This is one of the best comparisons of an electronic gadget I have seen online. Very relevant and actually helps a buyer to decide easily. You deserve a Thank you for your extensive work. 👍👍👌👌

Excellent review and it covered everything I needed to know about comparing the two that I'm considering....very helpful and thank you!

Thanks for sharing, Jamie, this is really in deep review.

I found your channel today, watched a view videos and immediately subscribed. i love your style and no BS commenting on the results.

Fantastic and very thorough review. Loved how you did the hot sauce challenge three times because you couldn’t believe the results. Your viewers thank you!

Thank you for the detailed comparison!!

Great video ❤ excellent comparison 👏

So... Newer and more expensive isn't always better.

Thank you for great comparison video. I am glad just two days ago ordered s7 maxv :)

Excellent video! Thank you so much for the information! It’s been quite helpful! Greetings from 🇲🇽!!

Love this video good stuff! I keep watching reviews like these because I recently bought a "renewed" S7 MaxV Plus and man this things does wonders I absolutely love it. Kinda wish I got the ultra however I didn't have the money for it at the as I got my MaxV Plus for $800 after tax ! I'm happy with my purchase all in all thank you again 🙏🍾

A great video Jamie. Thanks. My house is mostly carpet and my current robot is an Ecovacs T8 AIVI which I am pretty happy with but being a gadget lover I will definitely be upgrading it at some point. From my experiences with carpets there is one difference in the S8 Pro Ultra that looks very interesting - the wider wheels. I find that because my Ecovacs runs daily and always does the same boundary sweep in the same direction at the start of cleaning each room over time it leaves track marks around the edges of the carpets and “crop circles” in the corners where it does its 90 degree turns. Having wider wheels presumably distributes the weight over a bigger area so if the s7 & s8 are of approximately equal weight then I would expect the s8 to be kinder to carpets in terms of being less prone to leaving track marks. It’s a bit of a shame that Roborocks don’t have dual side brushes because then it could do a boundary sweep in either direction with a corner brush always hugging the wall. That could allow Roborock to do something clever in the software by, for each room on the map, recording the direction that it used for its last boundary sweep and making sure it alternated directions on successive cleans which might also help reduce track marks because it wouldn’t always be driving the same way relative to the pile of the carpet.

Perfect comparision. Love my S7. Thanks you!

Great bunch of videos Jamie! Thank you for all the hard work and time you put in to bring us these top notch videos.. They were all very well made, to the point, sharp, and most important of all, informative . I have an apartment with mostly carpets and was considering either the S7 MaxV Ultra, S8 Pro, and the Dreame L10S Ultra, after watching your video comparing it to the S7 Max V and EcoVacs. But I still can't make a thorough decision. I have an apartment with mostly carpets, not many places to mop, if any. My wife and I both have long hair, and a cat with very short hair. However, I want to future proof as well because we might move out or get rid of a carpet or two. Which robot would you suggest? I think a carpet robot shootout would be a fun idea for a future video. Keep up with the great work you're doing and cheers!

Just found your channel today and immediately subscribed! Thank you for the excellent informative videos that aren't just another infomercial. As someone who has 0 use for a mopping function or the ability to avoid animal waste I'm having a tough time deciding if any of the current roborock offerings (or any robovac currently available, really) are worth the money in my situation. I have a j7+ and an S9+. One downstairs one up. My biggest complaint with both of them is their feeble navigation, the S9's complete lack of obstacle avoidance and how long they take to clean. The j7+ is also starting to become very buggy which is unfortunate. I end up just not running them most of the time due to the noise and dust they kick up while running because they are so slow. The poor obstacle avoidance on the roborock models particularly for cables is a huge letdown especially considering my j7+ seems to run screaming for the hills at the first sight of a cable which IMO is its greatest strength! For use exclusively on low pile carpets, for an extreme allergy sufferer where keeping dust out of the space provides a lot of value, do you believe any of the vacs currently on the market are worth the money considering what I've already got? Thanks for any help!

Fantastic review. Ive had my S7 max for 2 years now and its going strong. If I upgrade it'll be to the S7 V Max

bro is MVP of vacuum reviews much love mate!

Great video, thanks for detailed comparison. After watching your video did some further research and got the understanding that Roborock has S7 Max and MaxV two different model, out of which the later one does not have the auto mop drying and its the older model. The naming of these products are always confusing to consumers.

It is brave to recommend S7 MaxV first over S8 Pro. I bought S7 MaxV a couple of months ago and have been happy. The new dock looks much better, but I don't want to give up remote camera and removable mop plate for it. S7 MaxV's color camera with obstacle picture tagging is next level stuff.

