Rograkh/Thrasios - Turbo Temur

Rograkh/Thrasios - Turbo Temur | cEDH Deck Tech

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Today I'm talking about Rog/Thras, one of the hottest decks in cEDH right now and my personal favorite to play in the format. I go over the power of these two Commanders, what the goal of the deck is, the different combos, the key cards in the list, how to approach mulligans, and why it's so fun to play.
Let me know down below what you think of this list and what deck I should cover next!
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Chapters
0:00 - Intro
1:22 - Why Rog and Thras?
2:43 - The Combos
5:42 - The BIG Mana Plan
8:35 - Key Cards
10:49 - Earthcraft
12:42 - Creatures
16:47 - Instants, Sorceries, and Six
19:38 - Artifacts and Enchantments
20:44 - Lands
22:12 - Mulligans
25:18 - Wrap-up

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@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

A card I didn't mention is Displacer Kitten, which I'm currently not on because it feels a little win more and hard to setup at times, but certainly works well with what the deck does! Let me know what you think of Rog/Thras!

@tony_stromboli_3151 Ай бұрын

I currently have it to test. Could be win more. But it’s nice since we have so many ETB effects. Blinking an Imp Recruiter/Spellseeker/Trophy Mage/Eternal Witness feels nice to double dip

@hellproof2379 Ай бұрын

My buddy tore me up with kitten etali. But like you said .. may be good as is. It’s clunky

@jmcomparan Ай бұрын

Here is a question, since relic of legends is such a top performer, would honor worn shaku be worth considering, or is colorless just so much worse that it isn’t worth the thought to have a worse 2nd copy of relic?

@tony_stromboli_3151 Ай бұрын

⁠@@jmcomparanthe colorless probably wouldn’t be worth it honestly

@tony_stromboli_3151 Ай бұрын

@@hellproof2379what else happens is that it doesn’t stay for long. Easy target for removal or stealing

@M15CH13F Ай бұрын

I absolutely love these in depth cEDH deck breakdowns. I’d love to see many more.

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Thank you!

@M15CH13F Ай бұрын

@@LemorasCards thank you for making the videos. It’s really helped me get into cEDH and grow as a player.

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

@@M15CH13F happy to help!

@123rulz 2 күн бұрын

Hey man thanks so much for this video! I've had trouble finding a CEDH to actually stick to and learn but this one has been a blast!

@LemorasCards 2 күн бұрын

I'm happy you've been enjoying it!

@NickNicolay-ih4zi Ай бұрын

Awesome video as always! Thanks for making lunch breaks at work something to look forward to!

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.

@tony_stromboli_3151 Ай бұрын

Been building this for a few weeks after reading the Sam Black article. Have a few tweaks and differences but I really love this thing!

@tony_stromboli_3151 Ай бұрын

Have you ever considered Signal the Clans aka Gruul intuition? I run Goblin Matron, so I’ll Signal for dockside, imp recruiter and goblin matron. Can also be tutored for with spellseeker!

@jynx1345 Ай бұрын

Deck list 😇?

@MisterWebb Ай бұрын

List please!

@tony_stromboli_3151 Ай бұрын

@@jynx1345on moxfield ThRogsios

@tylercraig5633 Ай бұрын

I hate how good this deck is. Super resilient and annoying to play against. Matt has thumped me so many times on this list

@MRAIClassroom Ай бұрын

I think you are doing amazing work!! Since you always ask for any ideas or what we want to see… I would love a video that tells/shows how to defend against maybe like the top 16 decks? (Maybe not all in one video however u think it would be best). But i play kinnon so I know like counter the artifact tutors and kill kinnon and get rid of basalt monolith… obviously sometimes and some decks its not always cut and dry, but ideas for attacking decks. What’s the best way to defeat krirk and saka. As a noob this would be super helpful!

@coletonmiller9542 Ай бұрын

Great vid. You're crushing it with content man, keep it up.

