Great question that unfortunately did not make it into this video. It is 1 extra sweaping blade mounted under the moving scrubbing brush roller that sweeps the left side of the dock. It is in a photo in the video. If you look inside your dock all the way to the left you will see a dirty area with a sharp cut off line. That area of dirt is now cut in half thanks to this second sweeper, but not eliminated entirely. Not a huge deal imo. I could be missing some other design reasons though.

Thanks for your videos! Despite the Q revo being very impressive for the price, to be honest you convinced me to get the s7 maxv ultra instead - despite each video essentially showing its disadvantages more than advantages haha. The reason was simply the video features and the best object avoidance, and I'm glad I chose it! Better dock cleaning on the Q revo is one thing, but to be honest, the biggest downside and headache and intervention required for robot vacuums is still making sure they don't get stuck. The maxv avoids so many obstacles the Q revo and even s7 Max ultra and s8 would plow right through (from your videos), it's a gamechanger for me. The only thing I have to watch out for is charging cables being tucked away, otherwise socks clothes shoes etc no problem. It's an amazing vacuum and over here not much more expensive than the Q revo will likely be when it comes out! Thanks for your videos, I'm a very happy first time robot vacuum owner :)

@@Tom--Ace Glad you like it! I try not to flat out recommend one vac over another since each person has different needs. Instead I try and focus on what are the performance results, features, and pros and cons and try to leave it up to people like you to figure out their own needs. Glad I could help. The S7 Maxv is one of my all time favorite vacuums.

@@jamie.andrews Thankyou I really like that about your videos, I had enough information to really compare the pros and cons. And for me it ended up being q revo as budget and overall best pick, s7 maxv the premium option with features I liked and wanted. A big factor for me was the mopping comparisons, and the fact the s7 maxv was still comparable to the rotating pads on the Q revo was a decider, because I didn't want to go with an older mopping system if it was going to be inferior. One thing I would like to see is mopping performance in grout lines of deep grooved kitchen tiles (our kitchen tiles have deep groves in the grout lines, that the s7 maxv has trouble reaching - I wonder how the Q revo would fair here). I like your tabasco/hot sauce test, I tried a few different things on my floor including dried coffee, Coke, sweet chilli sauce and Tabasco and tabasco hot sauce is definitely tougher to get out, so it's a good test! I suspect the Q revo's mop pads might get at grout lines better but do far I haven't seen that in any reviews.

@@Tom--Ace I have not yet seen a robot be able to clean grout lines. For this I use a wet dry mop like the Dreame H12 Pro to get in the grout. Trust me hot sause always ends up in my grout and it won't get romoved by a robot so I don't think you are missing anything by not getting the Q Revo. That is cool that you ran some tests yourself and I am glad you found the hot sauce to be hard one to get clean. I use a heat gun to bake it on the tile floor.

Glad you like them! I appreciate the support!

Good point on the handles and the water tanks. I am glad to hear that you also prefer the Q Revo over the Ultra dock. Thanks for the support!

Thanks! Glad I could help! Come back and let me know how you like the Q Revo

That information is in the specific reviews for each. For the Q Revo here is that link kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qrOFq9yZ3Jmse6M.html and for the Ultra dock here is the direct link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ndhgZ8hhzr2nnmQ.html

Thanks for your support!

Thanks so much!

My pleasure!

First off thanks so much! It depends on the robot. Most robot can climb up to about 3/4 of an inch. It also depends on how persistent the robot is with the navigation. Roborock is likely your best bet imo.

Glad it was helpful!

If you are in the US Amazon Prime Day sale is coming up!

Thanks for the support! 1 mop wash at the beginning of the job, one wash in the middle of the job at the 10 minute mark, and one at the end of the job to wash the mop pads. Thanks for the question!

Thanks, please check back in and let me know how you like it. Working on a video right now on a little Q Revo hack so stay tuned!

I have been where you are with spotty wifi and setting up a mesh network is what fixed it for me. I use Deco. The robot would still work with spotty coverage on its own, but if it has a weak signal while vacuuming you would not be able to see it in the app.

