means we also might see Jayce kill a hospital full of people to spite Viktor, and the death of Caitlyn’s parents. let’s see just how lore accurate they intend for it to be

Wait but he is also a Mercenary that Soraka Cursed into a Werewolf which resulted in her unicorn person appearence.

@@deemo.z or they'll just retcon that text part of lore

​@deemo.z at this point they might just go the warhammer route of 'everything is canon and not-canon at the same time'

Arcane Viktor, Warwick, Singed skins?

love u pinkward!

​@@Necrit U are so funny man😂 Always make me enjoy the lore universe Keep it up champion

@@Necrit much love

we need lore update for shaco. Something very funny

Yeah. That’s what I’m concerned about the removal of short stories. There’s a reason why short stories exist and it’s so they can give a certain champ a spotlight of their own. If they funnel the whole lore, it’s only the few popular ones who get the spotlight and it will be unfair for the rest.

Not everyone can be the protagonist

@@tobiasosuna5023 don't have to be, the protagonist will be ever changing and arcane did a great job at making you feel like everyone was protagonist in their own rights they gave enough depths to each characters ofc some characters had more but no one felt like they were sidelined

Im just afraid that all the "bad" guys like xerath, azir, viego, and elise will be portrayed as this guy is bad because he is bad

@@tobiasosuna5023 not everyone can be the protagonist at the same time. But the whole point of league of legends characters is, well, Everyone is a legend on their own.

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only 10 bucks bruh who cares @@Siren--Head

Agreed, I was waiting for ittt

It feels so nostalgic as many of us enjoyed sitting down and listening to Necrit’s story time.

When the mmo will be out, you're gonna explode mate xD

Waited months for lore. Sow this is awesome 😊

Here is another hug, Mug Thief. Your name references an in-joke from my childhood and I believe that your statement was a fair statement. You are more than deserving of the warm hug and I wish for you many more. Hopefully, we get a Lore video, and soon-regardless of the form the Lore takes.

Or get more actually published. People who like books and are looking for something to read aren't going to randomly go look on the website of a game they might not even play. They could have published LOL anthologies or submitted their short stories to anthologies of the appropriate genre (that would requires to make sure the stories are worth reading on their own and not just as a lore dump, but there are some on their website that meet that threshold imo). Many franchise expend their universe through novels and it works well. It's always a somewhat niche thing since reading is overall less popular than game, movies or anime, but it's still more popular than random shorts on a website. When Riot did it with Ruination it was well received and got read a lot more than their usual free short stories, but that it took them until 2022 to even try and that they only published one is something I never understood.

Exactly, I'd read that during queue times like come on riot

That's exactly what there used to be years ago but they got rid of it because so few people were interested. Now there's way more champions, vastly bigger universe, and many more stories being told so I'd love to see it come back.

Exactly. I fear that there is a good possibility that season 2 of Arcane could become worse because of this.

Chances are Riot will retcon as they go along with Arcane letting them take the wheel to a degree because of how they proved themselves in season 1. Granted there are set boundaries that can't be crossed, but this is not something that will probably be finished for another couple years. Setting up for future seasons of Arcane (moving away from Piltover into other regions after season 2) and getting Riot's juggernaut, the League MMO, are probably going to be the main priorities with Legends of Runeterra having to get reined in to a degree.

Another problem is that lore gonna be much more simplified or filled with "wtf" moments (or both, like Warcraft live-action), since all it's complexity can't be translated on screen.

There was never FULL creative freedom anyways. there were some things they had to keep . and even then they could just letthe arcane people cook whatever they want and adapt it to league. This iswhat they did now and i'm sure it is what they will do again. you will have recognisable character with fleshed out and slightly altered stories.

I don't think that creative freedom was the reason Arcane did such a good job. Rather, they actually attempted to give characters reasonable motivations and let the story flow from there. Sometimes that meant that significant parts of origins differed from LoL but they can keep making such differences going forward. LoL lore has always been secondary--just kind of tacked on to existing models/blurbs. It was also just kind of bad in that no one had more than one or two personality traits and we didn't really get to see how they developed. Even as Arcane begins to box itself in by building up non-changeable lore, it should still turn out better because the lore is higher quality to begin with.

