Robert M. Hutchins, The Great Conversation, Preface

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5 ай бұрын

We begin our deep dive into Robert M. Hutchins' introduction to the Great Books set by looking at the preface to "The Great Conversation".

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@LibroParadiso-ep4zt
@LibroParadiso-ep4zt 5 ай бұрын
Good day. Enjoyed your introduction to Hutchins. He is from the generation of writers who read widely and thought deeply about their books. When you talked about him I thought about one of the best in the U.S., Edmund Wilson, whose comprehensive knowledge about a subject was remarkable. I agree with everything you said about the relevance and importance of great books. Now, how to get someone to read them for the sake of doing so is another matter. And a deeper problem is literacy. One must be a curious, patient, and dedicated reader in order to get through any of the great books, and come to terms with their literacy. I think that is the challenge.
@greatbooksbigideas
@greatbooksbigideas 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment. I have heard of Edmund Wilson but have not had the pleasure of reading him yet. Any recommendations for where to star? I agree about the challenge of literacy. I'm afraid the problem has gotten worse since Hutchins was writing.
@LibroParadiso-ep4zt
@LibroParadiso-ep4zt 5 ай бұрын
The Library of America has published two volumes of Wilson's books and essays. The one I recommend is Edmund Wilson Literary Essays and Reviews 1920's - 1930's; Shores of Light; Axel's Castle. Wilson knew everyone from that generation, including Fitzgerald, and was an early champion of Joyce's Ulysses and Eliot's The Wasteland. He wrote a fascinating and penetrating book about the writings produced during the American Civil War, "Patriotic Gore," It contains one of the earliest realistic portraits of Lincoln, as well as an early appreciating of his greatness as a writer. His chapter on Ambrose Bierce led me to read his stories. Wilson and Vladmir Nabokov were friends but had falling out over books (imagine a time when that could end a friendship), especially Russian authors and translations. Men of strong opinions. @@greatbooksbigideas
@greatbooksbigideas
@greatbooksbigideas 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the rec! I will keep an eye out for Wilson. @@LibroParadiso-ep4zt
@LibroParadiso-ep4zt
@LibroParadiso-ep4zt 5 ай бұрын
I think you'd enjoy him. It is amazing how by the late 1980's he was just a footnote in the huge literary criticism book I had for a lit crit class. No one reads him anymore. @@greatbooksbigideas
@asdisskagen6487
@asdisskagen6487 Ай бұрын
I know this video is a bit older, but if anyone here is a homeschooler, this set of books is part of a collection which includes "The Great Ideas" Program books (set of 10) by Mortimer Adler and the "Gateway to the Great Books," (set of 10, color coded, prequel to the GBWW series) which is a series designed to train readers to become more active and effective before they tackle some of the denser material in the GBWW series. The whole 3-part collection is intended for high-school and up (Hutchins states explicitly the GGB books should be easily understood by the average 16-year old) and is a nice transition for anyone who is using the "Great Illustrated Classics" young readers book series, which makes classic imaginative literature more accessible to younger readers.
@greatbooksbigideas
@greatbooksbigideas Ай бұрын
Thanks for the info! I have the Gateway set and Great Ideas program books, and I plan to do some videos on them sooner or later!
@scottselliers1672
@scottselliers1672 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your discussion about Hutchins and this set of books! Have you read "A Great Idea at the Time: The Rise, Fall, and Curious Afterlife of the Great Books" by Alex Beam? I feel as though it is a well-researched discussion about this set of books. As for your discussion questions, thank you for fostering conversation! When I first read this particular volume of the set nearly twenty years ago (as a young man in my twenties), I was absolutely floored by how prescient Hutchins' concerns were for their time, seeing as though the postmodern criticism that occurred in the time in between his time and mine seems to have fostered a contemporary belief that the very notion of a cannon of Western thought is an affront to intellectual development. Of course every generation suffers from the sort of nostalgia-stricken malaise that has older folks bemoaning the fallen state of "kids these days". But what I feel Hutchins was pointing to was something deeper; he feared the American enterprise of fostering an educated citizenry. In many ways, I feel as though he and Adler saw this set of books as the University of Chicago's best chance at reaching a large enough segment of the population of their time in an effort to stave off what they perceived as the post-war, postmodernism dismantling of academic authority - at least in so far as it pertained to academia's role in making such statements for each successive generation. Reconsidering Hutchins' (and Adler's) writings in this set with you now, at a time in my life much more weighted with the influence of the internet than it was when I first read them, has me wondering what they would have had to say about these states of affair today!
@greatbooksbigideas
@greatbooksbigideas 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the thoughtful commentary. Yes, I have read Alex Beam's book, and I learned a lot about the great books "movement" from it. I'll probably get around to discussing it more in a video, eventually.
@austinrucker3853
@austinrucker3853 4 ай бұрын
As someone who recently picked up reading again and discovering the GBWW Set and is currently working my way through it. I can say with confidence that the educational system we have today is a great failure. I, being in my late twenties, feel as though I was robbed of these treasure troves, but I am happy to have still discovered this set.
@greatbooksbigideas
@greatbooksbigideas 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment. It's never too late to start a great books journey. The books will be good company over the course of your life!
@Barnabas94
@Barnabas94 8 күн бұрын
Also in my late twenties and I’m building out my library at home for my daughter. Even have the wife reading more “Great Books.”
@GenreBooks23
@GenreBooks23 3 ай бұрын
Hadn’t heard of this series- not sure it came across the pond, but interested to hear more.
@greatbooksbigideas
@greatbooksbigideas 3 ай бұрын
I'm not sure, either. I think this was more of an American thing. I'll see if I can find out more about it.
@asdisskagen6487
@asdisskagen6487 Ай бұрын
I believe there are sets available in the UK on eBay.
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