Glad I could help! $629 is a great deal for the L10s.

Thank for the support! The Q Revo is a great robot for sure.

I hear that they are the same robot under the covers over and over from people and they really are not at all.

Check out the new L20 Ultra from Dreame. I will have some vids out soon.

Glad I could help!

@@jamie.andrews regarding the cleaning solution to use it with the dreame, do you use the one they sell? The reason I ask is because I have the OMO roborock cleaning solution and I was wondering if that would be ok to be used with the dreame once the solution they provide is over.

@@albertosiqueira3771 That should be fine

Totally understand your points. You should see some of the replies I get from them. I got one from Ecovacs telling me I should reboot my router to help with a navigarion quirk. Lol. None of my other fleet of vacuums need rebooting of the router. Best of luck to you!

literally my exact same thoughts just ordered the revo I am upgrading from a j7 plus for my mom and I was a little bummed out to hear about the not so great obstacle avoidance issue but that's the only thing that was holding me back and yes I have hopes that the software will be upgraded and I have more confidence in my decision choosing a brand that clearly has allot more users then the dreame and more good reviews but that new s20 looks way to cool ngl

It all comes down to obstacle avoidance. The Q Revo has a very basic system that will never be as good as the L10s regardless of firmware updates. If obstacle avoidance is not that important then the Q Revo is a great choice for the reason you listed.

Great suggestions. I don't have the data for most of that stuff. I would say the cost of maintenance is similar. As far as replacement parts that will depend on where you source them from.

Thanks! I'm excited for the L20!

Thanks so much! I am working on the Yeedi Cube review now. No plans unless I get a bunch of requests to do so.

I thought you would say landfill 😅

I did one a few months back kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y5-lZ7iJrcXQdpc.html

I do not have any official information on it, but I can tell you that it will be a good ways off and the US market does not always get the same things as the oversees market and if they do it is much later and different. I am aware of a model after the L20 coming to the US, but it is not an "X" model.

Glad to hear I could help you out!

You could have waited L20S Ultra , just couple weeks :)

@@jpthsd Its more expensive and i heard that its dock's water distribution system wont be supplied within a box, which is weird imo

Both are great robots.

Yes firmware updates made a big difference.

Glad i saw this comment because I just also saw a video by the hook up and it showed the L10s being pretty poor at OA...glad to hear firmware update made a difference because now will for sure get a L10s...

Where did you get it for 699? Could you please send a link?

@@brdmyldz it was through Roborocks official website. The sale is over and it's back to 799

The pull out tray is fantastic.

​@brdmyldz During prime day it was $699...right now its $799. Just wait for the next prime or BF day.

I have it. Will have a review out as soon as possible. I have not have any issues with the L10s.

Either of these machines will work well for you. The second side brush is not needed imo.

I am working with that one now. Will be towards the end of this month.

@@jamie.andrews reeally looking forward to that Comparision!

​@@jamie.andrewsreally cant await the new Vid! 🎉

Yes the L10s has 2 way video as long as you use the Dreame Home app and not the MI home app. There are several differences between the L10s and the L20. I will have a video out on those shortly.

@@jamie.andrews thanks for the info, I also found out that it's video only, no audio. The L10s Ultra is currently 300 € less than the L20 Ultra, but just week ago it was 400 € less. For 2/3 of the price it would have been a no-brainer, but I missed the sale. Also sound levels between the devices and in different modes are quite important, the first impression for me is that the L20 Ultra is significantly louder compared to the L10s Ultra, which would be a shame, as I quite often vacuum when we are at home. Therefore lower suction powers and their sound levels are important, and whether the robot performs as good on those lower air flow modes as the maximum suction modes. Eager for your review. 👌🏻

​@@jamie.andrewswhat do you mean by 2 way video and can you disable camera?

@@youtubeaccount7137 should have said 2 way audio.

The next Roborock sale is Black Friday.

If you hold the Dock/Home button for at least 3 seconds it will go in to Spot Cleaning mode. So technically there is a button that does do this. If you briefly press the Dock button, it will go back to its dock.

Yea but it will be just a bit.

Mine does not do that.

@jamie.andrews thanks. The bugs with the T20 have got me at the point where I want to replace it but the choice in the UK is limited so its between the L10s and the s7 max ultra and I'm liking to obstacle avoidance on the L10s

@@RichyNeal Yea no comparing the obstacle avoidance between the L10s and the S7 Max.

Hi Jamie, could I trouble you to double check if the pads spin as it backs up and if it lowers them. I watched another video today and theirs was doing it, I'm just wondering if it's something that's changed with firmware updates

@@RichyNeal yes give me just a bit and I will check.