Excellent review. Just one note, throughout the review it is recommended to keep the editing sequence so that Model 1 is always on the left and Model 2 is on the right.

Very wel done and explained video. I think you're right on the conclusion. Rather than seeing it as competitors they might be alternatives to each other. I have mostly hard floors and the S7 performs better on that so for me I will be going for the S7.

I bought the S8 Pro (non ultra) and it does have the easily removable mop pad plate. It also has the single vibrating plate of the S7. The main reason I opted for the S8 was for the dual brushes since I heard past roborock’s were not great at getting pet hair out of carpet and that the dual brush helps a lot with that. So far it’s worked well and the mapping and obstacle avoidance certainly beats my older roomba. I do miss the automatic mop cleaning but I just couldn’t justify an extra $800 for that, instead I just bought a bunch of mop pads to swap out.

Great video. Cant imagine the time and effort you put in.

Thank you. You made choosing far easier.

AWESOME video and thank you. I was considering upgrading my 7 max to the 8, but after watching this will keep my tried and true 7. THANK YOU

Thanks for the vídeo bro! 🇧🇷

Great review!

Incredible work

Great review, thanks Jamie! Is the brush of the S8 touching the wheel?

I appreciate the video. You did a good job in this comparison. I have a S7maxv and I wanted to know if you are able to switch the water tanks? If not do you know if they plan on putting out an updated model for the S7 similar to the S8’s. I also wanted to ask if they are going to make a reusable dust bag/canister for the S7maxv. I heard at one point they were thinking about it but haven’t heard anything since. Any information is much appreciated.

Thanks for all this info!!!

thank you for your video! God bless you

Great video, this is super helpful.

Great video Jamie, can you add to your testing: sprinkle coffee grounds along the edges of the floor, but under the counter/cabinets? I find my S7MaxV Ultra is not able to do edges well. I know the robot is round, but it should only take a software update to drive into the edge (under the cabinets), bump its front sensor, back up and move over, and drive into the edge again (or a different route is okay too). I find it misses about 2 to 3 inches away from the floor's edge every time. I need to sweep a long the edge and push the dirt to the center of the room, so the robot captures all the dirt. The robot drives under the counter and does not think its an object, so it should be able to do a better job with edges. I would be really cool if you added this to your normal tests, if you have not done this already. After that, testing dirt in corners would be cool, but much harder for a totally round robot. Thanks again for another great comparison video! Keep up the excellent work!

Great review

awesome and thorough comparison as usual Jamie. Must say that mopping test was at the very least disappointing to say the least. Side question, on my S7 i was able to easily remove the front wheel to remove the hair, but on the S8 pro i cannot and im afraid to break smth if i pull too much, is it actually removable?

Thanks for another great video! Your thoroughness and clarity make you one of the best reviewers anywhere. I also waited for reviews on the S8 before I made my choice in late April, and I'm glad I did. For my own needs and convenience, the S7 is better. Aesthetically, there's no argument. The S8 is much nicer to look at. Otherwise, I'm very glad I bought the S7. I hope they can eventually add a warning about a full dust bin in a future firmware upgrade.

Awesome comparison 😊 What about hair Tangles which one performs better?

Great video. We decided to go with the S7 MaxV Plus over the S8 Plus. Your video definitely helped us in making this decision.

fantastic , thank you so much

Amazing, thank you for this grat video

Love your videos! I would love to see an update on this video. Object avoidance is my priority, from bumping into things generally and avoiding objects. The S7 MaxV Ultra seems the safe bet but wonder if the S8 has had updates in late 2023.

Well done review! Could you tell if the S7 maxV Ultra with the add on dryer works in a 110v outlet?

Great video! I got the S7 Ultra and Im very happy with it. Not going for an upgrade till they fix those big flaws. Plus Im not a fan that you have to use dust-bags with the ultra station. Btw why did you use 130g/54g of „dirt“ and not easily just 100g for easy comparison in percentages? :D

Your way of talking is very cute and funny! Thank you for the very precise and unbiased review, I wonder where does one buy the Garbage Collectors afterwards, not sold on Amazon as single items maybe must find some official site. For a couple of years I wanted to buy the Viomi robots that appear to be most superior but they aren't being sold over here on Amazon and it feels risky to just order one from Alibaba (despite Jack Ma being an awesome person)

Im waiting for a comparison between the roborock s8 ultra and the dreamebot L20 ultra.