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Appreciate it!

@TripsAhoy Ай бұрын

Def a cool deck tech vid. Mr. Gaddock Teeg approves! ❤❤❤

@teamf6920 Ай бұрын

Been waiting for this video.

@SHMITEY1 Ай бұрын

Youre the man. Thank you for doing this dude!!!

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

I do my best! Thank you!

@nealcrabtree3647 Ай бұрын

Thanks for this upload

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Thanks for checking it out!

@DefCatofficial Ай бұрын

its so cool to see roger + cradle

@Truthkills002 Ай бұрын

I would love to see deck techs and then some gameplay of you playing the decks. Whether its on spell table or in a tournament

@jaysuede2627 Ай бұрын

I found Relic of Legends especially interesting and am looking forward to trying it in a couple lists. It's not RogThras, but I anticipate making good use of it in Belbe.

@andersanders1265 Ай бұрын

Nice! Thanks

@danielrankin99 Ай бұрын

I have a version of this deck myself and i dont run the sticker goblin. Not because it's bad, but because i just refuse to deal with sticker sheets.

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Yep they're terrible.

@Josje1978 Ай бұрын

I thought they were banned from Magic.

@AUGOM0919 Ай бұрын

Been a pilot of Rog-Thras since its Polymorph days (and I do still prefer the polymorph) and I do have it right now almost similar to your build but just a tadbit cheaper (since our playgroup is strictly no proxies, not hating prox, just a deck building thing). I am yet to have the Cat, but surprisingly the deck really works.

@Johnny-bg2xx Ай бұрын

ayyyyy. let's goooooo

@dangomba7880 20 күн бұрын

Great video and great deck! I play a slightly different version myself. One question for you - have you considered Sylvan Scrying over Expedition Map? 1 less mana overall and can be found off Spellseeker.

@LemorasCards 20 күн бұрын

@dangomba7880 thank ya! I've thought about it, I think I like the flexibility of map and the colorless only though Scrying has its own strengths. If you're on trinket and/or saga map is definitely the way to go but I'm not on those currently so maybe.

@bend5963 Ай бұрын

Would you consider runnning breach for temur intuition piles?

@ClutchCrit Ай бұрын

Ooh I like the take of no shrieking drake. I've constantly viewed it as inseparable with earthcraft, but the combo is too hard to assemble even if on fertile ground/sprawl/wild growth or pivoting to relic + cloustone + rog. So thinking of it as a cost reducer like relic/birgi is huge and let's me be able to cut it! I'm still on the manual storm with kitten + song but have recently added seedborn + ring as a decent grindy option that can and will close the game if untouched. A card I'd strongly recommend to play is Legolas's quick reflexes. Being able to guarantee that you're untapping with consecrated sphinx/seedborn, or protecting any combo creature is huge. With earthcraft AND relic available it also provides enough tap outlets to tag the bowmaster/problem creature as needed. It pulls a little more weight for me since I need proactive protection I can cast into kitten/song turn, but the card is criminally under played

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

It's something I realized pretty early on when some of my games had Earthcraft be an insane draw even though I never saw Shrieking Drake. Busted mana production.

@Jakewarix Ай бұрын

Love this! I've been brewing Rog/Thras since beginning cedh, and with mh3, I FINALLY have the remaining cards to complete my build! Your Cradle direction inspired me to retool. It's made me realize I need to build within the community. Does anyone know of a Rog/Thras discord?

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

There isn't a public one I know of unfortunately but colors are a crutch discord has a chat for it

@Jakewarix Ай бұрын

@@LemorasCards love it! Thanks!

@aklepatzky 16 күн бұрын

Thanks for the video. Why arent you running kitten flare of denial or hbh?

@LemorasCards 15 күн бұрын

Hope you enjoyed it! I'm on Flare and HBH right now, still haven't slotted kitten back in but also I'm on a bit of a break from the list.