Thanks so much for the support! I talked about this in the end of my Q Revo review video and I do think the Q Revo might be just a little too good for the price when compared to the S series.

Thanks for the continued support! The S7 MaxV Ultra is an excellent robot as are the others. Roborock not only listens, they make constant improvements to their products.

It feels like if you have kids or pets, S7 MaxV is the choice, if not then either Q Revo or S8 Pro Ultra. So great choice.

Your absolutely correct. There is no way to even try to keep up with the latest and greatest technology. I also own the S7 Maxv, and for a minute I was a little envious to learn about the new models.. But after using my Roborock for almost a yr now, I can honestly say that a vacuum brings me joy. 😂 I tell myself that I will not buy the latest top of the line model until mine no longer functions. Hopefully it will last several yrs to come, and by then the technology will be so good that we will no longer have to refill and empty the water tanks, and they will be totally self cleaning. I am pretty sure if I would have purchased a robot vacuum back when they first hit the market, I probably wouldn't be using it once the new wore off. I know so many people who ran out and purchased them when they first came out. Everyone was so impressed with them when they first bought one, but after using for a few months they got bored with using them. After awhile people got sick of having to empty the dustbins, and back then they didn't have robot vacuums that mopped. Most people who purchased one yrs ago have no idea that there are now robot vacuums that sweep and mop and can actually do both things at the same time. They don't pay attention to how far the technology has come because they figure they already own a robot vacuum that is most likely never used anymore and probably buried in a closet somewhere. My sister bought a Roomba probably 5 yrs ago. When I told her that I bought a robot vacuum she thought I was crazy for being so happy about mine. That's because in her mind, she figured in a few months time I would feel the same way about it as she does her roomba. She assumed the robot vacuums are still more of novelty thing, like hers is. She told me she has no idea where her roomba is at. She used it a few months and ended feeling like it's just as easy to vacuum and mop her floors the old fashioned way as it was to mess with running the roomba. She really didn't have much interest when I tried to explain to her the difference in my Roborock VS her Roomba from 5 or 6 yrs ago.. My point being, people who own older models, really don't consider that the technology on the robot vacs does advance and improve very similar to owning a newer smart phone. I also have a Aunt who owns one that she also bought when they first came out. When I told her i was thinking about buying a robot vacuum she told me that I could buy hers from her. She is another person who liked it at first because it was something new, but ended up never using after awhile. I tried to explain the features that my S7 maxv ultra have and how much I love it to both my sister and my Aunt.. I could tell that neither was paying much attention to me. It's not a topic of interest to people who already have robot vacuums from back when they first came out. They assume they can't be much different then one they already own and in time, the newness will wear off for anyone who buys one. Lol Anyway, my point is.. I am VERY HAPPY that I waited a few yrs to purchase my Roborock and that I did my homework on the brands and technology of them. Before I did any homework on which one to buy, I was about to go out and buy a Roomba and figured all robot vacuums are created equal. I planned on buying a Roomba with mopping, but didn't plan on the mopping feature being anything to functional. I just assumed Roomba is the brand to buy, because I always hear people mention the brand Roomba when referring to a robot vacuum. I HAD NEVER EVEN HEARD OF ROBOROCK brand before I decided to do some homework before going out and grabbing whatever Roomba model was on sale. Lol.. Boy am I glad I did decide to do some research before impulse buying. I actually had a Roomba in my shopping cart at the checkout lane once. Thankfully the checkout lanes were forever long and very slow that day. I ended up getting frustrated standing in line so long, that I didn't buy anything that I had in my shopping cart that day. That night actually googled the Roomba model that I almost purchased to read user reviews.. I believe that is what lead to learn about Roborock and several other top of the line brands..if I would have bought that Roomba that I had in my cart and knew nothing about.. I am positive I would be no different then my sister or aunt or anyone else who own robot vacuums but no longer use them. It's no different then the many different vacuums I have spent money on through the years. Everything from name brand full size upright vacs, to canister vacs, to stick vacuums, corded and non corded.. After awhile I wasn't happy with any of them.. I was always on the quest to find a vacuum that I would be happy with.. After a year of using my S7 Maxv Ultra, I can finally say that I have truly found a vacuum that I do not have buyers remorse.. It satisfies my needs more then I anticipated... Yeah now that the new has worn off there are a few things that are a tad bit tedious or kind of obnoxious dealing with.. But they are very very minimal things. When I don't feel maintaining the water tanks, or cleaning the sensors, roller brushes, water filter, I remind myself of the peace of mind I have waking up every morning to my entire house being vacuumed and mopped. I remind myself that there is significantly less dog hair in my home, even though my 4 legged best friend still sheds just as much as he always has.. For me the the monthly maintenance and filling the water tank is so much easier then constantly trying to keep up with my shedding dog and having to deal with a full sized vacuum on a regular schedule. My Roborock gets in places my expensive upright vacuum cannot get to. My expensive upright cannot even vacuum under my kitchen cabinets because the base of it is to high and won't get under the cabinets. I would have to use the broom AFTER vacuuming before I had my Roborock.. Talk about a pain in the butt. Lol I think it's way smarter for people to wait a few yrs when buying any kind of new technology... Hopefully I will get my money's worth from my S7 Max V. By the time I need to replace in a few yrs the technology will be even better then it is now. By waiting a few yrs the technology will be even better then the new Q model and whatever other new models are out now. Hence is why I am also glad I waited until last yr to purchase my first ever robot vacuum... Now days even the mopping features are very good. If I would have purchased one when they first came out, I am pretty sure the newness would have worn off quickly because the technology was not as advanced as now.. It's always better to wait awhile when it comes to upgrading any kind of thing technology related.. I am the same way when it comes to my smart phone. The newest models always sound appealing.. But they will be even more appealing if we wait a few yrs!