Great comment and I’m on the same boat as you, I discovered the absolute legend of this lore through Necrit and have been following his videos ever since.

I guess we're just the minority in this case . I cant tell u how exited id get at work when a new story video came out . Ive made it a point to listen to the Voli Uder video at least once every few weeks . But im happy that Necrits channel is thriving with or with the Story videos. Its just sad to see them go . This channel is one of the last things keeping attached to lol , say what u what about their games the stories were always so immirsive when Necrit would read them .

Same very well said

Me and my friends are with this comment we liked the way of storytelling and we did care a-lot about them even the changes made are nice and fresh

I 100% agree with the original comment. I stopped reading the lore myself because Necrit made the lore feel alive. The art and production made the content enjoyable versus reading a story.

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Me every time I meet up with my mommy dom

Yeah I hope singed stays a war criminal. Who does ungodly experiments on people in his spare time. Everything else I'm at the edge of my seat for

Best way to describe it bth

If someone told me riot had this idea just yesterday, I would believe it

Im happy for you hapines cause of the happy man

Riot and spending ressources on something and then leaving it in the dirt. Name a more iconic duo...

yeah, if they put it into the cleint and feature new ones on the front page on release, people would read it while in queue. Personally I have read like 3-4 short stories over the years, but I didnt know about them till like late 2022. Majority of player dont know this content even exist, lol

We'll see, but you're right about the upper management. It only means now if the passionate devs will be able to push the actual important stuff through no matter the money (aka the biggest possible profit, but funny things is, the mmo will earn tons of money if done right anyway, just not as much as the people who need all the money of the world would like). Maybe some devs will have to rebel in riot (lol) to make the world and the champions their justice even if it means lower sales. In riot forge games and LoL the corporate shit can go through, sure. But, I'm sorry, a lot of people around the globe are already insanely attached to the champions and to the world at this point. Arcane and new ways of exploring the lore will solidify the point even further, so the case will be even more important as the time goes on to the release of the MMO. So if they don't do the MMO right in regards of the world building it will hurt their reputation bad. Like, real bad-bad. Sentinels of light had to be the first and the last biggest important lesson for them to see how to not handle things. LoL is a great tool for them too learn on mistakes without too much harm to the IP while they can. Though the time is tickin down pretty fast, less room for wrong decisions. More and more people (again, with time it will get even more serious) start to care about the universe and don't see LoL just as entertainment or a game. If passion wins - mmo will blow up like wow in 2004. Maybe bigger. Hm, actually, probably even much bigger. If passion doesn't win - the game will be insanely popular and a success for sure anyway, but would be treated as a theme park or like Fortnite and nothing more really. And a lot of people would feel betrayed too. Personally, I would rather choose between a passionate project or shuttin down the game completely. No third corporate bullshit choice.

Yeah I've played league since S1 (although I haven't been playing much the past couple of years) and I'm learning about these short stories only now. Like when I saw riot's post I thought by "short stories" they meant the champion bios, which weren't super deep. I just never knew these short stories existed, I've never seen them in the client at least

@@GamesCourier Google and Killed by Google.

Would that make you a good demoman?

It was but it got retconned apparently

Yes! They can EASILY make some characters LeBlanc's clones all along too :)

it would probably be better to leave her a mystery rather than risk overexplaining things and ruining the whole character

@@Kurollxx13 Honestly I'm not sure if riot is capable of creating a world with complex geopolitics that a character like leblanc deserves. I still think I'd like to see them try.

Yep, Heimerdinger potentially helping Ekko create the Z drive is one of my biggest fears for Arcane season 2 since it would take away from his achievement as prodigy inventor imo. When it comes to Ekko parents though its still not confirmed if he is or isn't an orphans in Arcane, people assume that Benzo was Ekko's adopted father but he could have easily been Ekko's boss who also looked after him when his parents were working at the factory. I could also see Arjuna being a part of the Firelights to if they try to bring that part of Ekko lore into Arcane. Its still gonna mostly have massive retcons of LoL Ekko lore and history since Arcane Ekko is pretty different when it comes to his personality and outlook.

