing. For sprints you need lightweight wheels. There is a reason those are used on time trails.

@dorohmc Жыл бұрын

Hi George very good content and perspective for the everyday rider (non pro). I am set to receive a new Canyon Endurace fitted with 105 and Fulcrum 900 Disc Brake wheels 24mm depth. The review of these are that they are solid OEM wheels but on the heavy side at close to 2kg for the pair. If you were to recommend an upgrade wheel set in the range of $800, what is it and would you go for 35-40mm depth or stay shallow? Right now my rides are 75-100k with

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

Hello Mark! Send me an email “ revcycling@gmail.com”

@stevebassett8944 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for vid. I just got new carbon wheelset. 35mm deep. I like hills!!!! Got GP5000's 28mm. Don't know what tubes to go with. They will be butyl. What do you think of Pirelli Road tube vs Conti Race?

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

Hello Steve congratulations on your new carbon wheels! If you’re staying within the butyl tubes, a tube is a tube the only difference will be where they call it a super light extra light ultra light whatever type of terminologies they use to differentiate between a standard tube and a thinner tube

@Havanafly 5 ай бұрын

I have 50mm at the moment and debating if I go 60mm or 45mm. I am an active rider and I race

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 5 ай бұрын

Choose what you need for your application. And oh by the way, you should have multiple wheelsets of multiple rim depths for the aforementioned applications. Thanks for watching please consider subscribing.

@Havanafly 5 ай бұрын

Yeah .. makes sense. I think I'll go for the 45mm. Since I already have deep mid range 50mm.

@atassisamer 2 ай бұрын

How would 44 deep do in 20 mph crosswinds?

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 2 ай бұрын

It will depend on how big of a rider you are. For light rider that would be too much to feel comfortable at speed. If you’re expecting those types of crosswinds I would ride a shallow wheel. Thanks for watching please consider subscribing

@realesride4975 2 жыл бұрын

What perfect rimdepth for all-rounder?

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 2 жыл бұрын

I would say no more than 40mm maybe even 35mm. Anything deeper seems to be something you actually have to pay attention when riding in windy conditions. Thanks for watching please subscribe!

@realesride4975 2 жыл бұрын

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad OK thanks

@andrewsetiawan4068 2 жыл бұрын

Hi@@SeeYouUpTheRoad, how do you think about 45mm wheel?

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewsetiawan4068 hello Andrew! My HED RC4 Black are 46mm and I love them. Initially I thought they would be too deep since I usually like wheels sub 40mm. But I’ve been riding them in all terrain and all conditions and they feel great. I haven’t ridden in really windstorms with crosswinds but hey who really wants to test that out anyway 😂 I have a set HED RC6 as well. They are still in the box looking for a happy home. I may put them on my bike if they don’t sell by the end of summer 🤣🤣 Thanks for watching!

@andrewsetiawan4068 2 жыл бұрын

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Thanks George...

@TheRickysee Жыл бұрын

Superb content

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

Thank You Ricky!

@ericrobbins6777 7 ай бұрын

Timestamps, timestamps

@SeeYouUpTheRoad 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! Please feel free to add time stamps to the segments you found important to you. It’s time consuming for me. I also don’t like people skipping through my videos because I add a lot of anecdotes that people will miss. Lastly, I rode over 10,000 miles last year I’d rather be riding than adding time stamps to videos 😂 Cheers!!

@user-cx2bk6pm2f Жыл бұрын

Enough with the begging for likes. So annoying.. thumbs down.

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! 😊 pay attention to the content and don’t be an ass. You’re being annoying … thumbs down for your shitty attitude 😊 If you spend enough time watching KZfaq every creator will ask you to like and subscribe. That’s how it works you don’t like it don’t watch KZfaq

@SeeYouUpTheRoad Жыл бұрын

I just re-watched the video. Standard spiel used by every content creator I’ve ever watched on KZfaq. Me you have an axe 🪓 to grind this evening. 😂 A 14 minute video full of great content and you’re complaining about 6 seconds of standard requests that all successful channels do to grow their channel. Thanks for watching! 👍

@B_COOPER Жыл бұрын

Begging for likes? You’re not here to consume knowledge or learn anything. You’re looking for reasons to be annoyed and bothered. Maybe try to stop looking for reasons to dislike things and you’ll learn a lot about yourself.

@milkbunnies 4 ай бұрын

I found it very insightful, and I’m a subscriber…you on the other hand come across as what we call in Australia a “wanker.”