@@twohassles43 The S7 MaxV is lightyears ahead of robot vacuums that were on the market prior to 2015. I won't even bother reviewing a robot vacuum on my channel that does not have smart navigation as it is honestly just not worth it for me or anyone else. Roborock was the brand that came out to challenge iRobot and cut their price in half! I started my channel because of the Roborcok S4!

There is no camera on the S7 Max Ultra.

Thanks for watching!

You're welcome!

Great! It should hopefully serve you well. Please report back what you think of it. Would love to hear the feedback.

Glad it was helpful!

Check back in and let me know what you think.

@@jamie.andrews will do

The Dreame L10s Ultra or L10 Ultra come to mind. I have also tested the L10s Ultra here on my channel. The X9 Pro does not have an auto empty dock and I have not tested it.

Thanks!

Thanks for watching!

Enjoy it!

I really like your combo. Robots can't reach everywhere and can't deep clean and having the Tineco will cover those problem areas.

Glad I could help

It really depends on how dirty the floor is, how many pets etc. Those things can clog either filter fast. I would guess you would need to clean the Q Revo tray more often since the filter has less surface area and could clog more easily. It is a good thing it is super easy to do. I have not even needed to scrub it yet, only rinsed it off with the kitchen sink hose sprayer. I suspect most people don't think to clean the filter on the Ultra dock since it is out of sight and described as self cleaning. Roborock recommends on average you should clean it every 2 weeks. They also started putting a sticker on the dock reminding you of this.

Thanks! The docks are not cross compatible and Roborock no longer sells the docks separately.

I have heard the S series handles hair a bit better.

They have an optical sensor on the front underbelly that causes the robot to reverse if you have it set to avoid carpets while mopping. If you have it set to lift the mopping pads it will lift them and cross the carpet or rugs. The optical sensor works well on these.

Thanks for the feedback and suggestions. None of the mops are going to clean grout very well at all. I suggest a vacuum mop combo like the Dreame H12 Pro which has a roller that can drop down in the grout to clean stains.

What coupon is that?

Glad to hear! They are both excellent cleaning robots!

The Q Revo was launched in Europe at July 14th.

@@nKrandom Ty for letting me know.

I would go new over refurbished.

