Rogue Territory vs Flint & Tinder: Waxed Canvas Showdown!

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Looking for an honest review of Rogue Territory and Flint & Tinder's waxed canvas jackets? Look no further! In this video, I share my opinions on both brands based on real-world wear.
While both have their own unique pros and cons, I'll give you my take on which I prefer and why.
I realise I probably overlooked a lot. So, let me know in the comments. I'm keen to hear your thoughts.
Rogue Territory Supply Jacket - bit.ly/3NqQchM / bit.ly/40YaQZQ / EU - bit.ly/44f1onH
Flint & Tinder Waxed Trucker - bit.ly/40V5y1p
Pants - 365 Pant - bit.ly/3Vncsen
T-Shirt - The Strike Gold - bit.ly/428IVYN
Boots - Viberg x Rivet & Hide
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My Favorite boots:
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:52 Fit & Sizing
04:18 The Feel
07:18 Pricing
07:56 Build Quality
09:20 Availability

Пікірлер: 88

@Schraiber Жыл бұрын

I was in the market for a waxed jacket for a while and ended up going with the Freenote RJ-1. Body lined with 100% cotton and really nice satin sleeve lining. Also really like the details on it, love the type 2 vibe with pleats and stuff. I think they increased the price by 50 bucks with the latest drop which is a bummer, glad I got mine from the last drop.

@alanc6468 Жыл бұрын

I have a bunch of wax jackets from all these KZfaq recommendations and RGT gets the most compliments.

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

It certainly is the best looking when on. Cannot disagree there hah

@bonecollector1968 Жыл бұрын

I have both jackets also. Love them both. The RGT is in my opinion slightly put together better and it's all about styling and profiling in. Lol. The F&T gets more time for sure it's more of a work jacket imo. If I had to choose just one it would be the RGT for sure. It looks so good on and I can layer with a thin flannel or a long sleeve tshirt.

@ricardoarciniega6618 8 ай бұрын

Great I just got on on the way. I have a few filsons, so something snug will be a welcome

@danielbigelow8704 Жыл бұрын

I have both and did the same with sizing. XL in the RGT and L in the F&T is perfect. I find myself grabbing the F&T most days because it's so easy to throw on and wear, but I do love having the RGT for those specific days and outfits. great review, loved it!

@StrokeofJeanius Жыл бұрын

I ordered and received both of these jackets at the same time to compare them and choose which to keep a few months ago. Ended up with the RGT because it fit me so well. It’s got a unique aesthetic and the tan color works so well paired up with denim. I like the F&T jacket too but it was a bit too boxy for me. Great comparison!

@jasonkrasowski4673 Жыл бұрын

I’m so glad I’m not alone!! I got the RT last fall, and should’ve sized up as the jacket looks great unbuttoned but is too snug with anything more than a tshirt. And if it’s even a little warm out and you only have a tshirt on, your arms will sweat because it doesn’t breath and it feels wet and terrible. All this to say, I don’t find many opportunities to wear it and am considering selling it.

@star42 9 ай бұрын

I was sucked in by the Bond-effect, and went and purchased the RGT jacket. Had to size up. Overall it is a quality garment, and fits fairly well (if you get your right size). Looks absolutely boss on. But you nailed it on the head regarding functionality and usability: it really is difficult to find the right weather to wear this. There is a very fine set of circumstances when the temperature, humidity, and acitivity level are just right, where this jacket works. Otherwise you will either be cold and clammy, or hot and sweaty.

@adrianboutsias2437 Жыл бұрын

Amazing comparison Cameron! My brother and I own both jackets and I just wish that you had this review out when we got them - would have saved us lots of sizing headaches!

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

Thanks man. Appreciate it!

@mr_glasses Жыл бұрын

Like @schraiber, I also have the Freenote Cloth Riders jacket and it's fantastic. Love the design, feel, construction etc. It's pricier, but when comparing materials and design to the other options, you can kind of understand why.

@PizzaHomie Жыл бұрын

Love what Rogue Territory has been doing! I'm hoping they restock their sashiko Type 3 trucker some time soon.

@xjoexedge Жыл бұрын

thank you for the video! I was thinking about both of these but the look of the Rouge Territory jacket still has me hooked. Just the sizing is whats putting me on the fence. Its hard to buy two different sizes and send one back. Nice to see an update on how the jacket is breaking in for you.

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

Thanks Joe, it probably didn't come across too clear in the video, but I do love the RGT one. I just wish the weather here was more fitting for it. I really haven't had any good moments to wear it.

@xjoexedge Жыл бұрын

@@CameronO I am in the same boat living in Boston and similar weather but I think if i can get a layer under it i can get on wearing it for a few months a year. I think I can get one similar size to my pointer brand denim jacket.