@hellproof2379 Ай бұрын

Idk if flare of duplication is as great as it is in rog si but I imagine it’s close. Card feels so damn good. Thanks for the amazing content

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Yeah they get more busted stuff to copy with it, we just have Rogr lying around more often to use it so there's pros and cons.

@InmAncalagon Ай бұрын

Keep in mind that Flare can double your own creature tutors so it can turn them into a win if you go get Dockside/Barrin or Dockside/Sabertooth

@BAdCommander Ай бұрын

Fav deck is tivit and kinnan. Not great at fast grixis decks. Been wanting to play this one in a tourny. Any advice for a reactive control player playing rog thras?

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

I've considered how I'd build the deck if I wanted to go with that plan. I think the counterspell suite changes a little bit and you maybe run less combos, but I'm not 100% on how it looks. The deck really can do that but you need mana and some kind of draw engine other than thras unless you have seedborn in play to do it well I think.

@BAdCommander Ай бұрын

@@LemorasCards thanks!

@tamyond.lawrence3158 Ай бұрын

Do you think toothy and pir are cedh viable

@hokmada Ай бұрын

Awesome vid! I’ve been following your deck since your last video! Just wanted to check, are there any replacement for sticker goblin? I was thinking of using jeska’s will instead since I could pair it with rograkh to utilise both parts of the card

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

I'm currently playing this list but with Hullbreaker Horror instead of sticker goblin. Not the swap you have to make but it's what I'm liking at the moment.

@hokmada Ай бұрын

@@LemorasCards Thanks for it! Will be taking this to my lgs tourney :D again good content and you inspire me to play rogsios haha. Also, is there a reason why you are not using thassa's with Thrasios?

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

@hokmada card quality too bad is really about it.

@LetsHokThis-wy7vs 13 күн бұрын

@@LemorasCards Hey! is there a reason why you are not playing mystical tutor in this deck?

@nevsterk2463 12 күн бұрын

Double checking! The deck list on Mox Field is different than the one in the video ? Or is it up to date ? Notably no sticker goblin in the one on Mox Field.

@LemorasCards 12 күн бұрын

The moxfield link is to the current list, which has seen a few changes.

@nevsterk2463 12 күн бұрын

@@LemorasCards I see you are off Consecrated sphinx do you think hull breaker horror and sphinx is too much in the same list ? And also what would you play over transmute artifact ? Haven’t fully committed into buying one yet. Currently playing windfall over it.

@LemorasCards 12 күн бұрын

@nevsterk2463 I think in a big open event I might not want to play either, the meta is pretty fast with Rog/Si eating us up pretty good so I could see cutting HBH for the same reason I cut Con Sphinx. It's pretty hard to make a clean cut for transmute since it has a pretty defined role in the list, so you could probably put any flex card in that slot.

@jacobhibbard6405 Ай бұрын

I love deck techs even if they’re outdated I just wanna know how the deck works that way I know more about the format

@414pseudo8 Ай бұрын

I don't know if it is just me but I have a hard time finding deck techs, so I'll take any I can get. Current or outdated as long as there's a good base on how it works I'll figure out anything not there from the deck list I just need help knowing what the deck wants to do.

@bigschaeff1 Ай бұрын

Love this deck! But i personally like dawnwaker thras more

@primeshifter1699 Ай бұрын

I wonder if anybody else would find interesting all the top decks shown for what turn they might win on , on average And maybe reasons why some are faster than others

@hotti9034 Ай бұрын

what about tolaria west as another cradle tutor?

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Older versions of the list were on it, I think it's just a little too bad at the two things it does to quite make the cut right now.

@InmAncalagon Ай бұрын

I'd rather play Sylvan Scrying than a tapland.

@BrashM Ай бұрын

Does Dosan ever give games to other players tho? I know timing is everything but let’s say you’re stopped by a channel land or something and have to pass, isn’t that bad?

@LemorasCards Ай бұрын

Definitely could come up, hasn't yet for me.