Please know these were my simple tests done in my home and they could change with a firmware update as that can be controlled in that way. Here is what I do know for certain. Roborock claims the Q Revo can handle up to a Max of 400sqm and the S7 Max can only handle 300sqm. I do know the Q Revo mop pads tend to hold more water as well so maybe this is why? I can also tell you I ran a test with the Q Revo where I put the water output to high and ran it for 25 minutes and it sounded like it had very little water on it with me shaking and listening It does return to the dock after a max setting of 25 minutes for a mop washing. Unfortunately this is a hard thing for me to test for with a small home and limited time. I wish I could answer you more precisely.

@@jamie.andrews that makes great sense thank you for taking the time to help us out. Does the s7max also have a max setting of 25 minutes to return to doc? Or is it not limited in that way?

@@hoopbull The S7 Max can go all the way from 10 minutes to 50 minutes. Likely due to the larger onboard water tank.

I use the manufacturer's suggested products at the dilution ration they suggest. The solutions have never been a problem for me. Here is what I use in my Roborock mops. amzn.to/3Ny14sP

@@jamie.andrews thanks so much!

Thanks for the great questions! 1. Not that I have noticed. The removable one does not leak either on the MaxV. 2. I heard it was because the old style would tangle easily on rugs. I never had that issue, but I can tell you the old style loved to get hair wrapped around it and this new style greatly improves with that.

I plan on doing a head to head between these 2. I started back using the L10s yesterday so I could begin my thought train. Stay tuned and thanks so much for the support!

@@jamie.andrews did you already have some comparisons done between the Q Revo and the Dreametech L10S? I am thinking of buying one of these two. The Q Revo is 50-60EUR cheaper... Is the object detection that much worse? (I know the big difference is the Q Revo doesn't have a camera )

@@uwedepoortere174 I will have that video out soon!

Thanks DJ! I appreciate your comments and feedback. The S7 Max(V) Ultra and the S8 Pro Ultra docks will alert on water levels as well.

@@jamie.andrews Really, I thought I had read that this was only a feature on the Q Revo. I stand corrected. Thanks

@@DJ-HGLegacy I can confirm, had the message that my dock had no fresh water left last week on my S7 MaxV

They are pretty similar in functionality. My latest video might just answer your question :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aMCWntmJldO3iYU.html

I would lean towards the S7 Max as I have heard some recent reports of the auto empty system on the Q Revo getting clogged when used in homes with lots of pet hair. The S7 Max pulls it back through the roller brush opening which is larger and this design has been out longer with a good track record.

No totally different.

Thanks. The X2 will be out next month. I have already reviewed the L20. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q7mRq5eq1pbPc2Q.html

I don't have any information on a European release date unfortunately.

You can add a dock dryer to the older S7 Maxv Ultra dock. I have a video link in the description for that video. Unfortunately the docks are not sold separately.

Thanks for the sub!

Thank you! Detergent is not cheap.

Not yet.

Let me know how you like it!

Hahaha we men always want the coolest machine.

Life is too short not to get what you want. As long as you are paying for it you don't gotta ask permission from anyone lol

The are all 3 different designs. I will have a video out soon about the comparison of all of Roborock's dock.

Interesting as I normally hear the free floating brush on the S series is the one to scratch floors. On the Q Revo the brush and little felt pads are the only thing that comes in contact with the floors. With the S series there are little plastic numbs that come in contact with the floor and people say those scratch their floor. Personally I don't think either of the could scratch a floor with the roller cover and most certainly not the Q Revo as it does not come on contact with the floor and what is really happening is something gets stuck in the brush roller housing and that scraped across the floor or something gets stuck in the mop and that causes it. I have yet to have a robot scratch my floors. I'd say if you run the robot and see scratches as it runs return it for sure, but if we are talking about isolated incidents it is likely what I described.

My pleasure!

Noted

To answer your first question yes unless water usage is a big deal for you. I think the full floating roller brush is a bit better in some situations, but not by much.

Thanks! What do you mean by base wall?

@@jamie.andrews I mean the corner between the wall and the floor

@@fujijiimmy8783 Oh OK. I will actually do this exact thing when the Q Revo Maxv comes out since it hasa swing out mop.

The Revo dock is way more simple in design. I have low calcium in my water so it is not a problem for me. Different manufactures may have suggestions on what to use. Another subscriber reached out to Roborock and got an answer from them on what to use in the robot, but they did not have an official answer for the dock.