@telemarktumalo6978 7 ай бұрын

I'm wondering about comparing the Flint & Tinder lined Waxed Trucker vs. the line Rogue Territory lined Supply. The lining of the two appears similar. Loved your comments about sizing. Probably, no bigger contrast than Japanese sizing vs. USA sizing. Reviews such as yours really helps a potential buyer. Much appreciated.

@ironshopprovisions4699 Жыл бұрын

Love the video. Strong work!

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

Thanks my man!

@irfannurkanovic3715 Жыл бұрын

I've got the Flint and Tinder one just yesterday and absolutely agree with your fit/sizing remarks. I went for true to size and shoulders are perfect fit, but everything else is way too roomy to the extent I can add two laters under, but wearing it with just a t-shirt is not an option because with no layers underneath it looks like I borrowed it from someone bigger :) I've seen so many reviews with guys the same height and weight as me saying it fits perfectly, so not sure what is going on there, perhaps we have very different expectations of "fits perfectly".

@user-hc5pi5zh5j Жыл бұрын

I initially bought the RJ1 in a M @ 5'9" 170lbs with a 44" chest and it was TIGHT. Putting it on was like trying to put on a girlfriend's jacket or something, almost dislocating your shoulders to do so. All the other measurements were spot on though. I upgraded to a large and while it's a bit boxier overall now, it still fits well and isn't a pain to put on. Excited to watch it age!

@East-ten Жыл бұрын

I am the same body measurements as you and I had the exact same problem with the RGT tan unlined supply in a L being too snug and not able to find a good time to wear it so I sold it and picked up the Brown lined version from Rivet & Hide in a L and it is absolutely amazing. The chest is roughly an inch and a half wider, the sleeves are longer and the body is longer so it’s perfect to wear on its own with a t shirt or layer with a hoody. The satin sleeves are a nice touch and the lining means you have more chance to wear it, I live in Scotland so its almost always cold and wet so it’s perfect for chucking on to go to the shops or to the pub. You should consider picking one up it’s brilliant, a lot better in terms of fit and functionality over the unlined IMO. Cheers for the videos

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I haven't had a chance to try the lined version yet though from all the comments It seems it will be perfect for my use case. I think I'll do as you have and sell the unlined version for the lined!

@garyv1483 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing another review of a brand I’m really interested in. Do you have any freenote cloth stuff? That’s my biggest intrigue right now.

@pcmacintyre Жыл бұрын

Rogue Territory does make a lined version of the supply jacket. It was worn by Ryan Reynolds in The Adam Project. I am between a L and XL in Rogue Territory, The arms are too short for me in the large. I'm not a fan of waxed canvas. I did get the unwaxed copper canvas version.

@HereForTheStories Жыл бұрын

This is a good point actually, maybe that’s what I’ll get come next Autumn. Hmmm

@rmyat1498 Жыл бұрын

Personal RGT fit and style is definitely much better. Like you said might not fit certain bidy type. Personally I sorta like the crunchy/ stiffness of yhe RGT, gotta different feel to it ina good way. Dontnhave much of as issue with getting my hand in the hand warmers pocket for me. Personally RTG is my choice. Anyway thanks for the vid. Good stuff.

@martin4819 10 ай бұрын

Based on comments I had to lookup the freenote jacket. It has some really nice details…maybe even too much, but would actually have to try. I can see where it might stand out though. I have some canvas “blazer” type jackets and they fit perfect and look great but even here in Chicago (where we have all seasons) such a fitted jacket has limited use. The FT jacket although somewhat what boxy still looks clean and allows some layering which makes it a bit more practical. It’s also a lighter canvas which will facilitate that cool wrinkling u get with wax. I ordered a Gustin version of a waxed jacket….I like the details of a traditional trucker jacket (two pockets) and torso stitching. Hopefully it fits more like the FT….I have many good mid layer clothes to extend its use. I think I’d just go with a canvas blazer (which are much cheaper) if you’re looking for a fitted look. Perhaps though too much detail of the Gustin won’t look so good with a thick mid layer and the FT has it spot on by keeping it cleaner?

@Danpacjuk Жыл бұрын

Nice video. If I had seen this video earlier.. That's too bad. 6" (184cm), 189lbs (85kg) I have already purchased the F&T Jacket Large size and will arrive next week. As soon as I receive it, I expect to resend it for an exchange.