Sorry to hear that.

No not in my testing. It is a hardware limitation. They are going to release a MaxV version soon.

Yes you should make sure the robot is fully charged before sending it out to map. Every robot you buy will need to complete a mapping by returning on its own to the base. If you interrupt the process it will fail. Again the goes for all robots that map and is not unique to Dreame.

My L20 review will be out in a few weeks, but I am not sure I would compare it to the Q Revo as it is almost twice the price and has many more options.

A possible point in favor of the Roborock is that I can source consumables and parts locally. Not so for Dreame. Would need to rely exclusively on online shops and pay shipping.

It really does come down to object avoidance which I think tends to be overrated for people like me and you who prep before the robot runs. Object avoidance is not perfect. Thanks for watching.

@@jamie.andrews appreciate the insight and thanks again for the great content. Best robot vacuum reviews I've seen.

Sounds like you have made your choice and I can't blame you for ti either. I am sure your mom will love the Q Revo! It is a dang good robot.

I never do to keep things fair as some detergents may clean better than others and some manufactures do not include detergent in the box with the robot.

Money grab?

No. That tends to have more to do with different water conditions. Some people use a silver ion block to help. kzfaq.infowHcVeXudPbY?si=X0nqIPopaW1YFfzo

I’ll give it a try. Where is your affiliate link?

@@SpencerBrownJM sure amzn.to/3QxIK5W

You can swuch it on and off in the app.

Both will meet your needs. I suspect Roborock has a better track record with regards to failure rates.

That comes down to one's needs and wants. All 3 are great and you honestly can't go wrong with any of them.

Nothing really meaningful. Just random.

Those are so very different with the L20 being on a totally different league than the Q Revo.

Entirely depends on the thickness of the carpets. I would say both of these are good for low to medium pile carpet and while the medium pile carpet gets a tad wet it should dry fast. You can also set the QRevo to vacuum carpets first and then vacuum mop the floors. With that said the Dreame L20 and X30 eliminate the issue which is huge.

Thank you very much for the swift reply. I love your channel!

@@carolineelise2208 Glad to help! Thanks

​@@jamie.andrews Which one would you get if the price was the same? The L10S ultra is on sale and actually about 30$ less than the q revo where I live. A total of 760$ for the Dreame.

@@carolineelise2208 If you want good object avoidance the Dreame is the answer otherwise the Q Revo is a solid pick.

L10s Ultra is $629 for fall prime day, today. $699 for Q Revo.

I'm honestly considering returning the unit and going for the roborock. This feature is important because I want to be able to schedule a vacuum task before mopping so that it doesn't have to vacuum over my carpet with a wet pad. Lifting the pad is not good enough as it doesn't go high enough.

This is what I consider a weakness of Dreame in general. I found a few bugs recently myself. Roborock is much better at fixing bugs quickly.

I solved the problem by splitting and merging the room to create a separate room in the middle. After bit of googling, it turns out the q revo has the exact same issue and it's actually done by design to prevent wet pads going over no mop zones accidentaly. Still doesn't make that much sense to me but I can live with this work around.

I don't really use customer support since I have a back channel relationship with all of the companies so I do not know the answer to your question. I suspect iRobot and Roborock would come out on top.

Thanks - I am looking to buy a Q Revo or a Dreame L10S ultra This to replace an older Irobot that has worked fairly well - so I would ask - what would you do (these are expensive so I do not want to make a mistake)- I would not consider an Irobot- Much appreciate you input and your videos- PS - I have read that Roborock and Dreame are the same company????@@jamie.andrews

Working on it. They have needed to fix some things. It is not quite ready for the masses just yet. Other people on KZfaq will be quick to slam out a review for veiws, but I don't work that way.

@@jamie.andrews What problems have you already noticed for L20 Ultra?

@@Pi0tras20 Mostly with navigation.

​@@jamie.andrewsI assume it is worse than L10S Ultra? Weird that it's not improved. I assume that they will fix it in software updates but sounds really bad for now.

@@Pi0tras20 I am on a beta firmware and it is much better.

Just pick up each time prior to sending the robot out and it will be no big deal, especially if you don't have pets that have accidents in the house.

Yea I though about putting that in there, but they both have that function. The Q Revo actually does have dock buttons, just not on the dock itself. If you press the home button on the robot while docked it will start an auto empty and if you long press it will start a mop washing. There is no real need to fill the dock on the Q Revo with water since the tray is removable. They are both great robots. Glad to hear you like the L10s.

​@@jamie.andrewsany idea if you can disable the camera of the l10s?

@@youtubeaccount7137 You can yes

@@jamie.andrews thanks what is the result of disabling it? No object avoidance any more?