I really appreciate the compliment! If object avoidance is not a big deal I think it would be fine to go for the new Q Revo.

I am about to start testing that one next!

Thanks for the sub and support! The fast route option only cleans the center of the room skipping the area around the walls. If you recall the robot goes into a room and first cleans the perimeter and then cleans the center of the room last. Fast Route skips the perimeter which saves time. It is a useful option when you need the house cleaned quickly. If you are having to clean out the dustbin manually something is not right. Make sure the dust bag is not too full and the lid is fully sealed and not pinching the bag. If that does not fix it try cleaning just a few rooms at a time to allow the dustbin not to get too full.

The S8 Pro handled the sock and the shoe much better than the Q Revo and S7 Max.

25 minutes of mopping for the Q Revo and the S7 Max is a safe bet. Maybe similar for the S7 Max since it only has one water outlet and users report the outsides of the pad starts to dry up. I too have seen this on my small home.

My pleasure

I will have that video on my channel very soon. Stay tuned!

Yes

I cover this in the video around the 10:20 mark.

You don't move the dock. You select multiple floors in the app and move the robot to that floor to map and clean it. You would need to bring it back down and run a mop cleaning and auto empty manually after.

Wow that is old tech for sure, but glad to hear it still works like a charm. As for your question the obstacle avoidance on the Q Revo is extremally basic and the difference is fairly large in my testing compared to the S7 MaxV and the S8 series so if this feature is very important to you take a look at the S7 MaxV which is the best or the S8 Pro Ultra which is almost as good.

Not certain, but I think there are plans to launch this in Europe.

That option is not available yet in the US based Q Revo

@@nogridbag Why is it a function that will be implemented with future updates?... On the P10 (the Chinese version seems to have this option from a video seen on the net)

Thanks! That is a really good idea. My guess is there could be a US patent keeping Roborock from including that "wiggle your butt" feature.

Not really enough to justify, but the Max has a more powerful vacuum motor.

S7 Maxv gets closer to baseboards due to the mop design.

The tank can auto refill so it's not a big issue

It gets refilled when it goes back to the dock so I do not think it is a big deal. I never ran the tank dry and I tried.

Thanks! I appreciate that!

Unfortunately the S7 Pro Ultra is not available in the US so I can't really comment on the performance. I think the Q Revo will come to Europe at some point.

The robots don't really share the same consumables except maybe the filter. While you could use the old style brushes on the S7 Max, I would buy the ones for the S7 Max because they are a bit better imo. The Ultra docks share the roller brush that scrubs the mopping pad and the share the same bag as well.

I'm still testing, but for most people the Qrevo series is all they really need.

No

Roborock does not say.

That is correct. iRobot owns a patent for having a dustbin detect when it is full so other manufacturers won't have it. I'll be glad when the patent expires.

Many thanks!

I suspect the Ultra dock might handle lots of hair better since it pulls the contents of the internal dustbin through the roller brush opening which is larger than the small opening of the Q Revo.