@american_psycho1147 Жыл бұрын

I actually made up my mind to get the RGT jacket based on a video you did of it a while back when I first discovered your channel. Your review sold me on it. But I absolutely get what you mean about it being hard to wear. It requires a very specific temperature range for it be usable because it's not warm enough for proper cold and it's not great if it's warm at all because it doesn't breath. But damn does it look good and I feel like a million bucks when I wear it

@137Furon Жыл бұрын

100% this, I ended up selling my rgt because of the reasons u mentioned

@beagle101ful Жыл бұрын

Another great review, thank you! I have the RGT in the same colorway and find it to be the same as you. It looks awesome, but I really don’t wear it much due to its lack of practicality. I’d suggest if you’re looking for a crazy functional, classic styled waxed canvas trucker jacket, that looks killer … check out Freenote Cloth Riders jacket (as seen in Yellowstone). I have two of these and they are really a step up IMO. Cheers!

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks for that tip. That jacket looks insane! But DAMN it is punchy. £450ish. Hard to justify, though need to try one on I think. cheers Brian!

@beagle101ful Жыл бұрын

@@CameronO you won’t be disappointed if you decide to give it a go. Have a read up on the materials used for the lining in the body (Japanese brushed cotton) and sleeves (satin lined for easy entry), the unique elasticized shoulder gussets, the hardware etc etc. it is pricey but if you decide to take the plunge you’ll thank me. Oh, and NO I don’t work for FN 😂

@HereForTheStories Жыл бұрын

Hi buddy, great vid. I’m also UK based and moved on my RGT recently as after around eight years of ownership I ran into the same problem - weather. It was a super fit over a t shirt but as you say impossible to layer and therefore rare to ever go out in a t shirt if it’s raining for half the year as too cold, then come summer it doesn’t breathe so it’s utterly redundant. Big fan of RGT and have had and still have many of their pieces. Other brands worthy of mention - Filson (for the cruiser) and Freewheelers. Only criticism is you were a bit harsh with the jacket only getting a few seconds of time in the Bond film! Definitely more like several minutes.

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

Thanks man. So it wasn't just me. It just dawned on me "i never wear this!" I might end up selling it too if I don't find use for it. The Filson Tin cloth one looks great but super pricey too

@markopolo9936 Жыл бұрын

I picked up an explorer jacket from eBay for cheap recently, it’s perfect for this time of year IMO, I wear a flannel underneath and on general UK days it holds up well 👍

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

Explorer jacket is so good. It has its flaws (unless the updated it) like the super short sleeves, but i loved it for country walks and the like.

@markopolo9936 Жыл бұрын

@@CameronO i saw your video on it, I sized up from what I usually get, seems to have sorted the short sleeves :)

@rpow6861 Жыл бұрын

i want em both!

@MadelnMachines Жыл бұрын

I was thinking of the Rogue territory lined version for the UK. Not sure what size to get - I'm slim which quite big arms / shoulders. I'm usually a medium 39.5 inch chest. The flint seems comfortable but a bit flimsy for the money. I'm looking at the Iron and resin scout and filson short lined crusier (downsized) too.

@alexdefaro Жыл бұрын

I have the RGT with lining and love it. The fit is perfect and it's very comfortable. My only complaint would be with the top button position, it does not look good when the jacket is buttoned up.

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

Have to agree Alex. I rarely do it up. I usually do the middle button though

@thechief043 Жыл бұрын

Watching that Iron Snail video of him rewaxing his buddy's Barbour was very funny. I think the process sounds overwhelming until you try it and you find a rhythm doing it.

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

Haha yeah that was the video that made me re-think it. Though I will do one some day. I have a really old 3sixteen waxed stadium jacket that needs re-waxing.

@st.johnsmythe2632 9 ай бұрын

What’s the long sleeve button up shirt you were wearing?

@igniaulfsborg8946 Жыл бұрын

Try the denim Supply jacket. It may address your climate concerns and it’s cut just slightly larger to accommodate layering without getting frumpy.

@137Furon Жыл бұрын

Breathability fundamentally made me sell the rgt jacket, potentially the lined version would be better to get best of both worlds with fit and having a lining

@anotherjamesbondpodcast0073 Жыл бұрын

Waxing a jacket is dead easy. It takes time but it’s super easy. I’ve waxed a yard jacket, rewaxed my beloved Barbour Skyfall and will be waxing another for winter soon

@richardthomlinson9137 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Cam, great review! I purchased a dark olive green F&T after seeing your other review, I chose the medium and found it perfect for layering, medium is my usual size.

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info Richard. Glad it fits to :)

@DanielG0m3z Жыл бұрын

That Sashiko jacket!

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate :)

@dazlarg 4 ай бұрын

Hi pal.. I’m In the uk .. I’m 5’10 43 chest.. would you think a medium would be a better fit .. the sizing is confusing as a 43 chest puts me in a large on the flint and tinder website.. but your a 42 in a medium? Help please as I’d really like to order one

@DerpEye Жыл бұрын

I would like the F&T one, but i don't get the sizing. I'm 178cmX65kg, and i have about 98cm chest. Thats 38,5 inches, and the size table says M is 39. There's no way i would get the M, since most reviewers who wear that, are at least 20kgs heavier. Should i get the S then? They don't even provide the shoulders width, which doesn't make sense. I don't want it to wear as an oversized coat.