Awesome video Jamie!! Thanks for all your hard work!! My choice was the S7MaxV Ultra, and I even waited to purchase it after the new S8 came out!! The removable water tank and mop plate is a win for me!! With multiple levels, much faster and easier to do!! Seeing you still have to pick up robot to take to different level, much faster to do when leaving out the door. This video makes me happy I chose the S7MaxV Ultra! I also got it on sale for $1000, so that is a win win!! My S7MaxV Ultra is performing very well and have zero complaints so far!! Thanks again for this great video from someone who really loves and researches new tech!!👍🔥👍

Could you do a comparison of the s8 with the dreametech l10s

Great channel and comparisons that you are doing. Can you please advice me is it worth paying more for Roborock S7 MaxV Ultra / S8 Pro compared to Dreame L10S Ultra ? Is there a big gap between them for everyday simple hard floor cleaning / mopping plus one medium carpet ?

I really hope RR isn't done with the reactive AI/remote viewing technology as their other obstacle avoidance efforts are just not in the same ball-park atm. Fingers crossed for an S8 Max V Ultra at some point!

This is a great video. I would love to hear your thoughts on the new S7 Max Ultra (non-MaxV) which will be coming out, vs the S7 MaxV Ultra.

Hi, I have the S7 Max V Ultra and am wondering if the dock requires any maintenance outside of changing the dust filter, water debris filter, and spinning brush.

Awesome video!! the most of my house is covered with carpet all year round except for the summer, and I feel confused between the S7 MaxV Plus and the S8+ knowing that the S7 MaxV plus in my country is more expensive than the S8+ by 80$. So what do you think is the best one for me?

❤ excellent review❤ I have a three-level house and use 2 Roomba vacuums for the first and second floor. The vacuums at the time were sold in black , which has been a problem with the baseboards being marked with black bumper marks. I purchased some Velcro and that solved the problem. I do not have keep out zones and the Roomba frequently gets stuck under chairs and next to rugs. The rugs have tassels and the side brush frequently gets entangled. I will not purchase a Roomba again as their technology has not kept up with the competition. 👎👎😢

I just bought the S8 and Amazon just lowered the price of the 7 to $1,000. I was wondering what you thought now that they update the 7 to have the same camera system as the 8 and integrated the drying. Seems like the 7 is an even better value. I’m seriously considering returning it and getting the 7. But! (There’s always a but) the new dock, as you said looks WAY better. The question is, is that worth $600 to me! That is a huge delta! I was more inclined to return it when it had the camera with live view. That is a really cool feature that is now gone on both. Thanks for the great co tent and you got a new sub from me!

Hello. I can't find any reviews of the bluepunkt omega vacume mop robot. Think it might be good?

very good comparison, you are one of the best when it comes to comparisons of vacuum robots! There is a water refill station for the S7 Maxv Ultra. Do you think it would work with the S8 Pro Ultra?

Just an idea… how about a robo vac that cleans but also does security checks/ laps around your house whilst you’re out?

Great comparison with unexpected results. Will you also compare the s8 pro ultra to the q revo?

The dual vibrating plates....are the vibrations synced to be opposite of one another? Would it be possible for the motor vibrations to occasionally cancel one another out to a degree, causing less cleaning?

Yup he pads that hold the mop pad are more secure in the older model

I've used the S5 MAX for 3 years. My bedrooms are carpeted and the living room has an 8x10' area rug. I have an Australian Shepherd who sheds a LOT! The S5 Max's single roller brush with bristles picks up the hair well, but gets dog hair wrapped around it a lot, including at the ends, and the dustbin fills up quickly, so that I have to pause vacuuming after each two rooms to empty it. So, I decided to get the 8+ for its auto-emptying feature (mopping isn't that important to me). I really looked forward to using it, especially the auto-emptying, even if I still had to stop the vac every two rooms so that it could return to dock and empty. BUT, I was severely disappointed to find that the S8+ won't even pick up the dog hair on carpet, certainly not much of it. The clumps are still there on the carpet after vacuuming, even if I do a room 3 times! I also had it set to Max+ vacuuming strength. I could literally watch the S8+ ride directly over the hair and not disturb it. So I would either have to pick up the hair clumps before or after vacuuming. The vac does auto-empty fine, but it didn't make my effort doing vacuuming any more successful or easier. So, I returned the S8+. Its 2 roller brushes, which lack bristles, just don't do a good job of picking up dog hair. I didn't assess its performance on non-carpeted areas, because the hair was more visible on carpet. I have no reason to think any of the other S8 models would do any bette if they have the same kind of brush system, and based on other reviews I've read, I don't know of a self-emptying vac from another brand that would be any better, either. If any of you do, please let me know. The S7 MaxV Ultra gets good reviews, but I don't know if it would be any better for my situation. It also seems to almoat be discontinued, as it's unavailable most placesnive looked. Thanks!😮