Did you get the l20 yet? If so, do you like it?

It is a big deal for me in these ways. 1. I prefer to add hot water when sending my robot out to mop and with other vacuums it means I can't unless the tank is empty (Rarely) or I decide to pour out the old water that also has $$ detergent in it. 2. I prefer not to worry about premixing detergent to the correct levels. 3. Some people complain adding detergent to the water tank caused buildup inside the clean water tank. That is not good for the internal plumbing or the mop. Hope this helps.

I am only talking retail list as it would be unfair to compare them to random sales prices.

@@jamie.andrews Thats true I agree

I think it is because of the design of the pads more than the dock, but I need to test to be certain. I figured this comment would show up when I was editing the video. That was the only downside to the L10s dock. The Q Revo lacks detergent injection, goes through more water and has a smaller dustbag and an inferior auto empty system compared to the dual airflow on the L10.

As the Q Revo goes through more water, do you recon it cleans better as well? Or do you recon it's just the cleaning of the pads. Long term there could be a difference? @@jamie.andrews

@@fthorsen I do think it cleans better, but I am not sure if it is because of the water or the difference in the pads. I need to do more research here.

@@fthorsen I have owned both robots and in my opinion the Q Revo mops better than my previous L10s. If that means more water is used, I guess thats a trade-off worth living with.

​@@jamie.andrewsthe Revo also has dual airflow. The port is on the side of the bin, and inlet on the robot itself

You can select how wet you want the floors to be. Theres one preset below the default amount.

Yes the water control is better on the Q Revo.

Yea I have heard similar from others.

That model did not exist when I made this video last year and as of now I still don't have one to review. Price wise these two are much closer as well.

Ohh sorry... my bad. I forgot this video is quite old. Jamie, care to make a video comparison of Q Revo and Dreame L10 (non S) version? Thank you. And last but not least, I'd like to say your comparison is very thorough, especially the water consumption table, it's well observed. Well done, keep up!

@@jonnylee8538 I don't have the L10, but the main differences is no detergent injection.

I see, thanks for the clarification. Regarding the water consumption level for washing the mop set by the app like you've tested on this comparison video, is it the same for all the robots from any brands? I mean the settings of the washing mode we set on the app only affect during in the middle of mopping. The beginning and the end of the mop washing have their own presets water consumption from each manufacturers and do not affected by the setting from the app?

@@jonnylee8538 most robots are fairly similar in water consumption.

Check out the Ecovacs T20

​@@jamie.andrewscan u not disable it?

@@youtubeaccount7137 I find most people that are against the camera are not happy enough with just disabling it.

Wow that does not look right as that is not how mine behaves. I will say that a robot with obstacle avoidance will use more battery. They take longer to navigate around obstacles. If you pick up before your robot leaves the dock it should not matter too much. Second is you could schedule a robot to do a few rooms at a time which is what I do. I recently updated the firmware and noticed obstacle avoidance improved a bit for mine. What firmware are you on? Testing too provide run time for a robot is a very hard thing to do for the following reasons. 1. The vacuum speed, carpet boost, mopping settings all drastically impact the battery in a different way depending on how the end user uses the robot based on their setting in the app. Someone with all carpet will use more battery than all hardwood floors for example, but most people have some sort of mixed environment. Second the layout and complexity of the house (as you notice it takes longer to navigate around objects) also impacts battery life fairly drastically. I tend to shy away from these types of tests as they very rarely align with real world usage.

@@jamie.andrews Hi Jamie, thanks for your reply. As I no longer have the robot, I cant say what the f/w version was, however it said I had the latest at the time which was only a few weeks back. I understand what you are saying about the difficulty of measuring battery life. They are directly proportional to suction power, mop on/off, robot speed and how good the navigation is. Perhaps an overall time to navigate a typical room would be better. I feel that the manufacturers have "bolted on" obstacle avoidance to a generic navigation program and that's part of the problem. Also, I dont think the hardware they are using for obstacle avoidance is quite up to the task yet. Perhaps it will take another generation of hardware and some tighter integration with the navigation software to improve the overall time. I have an old S5 that takes 41 mins to vacuum my lounge which is 38 square meters. The L10s took 59 minutes to do the exact same room.

Yes

That depends on the needs as mentioned in the video conclusion. It really comes down to object avoidance for most people.

Hard choice!

Cameras are on both sides of your cell phones too!

@@jamie.andrews yes, but i don't roam my phone around the house daily to my kitchen, to my toilet, everywhere with my phone. besides, im using Apple only iphones which is tough to hack.

Yep

I can confirm room sequence was removed because of a patent. Thanks for sharing,

$649 is a great price for the L10s Ultra