@Bweanlsh 7 ай бұрын

What did you pay for import duty and VAT to the UK? Brings the price up quite a bit unfortunately right?

@StrickenBiged Жыл бұрын

That extra button hole is supposedly for a pocket watch chain. It’s a ‘heritage’ thing. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

Quirky detail. I wonder if anyone uses it hah

@tjekkarisdahl Жыл бұрын

Great review! I currently own the RT and agree with your points. Bought it in October and it was too cold to wear it in Denmark, and now in May, it is becoming too warm :) Anyone has any idea about where to buy the F&T from in Europe?

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

Cheers Andreas. Looks like we could both do with the lined RT!

@DerpEye Жыл бұрын

You get it shipped from the american website, and you pay import taxes.... I don't really get the sizing though. It says the M is 39 inches (chest). I'm 38,5 inches (about 98cms) but there's no way i would get an M, since i'm 65 kgX178cm , and in the reviews i see gys 20kgs heavier wear the same size. So, it should be S, but the again, there's no way to know for sure.

@Harald-- 9 ай бұрын

I have generally size L, but ordered in M. I am located in Germany. Unfortunately, Flint & Tinder costs 384,- € by Amazone, which is about $410,-.

@alexsantiago3661 Жыл бұрын

Were you still able to layer well going with the medium F&T?

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

Yep, I actually can get a heavy flannel under it. I will do a video in the next couple of weeks comparing the medium to the large. Still have both with me.

@MadelnMachines Жыл бұрын

Is it the Rogue Territory Sashiko cruiser you're wearing? I like the unique texture.

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

Hey! It's actually a Pure Blue Japan Type II Sashiko jacket :)

@gshep83 5 ай бұрын

What shirt is he wearing in the video ?

@allyjhughes Жыл бұрын

What jacket are you wearing in this vid? (Blue one)

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

It's a Type 2 Sashiko jacket from Pure Blue Japan. I'll do an update video of it soon.

@allyjhughes Жыл бұрын

@@CameronO Nice, do they still make it?

@raphaelhaefeli1408 3 ай бұрын

Where to buy Flint & Tinder in London?

@curtshelp6170 9 ай бұрын

Most of these boutique brands design for the “”model physique”. I have a Flint and tinder hooded waxed jacket In large (my normal size) and it’s too short despite my 5’6”” frame and is restrictive. Even worse in sizing is Bravestar forcing me to order 2xl, and it’s more restrictive than the f&t. In Carhart and Levi large is more generous than even the Bravestar in 2xl.

@panagiotispapadopoulos9662 Жыл бұрын

RGT has some QC issues, we prefer your PBJ jacket😂

@julienholmgren1543 Жыл бұрын

Rouge territory? as in red territory in French?

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

Hahha, long day! Thanks for the heads up

@AncientYouth64 Жыл бұрын

You can get a lined rogue

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

Yeah, wanted to get that for the video but couldn't justify buying it. It does look good!

@AncientYouth64 Жыл бұрын

@@CameronO i have hummed and haahed about getting one of these for a while, need to sell off some of my other jackets first that i barely wear

@lamecow21 Жыл бұрын

What t shirt are you wearing?

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

The Strike Gold. I dropped the link in the description. It's reasonably priced and solid AF!

@SJH2022 Жыл бұрын

Never buttoned the rouge territory, but people have come up and said missed a button ?. What’s going on here! What’s the truth Cam !!

@CameronO Жыл бұрын

haha. More like family and people in the office to be honest. I often just do the middle button up for some reason.

@SJH2022 Жыл бұрын

I live in florida, so it’s rare I get to wear it. However, I just use the button hole to hold sunglasses.

@AncientYouth64 Жыл бұрын

i do think these jackets are massively over priced for what they actually are , but they do look nice , i am leaning towards the flint and Tinder as i think the Rogue is a bit 'too cliche' now

@user-sw2lv3zp6o 8 күн бұрын

The Rogue looks a size too small for you. At least. The Flint and Tinder looks good on you. Why does really tight look good? For me, it looks naff.

@MrKudosx Жыл бұрын

No lining in the Rogue Territory? Gross.

@cboria148 Ай бұрын

honestly try filson

@ellisgarvin 9 ай бұрын

I like the look of the RT a lot, but that bizarre buttonhole is kind of a deal breaker. I like flair and some unusual/creative elements to clothes but I just don't think it's well done. It really sticks out definitely looks more like a bug than a feature. Maybe if it wasn't so prominently placed I would find it easier to swallow. There's a reason why costume designers tone it down or cover it when actors wear this jacket in movies and TV shows.