Hi Jamie, you don't make it easy 😊😊 I'm really looking at the S8 as it is new, has new features and isn't a year old so should get more firmware and features added to it. However I'm also looking at the S7 MaxV as it is a bit cheaper (not alot) and AI is better. Our house is mostly carpet but not high pile, I'm thinking if I have this running each day the difference in the carpet pickup shouldn't be an issue for the S7, would I be wrong here? We have only one cat so not too concern on pet hair but we have a 14 year old daughter for the life of her leaves all types of objects around the house, e.g pens pencils etc, I'm thinking the S7 could be better in this. I know you went over it but are you able to re-highlight the different options in the app between the 2 as that could be the decider. Also I was wondering in the mopping example, could the S7 have done a better job that the S8 due to the rollers going ??

Hi Jamie, can you please tell me about the life time of s7 maxv altra? After how many years I have to change battery n separately battery price. As this stuff is too expensive for me. Thanks

My much cheaper Ceotec has died, and I was looking at getting the S8, its a huge jump forward. But now confused which is best for dog w/ some rugs. :(

Thank you for making this video - it is very helpful Jamie!

Amazing video kind Sir! Thank you for the extremely detailed video, it helps me figure out which one I'm getting, which unfortunately will be the S7 MaxxV Pro Ultra. I really wanted the S8 to win in all categories, but alas they flopped big time on the dual roller design. Not sure how their engineers and designers did not see the gap issue with their rollers, but it was very obvious to me the first time I saw it, and I'm no engineer (although I design PC hardware so maybe that helps? lol). They should've redesigned their rollers in the S8 so that one roller complements the other roller and creates an almost perfect seal with each other. I have an iRobot Roomba i6+ and that is how they design their rollers. Works great on almost all surfaces. I appreciate the unbias views you provide on the products. I hope your channel gets more views and good luck to you and your channel! :)

Hmm. Personally aftering watching this (and countless other reveiws) i'll stick to my S7 MaxV Ultra! I wanted to gauge if it was worth getting a second S7 Maxv Ultra for upstairs, or if we should "upgrade" to the newer S8. Seems to me the S7 is the clear winner! AND here the S7 MaxV Ultra is $1800 VS $2700 for the S8 Pro Ultra. And where i am, you can't get the S8 Pro Ultra in black, it only comes in white, where as the S7 comes in both black and white! Mind made up! Seems i'll keep an eye out when the s9 comes out to see if there's any noticeable upgrades! Thanks for the review!

Great video.

I just bought s8 and then a found this video … I was curious about ai avoidance because my friend got also vaccum that can avoid obstacles like boots or dumbbells or cables so I was happy to have something better than him and now I’m wondering if I even want it now 😳 if shouldn’t be better return it and buy s7 vmax but it’s not in local store , I was studying s8 over 2 week and was hyped and now I’m scared or sad .. was something improved by updates ? Thanks

Thank you so much for such a detailed video! Thanks for the Any thoughts on the new S7 Max Ultra (not MaxV)? The Ultra (without the "V") added auto mop drying, got rid of the camera, and has slightly higher suction power (5500 Pa in the new Max, 5100 Pa in the MaxV). I read that the reason the MaxV is more expensive is the camera's ability for live video and video calls (plus the more advanced camera in MaxV may improve its object avoidance). Any thoughts?

I waited 6 mo to buy the s8 ultra pro bundle when I heard it was being released, so this was interesting. I really like the s8 but it’s my first robo vac and have nothing to compare it to personally.

which would you recommend for sewing thread pickup/tangling. Also avoiding a mirror that is 2 inches off the ground please ? also bagless would be good but not a deal breaker. thank you

I mostly have tile floors and 1 area rug .my concern is I have 3 dogs lots of shedding plus even mud paws . What do you recommend

I have not seen anyone make a straight rating on just mopping. I only have hard wood floors and no carpet so want the best mopping performance. Should I always run 2 passes? How does this compare to the X1 or other mopping robots at mopping alone? Thanks

This shows that big companies, (especially companies that lead in the technology they create e.g apple and samsung for mobile phones) all partake in what i call commercialisation or an "upgrade paradox". Purposely taking out bonified positive features, and inserting other features in a so called "upgrade" - leaving you wanting both features in a single product - thereby hoping that the next "upgrade" will have this. And the cycle continues in this way.