@@smuggrog9821 My guess is that Heimer is going to be opposed to the Z-drive as a concept. Maybe not as opposed as he was to hextech, but definitely not thrilled if Ekko ever reveals his plans to build it. Thus, Heimer will be helping him learn how to use hextech, and generally nurturing his intellect, but Ekko will feel compelled to keep his Z-drive invention a secret.

Making Arcane Heimerdinger canon is a glow up

Honestly the scale of runeterra is why I'm concerned about this change. I absolutely loved reading/watching the short stories that they posted and although they were niche, EVERYONE had access to them. Those stories could also dive into different parts of runeterra and it's stories pretty easily. An animated TV show or a game takes a long time to produce and make, while a written short story takes much less time and could still be pretty impactful. The newer stories might still be good but I'm scared that we'll only get like 1-2 stories per year.

This might be a bad take. Marvel and DC are good examples of amalgamation style stories that started from pieces that eventually all came together. With retcons and rewrites happening long before I was born(96) and plenty of strong comics/movies have come from that cannon including adaptations, loyal to source or not. Riot has already laid the bricks for all their IP's to come together, it'll never be perfect. But from the goosebumps I got watching Arcane, I can tell you I'm damn sure excited. Definitely not scared.

as I have been saying for ages now, arcane was intended ALWAYS to be canon, sadly ppl are too retarted as always. There was 0 chance arcane would be a "spin off" universe or alternate universe, literally 0 chance

⁠​⁠@@sazariif they follow the marvel studio path, then it well be pretty bad

⁠@@sazari But the DC and Marvel movies AREN’T CANON to the comics. They’re adaptations, or they’re loosely based on the source material. Canonising Arcane, to me, feels like them deciding spontaneously that MCU is now comics canon - everything must now be retconned to fit the MCU. And the MCU must somehow remain consistent with literally every comic they put out. It would lead to worse quality for both. Not to mention the comics continuity is so convoluted that only hardcore fans even slightly understand what the hell is happening.

I'm more worried about Camille being like in Convergence

nice reference on the "sotry", u have a great taste or maybe that is just a typo

I agree Camille's literal job is to assassinate people like Silco to prevent them from doing deals with the upper class

I agree, arcane being a AU worked so much better for the show and the core universes freedom

As someone who got into League after Arcane, how did the layout work? Was Zaun a Subterranean city with piltover on top of it?

There was an accident involving explosives. It caused a massive chunk of the city to collapse below the sea level. What remained up above eventually became piltover, while the parts that fell down turned into modern Zaun.

@@y_matter3368 probably that explosion happens in season 2 of arcane. would also be a 'nice' way of getting rid of the firelights colony, so ekko can be the loner he is in the league lore

Where the hell did he get that from? They only said the origin of Hextech from Arcane is canon, they never mentioned Arcane is canon in its entirety.

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it's going to be way to gay even gayer then the new ff which only a very small ercentage of gamers will be able to anjoy, it's going to die out in 60 days after release.

@@susanthejew6351 gay as happiness or gay as sexuality?

@@susanthejew6351I have no idea what your point is sir, I’m genuinely confused

​@@susanthejew6351buddy, its still going strong at this point lmfao

Nah.. I think the exact opposite is happening. LoR writers were able to write some outlandish trash because the higher-ups didn't really care about canon. Now that LoL has an official canon, they will be scrutinized and reined in hard (no more self insert OCs).

It makes more sense for Durand to have apprentices than for him to have made Galio by himself. Therefore, it only makes sense for them to continue to practice the techniques they learned from Durand over the generations. None could accomplish an intelligent talking golem like Galio, but lesser moving petrified statues DOES make sense.

Dont have to be... everything added later will be canon and those things that exist today can be reworked, retconned and archived just like half of LoL champions. They would fit perfectly into an MMO so they will probably remain anyway.

@@Silent_Eric It doesn't tho. I mean, Kara in Mageseeker is literally Durand's descendant, and she says she left the family because she thought everyone there where monsters, greedy people. Then you look at them in LoR and they're literally saints

The sad thing is... they'll have to completely scrap out brilliant characters like Camille and League Ekko, because they cannot exist in the same universe where Arcane is canon. Camille essentially is retconned out of the story with this, only her family name remains. And idc what Meddler says, League Ekko and Arcane Ekko are two COMPLETELY different characters, with completely different timelines - you can't just say ''hey they're both canon now'' and change a few words in some short stories to make it make sense.

