To be fair, when you're making a mod, you're not trying to make it as balanced as possible or even necessarily fit in with the rest of the game, you're just trying to make something interesting and fun to try out. Plus, obvious ideas take up many of the slots of the base game, so modders have to make things that are more complicated, and thus, harder to balance.

@@dracoblizzard7944 But I'd argue that you should consider some semblance of balance if you are to ensure the longevity of your mod. In some old games I played (Sins of a Solar Empire, FTL), if the currently popular mod(s) are not balanced at all, especially for the former since it's multiplayer, they won't be as long-running as they are now. Granted Balatro isn't old enough for this to be considered, so we just wait.

I think it is fine, I just think they didn't think about the combo with the voucher, otherwise as a rare it isn't tooo op, it would only combo hard with Perkeo, but then what doesn't

@@mathiassven yeah that's true, and the voucher seems like it gives like a 50% chance of negative which is also ridiculous

@@mathiassven Compare this to other xMult rare jokers (not Cavendish since banana is common and needs you to find another banana). The group of hand jokers can only give you mult on specific hand, and the strongest (x4) requires you to play 4 or 5 oak which is not trivial unless you tune your deck. License gives x3 if you have 16 enhancements. Hit the road requires discarded jacks, so it also tops at x3 without tuning. Baseball can give x5, but you need 4 other Uncommon jokers which is, well, uncommon. Even Campfire, one of the strongest Rares, needs you to cycle 8 consumables to reach x5 every ante, double that after the patch. This one gives you up to x5 for all hands by just gathering consumables, with no requirement to tune your deck nor restricting Joker choices, and the fact that Alch boosters put cards in your consumables instead of used directly like others doesn't help. This can even contend with some Legendaries, compare this with old Yorick, and consider the difference in difficulty between discarding 23 times and hoarding 4 consumables. It has 2 effects (which is already something Thunk would rather not do) and both are really strong. If it's just the mult it would have been pretty strong already.

I don't think the mult needs to be tuned down, I think it just needs to not give +2 consumables. If it didn't, it would give a max of x5 without negatives, x4 if you aren't relying on random voucher spawns at all, and x3 if you're playing a deck that doesn't start with 3 slots. There are only 2 real ways to get negative consumables in the mod: Perkeo and the voucher that gives negative Alchemy cards. I do think the spawn rate of negative Alchemy cards needs to be turned down, but even that still relies on getting the random spawn voucher in the first place.

@@kabobawsome I also think not giving +2 slots would be the best way to balance this out.

I was wondering the same thing. I suspect it would probably make permanent Polychromed cards

You keep the polychrome copies

i would have dropped the pants for that XD

I guess we are on non alpha version tho

it does!

The official Balatro Discord has a modding section where you can find most of the mods available for the game as well as more detailed installation instructions than I can give in the description.

stops them from being your last used consumable for fool

​@esotericCult ok so there's no max cap or you don't delevel another planet? Good to know

@@Stickbug37 No, but it *is* mostly irrelevant, though, when you're going for the late game - you basically have to build for a single hand type, so anything else is just fluff.