Have they fixed now any of the flaws you described in the video with firmware updates?

I have the new model and overall im happy however: if i dont hand clean the mop after 2-3 uses it leaves my floors greasy. Using a scheduled vac only doesnt empty the bin automatically

Another great review Jamie! In my opinion, S8 is lot of marketing, and does not take the s7’s soul hehe. S7 instead is a very concrete product. For who cares about real performances S7 is the winner, who cares most aesthetics then will choose S8

Did you say that you need to manually press the “drying button” every time for the s7 dock? That sounds annoying. ?

awesome vid., thx so mutch. Ive no carpets on my home, so im going to buy V7. I need only mopping😂

How would you compare the bare S7 Vs. S8? In theory, better suction/double roll for carpet, better mopping - and obstacle avoidance sounds great. Though it's difficult to quantity how much better it's doing for real. Would you say it's worth 50% more? And - in case you have an S8+ dustbin at hand - could you confirm it's working with the separately available S7 auto empty station which is what some German forums are claiming? Thanks a lot!

The pad drying feature is a big seller for me

Can either be used in a two story house?

Loving my S8 Pro Ultra. It does so well with my dogs hair and kids daily mess

I had a cleanmate a few years back that i got rid of because it didn't work well with long dog hair. Is this still an issue even with top models like this? I don't want to clean the machine every other day.

Thanks for the S7vS8 duel. I went with your earlier advice getting the Dreametech L10s instead because we primarily have LVP floors with just a couple of area rugs under the furniture. I was wondering how a shootout between the Dreametech and the S8 would turn out but since you recommended the Dreametech over the S7 and the S7 over the S8 I guess a direct comparison isn't needed. Nice work on your testing regimen.

another advantage of s7 is you can purchase an auto water& detergent refill+empty module for the charging station. I have used it for several months and dont need to care about the water tank forever.

Will you do a comparison of the s7 maxv and s7 max ultra & how the compare to s8 pro ultra. All 3 are very similar but some key differences that could could make the difference.

Hi.. Im from Iraq. Thank you for your amazing vidios. I want to buy either Roborock S7 pro ultra or Dreamebot l10s ultra.. wich one is the best 😢

Hi. Im trying to choose which to buy today, unfortunately S7 MaxV is not longer avalible... Does the avoidance feature on S8 Pro has been fixed? Im plannig to have a cat and that would be a good feature to be working :P Maybe you guys could advise on which robot choose? Im looking for something that can mop and vacuum :P

I just saw this; so I canceled my order for the S8 and wanted to change for S7 MaxV Ultra and it’s no longer available (the V was limited)! I am more interested in floor washing than vacuuming so should I try the regular s7 Max Ultra?

Skits and rdctv episodes sound like a great idea! Just not a fan of the whole 5 min flashback that's actually just the entire last episode spliced into this one, you can safely assume your viewers are "caught up" and have seen the ups vid

Do you think getting extended warranty (5yr) is worth for s7 maxv? How durable is it?

Why would they make the mopping plate nonremovable? If you have to high of carpets you can’t use it

Something nobody ever mentions, which was very disappointing to me when I got my S8, is that the sidebrush is placed very poorly. It does not reach completely to the side of the robot, so when it runs along walls, the sidebrush does not clean against the wall.

Very interesting indeed. Vaccum Wars came to similar conclusions, and you two are my most trusted for robot vacuums. But in their test, even deep carpet cleaning was inferior on the S8 which they think is due to lower airflow, so I'm not sure it's even guaranteed to have that going for it-testing varies of course, as this video proves. Won't be "upgrading" and will stick with my S7 MaxV. I agree with you that technically the MaxV's are a different and superior product line, so the S8 is not necessarily the direct successor. Do you think the new app features will be coming to the S7 MaxV very soon?

The S8 has worked better for dog hair, I like the new dock more but agree the mop isn’t any better. A rotating mop attachment like Narwal would be ideal.

would you list best ones for carpet in each price segments? below 200$, 200-400$,400-600$,600-750$,above750$? you can make video with best ones for different purposes in different budget, so users can decide which ones are better in their needs. I haven't seen a website or channel to do it this way as it's more productive & informative for users . there can be 2-5 recommendations for each price categories and purposes

can you pair a s7 maxv vacuum with an s8 pro docking station?