@@felipecouto1102 Making Arcane canon feels so short sighted in my opinion. It’s good precisely BECAUSE it wasn’t shackled to a massive sprawling universe. Arcane could do whatever it wanted - cut out any extraneous characters that didn’t fit the story (like Camille or Urgot or Mundo), change the characters to have closer, more complex relationships for the sake of more intimate drama, remove worldbuilding elements like the brackern crystals because they would have distracted from the core story. The world of Arcane is intentionally SMALLER - focusing entirely on a small cast with intimate complex relationships, cutting out anything that isn’t directly relevant. Trying to cram it backwards into the canon is a BAD IDEA. Forcing the Arcane team to figure out a way to make someone like fucking Mundo fit into their universe is a BAD IDEA. Saddling them with an entire universe and telling them “Hey, everything you do with your story will determine how this entire universe is run” is a BAD IDEA.

Hopefully he mentioned her at HQ since it was a pretty big deal.

Also kind of retcons galio though. It's stated in his lore "his secrets died with his creator" but now he just has more now

They need to fuckin rework The Ruination Lore via Arcane in future seasons

Yes, it would have been so much easier. I played Convergence and it pointed it out but, I’m starting to think everything is canon in different universes and timelines.

I have a feeling it will be a mixture of intergration of elements and details along with retconing a few things to better fit. Some things are easily handled while others reqiuire some finessing or reshaping to help fit them in.

I mean it's not exactly confirmed that they're dead, it can be argued that they're just away a lot thanks to their work to get him in Pilt school but yeah it's HEAVILY implied

The consequences of illiterate children and people too lazy to read. Ruining it for those of us that actually enjoy written stories.

I want shaco lore to never change because it's just funny to me and he's the champ that imo would suffer the least from it

Arcane's lore isn't changing, League's lore is. And it won't change that much either.

Nah they gonna fuck it up lol. Its Riot.

What everything else?

Hopefully they Place quality riding before any other type of message.

This will either fuck up Arcane, or fuck up League's lore. If Arcane's story pushes the league lore forward, the champions in League that didn't appear in Arcane won't be able to do ANYTHING, since they would certainly change the outcome of the story if they acted on it. At the same time, if Arcane is FORCED to be concise with what we have in League, it will NEED to shoehorn in characters that weren't accounted for in the story, because in no pheasible way they would NOT be in a big conflict that will decide the fate of the region (Like Renata Glasc). Suffice to say this retcon alone already completely destroyed Camille's character, and will force either one side to be completely irrelevant or tarnish the other.

The part that saddens me is that lore is now effectively paid content.... reading every new short story always connected me more to the game, and them missing has been very noticeable

Thats the thing do... do they REALLY have other ways of storytelling? The cinematics they've been promoting don't actually show any lore, its just a dimished version of the champion Bio. The games before Song of Nunu apparently aren't canon, and even then, updating your lore at the pace of game releases is not exactly a good idea

@@felipecouto1102 yep, i share your sentiment exactly the lore got updated with releases usually as much as is needed to put the new champ in the story, and then a flavorful color, which was always more for personality than story advancement other than that they released short stories as snippets and events happening to chars as they wanted, sometimes tied to current releases, sometimes not, it was a nice little window into the universe, and wed have a new one every so often now windows into the universe are literally only big game releases (that will never be consistent, games shouldnt be released on a schedule and many will probably have to pivot or even be dropped), which means ppl have to buy the games, or in the case of lor get the story in disassociated snippets (prolly same for project L too) and the biggest one that will fix this new problem is...an mmo, the literal meme of gaming because the genre is so unstable and demanding, that there is no guarantee it will do well, and usually will be a drain on resources with the amount of content it demands i am incredibly sad about the state of league lore now

​@@felipecouto1102 true. If anything, it should be like an improved version of Ruination: a season that focuses on a region's or faction's story.