Totally agree, in California the early superchargers had canopies... but canopies cost a ton to build so it makes sense that it's not a thing. Maybe one day when the gas pumps are dwindling we'll have our creature comforts back 🍻

@@WatchJRGo That'le be the day! That's when ALL of the ICE stations have to convert to electric.🤣😳

@@WatchJRGoWith companies like Porsche, and Shell working on much cleaner burning synthetic fuels for ICE cars, and Hydrogen also very slowly starting to catch on, I doubt gas stations will have anything to fear for a long time to come.

They should use solar panels as canopies. Keep the cars cool and add clean energy into the mix.

@@CommodoreFan64hydrogen is not catching on, and is basically an EV with extras steps… there are a total of less then 20 filling stations in the entire country and all of them are in California, with one in Hawaii..

I'm not the biggest Ford fan, but I fully admit 90's Lincoln, and even things like Mercury Cougars, and Ford Crown Vics in good condition are some really comfy cars for long trips, and the fuel mileage ain't as bad as most would think, as I had an 03 Ford Ranger Edge I was only able to squeak about 20 Mpg babying the throttle on a long road trip.

I’ve owned nice gas cars. I still prefer road tripping in my model S.

Fair call.

Try driving one, you’ll change your mind. They’re built like shit and cost too much for what you’re getting.

@@Powersproductions130 Yep, the tech is great but the fit and finish leaves a lot to be desired in a car costing that much.

I drive a 2021 M3 fit and finish is better than most German premium vehicles although mine is a MIC model.

@@daveblack5109 I am well aware of that. The same can be said for MOST American brands. The cheaper the vehicle, the worse the fit and finish will be. Sad, but true.

My time is worth something too, that’s why I chose a Model 3. On the occasional road-trip, the time saved all the nights my car charged while I slept more than makes up for it. Do the math for all the times you have to stop for gas, it adds up.

When JR said it takes 15 min to fuel, I was thinking what they heck is he fueling? I think electric car owners just say those kind of crazy times so they dont feel bad for how long it takes to charge their batteries.

I absolutely want to go back and do that, it was already closed when I got there, the video shows the last tour out 🍻

Twos born is correct. Their ponchos funnel all of the water right down into your shoes. Also it gets very windy close to the falls so if you bring anything with you make sure to hold on to it. If you go to the Canada side you can go in the tunnels in the falls and also a Jet boat ride in the rapids that come after the falls.

Or you can be a true American and wear camo crocs!

Hybrid is the way to go.

I only let 2-3 stops charge 15-20 minutes longer than the car said it needed to continue the trip 🍻

The Model X charging on your car is slower then the 3/Y. You need to goto the 2019+ for equal charge speed. Charging past 70% is just wasting time.

Having owned a 2018 Model S 85 and a 2016 Model S P85+ with dual onboard chargers $10k upgrade to 20kw… I can say the fastest I’ve ever charged was around 300 mph but it slowed down after 20 to 225 and then again at 30 150 and 40 to 58 or so… then they changed their algorithm around Sep 2019 and it’s remained about the same… get people in and out in 20 minutes… charge as fast as it can (shared is divided power), they they de-incentivize you (want you gone) by killing your charge rate to have every 10 minutes. A full charge literally took over 5 hours. Bottom line You cannot win. You will experience approximately 70% of the Tesla estimates for milage. If you charge longer it will just recalculate and you’ll experience a longer trip every time. My Tesla’s both had free super charging. Saved about 10k in fuel at about 5k hours of charging over 5 years 😢…. Basically your trade your life for less cash output to the oil company… Compensate by working in those hours somewhat offsets the deficiencies but not in overall health and quality of life. You’ll be married to the charging network and your sex life will suffer 😢

a full tank on a real car is 5 minutes or so

Every girl I know LOVES having to stop every 2 hours and they would appreciate this... I like to stop every 3-4 hours 🍻

I drove from Sydney to Melbourne nearly non stop when I had a Honda Accord. 900km/560miles or so. My bladder filled before the tank emptied, had to stop after 8 hours 😂

I couldn't help but laugh.

Everyone I know that has a model 3 loves it. Never heard any of them regret getting it and they all went from gas cars to total EV. I have an VW EV and plan to get a 3 next year.

@@oregonziggy2391the model 3 hate comes usually from non-owners I think. Or people who downgraded from a S/X and somehow expected the same feeling for half the price. As a car, the 3 doesn’t have any major issues brought up in its currently 5th year run.

I think Purdue University built and tested a small piece of road that works like a wireless phone charger.

I’ve driven 8hours journey several times this year with an model Y two of them with a small camper on the towbar..its a long journey car for sure..you have to eat and the car is ready when you are

I just wish they'd have a little more range (for the ones that weren't designed from the ground up as one, i.e. Volt). Cayenne plug-in hybrid, for example, only gets 15 miles on all battery :(

Double drivelines and little range..i disagree

Not really. Charging isn't worth it for those few kms they offer, and you carry extra weight. Faster charging and most of all only charging until the charging speed slows down is the way to go. Do not charge until full, unless you have a ton of time and don't mind wearing out the battery.