I feel like there isn't a dog around who sheds more then my dog. The robovac S7 MaxV Ultra has actually caused me to relax better in my own home. It has given me way more peace of mind! I feel more relaxed in my own home, because I know my floors are getting swept and mopped daily. The best part is I have it scheduled to sweep and mop so that when I start my day, I wake up to clean floors. Don't get me wrong, my dog definitely doesn't shed any less. Even though I wake up to clean floors, the dog shakes his fur everywhere the min he gets out of bed. I swear he knows the shedding drives me nuts and he shakes his coat just so he can remind that he is a dog, and that dogs shed.. Lol.. No matter what though, I feel way more comfortable that the amount of dog hair that flys from my dog everytime he shakes his coat does not accumulate like it did before I owned my S7 MAXV ULTRA. There is no possible way for any dog owner to get past the fact that dogs shed. But my days of searching for a solution to keep the dog hair and dog drools to a min have ended. I do not have time or energy to spend everyday sweeping and mopping my entire house. At least now it gets swept and mopped daily, and I only deal with sweeping and mopping the old fashioned way on the weekend. If I don't feel like lugging around my vacuum and mop on the weekend, I just skip doing it. Without the nagging feeling in my mind that so much dog hair is accumulating around me... Even though dog hair was my biggest battle before buying the robot, it's also nice to know that dust is not accumulating on my luxery vinyl flooring and carpet. You will be surprised at how much dust accumulates on a daily basis, once u own a robot vacuum. Having the robot cleaning on a daily basis, I notice that the dust bin doesn't get nearly as full as it used to. Because now I am able to keep all hair and dust to a minimum... Even though the robot does require some preventive maintenance about every 6 weeks. I would much rather keep up with the preventive maintenance then constantly worry about vacuuming and mopping. I have bought plenty of vacuums in the past, and still never felt like I was ahead of the dog hair battle. I honestly feel like the Roborock gets to areas that my upright vacuum could never get to. It wouldn't surprise me if there is less dog hair using the Roborock then using my top of the line vacuum. Sorry this is so long. I sound like I am doing a commercial for Roborock. Lol.. Honestly it's one of the best of purchases I have ever made. I only wish I would have had it along time ago. It's one of those purchases that has made me realize, that it's something I won't ever want to be without... I kind of hate knowing newer models are on the market now. Lol. I would love to be able to buy the latest models everytime one comes out.. But a person can't try to keep up with new technology each time a new model comes out...just like we can't completely keep up with dog hair every time a new piece of hair falls from my dog.. Haha.. I will continue to remind myself that my S7 Maxv does a perfectly fine job keeping the dog hair to a minimum, and I won't splurge on a newer model until my Roborock absolutely needs to be replaced. Hopefully it will last A LONG TIME. Maybe by the time I need a new one the technology will be so perfect that it will be able to vacuum and mop my dog.. 😂 Hopefully you have made a decision on which Roborock to buy. If so I hope it brings u better peace of mind like mine has for me. I think u said u would buy it on Amazon prime day, which has already came and went. I bought mine from Roborock during Black Friday last Xmas. It was the lowest price that I have ever seen them be. If you haven't bought one yet, Black Friday sales will be your best savings.. Enough about Roborock.. I have now officially made my longest comment ever.. Roborock should send me a free vacuum after for this much praise. Have a great day.

@@twohassles43 You indeed made a great choice! I am picky about my floors and walk barefoot around the house and can't stand there to be grit on the floor!

@@twohassles43hello...thank you for your input on these with dogs. We have two dogs and I am really struggling with which robot to choose. One of our dogs has accidents during the night on occasion and I am concerned with poop detection for that reason. Do you have any input on that aspect of these vacuums? I am waiting for Black Friday pricing to buy but want to make the right choice. I currently have a Roomba J7+ combo which I love but it's too hands on without the self cleaning mop and limited water storage. Thank you for any help you can offer!

The S8 Pro has a better object avoidance system and dual rollers. If those matter to you go for the S8 Pro.

It is worth the money if you care about or want the upgrades you get with the S8 Pro Ultra. It is hard for me to recommend robots to people since prices and needs greatly vary between countries and people so instead I showcase their features. The S8 Pro has dual rollers and batter object avoidance. If you don't care about that go cheaper.

Btw great reviews by far the best thst i have seen, glad i fundamentalmente your channel

There have been a few people complaining about large amounts of hair and Q Revo having trouble. I do not think this is the majority of people and I have also heard the same from the Ultra docks, but it might be a better designed system for large amounts of hair IMO. My Q Revo has never failed to empty the internal dustbin though. 1 tip is to clean the floors with an upright vacuum prior to starting to clean with the robot. Then you may want to clean a few rooms at a time instead of the entire house which will keep the dustbin from overfilling.

Thanks so much!

You are the second person to suggest this and I think it is a good idea. Thinking about using blue paper towels which should make it easier to see. Thanks for the suggestion!

Thanks so much! It sounds like you need a robot with good obstacle avoidance. Take a look at my Dreame L10s Ultra review and I will also have the review for the L20 Ultra out this Sunday. Both have great object avoidance systems.

Both are about 97mm or 3.8 inches.