My concern with hybrid is that you have now two types of vehicle technology to maintain and repair. I’m not at all saying to stay away. It’s just a calculation per person of which risk to take. They’ll all work great and they’ll all fail miserably hehe

I think the only reasonable use case for a PHEV is for those that live in rural areas. In other words, areas that have little public charging infrastructure. They can have EV range for their daily commutes, and then refill with gas when they need to go on long trips.

The navigation shows you if the next Tesla supercharger is busy and if it is worth moving onto the next charger.

I was rerouted to a different charge once, because the original one was experiencing high usage.

Nah, GM is leading the way in EV's. Just ask Mary.

@@Sonny_Vthat’s funny

My sentiments exactly

Terrible Haute.. 😂

I guess Tesla pays commercial electric rates for its chargers then, as my charges were 40-45 cents between SLO and Red Bluff.

It’s .27 cents here, Bay Area. Off peak hours.

You can not unplug any car while plugged in because the car has a locking mechanism so the charging port can not be pulled out

Usually if the car doors are locked the charge cable is locked into the car as well. As soon as you unplug the cable a new session starts, just like a gas pump 🍻

If someone is hogging the supercharger cable, and you unplug them, you still can't get your car into that spot anyways

On most DC fast charger/Super Chargers they have idling fees, meaning if you just leave your car plugged in after it is full you get charged for hogging the charger. Tesla charges .50 a minute if the site is 50%+ full and $1 a min if the site is 100% full if you sit there for more than 5 mins not charging but plugged in. I know Electrify America just started doing it too but they are too lenient and give you a 10 min grace period and only charge you .40 a min.

I'd venture to say I was going to eat and grab a drink anyway, usually less than $10 for a water and a snack 🍔

You went into a mall and only spent $10.00? you have more restraint than I.@@WatchJRGo

thing is those EVs with fast charging are expenssive. I dont think you can get fast charging for under 40-50k euro car

When I'm road tripping here in the US, a gas stop is usually 3-4 minutes. I don't go inside, just pay at the pump and go!

@@05Forenza+ you will loose money just going into the shops. 1 Hour is crazy to wait.

How far will that 80% charge take you as opposed to a full tank of fuel? What if the charging stations are full or faulty? If the charging station is full your "10" minutes could be pretty long.

Our Model 3 can get 100 miles of range in about 8 minutes when you start at about 20%.

If you have time to kill I think it’s a great experience… but when you want to get somewhere like we do, it’s not the way 😂

Agreed we took a friends Model X on a 1500 mile road trip and had a great time. Same we planned charging as best we could around meals and or bathroom breaks or just the need for a get out and stretch break.

A long trip in a plug in hybrid is going to look like a regular gas car trip. This is mostly because most hybrids only have about 30-40 miles range on all electric mode. They don't have fast charging capability like full EVs. Its unreasonable to imagine someone would want to stop every 30 miles and level 2 "slow charge" them, hence they will just run on the gas engine for the rest of the trip.

Nonsense. We drive regularly many hundreds of kilometers through Europe as do many hundreds of thousand other people. DEATH TO FOSSIL!

@@Alejandro-ut4up That is pretty much accurate. As a Hybrid driver for several years now, I regularly do 360 / 400 mile trips and what you find is that the battery pack regenerates as you drive and you both use and regenerate traction battery power as you go. When I arrive I often have a fully charged traction battery due to regen charging and driving in pure EV mode is still available. The whole point of a Hybrid is to use both fuel and electric to suit your trip. Personally, I never get less than 50 mpg overall, often seeing 65 mpg. The small traction battery does limit total EV range but that is the whole point. Driven reasonably, you get the benefits of both when you need them and can run pure EV in congested or urban areas where pollution is at its worst. My car is a diesel hybrid SUV which I don't think is available in the US but it is about 5 - 10% more efficient than its ICE equivalent in real conditions. AND, no playing EV charger roulette, as ICE is always available - as is gas stations with canopies. EVs have their place but long road trips isn't one of them yet. The highest estimated range I have seen on my car is 680 miles. 400 miles is a dawdle and I get to choose where and when I stop or not.

I'm new to Tesla, have a Y/LR now for 4 months and I LOVE taking it on road trips. Where Tesla majorly falls down is not educating folks on road tripping efficiently. You don't just rely on the navigator recommendations. Make more stops for 10-15 minutes each, try to recharge at 10-15% and go to no more than around 60% since charging slows way down the higher you charge, pick V3 chargers if you can (dumb navigator just picks slower ones even if a V3 is within range a bit sooner or later). Also, you DON'T save much money via supercharging. But charging at home is 3-4x cheaper than gas. I much prefer my Tesla to our Honda CRV for trips by a long shot.

​@civwar64bob77 nope. Depends on where you live and what kind of gas vehicle you drive. Electricity is 38 cents per kwh at my house. Tesla goes 2.5m per kwh. That's 40kwh to go 100 miles or a little over $15. Now do the same in a Honda accord hybrid or any vehicle that's gets over 40 mpg. ICE is much cheaper unless you are comparing it to a gas guzzler or you live in a area with cheap electricity.. which won't be cheap for long.

That exactly what I was seeing when I had A&B to myself or was on a V3... with about 66kW when sharing. The time savings with charging at 250kW are massive on a trip like this! 🍻

@@WatchJRGo Its the faster charging at 250 KW/H from 5 to 45 and then the charging goes down linearly to about 125 when at 80%. So there is clearly a charging curve and it is an area where Tesla is good but there is more space for improvement also

Amen 😌

Amen again!

That’s the beauty of America, nobody’s telling you what to drive. I chose a Model 3 and don’t see myself ever driving an ICE car. To each their own.

Maybe with a truck with a huge fuel tank, and even then.... :) On a normal car it's more like 5 minutes when you take your time.

@@alexandrecouture2462 maybe 5 minutes if I’m also going inside to get a drink and piss.

It’s not really a nightmare in my opinion….I have free SuperCharging in my 2013 Model S 85 with 420km range. Paying upwards of $160 -$170 for one tank of gas in my truck now seems like a nightmare and a ridiculous waste of money. However, I will admit on a road trip charging takes 30-45 minutes for each stop. It’s better to road trip in the Tesla when on vacation and there is no time restraints or deadlines. Yes, I know someone is saying wait till I need to buy a new EV battery…well my car already has a new EV battery with 4 year warranty. I don’t plan to keep it that long and next owner should get some warranty too.

Not talking about the cost. Stopping anywhere in the country with a petrol station and taking 5min to fill up VS being forced to stop only where there is a charger and wait 30min to an hour or longer each charge. Yep, nightmare on a long road trip@@craignoble899

Teslas are actually really good road trip cars. They practically do everything for you. Charging stops aren’t that bad.

What in 250k miles? Kinda like replacing an engine? Grow up

People just say the most random, ignorant, weird things when it comes to EVs. Do you regularly change the basement on your house? Because that's about how usual it is to replace a battery pack on an EV.

Honestly some of these are on original batteries at 600k miles

Is the confident ignorance something you have to work at, or just natural intellectual sloth?

I own a tesla but you guys are delusional. How many miles until you have to change an engine on a toyota highlander? Also how much does it cost to change the engine in a highlander (if you ever even need to) versus the cost of changing a model x battery? Come on, i love my tesla and i know what im giving up for loving it, lets not kid ourselves

The Prius is the best roadtrip car ever built, my Volt does well too 💯

Just call the number 🍻

@@WatchJRGo ok wasn’t 100% sure how that would work since I have a couple of EZPass-compatible transponders and I can transfer them from car to car as needed. I only ever had to make other toll payment arrangements in CA earlier this year.

With EV you're screwed up front buying it! My cheap ass car plus all the gas will never equal 6 digits!

is this quality issue affecting new Model S vehicles too? this is out of curiosity anyway, I like the older Model S with the normal interior rather than the screen+ yoke paradigm

I’d rather sleep while my car charges. Who road-trips everyday? Stopping for gas takes time and it too adds up

@@nsxt321 Come on. Takes literally 5 minutes to fill up in most cases. It’s not daily either. I fill up every other week.

Door gaps on my X are ALL OVER THE PLACE and whats crazy is they all shift every time the falcon doors close... build quality is pretty laughable. I do think with dual SDUs this X might make it 250k miles. 😳

And mind you in Denmark the cheapest Model X from new is $185,000 before options. It's hard to justify right now @@WatchJRGo

@@WatchJRGoI had moved to End of S/X line when the first batch of X’s were being built so I don’t know if it was always like this but, just about every X off the line went to EOL Repair due to defects and were being held due to a major part shortage at the time with the front door latches the few that moved to test usually failed at water test and were right back at EOL repair. It wasn’t just a 100% defect rate but multiple defects per vehicle add to that they dumped the Spectre on us (code name for current body style Model S) we were calling those out for massive body gaps on the front end (like your entire finger fits) only for a supervisor or Elon himself to say it’s fine 🙄 I was in door assembly for model 3 things only got worse quality wise. I don’t miss the 6/12’s and 7/12’s of the early days working there either just the $

It was amazing, the mist was cool too! 💯

My advice: don't sell your ICE vehicle. Gas will be available for decades to come, and it's still the best choice for long trips or hauling. Get an EV when they're cheaper and you need a car for the commute.